Year: 1970

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Birthday Puja (year unknown) Mumbai (India)

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HH Shri Mataji, Birthday Puja Public Program, Mumbai, India [Yoginis singing a welcome song ends 6’55”] I bow to all the seekers of truth. It is very kind of you all to have come to celebrate my birthday.  It’s all your goodness. In modern times, who looks after the mother? One of the signs of modern times is that the parents will be neglected by the children. They may have to stay in an orphanage. But I find all of you here with such love, with such affection, all the way from all distances, you have come to greet your Mother. Words stop at this point. I cannot understand the love that is pouring so much like an ocean over Me. I just get lost into the beautiful feeling of a Mother who has thousands of children, who are so kind and also after my image of a good son or a good daughter. We had another great mother here, in this Maharashtra, was Jijabai, Jija Mata. And she is the one she had  an image [unsure] of her son, that one day her son will be able to establish the kingdom of God, of honesty, of freedom, of character. Such ” Yuvapurushas” are born in many years.Even his son could not come up to his standard, to his character.  The way he respected the daughter-in-law of Kalyan Subhedar, the way  he came towards people, the way he led a life of dynamic bhakti. Such people are rarely born and he could Read More …

Sahaja Yoga a Unique Discovery (THE LIFE ETERNAL, 1980 ISSUE, PAGES 3–8) (Location Unknown)

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Sahaja Yoga – A Unique Discoveryby Her Holiness Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, 1979 The beautiful article, A Unique Discovery was written by Shri Mataji Herself in 1979, and appeared in a magazine called “Yoga Today”, which does not exist any more. The image shows what it originally looked like in the magazine. MAN in his search of joy and happiness is running away from his Self, which is the real source of joy. He finds himself very ugly and boring because he doesn’t know his Self. A human being seeks joy in money or possessions, in power or human limited love, and ultimately in religion that is also outside. The problem is how to turn one’s attention inward. The inner being, which is our awareness, is energy. I call it the energy of Divine Love. All evolution and the manifestation of material energy is guided by the supreme energy of Divine Love. We do not know how powerful and thoughtful this unknown energy is. The silent working of awareness is so automatic, minute, dynamic, and precious that we take it for granted. After self realisation, this energy appears to us as silent throbbing vibrations flowing through our being. But we have been unable to achieve self realisation because we cannot fix our attention on something that lacks form (abstract Being). Instead, our attention wanders outside on forms.Now there is a method to tap the Divine power – Sahaja Yoga. At the very outset, I have to say that the working Read More …

BEWARE, DEAR ASPIRANTS (THE LIFE ETERNAL, 1980 ISSUE, PAGE 25) (Location Unknown)

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BEWARE, DEAR ASPIRANTS BEWARE, DEAR ASPIRANTS .THERE IS A JUDAS WITHIN US . BE CAREFUL. HE WALKS WITH US, WORKS WITH US. SINGS THE PRAISES OF THE DIVINE MOTHER, BUT HE IS AN UGLY SERPENT, THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SATAN, WHO IS IN DISGUISE. HE HELPED TO CRUCIFY CHRIST IN A SLY MANNER. HE MAY BE A WOMAN LIKE POOTANA, WHO CAME TO POISON THE CHILD KRISHNA. LET US ALL KNOW THE ONENESS IN OUR MOTHER’S LOVE. AND TAKE GUIDANCE IN THE BURNING FLAME OF HER DIVINITY. GUARD AGAINST SUCH SHIP SINKERS IN THE SHIP OF SAHAJA YOGA. MAY GOD GIVE YOU KNOWLEDGE TO KNOW THE EVIL GENIUS – THE NEGATIVITY PERSONIFIED. “SRI MATAJI” LET 1980 PDF

Message (MAHA AVATAR, ISSUE 1, JUL-SEP 1980) (Location Unknown)

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Message (MAHA AVATAR, ISSUE 1) “Today, Sahaja Yaga has reached the state of Mahayoga, which is en-masse evolution manifested through it. It is this day’s Yuga Dharma. It is the way the last judgement is taking place. Announce it to all the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world, so that nobody misses the blessings of the divine to achieve their meaning, their absolute, their spirit.”

Two quotes (MAHA AVATAR, ISSUE 1, JUL-SEP 1980, PAGE 11) (Location Unknown)

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Two quotes (MAHA AVATAR, ISSUE 1, JUL-SEP 1980, PAGE 11) “The New revolution in your awareness has to take place otherwise all human achievements have no meaning. It would be like arranging all the electrical decorations for the marriage without the electrical current But when the light be on, you will seethe Bridegroom and the Bride.” “My children, you must know I am beyond insults and Pain. Do you know that when Christ was crucified he was a witness to his pain ? He can never be humiliated. But these people are under the pressure of the satanic forces. We have to save them. Do you want them to go to hell ?”

Quote (THE LIFE ETERNAL, 1980 ISSUE, PAGE 13) (Location Unknown)

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“Nothing is easier than turning on the light in a room. You must press the switch button. But there is a big mechanism that works it out – wires, power houses and the whole process of scientific discovery which mastered the use of electricity, there is a long history behind the discovery of electricity. In the same way there ·is a great dynamic organisation that works out Self Realization, let us first switch on your lamps and in their light we can understand the mechanism much better.”

Ushering in the Satya Yuga (THE LIFE ETERNAL, 1981 ISSUE, PAGE 1) (Location Unknown)

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Ushering in the Satya Yuga Human beings have various sources through which he constructs the picture of God Almighty. His ideas about truth are also based on these different sources. Before realization it is .not possible to know what is the real source and which is the imaginary plight. When people construct on their own and write books it gets confirmed by the masses as the authentic version. For a real seeker it is necessary to open the mind to receive the light of self-realization. He should not discard or accept anything before the self-realization. Because none of the knowledge whether real or fake has granted self-realization. About Kundalini and spiritual happening also there are many books. Some of them are correct, some of them confused and some of them are absolutely false. When one. gets realization the being acts like a computer as if the inner subtle mechanism has been connected with the mains. Through vibrations of chaitanya which appeal like cool breeze one can detect for oneself as to what is reality. The Being realizes that it becomes the carrier of the dynamic force of Divine Love. He understands and records its working. Then only one realizes the meaning of human personality which has evolved from an amoeba to this stage. The totality of man is felt through the spiritual synthesis of physical, emotional and mental beings. And, if it works like child’s play why should you worry how it’s done? If you are hungry you should start Read More …

Letter in Marathi (Location Unknown)

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Translation of an Old Marathi Letter I. Probably written in London, c.1975. My dear Modi and other Sahaja Yogis, Many blessings. Received your letter. I am very glad to know that your Ida Nadi has become clean and I hope, Ida Nadis of all have become clean at least to some extent. Here I had told all, that I would work, while under anesthesia, to clean the Ida channels of all. I worked for 3 days cleaning it by vomiting nearly 50 times every day and it is nice that the cleaning has become possible. This physical being has to be used for the mission for which it has been taken and therefore I am not bothered by the illness and other troubles. On the contrary all such and different experiments with this incarnation will have to be performed. Why are you so anxious about it ? What else is the use of this body ? I never have any pains. All I want is that, in the laboratory of this body, some work or the other must go on. Time is short while the work to be done is very big. You cannot do the cleaning of Ida channel only on the strength of your realisation. I knew that it had to be cleaned from within. In ancient days all seekers had to do this action (Kriya) constantly right from their childhood at the residences of their gurus at isolated places. The seekers had to do it individually in Read More …

Talk About Nizamuddin (date and location unknown) (Location Unknown)

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1970-0101 Talk About Nizamuddin [Note – the talk has been taken from the tape: 1995-03-15 Conversation with Princess Nun Bangkok] Nations land, where Hazrat Nizamuddin was buried, He was a great nabi and a sufi and in his whole poetry he has used very symbolic things and for people of that level they do not think of any religion being exclusive. Even Mohammad saheb never talked only of Islam. He talked of all the people who came before. Like Abraham, then he talked of Moses, then he talked of Christ and his mother specially in Quran he has talked it. He never talked that I am something separate, never exclusive. They can never be exclusive because they know that all these great people came on this earth to do the emancipation of human beings, so their expertise and same as Hazarat Nizamuddin. Long time back before my marriage when I came here I was the first I think to put a chadar of flowers on him and my father also was a great soul. He told me this is Hazarat Nizamuddin and his disciple was Kusro was a great poet in Hindi language, he is regarded as a very great poet and he is the one who has written this beautiful song, now the symbolic is this chap means is the Muslims. Tilaks are the Hindus. I have given up everything once I met the reality. But it’s very deep and beautifully explained and though they were born in the Read More …

Unknown Talk related to Guru Puja (Location Unknown)

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Unknown Talk related to Guru Puja So now, there are two very nice tapes we have got, the first one is called as ‘Bandagi’ and which are lyrics composed by my brother, we call him Babamama, but his name is Hemendra Kumar. I have given him a name called ‘Belos’, meaning ‘the pure’, he has composed all these poems here and Mr. Prabhakar Dhakre, who we call as Guruji has, is the one who has done all the musical part of it and the musicians are here Suresh Wardkar, Uttara Kelkar, Chaya, Sarita Bhave and Sanjay Talwar. I think you have heard it but this was not with so many of these so now we have got them and for which the money is to be collected there. Philip, you are doing the whole selling?  Wolfgang is selling it. So, you can get it from him and later on also we will carry them with us if some remains later on for other Sahaja Yogis. So, I declare it as inaugurated, for the inauguration of this thing I declare it as ‘being inaugurated’. You must know my brother is a chartered accountant and I cannot understand, he suddenly became such a great poet because I never knew he had this talent and he never composed any poems but just after realization all these beautiful things have come out and specially in Urdu language which he did not know, Urdu language he did not know much, I know little bit but not much myself Read More …

Quote 1 from Nirmala Yoga, Issue 13 (Jan.-Feb. 1983), Pages 23 and 25 (Location Unknown)

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Quote 1 from Nirmala Yoga, Issue 13 Magnanimity of mind is very pleasing and it attracts others. This magnanimity lies within human being and is awakened by Kundalini. But how can those people have this joy of spontaneity who are living in artificial atmosphere ? Although Kundalini has been awakened and She has pierced Brahmarandhra yet heart must be pierced. But some Sahaja Yogis have hearts like stones, absolutely devoid of love; they use sarcastic words while talking to others and want to show that they are great. On many occasions I have seen, people push others or shout at others even in my presence. Particularly, when you shout at the children, I feel pain in my heart. At least Sahaja Yogis should have deep love for each other. When you know that you are the children of the same Mother, why do you look down upon some people ? Are you perfect ? Are there no faults in you ? We only talk of universal love. If you have no love for each other amongst you, then in which mankind will it be seen ? All I want to tell you is to clean your minds of venomous thoughts that you have for other Sahaja Yogis.If a Sahaja Yogi visits your town, invite him, look after him, as if he is your brother. His happiness will purify your homes. I cannot understand how there can be groups among the Sahaja Yogis, because every moment your condition is improving or Read More …

Letter, Meaning of Puja (Location Unknown)

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Old Letter in Marathi – Meaning of Puja. My dear Nirmala Many Blessings Received your loving letter. I have also very much enjoyed Navaratri Puja. But Puja is also an external offering. Even your heart has said so. But you should understand how you get the reward or blessings of the Puja and its prasad. A Puja or a prayer grows from your heart. Mantras are the words of your Kundalini. But if Puja is not performed from heart or if Kundalini is not associated with recitation of Mantras then that Puja becomes a ritual. If you become thoughtless in Puja, know that your heart is also involved in it. Collect the Puja material and offer it sincerely. There should be no formality or bindings in the offerings. It is correct to wash hands, but is your heart washed? When attention is on heart it does not go to others. Although you remain quiet from outside, you are speaking from within. Hence you should not, be silent for long time. If man’s heart is not clean, then the silence becomes very harmful. At the same time loose talks can bring catastrophes. You should say the Mantras in Puja but with great faith (Shraddha). There is no alternative to Shraddha. You should perform the Puja when Shraddha grows deep, so that heart itself gets all Puja performed. At that time waves of bliss start flowing because it is the Spirit that is saying, how can any thought come at that time? Read More …

Letter to London Sahaja Yogis from Nirmala Yoga, Issue 4 (May-June 1981), Front Back Cover (Location Unknown)

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Letter to London Sahaja Yogis My dearest Children, Thank you very much for the beautiful flowers you sent me. They remind me of you all. I missed you very much all those days of separation. I hope you get my tapes from Australia, I have said lots of new wonderful things. I am coming back very soon to enjoy your joyful and sweet company. Yours as ever,Your loving mother Nirmala

Handwritten Notes on Leadership compiled by a Sahaja Yogi (Location Unknown)

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Handwritten notes on Leadership. (Advice to leaders) To sense how the natural process work through the Principle of Kundalini. For this knowledge the leaders must meditate and follow their vibration’s dictation about themselves. First before meditation give 7 time bandhan. Have an open mind. First locate the conditioning and your preferences & prejudices.Prejudiced leaders when they are not deep see in others what fits their prejudice.To know how things happen do not use your mental projections or deliberations. They have their linear movement that recoils into their polarity. Do not try to make things work. They say “we wish make amasses work”. You just work the principle and the process will manifest.There is no mental analysis needed as there is no cause or effect. The Spirit which is enlightened by kundalini works out everything because it has a built in capacity as the seed. The mother earth is the Param ? Power.Allow the Divine to work it out, through your Spirit. You work less mentally, you be only the instrument. To be is the becoming. This works through surrender “Oh Mother come in heart, Please come in my head, Please come in my attention”. The kundalini will do the job for you.One cannot surrender the leadership which is difficult. True simplicity is not easy for a complicated mind. The leader teaches by example and not by lectures which bloats the ego and creates Shabda Jalam (a rain of words?) for the leaders. Do not seek or worry about money or Read More …

Letter in Marathi II from Nirmala Yoga, Issue 14 (March-April 1983), Page 11 (Location Unknown)

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Letter in Marathi II I have received letters from all of you but have not been able to write because now in London Sahaja Yoga work has started with great drive. Delhi Sahaja Yogis write very few letters but most of them are happy. Sahaja yogis of Bombay are alright, Sahaja Yogis of Rahuri are enjoying. Sahaja Yogis of Bombay have great responsibility and therefore had to face many attacks. The first attack came when I was in U.S.A. At that time many Sahaja Yogis were affected and many fell away. Later on when an attack was on all London Sahaja Yogis collectively followed wrong path which was full of dangers and harms. Many wicked people from that part are, still hiding themselves in some Sahaja Yogis in the form of ‘badhas’. You have to vigorously use Sahaja Yoga methods against them. These wickeds attack you from Agnya and Heart. From Agnya they send Anti-Sahaja Yoga ideas in your mind and from Heart they make complaints. If you identify them they will become ineffective. There is one remedy for it which can be applied only after the realization. Because if your car does not start, your brakes and accelerators are of no use. But if you do not use the accelerator even after it starts, how will your car move? You can attain any destination that you fix. All your auto suggestions will materialise. The remedy that is to be used is : your attention should be on Me and Read More …

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Unique Discovery – TV (date unknown) (Location Unknown)

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Unique Discovery – TV (date unknown, location unknown) Shri Mataji: The truth is that we are not this body, this intellect, emotions, this ego, the conditionings, but we are the spirit. And the second truth is that there is a subtle , All-pervading Divine Power which is doing all the living work.   Announcer: In 1970 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi founded Sahaja Yoga, a dynamic technique for meditation that takes us beyond our limitations. Through the awakening of the spiritual energy within us, we can experience the integration of all aspects of our life, physical, mental, emotional and spiritual. Thousands of people from more than 40 countries have experienced this enlightenment. True peace in the world will only be achieved through the inner transformation of human beings.  Sahaja yoga, [is] the unique discovery. Shri Mataji: I bow to all the seekers of truth. Truth is something, which can not be changed.  It can not be challenged.  It can not be imagined. One has to feel the truth on your central nervous system. What is the truth? The truth is that you are not this body, you are not this mind, you are not this intelligence, you are not these  conditionings or your ego, but you are pure spirit. This is one truth. The second one is that this whole universe is covered with a very subtle energy, which is called as the  All-pervading  Power of God’s love. Or in Sanskrit  language it is called as  Paramchaitanya. These are the two things Read More …

Ego and Superego, from Nirmala Yoga, Issue 5 (Sep.-Oct. 1981), Page 4 (Location Unknown)

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Man is still in a transitional stage. Little more he has to jump and he becomes that, for which he has been created. Human brain and heart are the most evolved things. Human heart also has to be correlated with the brain. From our stomachs fat rises into our brains passing through all the centers, evolving to be cells of the brain. The fat, to become brain, has to evolve, i.e., to achieve certain amount of charges of human awareness. Human brain has a dimension, which animals do not have, a mental or emotional dimension, with which we understand love. We understand how to receive and reciprocate. We understand beauty and poetry; and we also understand how to create these. Brain is triangular and prismatic in nature. When the rays of God’s divine power flow in, they get refracted into different angles and by the principle of of parallelogram of forces, a part of the power escapes to left side and a part to right side. Therefore Man can think of past and future but animals cannot. In the transitional period it is necessary to protect the brain carefully and make it independent of God’s will and make it used by itself so that it develops another dimension of wisdom. For this purpose the system of ego and superego has been created which is the by product or reaction, of human activities. Every activity has a reaction. If you say no to something, the reaction is ego If you accept Read More …

Letter to Dr. Raul, from Nirmala Yoga, Issue 8 (Mar.-Apr. 1982), Page 23 (Location Unknown)

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My dear Dr. Raul, I received a very detailed letter from Damle. It was a very wise step on your part to have met Shri Gagan Gadh Maharaj. What he says about the miracle of Sahaja Yoga is absolutely true. The reason why this great sanctuary never manifested in reality was that whenever Adi Shakti descended as incarnation (She) did not have all the chakras integrated through Sahasrara. The complete harmony and unison merged into an integrated instrument of her personality is bringing forth these fantastic results. So much so that I am surprised at myself. I think he (Gagan Gadh Maharaj) also cannot imagine the dynamics of this Discovery and hence he feels that ‘Avadhutas’ have to be away in the forests and that Cancer can give you reaction. You have cured the Cancer of Phadke’s father. Did it give you any reaction? When you are at a giving end how can you receive anything? You are reborn as Lotus which does not take anything bad from muddy surroundings but transforms its surroundings with its beauty and fills it with fragrance. This is the magic of a realised soul. Do you think doctors will accept that there exists the Kingdom of God and that it creates us and that the Lord of our autonomous nervous system is our Spirit which is the reflection of God? You can quote the names of people like Mr. Bose and Mr. Daftary and Mr. Sharma who is miraculously cured of his colour blindness Read More …

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Unidentified Hindi Talk, date unknown (Extract on Agnya Chakra) New Delhi (India)

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Translation from Hindi […] you have come to the programme and whilst sitting here, you are still thinking about your problems and worries. Oh, this happened to me, that happened to me. When should I discuss this with Mataji — what calamity has fallen upon me? Mataji, you are the Goddess, these are my troubles. Instead of trying to understand what is being said, you continue to overthink about your problems and are allured into illusions. These illusions cause you cancer, or else you get this disease or that. This type of mental projections – what are we thinking? What type of thoughts do we get? Thoughts such as- we have this grief, we have that grief, this mammoth problem. Instead, you should rather “count your blessings”. How many blessings the Almighty has bestowed upon us? Crores of people live in this city of Delhi. How many of them have got Sahaja Yoga? We are some special people; not some frivolous people who should spoil their attention. We have been blessed with Sahaja Yoga. We should have a realization of this from within and should go deeper into that inner being. That is how you can get rid of these deceitful limitations. If you will not break free from these limitations yourself, somehow you will start having such experiences that will themselves break these shackles- when you think, this is ours. If you will say we are from Delhi, one day these people from Delhi will outcast you. If you Read More …

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Unidentified Hindi Talk, date unknown (extract on Swadishthana) (India)

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Swadishthan Chakra. The quality of this Chakra is that you become creative. Your creativity increases. People who never even wrote a line, start writing poetry. People who had never given a speech started giving  long speeches and people who had never painted, never been artistic, become artistic. Become very creative. We have our architects, who  have scaled great heights. So creativity comes into human, and he believes that his creativeness is very important. He does not care about money, he cares about being creative and neither do many people want to get a big name, for which create some or the other weird thing. Today  many weird things are made so that we become famous, people will remember us a lot, but there is no art in that. So you receive great degree of art (creativity) when this second Chakra of yours, the Swadishthan Chakra becomes alright. And because of this, because of Swadishthan, what we think, we use the power of the the grey cells in our brain. So this Chakra supplies that required power. This Chakra. So, people who think too much get all kinds of illnesses, which we call the right sided illnesses. One of the illness is that the liver is spoilt and another is that he gets diabetes in his Pancreas. If not that then he could get kidney trouble, if not tat then he could get constipation, if not that then he could get Asthma, if not that then he could get a Heart Read More …

Quote from Nirmala Yoga, Issue 12 (Nov.-Dec. 1982), Page 25 (Location Unknown)

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Quote from Nirmala Yoga All should clean their inner beings. You should think “why have we come to Sahaja Yoga ? What benefits have we got and what can we get? Where do we go wrong ? What should we do further ? Where are our pitfalls ? What have we left and taken for our growth?” I find, even after coming to Sahaja Yoga, in most of our wakeful time, we think of external things. We must see how much loving and devoted to God, we are.

The Essence of Sahaja Yoga, from Nirmala Yoga, Issue 19, Jan.-Feb. 1984, Pages 28–32 (Location Unknown)

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The Essence of Sahaja Yoga, from Nirmala Yoga In today’s talk I will dwell on the essence of Sahaja Yoga. I am sure that it has been explained to you before. Besides, most of you are from Sahaja Yoga itself. So I need not go into details. First of all we need to understand that we are passing through an extremely serious time pregnant with unpredictable consequences. When we look at life we do not seem to understand that if we miss this opportunity which has come our way, for our evolution, we will not only be depriving ourselves of it or this country, England, but also it will be a stupendous loss for the whole of creation. The trouble, however, is that in the name of God, of evolution and of higher life, a plethora of of spurious people have come out making it well-nigh difficult to convince anyone of the existence of truth. Under the circumstances one has to talk about truth. But mere talking about truth rarely leads to the experience of truth. It is altogether a different realm, a new awareness which you will have to get to understand the truth for which I do not know how many of you are really prepared or how many of you would like to know. Or even if you would like to, yet how many of you will really achieve it. But the problem is the other way round. It is not a problem that we have only Read More …

Unidentified Talk after Evening Program, eve of Shri Ganesha Puja (India)

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Unidentified Talk Eve of Ganesha Puja Maharashtra India. [Gopa] saying please take me across this ocean of  illusion, this [pandurangara] is requesting Shri Krishna – Panduranga is Shri Krishna in Maharashtra is called as [unclear] Also there’s a big story about it but I’ll tell you later on. So he says he is requesting please take me across and this is what I wanted.. But the way he sang it  with such devotion, sincerity and honesty. It’s really just stirred up all the vibrations I know and you are feeling all that. You see we Maharashtrans are very lucky people, that we had such saints who were realised souls. They knew about chaitanya. They knew about vibrations. They knew about the higher life and all the time whatever they have sung is the hope that everybody will get realisation, or they have described that state of realisation. I mean I must say the Maharashtrans are the luckiest people. I don’t know if they understand it or not but they are the most blessed people because there are so many saints who were realised souls.  They are Nathas who were realised souls and all of them have sung the song and the place of this higher state of life. And this one you can see now. This song also says same thing that let me go beyond this. But I must say one thing, congratulating all these Sahaja Yogis from the west that they never had heard about these things, never. They never knew about Read More …

Advice to Western Women from Nirmala Yoga, Issue 20 (March-April 1984), Pages 33–38 (Location Unknown)

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Advice to Western Women from Nirmala Yoga, Issue 20 (March-April 1984), Pages 33–38 Now, this is in the West. Now, the women are intelligent and the women of the west being intelligent and educated have developed a kind of a very complex situation around themselves. These things have made them a kind of a man without manliness, and that is why their whole behaviour becomes extremely odd. Sometimes I just don’t understand, but now I’ve started understanding, that the way the women are, they want to dominate men. But they don’t understand that by dominating you cannot create good relationship. Now, to dominate a man one way could be just to go on behaving like a man, you see, pushing him around and all that, saying, “Don’t do this. I don’t like it. This is not good. That is not good”. But that is not so sophisticated. So, the other way is to all the time talk about the miseries of your past. “I am like this. This is wrong with me”. All the time she’s sick. All the time she’s miserable. All the time she’s insecure. All the time she’s so dependent, she needs her husband. She wants the attention of the husband. The husband must look after her. Ultimately, I think the husbands must be getting absolutely fed up and running away from the wives. And that must be why the prostitution is so strong here, because at least the prostitute tries to please the husband and not Read More …