Workshop with Seekers

Pune (India)

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Workshop with Seekers 1982/12/24

Sahaja Yogi: Varicose veins

SY: [MARATHI] 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: Hmm, [IN HINDI – What did you say?] 

Annh? 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

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Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

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Shri Mataji: [HINDI – You do one work] Anyone. Anyone of the Sahaja yogis, please put your hand at her back, where she has a pain and put your right hand towards Me. 

[MARATHI]

 Another sahaja yogi, please come this side and put your left hand, left hand [MARATHI]

[IN HINDI – Be happy, bless you] Just … Namastey..namastey 

[HINDI – You took so much trouble – annh? Hunh.] Now any other sahaja yogi who’s there, please come. Put your left hand on her back, wherever she has pain and right hand towards Me. 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] You come and put your hand on her left nabhi. 

SY: [HINDI – Mrs. C P has come and her friend] [IN HINDI – Namastey, come. I was not able to meet you. 

Where is Siddhu? Sit down for some time.] [IN HINDI – Okay, what problem do you have? Are you alright? Then sit here. Yes] 

Shri Mataji: [IN HINDI – Come. What problem do you have?] 

Another SY: [IN HINDI – I have some trouble of the heart] 

Shri Mataji: Heart Another 

SY: [IN HINDI – It happened in 1964 for the first time] Any sahaja yogi who’d like to help a polio patient. Sahaja yogi should not sit down taking vibrations…. in a way or just try to help them now is to put them.. His boy has got polio, so you rub him on the left hand side – the sciatica nerve is completely full. You ask Warren he’ll tell you all about it. 

They’ll help you with your polio and even Dhumaal, if he’s here. 

SYogi: Yes, Mother Warren, this boy is suffering from polio. Just try to help him out with this. You can take him in the room and let him lie down on the bed and just rub it out. Warren: Kerosene treatment 

Shri Mataji: Now.. [IN HINDI – Yes] 

Shri Mataji: [IN HINDI – You child, what problem do you have?] 

SY: [IN HINDI – I have the problem of the lower back. If I sit down, can’t get up]

SY: [IN HINDI – If I sit down on the ground, very difficult to get up] 

Shri Mataji: [IN HINDI – You sit here in front of Me. What problem do you have?] 

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Shri Mataji: Just turn around, turn around 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [IN HINDI – What?] 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [IN HINDI – Sit comfortably putting your legs in front] 

Shri Mataji: [IN HINDI – Yes, rest your back. Come back. Come back. Shift further back] 

Shri Mataji: [IN HINDI – yes, and sit straight, please. Okay] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [IN HINDI – Now see Doctor saab] these people call it migraine. It’s something so much miraculous trouble called migraine and migraine can be with two problems. One, either the stomach or the brain; It cannot be third problem, so because you see, we call it the Vishnu tatwa, the evolving force, you see, is in the brain 

Shri Mataji: [IN HINDI – Just move forward] which gives us the awareness. [HINDI – No, no this portion you keep like this. Come back a little, yes. Now keep] [HINDI – both hands in front, yes sit like this. Yes, Now], what happens, that there is a principle of evolution within us. 

The principle evolution starts from the stomach. We start evolving when we feel hungry to begin with. Then we start growing in that principle; Our awareness starts improving so that our brain also develops. According to Sahaja yoga, according to Sahaja yog – I don’t know, if Medical Science would accept or not – but according to Sahaja yog the fat of the stomach is converted into brain cells by the aortic plexus – not actually aortic plexus by Swadhishthan Chakra – which is used by the brain because brain is using it’s energy all the time and it has to be replaced, so these special cells come from the stomach. So, there are only two things that can give you a headache – one is of the brain or the stomach. Now, the stomach problem could be the liver. See, liver is something we do not understand much because liver is supposed to be a very secretive stuff but for Sahaja Yoga liver is very simple. Liver is caused because of too much thinking, because of too much of attention outside because when you start thinking too much, then the same cells which are required for the brain which are to be produced by one center, has to look after the brain and then, it neglects other organs like liver, like spleen, like pancreas, like kidneys so, such a person can get a high blood pressure, can get diabetes, can get troubles with the, say, with the spleen or other troubles that are caused by being, even leukemia it can [UNCLEAR – COPE TO?]. Then, with the pancreas you can get diabetes – like that – so, because that is neglected, the balance has to be brought in and such a person has to be brought to the balanced state. Such a person, who thinks too much, is, we call him as a right-sided man and a right-sided man must be brought to the left side a little bit. 

So what we do, you see, if you are too right-sided, your left side is neglected – emotionally you become dry or frozen and the left side becomes over-excited – it requires more sustenance, so what we do, is to raise your left side, like this for all this and ultimately the heart because heart is also neglected because ego is created too much and it engulfs the heart and that’s how people get heart troubles because your attention is outside, in the heart resides the Spirit – you don’t pay any attention to your Spirit, so the heart also collapses; It is so simple as that. At the root point, I’m saying, so what you have to do, is to put left to the right or under all these circumstances when you suffer from the right side activity. So, what you do, is to put your left hand like this and put it up like that and bring it down right. Those who have got, not all, not all. Those who have got right-sided problem must – high blood pressure or diabetes have to do like this. Say about, those who have to do intensively should do 108 times. Just like this, if you think too much, like this 108 times. So, your thinking will be first reduced. First you have to come to balance. Now the balance also about dharma, if you start thinking too much, then you also are imbalanced. 

Dharma is to be established within yourself. This is only possible in Sahaja Yoga, when you get your realization, when your Prana pratishtha is done, then you try to try to balance yourself and then the ascent is better, so the central path of Sushumna, which is actually expressed as Para Sympathetic, becomes wider and the Kundalini rises better and you are stabilized in Sahaj yoga. So, you start from the left hand side. Now, raise it up and put it on your head and put it down. Again you raise it, so you give yourself a balance. Again you raise it up – at least three times. Three times [MARATHI]. Three times, seven times or twenty-one times, fifty-one times and 108 times, depending on the intensity of the trouble. Now, if your attention is not on the Spirit and outside too much, then the Spirit recedes back. When it recedes back, you get heart attack. 

All heart troubles are caused because of that. Now supposing a child [MARATHI] then the parents [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [MARATHI] futuristic, very futuristic. [HINDI – The whole day and night do you think only this,] [HINDI – ‘What should we cook today, what should we cook tomorrow? What to cook in the evening?’] [HINDI – The children get troubles because of this.] 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [MARATHI] And also it goes, it is, these diseases are mostly found in the people, who are in certain communities, you see, those who have such ideas. In India also you’ll find people, who are very futuristic, extremely futuristic, you see, specially in Punjab – extremely futuristic – materialistic and futuristic; Such people get heart attacks. Heart is first because their attention is not on the Spirit. [HINDI – Did you understand?] Now, those people are, who are too much crying type, weeping type, thinking of the past, ritualistic – they get the left side problems. 

Left side problems are that you get possessed, all types of things happen to you and also, those who are very futuristic, people also, if somehow or the other, they get to people, who are dealing with the left side black magic or whatever it is, they can get into troubles like, leukemia or they’re triggered – they’re triggered into this. I saw a very nice program from BBC – the doctors did it – very wonderful program, I should say and they said that, “In our being there is an area built-in since our creation,” and that is, of course, according to us is Collective Subconscious – alright? “So, from that area an attack comes by some proteins;” They call it Protein 52, 58 – name anything – I mean, you could call it by any name, “and these attack. Once they attack then the cancer is triggered.” Very near our point is that we call them the spirits and they call them Protein 58. Whatever you call them but we call them spirits. Even virus infection is from the, from such vegetables which have gone out of the circulation of evolution. Even these things like leukemia and cancer and all these diseases are triggered by these dead spirits you can call them or dead things, which have gone out of the circulation of evolution because, if you start moving towards the left too much, you are very emotional type, you cry and weep too much and all that, you move that side. Once you start moving that side, you become aware of the Collective Subconscious, then they attack you. If you are very ambitious and all that, you can go to the right side too much and then you can become like Hitler. 

For example, what Hitler did, that he created an atmosphere of Collective Supra Conscious – charged them with great ambitions and future and then attacked them and these people could not even think what they were doing, you see, the way they behaved and killed people. So, there are two types of people in this world basically – one who are left-sided, one who are right-sided. So, in Sanskrit language they are called as Tamogunis and Rajogunis. The central ones are the Satwagunis – the one who keep the balance. Balancing people are Satwagunis – not those who eat vegetables. This is a wrong idea people have that, if you eat vegetable, you become Satwaguni. You have seen we have communities, who are just, don’t even eat garlic but they are extremely aggressive people; So, is not true – is the balance of the temperament that is important. Balance of the temperament, balance in life – a person who leads a balanced life, is really a dharmic person. The one who’s an extremist, for example, some people who are very radical or they are fanatic and they believe into one idea that, “This is the truth, this is the truth,” you see, such people become extremely charged and they can be very much in imbalance and if they ever are triggered by the left side Proteins 58 and 52, then they can catch cancer. So, fanaticism is also against nature – any extreme behavior or extreme belief. 

Now, many people say, “Mother, but it is written in this book, written in that book.” Alright, so, so many things are written in these books but we have seen it doesn’t do any good. What does, what is the thing you should expect in life is, what happens to you really, what do you achieve out of it, not what your mental projection is. Now you believe that, this pole is the tree. Supposing you believe in it. Who can tell you it is not, unless and until you see yourself. If you believe into something just by mental projection, then you cannot reach the truth. You have to keep yourself open and see for yourself because beyond this mind, beyond this mind, is the realm of Eternity because this mind is limited. This is a limited mind and this mind, if it has to go to unlimited, you have to go beyond that. How do you go? 

By thinking about it, again you are in the same bondage. With the bondage you cannot go, so the bondage has to be broken, something has to trigger it and for that triggering, God has given you this great thing called Kundalini. She’s within you, within all of you and you all have to take advantage of it. There is nothing like believing in Sahaja Yoga because it’s all mental projection. Don’t believe in anything, first of all. First of all, you get to your Spirit. Then Spirit is Absolute. Then the Spirit tells you what to believe in because you start feeling the cool breeze in the hand with that. Now, for example, our doctor was there yesterday – she immediately started feeling the different centers – immediately, because you just Absolute. You don’t say anything, nothing. 

You don’t have to say, it just works out. If you say, “Oh, this is burning.” It just works out and if this works out, what does that mean. If this works out, what does that mean? That is the only thing I have to do is to decode it and you have to understand after I have decoded it, how to cure – is as simple as that. In Sahaja yoga there’s no aggression and there’s no regression. You are just standing on reality. To see thing how it works out and how it is going to help humanity. 

Shri Mataji:[IN HINDI – You are alright now, get up. How are you feeling?] 

SY: [IN HINDI – I am able to get up now] 

Shri Mataji: [IN HINDI – Can get up now – it’s started.] You just see his left nabhi. [IN HINDI – Where is your wife?] 

SY: [IN HINDI: She’s not there.] 

Shri Mataji: [IN HINDI -When did she die?] 

SY: [IN HINDI – She’s not dead.] 

Shri Mataji: [IN HINDI – Then where is she?]

SY: [IN HINDI – She’s left.] 

Shri Mataji: [IN HINDI – That’s the problem] Now this nobody can believe [UNCLEAR] that his wife has gone away that’s why he’s suffering from the Left Nabhi because Left Nabhi – this is Left Nabhi and Left Nabhi is here. Is the place of the Grihalaxmi, is the woman of the house. 

If your Gruhalaxmi is not respectable, you might get it or if she is not respected also you’ll get it. She must be respectable and is to be respected. Specially in India most of them get this because we don’t respect our Gruhalaxmis so much while in England people get it right because women don’t respect their husbands. It’s a question of imbalance. The women have to be respectable and men have to respect them. [IN SANSKRIT – Yatra narya poojyante, tatra ramante devta] The women if they are respected and if they are not respectable, they are no use. So you have to be respectable and you are to be respected. [IN HINDI – And this is left nabhi, you got it from your wife. What is your wife’s name?] 

SY: [HINDI – In English, She’s called Tricoza but in Hebrew she’s called Tofaha] 

Shri Mataji: Tofaha? 

SY: Tofaha. 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Then what’s she, Jew?] 

SY: [HINDI – She’s Jew] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Now your leg is okay.You can walk straight.] 

SY: Hmm 

Shri Mataji: Thinking her name also. [HINDI – Then where has she gone? Has she gone to Israel? 

SY: [HINDI – No, she’s here only. She married someone else.] 

Shri Mataji: Annh? 

SY: [HINDI – She’s here only – married someone else] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Then leave such a woman] 

SY: [HINDI – Have left her. 20 years have passed at least – 22 years] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – And children?] 

SY: England 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Now it has started happening in India also.] [HINDI – Your leg is alright now. Lift it, raise it above. See, you are alright now? You are alright now. Now leave her] [MARATHI] [HINDI – Okay, now you.] [HINDI – Is your hand shaking now, see? See which finger of yours? No, keep hand like this.] 

[HINDI – It’s not any such thing. It’s obvious. You have got nervous trouble, nervous trouble is there.] [HINDI – In nervous trouble, see your left side is shaking more. We have to rectify that first] [HINDI – On the ground. Bow to Mother Earth first and keep your hand on it] She will suck your problem. [HINDI – All problems of the nerves are sucked by Mother Earth. Yesterday there was a man – he has gone?] [HINDI – His hands were shaking a lot. He just put one hand towards Me and put] [HINDI – one hand on the Mother Earth. 

Keep like this, on the ground. No, no on the ground outside] [HINDI – You come from the front. On the open ground, yes, it’s alright] [MARATHI] [HINDI – Yes, brother keep this hand towards Me. Yes, now see. The ground that is,] [HINDI – you have respected it. Do you believe in this Holy land?] 

SY: [HINDI – Yes, I believe] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – India is a very big, pure,] [HINDI – holy land. Okay. so what have you done for this holy land. What have you done for your country?] 

[HINDI – What have you done for this India?] 

SY: [HINDI – Actually, I was in service with [HINDI – the Government of India, after that I did some business but actually, for the] [HINDI – Mother Earth, I have done nothing.] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Okay you were in the Government of India?] 

SY: [HINDI – Yes] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – So you’ve done that,] [HINDI – that is enough. Government of India is also made of this Mother Earth only] [HINDI – Everything is made from this earth only. We have no right on the sky,] SY: [HINDI – Yes, please] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – it’s only on the Earth that we have a right] [HINDI – So, in which department were you?] SY: [HINDI – I was in the Railways.] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – What?] 

SY: Railway department. 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Actually, the government servants work more than required] [HINDI – and, I don’t mean that you don’t do, you should work. 

It’s very important to work [HINDI – but they don’t look after their wife and children. Isn’t it right? ] [HINDI – They neglect their household and thus they don’t look after their emotional side, isn’t it?] 

SY: [HINDI – Emotional [UNCLEAR] not much] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Then you have to be emotional.] [HINDI – When you do government job, do it emotionally with the thought that you are] [HINDI – serving your mother. If you do like this, you will never have any problem] [HINDI – But if you work with the thought that you are developing it, you are developing] [HINDI – the country or I am serving the Railways, then there’s an issue.] [HINDI – I am serving my country, Mother India, if you do your government job with this feeling,] [HINDI – then the effect will not be so much. You should be attached emotionally.]

SY: [HINDI – Would like to tell You this also, that after service of 25 years and leaving it] SY: [HINDI – I did poultry farming for 20 years, here in Poona. 20 years poultry farming,] 

SY: [HINDI – poultry breeding, and in that I can say that I served Mother Earth little bit] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Served or gained out of it?] 

SY: [HINDI – Gained also a lot, gained a lot] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – So, this give and take of the Mother Earth remains] [HINDI – How much we gain from it, we should give back. You should decide in your life] [HINDI – that you have done a lot. Now I will do something for India too, for the world also.] [HINDI – We all always think about ourselves only – isn’t it?] 

SY: [HINDI – Yes, but since the last 2 years, I’m totally retired. Now I’m doing nothing.] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – No, then you do something. Now you do Sahaja yog and serve God for sometime] 

SY: [HINDI – Thinking of serving God] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Will you do? Then it’s okay] [HINDI – You serve God, every problem will go away. Okay?] 

Just take him out and put him left to the right and he has a heart. Just, please. [HINDI – Take him inside.] [HINDI – Sahaja yogis will see you. It’s alright, they’ll see you – make you feel lighter.] [HINDI – Get up, please. Get up slowly, they’ll see you] [MARATHI] 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [HINDI – Should be. You Gujaratis, have you become English? Annh?. You should learn to] [HINDI – live in the Indian style, properly. 

Indians have become very English] [MARATHI] [HINDI – Live like Indians. Whichever country you belong to, you should live like that only] [HINDI – Shouldn’t uproot. English become Indians, no use. Can you grow] [HINDI – any other fruit from mango. Only mango will grow out of mango tree.] [HINDI – Whichever country you belong to, live like that only. God has made a variety] [HINDI – of people, different types of faces, different types of [UNCLEAR], in that] [HINDI – why do you want to change that variety? Everything different looks beautiful] [HINDI – If everybody looks the same, it will appear like military people coming forward] [HINDI – Isn’t it, just tell? There’ll be no fun in life. Various types of people should be there] [HINDI – and Gujaratis are turning very English. 

And in London I’m seeing them] [HINDI – Making themselves very peculiar. No need to become English. Live like Indians] [HINDI – We are Indians, live like Indians – understood? We should live like Indians] [HINDI – No need to live in English style. Let English people live in their style] [HINDI – Let Indians live in Indian style, let Chinese live in Chinese style.] [HINDI – What’s the use. Wherever a dress is made, for that dress whatever suits,] [HINDI – whatever is beneficial, wear that. In our country those dresses come and] [HINDI – finish off very soon. They do come but do not stay because they are not suitable here] [HINDI – in the heat. If we ask for those warm dresses from there, they go waste] [HINDI – as people can’t use them and discard them. 

How many days will they last,] [HINDI – you only tell Me. Here only kurta pyjama will only suit and if you wear suit etc] [HINDI – you’ll feel uneasy due to the heat. Doesn’t it happen? Either they have to make in cotton.] [HINDI – Can’t wear warm clothes. Thus the traditional dresses made here for us] [HINDI – which are useful for us, should be worn. And if possible, we should wear dresses] [HINDI – of our country, no need to follow any one else, no need to uproot yourself] [HINDI – It’s useless. Is it alright now?] 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: Annh? 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [HINDI – What problem does he have?] 

SY: Diabetes, diabetes 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Only diabetes, nothing else? How many people have diabetes come in front.] [HINDI – All, who have diabetes.] 

SYogi: All those with diabetes, come forward. Please stand] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – This you found out good. Diabetes – only three people] 

SYogi: All those who have diabetes, please come up. 

Shri Mataji: I must say, Poona is great, you have very few diabetes patients. 

SYogi: [HINDI – People with diabetes, please stand up. People with diabetes.] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Okay, come here. 

Sit down. Only 2-3. It’s okay – diabetes] [HINDI – Nothing difficult, do come, do come. Come in front] 

SYogi: Sugar trouble, diabetes 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Okay.] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Come sit down] SY: Sugar trouble? 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Sit down comfortably] [HINDI – Okay, now all people keep hand here (Left upper abdomen), those who have sugar trouble] [HINDI – here, here, this place left side, no, this place left side, no this side] [HINDI – like this, yes this side – where we have our spleen, that place and keep the left hand towards Me, right] [MARATHI] Let him come here. Ravi, you come this side, come along. 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [HINDI – Okay doctor sahab listen, she has liver but diagnosis can’t be done] [HINDI – but she has liver. You have to diagnose through vibrations] 

SYogi: Hands towards Her 

Shri Mataji: You’ll get a burning here(middle finger) [HINDI – Keep both your legs on the ground and see] You’ll get a burning on this finger [MARATHI] [MARATHI] liver [MARATHI] [HINDI – Those who are right sided, they should forgive everyone. ] [HINDI – With that the thoughts will decrease. 

You three forgive everyone] [HINDI – All those with diabetes, should forgive everyone. People with paralysis, forgive everyone] [HINDI – People with heart trouble, forgive everyone – are you listening? Forgive everyone] [HINDI – Hmm, you are benefiting, isn’t it? Forgive, say, “Mother, I forgive everyone.”] SYogi: [HINDI – Forgive with a true heart.] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – With pure heart, this is correct] [HINDI – You should forgive with a true heart. See how much you’ll be at ease, entirely peaceful] [HINDI – You say, “Mother, I forgive everyone,” you’ll be very relieved. Are you feeling good?] [MARATHI] Left Nabhi [HINDI – Hmm, is your relation to your husband okay? 

SY: Yes 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Where is your husband, where? 

Is she okay with you? Annh?] [HINDI – Or you both keep fighting?] 

SY: [HINDI – No] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI: You both never fought?] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Come this side] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Come this side] [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [HINDI – Don’t keep anger in your heart towards anybody] [MARATHI] Is the palpitation reduced somewhat? [HINDI – Are you feeling good? You are Vaishnav, isn’t it? Then become a Vaishnav.] [HINDI – What is being a Vaishnav? Vaishnav means, being an evolved soul] [HINDI – (ATTHA CHAAP?) 

You belong to them only, isn’t it? Hmm, Vallabhacharya did it.] [HINDI – Nobody knows him now it seems. Vaishnavas have taken themselves where nobody knows] [HINDI – He was a a very great evolved soul. People can be realized only by taking his name] [HINDI – You should not have had diabetes. Yes, did you feel cool in the hand?] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Did you feel any coolness in your hand?] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Only by taking his name, I told you, he was a very, great person.] [HINDI – Vallabhacharya was a very great man, who started this sect and this Vishnu path(way), which is for evolution.] [HINDI – He gave such a big name, started such a great work, wrote down so much but that had no effect.] 

[MARATHI] [HINDI – Are you getting some thing cool in your hands? It’s enough] [HINDI – Are you also Vaishnav?] 

SY: Jain 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Then what?] 

SY: Jain 

Shri Mataji: Jain 

SYogi: [HINDI – That’s why there’s a catch] [HINDI – Now who has understood Mahavira? No body understood] [HINDI – Mahavira never asked to make temples, did He ever say? He never said] [HINDI – He only said to meditate and be one with God. This is what He said, isn’t it?] [HINDI – He never asked to make temples. All Jainis are only making temples.] [HINDI – Make yourself into temples. 

So many temples these Jainis have built and all sorts of work they do there] [HINDI – Putting such absurd statues in Jain temples. In such beautiful places,] [HINDI – these Jainis put such dirty(obscene) statues. Did Mahavira say such a thing?] [HINDI – He never said such a thing. So pure, such an evolved soul on coming to this world] [HINDI – what have we done to Him.] [HINDI – Son keep your right hand on the ground, right hand. Left hand towards Me] [HINDI – Hold My foot from below with your right hand. Is it slightly better?] [HINDI – Has the palpitation reduced little bit? Is it happening?] 

SY: [HINDI – Little bit] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – It’s reduced, isn’t it?] [HINDI – Brother are you feeling cool breeze? Not coming. Okay, now you forgive everyone] [HINDI – First forgive the army people as you are in the army, forgive the army men first.] 

SYogi: [HINDI – No, he’s not in the army, Mother] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Then in what is he?] 

SYogi: [HINDI – He’s a civilian, a contractor] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – He’s a contractor?] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Yes] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Then whom should I say are those he should forgive?] 

SYogi: [HINDI – He should forgive everyone] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Forgive all government employees then] [HINDI – Who troubles the contractors?] 

SYogi: [HINDI – All those only trouble] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Forgive the government servants] [HINDI – See you are benefiting from it. Forgive all those who have troubled you.] 

[HINDI – No, I thought he’s wearing khaki clothes, so I thought of saying military] [HINDI – Are you okay? Feeling good? Now put your right hand towards Me, like this] [HINDI – Now see, it will be a little hot. It is hot? Will cool down. And you son?] [HINDI – Are you benefiting? Is the palpitation reduced somewhat from before?] [HINDI – Is her valve absent? What do the doctors say?] 

SY: [HINDI – The valve is to be replaced] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Valve is to be replaced. Did you bring the prescription?] [HINDI – Child, you catch hold of My feet. Doctor, just see what it is.] [HINDI – Now in your heart you say, “I am the Spirit.”] 

SY: [HINDI – I am the Spirit] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Hmm, say it again, “Mother, I am the Spirit.”] [HINDI – Are you improving? You don’t feel coolness now? Okay, now you take the contract of God – okay?] [HINDI – There is no problem that place. There is welfare of the world. You are alright.] He’s got it. Now just see him here, he has diabetes. Where are the doctors? Will you take him down? Alexander, just take him and see to him, that his spleen is given full vibrations and that his chakras are cleaned up. [HINDI – You see, they will take you] 

SYogini: [UNCLEAR] 

Shri Mataji: Matric in Computer? 

SYogini: [UNCLEAR] [HINDI – It’s alright. Keep on saying, “I am the Spirit.” What problem do you have, son?] 

SYogini: [HINDI – There is too much pain in the back, throbbing pains like someone is hitting] [HINDI – at the back. It feels like that. Can’t sleep at night also.] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – It’s spondylosis] 

SY: [HINDI – Mother, my back is actually numb since yesterday] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] Spondylosis 

SY: [HINDI – It’s Spondylosis] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – You?] 

SYogini: [HINDI – They’ve removed piles from the rectum but they say, it’s herpes] [HINDI – It feels pricking frequently. Some times it’s okay but sometimes it pricks] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Do you apply some cream to it?] 

SYogini: [HINDI – Many creams. Whatever ointment they give, I apply] [HINDI – Get temporary relief] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Bring the ointment they give. I will vibrate it then it will help] [HINDI – Okay, whichever ointment they give] 

SY: [HINDI – Have to apply any ointment] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Whichever ointment is there, bring it to me. I will vibrate it then the essence of it will come.] 

SYogini: [HINDI – I don’t live here. Live in some village outside] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Where do you live?] 

SYogini: [HINDI – Khandesh, Jalgaon side] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – You’ve come from Jalgaon. Come to Dhulia] 

SYogini: [HINDI – Who, when?] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – On the 12th. [MARATHI] [HINDI – Did you bring any type of oil etc or anything?] 

SY: [HINDI – No] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Then bring it here. Vibrate that] 

SY: [UNCLEAR] 

Shri Mataji: Achcha! Curative 

SY: [UNCLEAR] 

Shri Mataji: What? 

SY: [UNCLEAR] not to take to curative cure 

Shri Mataji: Who said?

SY: You only. Doesn’t matter. 

Shri Mataji: Take it, it’s alright, doesn’t matter Only it’s for the Sahaja yogis. [HINDI – Come, sit down here.] Now come along, sit down. Now, what you have to do, is to work for Me – alright? You help Me out – isn’t it? Put your hand down there. Did you get cool breeze? 

SY: No. 

Shri Mataji: No – in your heart. Put your hand there. Put this, sit down, sit down on the ground. Sit down comfortably. Now put it on your heart and just say that, “I’m not shabd-jalam, I’m the Spirit.” Slowly, inside your heart. “I’m not shabd-jalam, I’m the Spirit.” 

SYogi: We shouldn’t form different groups after this so that the…. 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – There’s for diabetes also. Are you feeling the cool breeze?] 

[HINDI – Getting it. You? Getting it. It will come, keep the hand in place. Achcha, who’s there? Spondylitis,] [HINDI – You also. Who else is there?] 

SYogi: Any other cases of Spondylitis? Please come on one side. 

SY: Spine? 

Shri Mataji: Spondylosis. [HINDI – If there’re any in Spondylitis, it’s quite long.] 

SYogi: [UNCLEAR] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Wait for some time more] 

SYogi: I’m almost done 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – How are you now?] 

SY: [UNCLEAR] 

SYogi: Spondylosis [HINDI – Come this side] 

Shri Mataji: What’s happening? Keep your eyes open. Hmm, keep your eyes open [MARATHI] You see because this is the heart center here represented. You see, this is the heart center and she is still not getting through because the heart is weak, you see, so it’s not. This is representation in the limbic area of the seven chakras, see. And now this one is the Vishuddhi, is this one and this is the heart – it’s not coming out [HINDI – Now is there palpitation in your heart? Do you have a guru? 

Did you have a guru?] [HINDI – You should tell Me that. Tell the truth] 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: Annh? 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Which Padmavati?] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] Annh? 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [CONVERSATION IN MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [HINDI – It’s badha, it’s bhoot [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [HINDI – This is another myth of this place] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [HINDI – It’s bhoot, it’s bhoot] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] Now, [HINDI – alright?] [HINDI – Now are you feeling okay? Are you getting cool breeze?] 

SYogi: [HINDI – One or two cases of cancer.] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Which one?] 

SYogi: [HINDI – He’s sitting in front (UNCLEAR)] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Is he sitting?] 

SYogi: [HINDI – There, in front] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – There, near the ladies] 

SYogi: [HINDI – The lady who is sitting on the sofa] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Cancer, which cancer is it?] [HINDI – Is it of the breast?] 

SYogi: I think it’s [HINDI – Breast and lungs. It went from the breast to the lungs] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Breast, I did before] 

SYogi: [HINDI – You saw her just yesterday] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – She is better] 

SYogi: She’s much better 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – He is still outside.] Give her vibrations on her left arm, anyone, on her left arm. 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] Hmm, now better? Still not coming up, the Kundalini. Has to come up. [MARATHI] [MARATHI] You take him inside, I think, would be better. 

[MARATHI] He has got, I think, jaundice sort of a thing, liver. Give him some [HINDI – Radish leaves] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Radish leaves (UNCLEAR), radish leaves] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [MARATHI] Hmm [MARATHI] relax [MARATHI] Can somebody see her now? She’s much better. Come along. [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [CONVERSATION IN MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [CONVERSATION IN MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: Your eyes are not alright? 

SYogini: Yes Turn around. [UNCLEAR] You can’t see? 

SYogini: No, I can see [UNCLEAR] 

Shri Mataji: [NAME UNCLEAR] turn around [HINDI – Are you getting cool breeze? Getting cool breeze. Are you getting it?] 

Shri Mataji: [CONVERSATION IN MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [CONVERSATION IN MARATHI] [HINDI – Keep your hand on your stomach. Left hand. Towards the left side? ] [HINDI – Keep hand on the left side, on spleen. Keep your right hand, left hand towards Me. Yes, it’s alright] 

Shri Mataji: Hmm [MARATHI] What’it? 

SYogi: Much better now, Mother, the polio boy 

Shri Mataji: What boy? 

SYogi: Polio 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Yes] 

SYogi: Much better 

Shri Mataji: Much better. 

Shri Mataji: Take out your [HINDI – Spectacles] If you can bring some light for him. I would like to cure his Agnya. 

SYogi: Mother, 

Shri Mataji: Hmm 

SYogi: What does he want, light? 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Yes. In his this portion there is darkness. If this is shown light, it will be cured] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [HINDI – Where has My handkerchief fallen?] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [CONVERSATION IN MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [CONVERSATION IN MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [CONVERSATION IN MARATHI] Dry ginger powder and sugar to be taken early in the morning during winter time, to be taken by this kind of migraine. It is due to liver problems. You feel [HINDI – like we say, nauseated] you feel that [UNCLEAR], feel like vomiting and you, you don’t like the Sun and you get headache – all this is a sign of a bad liver. We have two types of livers. One is a liver [ASIDE – MARATHI] One – one liver which is the thought and one liver we call it as the cold liver – two types. That means, a liver that is sluggish and liver over active. 

The person who has a very over-active liver, will be a thin person. The one who has a sluggish, will be a person with a bigger body. The one who has got very active liver, will have this kind of problems. He’ll think too much, he’ll vomit – we have many here[LAUGHS] and he’ll vomit and he will also do, sort of, over-activity, you see, and he can’t bear the Sun – all these things. Anything fried such a person eats or anything, he gets into vomit. The other is the sluggish one. In the sluggish one, you get allergies, allergies are with that kind of, which is a sluggish one. So that’s how we have two types of livers. For the first one, you have to give for the first one, you have to give, what you call this … [HINDI – dry ginger powder] and sugar or during winter time and summer time you have to give kokum water with sugar but lot of sugar is needed for such a person and for the left side – sugar sustains the attention. Generally, we doctors say that don’t take sugar – is not possible. 

For the right-sided person, sugar is very essential, the left-sided person – salt. Now for the left-sided person, you have to give something like geru, which is a Calcium in a very fine form, and it’s a geru. Is very good to apply, if they do not get rid of their allergies, to have some in, to get rid of your allergies with Calcium but in childhood, if the children are giver Calcinol or Calcium something, and Vitamin A and D from the age of say, 8 years to 12 years, you’ll seldom, you’ll not get this allergic conditions. These allergic conditions only come in because you do not have sufficient Calcium but after 12 years or 14 years, you can’t take much Calcium, you see. So the Calcium if it is given – not injections but something that you eat in Calcium form in milk – but milk is sometimes not sufficient, so give something – I think this Calcinol children like very much, so best is to give all of them Calcium. I told, I mean when I went to Japan, I told people, why don’t you take to Calcium? I was surprised, they are, now see how Japanese have grown in heights, you get height and you develop a balance. 

SYogi: This boy is light now, Mother. 

Shri Mataji: Are you feeling the cool breeze in both the hands? Good. 

[HINDI – Brother are you feeling good? Are you getting cool breeze on your head?] [HINDI – Keep your hand like this and see] Just see this gentleman with diabetes – put him left to the right. Can you. John, take him. Alright, this lady also [UNCLEAR] you look after her. She has got diabetes. Put her left to the right and tell them what is to be done with the photograph. Now which one is another diabetic patient? 

SYogi: Diabetes – any diabetic patient? 

Shri Mataji: No, no, no. [HINDI – His Kundalini is at the base, doesn’t rise. Raise the Kundalini, raise it.] [HINDI – Still, still at the back. Hmm] Are you feeling nice and joy? [HINDI – Yes, keep your hands open] so that you get more vibrations, alright? [HINDI -This is Chaitanya Lehri] You’ve read Swananda lehri, Chaitanya Lehri, have you read Saundarya Lehri – these are the books you should read, alright? We should not create Shabd-jalam. 

SY: Shri Aurobindo 

Shri Mataji: Hmm? 

SY: Shri Aurobindo 

Shri Mataji: No, no, no that’s all shabd jalam again. 

Shri Aurobindo – just talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk – alright? That makes you mad. That’s why Kabira has said, [Hindi – ‘Padhi, Padhi pandit moorakh bhayo’]. I didn’t understand what he meant at that time but I’ve seen now, people who read too much, it all goes into your head and they’re all inside, you’re outside, you’re nowhere. Too much reading isn’t [UNCLEAR – USEFUL?] 

SYogi: Experience is the best 

Shri Mataji: Experience alright. So now you should try to experience, alright? 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Which problem do you say?] 

SYogini: Spondylosis [HINDI – and fell from the stairs] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Okay, will have to see you personally. And? 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: Hmm 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: Hmm [MARATHI] Hmm? Memory is on the left hand side. See, if your memory is short, best is to raise your left and put it to the right.

SYogi: [HINDI – You do like this [UNCLEAR] 

Shri Mataji: [UNCLEAR] [MARATHI] [HINDI – Son, is the cool breeze coming?] Are you feeling cool breeze in the hand? 

SY: No 

SYogini: You said light for him 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – What?] 

SYogini: [HINDI – You said light for him] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Wait, I’ll do it just now, I’ll raise it. Don’t worry for him, have concern for yourself] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Put both hands towards Me. Concern for yourself] 

SY: [HINDI – Mother, my back is good now but this is paining] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – I’ll do it just now] [HINDI – Everything is happening. Your back is good just like that only. 

I’ll do it in sometime.] [HINDI – I’m seeing everyone, isn’t it? Don’t hurry. Just worry about yourself.] [HINDI – Okay, if I settle your back, what will you do after that?] 

SY: [HINDI – I will serve Mother] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – I don’t need any service] [HINDI – I’m, Myself, serving all the people, what is there to serve Me] 

SY: [HINDI – Keep Mother in my heart] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – I don’t need anything My child but will you serve others, is the point] [HINDI – Will you serve others?] 

SYogini: [HINDI – I do] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – What?] 

SYogini: [HINDI – I already do] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – What?] 

SYogini: [HINDI – Taking care of everyone] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Like?] 

SYogini: [HINDI – At home] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Not at home. 

Everyone looks after at home. Something outside also] [HINDI – Will you do, unnh? Will you help everyone? Then it’s okay, it has a meaning] [HINDI – otherwise what’s the use of lighting such lamps, which burn out at home only. Unnh?] What’s it? 

SYogi: Right Nabhi is still catching. 

Shri Mataji: Only? 

SYogi: Left Agnya is much better. Still bad, much better. 

Your hand is clearing that. [HINDI – Hmm, now it’s alright. Are you feeling the cool breeze, son?] 

SY: [HINDI – Yes] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – No. you are worrying for him. Nothing to worry.] [HINDI – I’m seeing/taking care of him. Don’t worry for him. My foot is on his back only.] [HINDI – Okay, you get your realization. 

Hmm. You? Just worried for the child.] [HINDI – First get your realization so that you don’t ever get sick, child will also not be sick] [HINDI – You can cure the child also. You have only one child, I have thousands.] [HINDI – For who all to worry, tell? For one child you all are so concerned,] [HINDI – worry about the One who has thousands. Leave it. The child will be completely well.] [HINDI – Leave the concern absolutely. 

The child will be cured, taken up for that only, yes] [HINDI – You should be able to give up also. Till you keep holding on, the work will not be done] [HINDI – Do you know the tale of Draupadi? Draupadi’s tale is such] [HINDI – that when the Pandavas lost her and when she saw that now her chastity is at risk] [HINDI – when they started pulling her sari, then she held her sari by her teeth, saying ‘Kri’] [HINDI – Why didn’t she say, ‘shna’ because she thought that the end of her sari would slip] [HINDI – so she kept on holding between her teeth at ‘Kri’. Till she] [HINDI – kept on holding at ‘Kri’ till then, Krishna was sitting comfortably. As soon as] [HINDI – she left her sari and said, ‘shna’, then ‘Shankh, chakra, gada, padma, garuda, lei sidhare’] [HINDI – At the moment she said ‘shna’, then [HINDI – ‘Dwarika mein shor bhayo, shor bhayo bhari, Shankh, chakra, gada, padma, garud lei sidhari’] [HINDI – So, you should be able to leave or give up also. Just now,] [HINDI – till you keep holding on, the work will not be done. Just give it up.] Done. Better now? Annh, is it alright? 

SYogi: Yes, Mother. 

Shri Mataji: It’s coming out? 

SYogi: Left agnya is clear, so it’s coming out. 

Shri Mataji: So see, coming out, good! Now don’t think, don’t think, don’t think, don’t think. 

SYogi: Still heat coming from Left Nabhi. 

Shri Mataji: Hmm, left nabhi. Left nabhi right, doesn’t matter. Still left is coming. 

SYogi: Heat is coming out. 

Shri Mataji: Heat is coming out quite a lot. Annh, now what you do, you sit down here with left hand towards Me and right hand on the ground, on the, on the. 

SYogi: [UNCLEAR] Swadhishthana.] 

Shri Mataji: Alright, [UNCLEAR] 

Shri Mataji: Now put it. Mahishasur Mardini will work out on him. Haan! [HINDI – Are you getting the cool breeze? Close your eyes] 

SYogi: Let’s take the mantras – Mahishasur Mardini. Om Twameva Saakshat 

Shri Mataji: No, slowly 

SYogi: Mahishasur Mardini Sakshat 

Shri Mataji: You see, the thing is, if you say it loudly, everybody will be disturbed, so better take him there and let him put his left hand 

SYogi: Okay 

Shri Mataji: Hmm [HINDI – Did you get the cool breeze, child? Did you get cool breeze in your hands?] 

Christine, the one who is in front of you, just see if he’s got his realization? And as there was another one who was sitting here [HINDI – Where did that gentleman go?] [HINDI – Has he come? He’s coming?] Hmm, he’s got it [HINDI – You are now realized] [HINDI – Now what is it to be realized, what happened, how did it happen, for all this take the book and know it] [HINDI – Come, I’m seeing you only. Come here and get your realization. Are you both realized?] [HINDI – Not yet? Get them] Get them realization. Some men should work on men and women should work on women. 

That’s the style in India. So these two gentlemen, some two gentleman should come and work on them. Come along Fogarty, and who else Mia, you can work also. [HINDI – Now this condition has come that people come from outside and work on us] [HINDI – It’s not a good thing. At least in this we should go out. In everything else it is alright] [HINDI – Did you get it child, cool in the hands?] Can you look after her? This lady. [MARATHI] Who else is not realized? [HINDI – Did you get it Mrs. Siddhu – realization? 

Did you get it child?] No – let her have it. [MARATHI] Who else? Is she alright? 

SYogini: [UNCLEAR] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Alright but you have not been realized, get your realization] [HINDI – You should be realized] You must get to your Spirit, alright? One minute, just go there. Yes, that’s not the thing. You must get your realization – alright? Yes, who else? [HINDI – You child, did you get cool breeze – no. 

You? Getting little. Okay] Just work on these two ladies. Who will work on these two? [HINDI – You go at the back] They will work on you. Now, is she alright? What do you say? [HINDI – Did you get cool breeze, child?]

SYogi: [HINDI – Come, sit here.] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – What?] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Mrs. Michael Singh’s, her daughter is there. Some problem in heart] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Don’t ever wear anything black around the neck, any talisman] [HINDI – Never wear a talisman or mascot. Leave it. Okay, alright.] [HINDI – You come here. You come here.] [HINDI – Are you alright child? Just look this side.] Turn round. [HINDI – What is this?] 

SY: [UNCLEAR] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – What? Aright, but take it out for a minute] [UNCLEAR] [HINDI – But take it out for a minute because this …. no, not here but in front, there, hmm] [HINDI – You keep your hand on the liver. I will see him also. Child, look here. Look towards Me] Hmm. Are you getting cool breeze in the hand? Hmm [UNCLEAR] You have got? [HINDI – What’s there in the heart?] 

SYogini: [UNCLEAR] Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Annh, what happens?] 

SYogini: [UNCLEAR] Watch Me. 

[HINDI – Close your eyes Mrs. C. Kumar] [HINDI – Where is your son?] [UNCLEAR] Hmm, seeing better? Now, you’re seeing better. Put your eyes like this. Better now? Seeing better now? Good, May God bless you! [HINDI – Mrs Siddhu, now he’s alright.] Annh, yes. These are the photographs and we will tell you what is to be done. 

Come here to the left side, please. She’s realized now. Have to put the 

SYogi: Bandhan 

Shri Mataji: Bandhan, yes 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Also you should tell Dr. Vikram, she should know of this] because she’s dealing with it and we have got fully cured. How to cure nicely [UNCLEAR] I will just see to your spondylitis. Umm? [HINDI – Come sit here] [MARATHI] SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [HINDI – Sit facing that side] [MARATHI] SY: [HINDI – Naughtiness] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Naughtiness? Children should be naughty] Hmm, nice music, you see at this time, say raag ‘saarang’. Alright, good they’ve found out [UNCLEAR] No, but you have to tell them, you see, hmm, what is to be done. [HINDI – Now is it slightly better?] [HINDI – Still there is problem in the liver. 

Keep your left hand on the liver.] [HINDI – Still there is too much liver – keep from inside, hmm. Did you feel the cool breeze or not?] [HINDI – Stop worrying about the child. You have to get the cool breeze first] Give her realization – this lady, with a blue sari. How you feel? 

SYogi: They’re charging, Mother. We don’t charge anything. 

Shri Mataji: Who is charging? Which year did it happen? 

SYogi: Mr. Kulkarni is. 

Shri Mataji: [UNCLEAR] [MARATHI] 

SYogi: The new one, Mother, the brand new one. You told the chakras he’s mentioned 

Shri Mataji: But he’s a Marathi or an English. Marathi one may be [HINDI – It’s in hindi] 

SYogi: Mr. Kulkarni, 

Shri Mataji: [UNCLEAR] [MARATHI] 

SYogi: Where is the Marathi copy of this? Marathi copy? 

SYogi: Marathi copy is stolen 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Five rupees] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogi: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [HINDI – It’s alright. Five rupees you say.] [HINDI – It’s a whole book on Sahaja Yog. Is five rupees alright? The cost of printing] [HINDI – Among 1500 children [UNCLEAR] [HINDI – Okay, you asked, five rupees. Is it alright?] [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [HINDI – And open your eyes] [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [HINDI – No, this is not Golden Amla but it’s Ramtirth. It appears some kerosene oil is mixed in this] [MARATHI] [HINDI – Put in Golden Amla. This doesn’t look right. Name is such – Ramtirth – so big. There is some kerosene oil in this] [HINDI – Okay, you can put some of this in that. There are vibrations in it.] [MARATHI] 

SYogi: Change the music. 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – What’s this music – chant the name of Rama and do your work?] [HINDI – What will happen by chanting the name?] 

[HINDI – Sit down, sit down. Sit on the chair, sit on the chair. Sit comfortably. I’m going to see everyone] [HINDI – Now the diseases are also not from the past one or two years. They’re since many years] 

SYogi: [HINDI – See how black smoke is coming out? 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] What is her situation? Is alright? [HINDI – Very strange case] – great person 

SYogi: [HINDI – See, how black is coming out] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Are you alright?] [HINDI – If you’re getting well by sitting down only, then keep on sitting comfortably] [HINDI – Put your attention here. You’ll get well even by sitting here. It happens, isn’t it, then why trouble Mother?] 

SY: [HINDI – Mother put this right yesterday. Today this is paining] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Will be fine. Put one hand down. Right hand towards Me, left hand..] [HINDI – Whichever side pains, put that hand towards Me, the other hand down.] [HINDI – the hand that pains put towards Me, the other hand put on the ground] [MARATHI] [HINDI – One you are not getting well. Did you have some guru? How did you wear saffron clothes?] [HINDI – This one. I get nervous with saffron color, remember Ravan] [MARATHI] [HINDI – Just see, in this age how pink the face has become, just sitting here] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Hmm. 

See the eyes, see the eyes also] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] Keep your hand like this [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [HINDI – Take the photo and work with it. Hmm, your wife is fine. That oil is not right] [HINDI – Yes, take another oil and put this vibrated oil in it and apply. ] [HINDI – See, otherwise hibiscus oil is good] You try Hibiscus oil – the pure one, okay 

SY: She’ll be alright, Mother? 

Shri Mataji: She’ll be alright, she’s already alright. 

SYogi: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [HINDI – Just hold your breath, doctor sahab] [HINDI – Now leave it. Is it right heart? Yes, leave it. Do you have some breathing trouble?] [HINDI – Again hold your breath. 

Leave it. Now again hold your breath. Now leave it] [HINDI – Now see your neck. Lot of difference] much looser. Unnh? Turn around. It’s alright, much better. Just, I’ll ask somebody to fix it up even better, annh? Got it. 

SYogi: Vision she’s much worried about it 

Shri Mataji: Take out your spectacles. Now see. Warren 

SYogi: Dr. Warren 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – You should apply sindur in our culture, whatever be the state] [HINDI – We don’t believe in all this. We don’t believe in widowhood in Sahaja yoga] [HINDI – We should not come before Mother like this. Do the husbands practice widowerhood?] [HINDI – Then why should ladies believe in widowhood? Whatever there is, is in the heart – why outside?] We have to fix her up. Yes, she’s alright now but just fix it up. 

SYogi: Yes Alright, doctor sahab, see your eyes. Do it like that. 

Hard, again, again. Your eyesight has improved. See now, see My hand. Hmm. [HINDI – Now you have it tested and see. See the smoke, how black it is coming out] You have wept a lot. [HINDI – Am I right? Did you cry emotionally] Now you won’t fall. I made a hole there. [LAUGHS] See, how younger she is looking now. 

SYogi: She has to do lot of sahaja yog work, she has to be younger. She’s going to do. She’s very simple. Now, with testing you will know. Alright? He’ll fix up your spondylisis completely. It’s alright, much better, but he’ll just fix it up nicely. Doctor… 

SYogini: Am I allowed to take that course that [UNCLEAR] 

Shri Mataji: Umm? Yes, yes, please. Give her a book and a picture. 

Bye-bye [HINDI – Yes, you come. How are you?] 

SYogini: [HINDI – Spondylosis hurts a lot and eyes seem dim] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Eyes, what?] 

SYogini: [HINDI – Seem dim] 

Shri Mataji: [UNCLEAR] [HINDI – Okay face that side] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Child what’s happened to you?] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – I’ll see her just now. Keep your hand on her heart, right hand] [HINDI – How are you?] Better now? 

SYogi: This is Fazalbai. 

Shri Mataji: Let Me have [MARATHI]. See on your face is less now. 

Yes, ask him. Where is your husband? Just see on your hand. Less now and the nose is much less. [MARATHI] 

SYogi: [HINDI – This Fazalbai is a prominent person from Maharashtra] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – What?] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Mr. Fazalbhai, who has come 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – I know him very well.] Mr. Fazalbhai, do you remember Me? No. I came to you for yoga and wanted to do a lot. Nothing was done. 

Now I would request you to do something about it. Alright? You have to organize something, isn’t it? 

SYogi: He’s one of the sahaja yogis. 

Shri Mataji: I know he’s also. You see, he knows Me very well, Mr. Fazalbhai and who told Me was this gentleman from Singapore. [HINDI – What’s his name – Salilbhoy.] He asked Me to see you but he’s so much possessed by so many other people. You see, all the rich people are always invaded by people who want money and somehow or other, they think, he’s so much invaded by people impossible. I don’t want any money, you know that very well but we have to organize it in a way where you don’t need money, don’t need money much, but this now, see how Ahuja has arranged. 

We have paid for everything, he’s not paid for anything you can ask. We have not, he’s not paid for [HINDI – Did you pay for anything ever? We never took any money from you] 

SYogi: [HINDI – No] 

Shri Mataji: Never but only thing, we all have to organize it properly, which was not done. You have to organize it. You are such a well-known person in yoga – this is real yoga, alright? Please try to help Me. Actually, we don’t need any money – nothing – but organize it. Now, somebody has given Me a very beautiful land in Powai, absolutely free – can you imagine – because I was insisting that, “I will not take anything with black money,” so somebody very kindly, has donated Me a free land – not to Me but to this organization. As it is we have no organization, it’s a living organization but we had to have a Trustee, so we had some trustees and by God’s Grace, I’m sure, we’ll be able to build something here but you have to talk to people about it, you have to bring them out. He has done it. 

You see, I cured his heart, alright – I cured the heart of so many people who have… but I must say, it’s special about him. The way he took it up upon himself. You are so influential, you can do a lot, alright? Please try because this is the only way you can help others in the genuine way. All other organizations of helping, is very superficial. So I have to request you, God has put you in that position to do His job, alright. You are specially posted. 

SYogi: Now he’s always forward, 

Shri Mataji: He’s very good but [HINDI – the thing is] 

SYogi: he’s never behind, he’s always forward 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – but what happens] wrong type of people always grab these things [HINDI – doesn’t it happen, it happened to you also] [HINDI – and we should take the genuine and it should be given to those who deserve it] [HINDI – If you had not organized it here] I mean, I would have done it – I’m doing already for thousands of people in the villages but say Poona city, I would say, you have done a good thing for Poona city. In the same way, he can do a lot in Bombay, I tell you – Mr. Fazalbhai can. I’ve met him thrice. 

You’re better. [HINDI – Aren’t you? Come here behind] Now you see this Dhumaal. He’s just a ordinary, we should say, a farmer and he has given realization to ten thousand people and cured, I don’t now, how many. So many have been cured but curing is not the main thing. It’s first to get to God. That’s what Zoraster has said that, “You have to become.” Becoming is the point. We have one very great Parsi doctor here. I don’t know if you have met him. 

Where is Rustom? Rustom Burgorjee 

SY: He’s inside 

SYogi: He’s attending to some patient 

Shri Mataji: He’s gone out somewhere. You must meet him. He’s a Psychiatrist, he’s also a doctor who, he’s the consultant in London, very big hospital, St. Thomas’ Hospital and he’s working it very well. This is absolutely genuine. There’s no question of money or anything What money can one pay for God’s love – isn’t it? Very simple. Now this is extremely simple thing I gave you vibrated. Now you put it in a katori(bowl) or something and put some water. It will never be spoilt. 

All the time you can use it as a cream. Always whenever you want, you can put some water but don’t use soap at all. Just put this, leave it there and wash it off. The whole thing will come out and also good for your liver, you can put it on your liver, little bit and then take it out. It will take out your heat. But I would like you to take some sugar vibrated also, which you both should take because both have liver problems and it will help you. Ask them to put their hands on the liver, both of them – the right hand towards Me. [HINDI – Are you alright?] SY: [HINDI – Anything doesn’t come] 

Shri Mataji: Spondylytis 

SY: [HINDI – I have spondylytis and migraine] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – It happens because of that] 

SYogi: Migraine 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – It will happen] [MARATHI] You go to Dr. Warren. [HINDI – He will fix it just now. 

Given you vibrations. Now go, okay] 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [HINDI – No, no it’s alright] 

SY: [HINDI – Can nothing be done for the eyes?] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – All that he will fix] [HINDI – You go and see him. This should be fixed first. I have given vibrations and cured it but he will turn your neck and fix it] Doctor Warren – Child: [HINDI – Grandmother] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – What’s the matter child?] 

Child: [Hindi – Grandmother, Sudha didi has come and she’s asking me to go to the park] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – How is Anand?] 

Child: He’s much better.

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Give his sweater, the other one, torna sweater] 

Child: [HINDI – I’m asking [UNCLEAR] 

SYogi: Yes, Mother 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Yes there is] 

Child: [HINDI – Should I go or not?] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Go] 

SY: [UNCLEAR] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Anthony, who is the driver, go to that] [HINDI – Go soon and come back] 

SYogi: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] You fix up her 

SYogi: Spondylytis 

Shri Mataji: and tell her how to improve her eyesight. [HINDI – You come and listen] Now Pradhan, you won’t believe he’s 79 years of age and he’s B.G.Pradhan, and he’s been working for Sahaja yoga for the last 

SYogi: 12 years 

Shri Mataji: 12 years and he has seen Me working also. 

He’s come to America, last year also he came and, still he’s going strong. He’s one of the trustees we have. Still he’s [UNCLEAR], he’s 79. Mr. B.G.Pradhan: Power, Mataji is the Power. [UNCLEAR] is here 

Shri Mataji: Just see his liver. What’s it? [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Are you realized, annh? Did you get the cool breeze? 

SY: [HINDI – Got it.] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – And you? 

Okay, then take the photograph and work hard. You have to establish] [HINDI – yourself otherwise you’ll again catch some disease and come to Me. Did you feel the cool breeze properly? Okay] [HINDI – Those who didn’t feel the cool breeze, ask these people to help you. Who all didn’t feel the cool breeze? Raise your hand] [HINDI – Just now you are not well] Just see [HINDI – and are you okay? Good. Give him realization] Just see her, this lady. [HINDI – You get up, child] Give her realization, this one. [HINDI – And who didn’t feel the cool breeze?] 

This is Rustom Burjorgee. He’s just standing there. Meet him there. [HINDI – You both didn’t feel the cool breeze?] Just give them realization, these two persons. [HINDI – You get up and go and sit there, you’ll receive it] Take them in the cold and what are they doing, Sahaja yogis. Ask them to give realization. [MARATHI] [MARATHI] 

SY: [HINDI – No, Shri Mataji] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [HINDI – Sardarji, you got the cool breeze. Did you feel the cool breeze or not? No] [HINDI – Then you go to get your realization, I will see him. 

Sit down. You go and get your realization] [MARATHI] [HINDI – Did you get your realization? Annh? No, you’re not realized? Go and get your realization. [MARATHI] [HINDI- Go and get your realization. What fun is there in life without realization?] [HINDI – Are you realized, son?] 

SY: [HINDI – Yes, he is [UNCLEAR] Slightly warm] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – No, okay, they will see you] Just see this lady also here, can you? Come along Mary, come along. 

Just see this lady. Flavia, why don’t you see this lady? [HINDI – Yes, hand like this] This lady and this one also. [HINDI – You have to be realized.] [HINDI – Realization you have to get. You have so much problem of the liver, isn’t it? Yes] [HINDI – Be realized. By being realized all problems, diseases etc will vanish soon] [HINDI – because once you’ve got to your Spirit, then nothing left to be had. Are you realized?] What’s the problem? 

Annh? 

SY: [UNCLEAR] 

Shri Mataji: Where’s the problem? Annh? Both the nabhis. Give bandhan to their nabhis. This lady? You’ve got it. Okay, give bandhan to her nabhi. [MARATHI] [HINDI – Bless you.] 

SYogini: [HINDI – Have to ask You [UNCLEAR 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – What? 

Now leave it.] 

SYogini: [UNCLEAR] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – No, no leave it. He will not say also. Leave it] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogi: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] Just look at him These children, have they got realization? You got cool breeze? Annh? Did you feel the cool breeze? What’s the matter with the child? [MARATHI] 

SYogini: I have got diabetes

 Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [CONVERSATION IN MARATHI] [MARATHI] Did you have any guru? 

SYogini: [HINDI – No guru] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – You never had] 

SYogini: [HINDI – Never] 

SYogini: [HINDI – Okay, I have to bring my husband also to You. 

When should I bring?] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Now the session is over today] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Today it is finished] 

SYogini: [HINDI – Then, when should I bring?] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – We are not here now] 

SYogini: [HINDI – I can bring immediately] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogini: [MARATHI]

 Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [HINDI – Hmm, now are you well? Can you turn your neck? Could you turn? Annh? 

SYogini: [HINDI – Too much pain in the head] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Everything will go. The pain is due to this only] [HINDI – Now you have to be a Muslim. Put these fingers in your ears and say, ‘Allah ho Akhbar’] [HINDI – Put your fingers, raise your head and say, “Allah ho Akhbar.”] [HINDI – Raise your head and say, yes] 

SYogini: ‘Allah ho Akhbar’ chanting 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – and forgive all the Muslims who have taken away your property. 

Now it’s alright] [HINDI – Are you feeling good? This will cure your headache. You go to Dr. Warren for sometime] [UNCLEAR CONVERSATION] Rustom, can you get somebody to explain this lady, how to cure her diabetes. She’s got her realization alright but how to do it, can you explain? [MARATHI CONVERSATION] [MARATHI CONVERSATION] [MARATHI CONVERSATION] 

SYogini: [HINDI – Can I bring my husband to see You?] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Go and bring him. It’s good if he comes just now] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Come just now if you have to] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Bring him soon] [HINDI – And you first learn from him how to cure yourself] [MARATHI] [MARATHI CONVERSATION] [MARATHI CONVERSATION] [MARATHI CONVERSATION] Better, better she is. [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [MARATHI] [HINDI – Is it alright?] Feeling peaceful [MARATHI CONVERSATION] [MARATHI CONVERSATION] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Come in front. From that side] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [HINDI – Are you feeling good?] 

[HINDI – She also. Whom do you believe in?] 

SY: [HINDI – The Mother, Ambabai] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Hmm? The Goddess] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Ask, ‘Mataji are You sakshat Shri Amba?] [HINDI – “Are You sakshat Shri Ambaji?” Ask yourself, don’t doubt] 

SYogini: [HINDI – Mataji, are You sakshat Ambaji?] 

Shri Mataji: Say 

SYogini: [HINDI – Mataji, are You sakshat Ambaji?] 

SYogi: [HINDI – What are you wearing around your neck?] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – My hand [UNCLEAR], what? It’s alright.] 

[HINDI – You are getting the cool breeze. Are you feeling in your hand? Not feeling the cool breeze?] [HINDI – Whose daughter is this? Your daughter?] 

SYogini: [HINDI – No, my elder brother-in-law’s] 

SYogi: [HINDI – [UNCLEAR] said that he has to learn all of this. I said, “Surely learn it.”] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – If he learns, the whole military will change. Will also put you there] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Do we make such promises?] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Promise in the heart, that I will teach others] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Is it alright, are you getting it? 

What’s happening to you?] 

SYogini: [HINDI – I told You (UNCLEAR)] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Okay, stand up, stand up] [MARATHI] Vishuddhi – You should not feel guilty, alright? Don’t feel guilty. 

SY: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – It’s there. Are you feeling the cool breeze?] [HINDI – Now do God’s work. He will give you a lot of strength. Will you do?] [MARATHI] 

SYogi: [HINDI – You’ve asked her to stand there] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Whom? Yes] [MARATHI] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Can happen even if you are at a distance. 

Go back, more back, about 2 feet] Why don’t the Sahaja yogis hold the hands instead of these people because they are not realized souls? Hold his hand. It’s Vishuddhi. Ask somebody to put the, put the hand on the Vishuddhi. 

SYogi: Non-sahaja yogis should not interfere. 

Shri Mataji: Hmm, should not because they’ll catch, have problems. Put your [MARATHI CONVERSATION] [HINDI – She’s like Mehtani’s daughter, this child] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Yes, yes] Let him not feel the pain. Are you feeling the pain? [MARATHI CONVERSATION 

SYogi: [HINDI – In 2 minutes we’ll shift in front] [HINDI – Enough. Is it alright? 

Are you feeling the cool breeze. Be happy, bless you.] [HINDI – Now left hand towards the photograph and right hand] outside and you have to say, “You are Durga,” okay? 

SYogini: [HINDI – I will take] 

Shri Mataji: “You are Amba” 

SYogi: [HINDI – Don’t wear black now] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] [MARATHI] 

SYogi: [MARATHI] 

Shri Mataji: [MARATHI] You are better now?

SYogi: Feeling little better. Nice to see you. [HINDI – See the movement of the Kundalini in the nabhi. Wait. See. Is it there in both sides?] 

[HINDI – Problem of Rajneesh] 

SYogi: [HINDI – Mother, please take it out] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – He’s evil] You should oppose all that nonsense. See, I saw him, I went to him, I saw him, he’s horrid. He’s a horrid person. I mean, people must use their brains. He says something, does something. Must understand 

SYogi: [HINDI – What is this in the hand? Take it out] 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Take that out also] 

SYogi: Raksha bandhan 

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Take it out for a minute. Now Raksha bandhan is over. Take it out] [HINDI – Because you catch by anything.] Put your left hand towards Me 

SYogi: [HINDI – Anything in your neck? What?]

Shri Mataji: [HINDI – Oh my! Take it out then, remove it] [HINDI – Ambaji also is wrong because they give with money. Okay, now keep the left hand] [HINDI – Left hand towards Me and right hand on the ground.]