Talk to Sahaja Yogis: God has given you a new personality of vibrations Founex Ashram, Founex (Switzerland)

Is this the normal size? Not at all. (Yogi: special size). So. Very good. How are you? How was the Guru Puja for you?  Ah Markandeya! Hello, how are you? How is your trouble? Is he alright?  (Brigitte: Yes Shri Mataji, he is alright) Oh, thank you very much Markandeya. Thank you.  (inaudible) Where should we put this? Beautiful. Is this from the school?  The situation is the same as I have in My house. Alright, now you sit down. So today, I was explaining in the bedroom to some of the Sahaj Yogis how this universe is created. And they said You should tell about this to us in the evening. But I think after dinner, is it worth it?  Today I wanted to show off the watch that My children have given me. This also came in the same prize. The watch was so big that they gave Me, for that you really need a wrestler to wear it. (luckily I could exchange it – french translation) And I saw the watch, and I did not know what to say. You see, it is said you should not open the mouth of the horse which is gifted to you. Of the (inaudible). Because they asked me, we are going for Guru Puja, and we collected some money for You in Switzerland. What should we give you? So I said, of course in Switzerland, watch. So they said, what kind? I said something sensible I would like to have Read More …

Guru Puja Evening Program Grand Hotel Leysin (Leysin American Schools), Leysin (Switzerland)

1984-07-14 Evening Program, Leysin, Switzerland. The basis of Kathak dance and Indian music Today, we had a very nice session of puja in the morning. And to celebrate that session in an artistic way, we have arranged this beautiful program of Kathak dancing for you. Now, Kathak word, as you know, comes from the word ‘Katha’, Katha means the story. It means the story. [Shri Mataji says something in Hindi, and man bows to her feet] May God bless you [followed by namaskar] And the story is to be told. This is a very ancient type of dancing, which was practised in the northern part of India. And then part of it also went to the south. And they used it in a different way. Now, Kathak is so ancient and so traditional that it has gone various changes and various aspects have been expressed in this style of dancing. To begin with, it was originally done to express the stories about the Gods and Goddesses. And their different way of dealing with human beings. Then gradually it became subtler and subtler. Then they started performing the dances of the Parabramha Shakti and all those things. Later on, when the Muslims came to North India, they introduced their delicate style to this style of dancing. And one of the Nawabs of Lucknow was very much fond of Kathak dancing. And he himself introduced so many ideas in this. So, also the romanticism, not the variety of Western style, but the Read More …

Guru Puja: The State of Guru Grand Hotel Leysin (Leysin American Schools), Leysin (Switzerland)

Guru Puja: The State of Guru  Guru Puja, Leysin (Switzerland), 14 July 1984. I bow to all the Sahaja Yogis of the world. It is very heartening to see so many of you assembled here to do the Guru Puja. To worship your Guru in person regarded as the highest blessing. But in my case, it’s a very different combination that I am your Mother and your Guru. So, you can understand how Shri Ganesha worshipped his Mother. You all are created in the same image of Shri Ganesha who worshipped his Mother and then He became the Adi Guru, the first Guru. He is the primordial essence of mastery. Only the Mother can make the child a master. And the motherhood in any Guru – whether male or female – can only make the disciple a Guru. So, first, you have to become the prophets and develop that motherhood within yourself, then you can make others also prophets.  Now, to become a Guru, what do we have to do after our Realisation? Guru word means gravity. Gravity means a person who is grave, who is deep, who is magnetic. Now as you have learnt in Sahaja Yoga that realisation takes place in complete effortlessness. So normally a Guru tries to make his disciples effortless, which is called as prayatna shaytilya – means ‘relax your efforts’. Without doing anything you got your prayatna shaytilya, otherwise Kundalini would not have risen. Then the second stage is ‘vichara shaithilya’ – the thoughtless Read More …

Havan on Shri Krishna’s Birthday Tannay (Switzerland)

Havan on Shri Krishna’s Birthday. Tannay (Switzerland), 31 August 1983. Sahaja yogi: Hundred and eight names of Vishnu. Shri Mataji: Where is it? That is the best, if you have [Unclear] Sahaja yogi: Should we give the translation in French and in English or in French? Shri Mataji: French is all right. So first you read the translation, then the name and then Om Swaha. That would be better, understood better. First read the translation. Who will do the translation? Sahaja yogi 2: I can do, Shri Mataji, but it is the other book. Shri Mataji: You will do the English. You can do? Alexander? You can do English? Sahaja yogi 2: I can read in English. Shri Mataji: No, that would be in Sanskrit. What I am saying, you read French. [Mantra chanting starts.] Four times, Shri Ganesha Sakshat. Four times, Shri Ganesha Gauri Sakshat. [Aside remarks: Mother speaks in Marathi. Monitors the decoration and other essentials required for the havan] Agni Devita Sakshat, three times. Sahaja yogi : Shall I explain in English? Shri Mataji: What I am saying, first you have to say it in French, the translation. Then you say in Sanskrit. Then you say, “Om Swaha.” [Hundred and Eight Names of Vishnu is chanted.] Shri Mataji: Now I would say that whatever badhas you have to say, you better say it. Sahaja yogi: I say it in English, Shri Mataji, against all the badhas, all the false gurus who prevent the seekers from coming. Shri Read More …

When you become the spirit, actualization takes place Geneva (Switzerland)

Public Program Day 3, Geneva, Switzerland, 31.08.1983 I Bow to all the seekers of Truth Within us lies the truth, it is said in all the scriptures, where does it lie? Nobody has told so far exactly where it lies. You must have realized from Armour’s lecture that he is Swiss, and he has become such an expert on Kundalini Yoga. There are many young people, very young, who come to Sahaja Yoga, and within a month, they can speak on truth. It is the actualization of the truth that is important. It is the becoming that is important. It is not reading or knowing it from outside, but becoming one with the truth. Whatever we can see outside, is outside us, but when we become that it acts. It shows its power. But so far in the human endeavor, there is nothing that can really give analogy of actualization. For example, somebody becomes the president, still he can lose his job. He may manifest his powers which are bestowed upon him, but he may be wrong. He may make mistakes. He may do exactly what he is not supposed to do. He would not know absolute truth. But when you become the spirit, actualization takes place. As I told you the other day, it is not branding yourself that you are twice born, that you are a realized soul, that you are a very religious person or a righteous person, but you become. It is the becoming. For example, Read More …

Talk to New Sahaja Yogis: Now you are not there where you were Tannay (Switzerland)

1983-08-31 Talk to New Sahaja Yogis TRNSCRIPT INCOMPLETE [27:57] And once you have found the lamp and have lightened it then you don’t have to use a lamp to see that, do you?  That lamp itself gives light.  So this must be understood logically that now you are not there where you were.  That you are at a different level and accept all the transformations as reality.  And don’t live in the past or in your imagination.  As I have told many a times a that supposing a beggar is made a king, now he is sitting on a throne, he sees everybody is coming and bending before him bowing to him.  Bowing…But he being beggar in the mind puts his hand out and says can you give me some money.  So the situation is like this.  So the…so when I see people having miserable looks on their face I think the same beggar is coming back.  So sometimes it peeps in.  So you now say that now I know you are not there.  Now better go away.  So one of the responsibilities you have is to establish yourself fully in sahaja yoga with complete dedication, understanding, knowing what is to be done. But the problem I have seen is that as soon as you become something like that you start telling others, “You are catching there, you are like this.  Mother has sent me specially to do this work.  I am someone. I am special, this, that.  But if Read More …

The roots of human beings Geneva (Switzerland)

Public Program Day 2. Geneva (Switzerland), 30 August 1983. I bow to all the seekers of truth. Yesterday we saw the general aspect of Sahaja Yoga and how these modern times are connected to the future and to the past. Because if it is a living process of evolution then it is a continuous process intermittent with transformations. But we human beings believe that whatever we achieve through our mental projection is the transformation. For example, when we started to establish our kingdoms, we thought that monarchy will solve the problem and we adhered to it very much. Later on, we thought it’s better to have democracy, or some people thought we should have communism. Some people thought that Christianity would work out. Others thought that Islam might work out. Some thought it was Buddhism that is going to help us and some thought it is some other religion will help us, like Jainism or Zen. Now, if you really see all these human endeavors from a detached mind, you will find that there is something missing in them. There are psychologists who said that it is the sex energy which is important and we should not be conditioned. So, they used their ego to express themselves without any conditioning. And the others who believed that it is the will power that is important and you must develop your will power. But one should know that truth cannot be two. It has to be absolute. And the point at which Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis Geneva (Switzerland)

Talk to Sahaja Yogis during Entertainment Programme, 30 August 1983, Geneva, Switzerland [Beginning is missing]Shri Mataji: Tannay, is the holy land [in Sanskrit].Gregoire: [Translates in French: I’m speaking to all the Sahaja Yogis who have met in this beautiful place of Tannay, which in Sanskrit means the place, the square, the holy place.]Shri Mataji: The roads –Marie: Mother, actually this place is called “Holy Land” also in French.Shri Mataji: That’s what I am saying. It’s a fact. And the street which has cool breeze [chemin du Joran], is such an expression of the Unconscious as to what we are going to do in this place. Even when you get your Realisation, you are still sometimes in a growing stage up to a point. Like you are nourished by the Mother Earth all the time but you are not aware of it. In the same way, the womb of Sahaja Yoga nourishes you to grow up into beautiful beings. Still, you have to come up to a point, when it has to click in such a way that you start feeling the awareness of that abounding love. In the small children, it clicks very fast because they are so innocent and uncomplicated. And in some people also I have seen it clicks very fast as soon as they get their Realisation. But in some people, they have some more ego trips left to be finished. So, they come to me. I find they are flying in the air like bubbles. And Read More …

Human consciousness is a product of a living process Geneva (Switzerland)

Public Program Day 1, 29 August 1983, Geneva, Switzerland I bow to all the seekers of truth. Every moment has got a past and a future. Everything has got a history and a future that is going to follow. Today we are here at this moment and we have to look at every problem in relation to this time. The understanding of consciousness has to be understood in all its aspect, and at this period of complete integration it is easy to relate it to every movement of our mind. The evolutionary process has created a human consciousness within us, and this human consciousness is a product of a living process, and a living process is to be understood in its own nature. I was very happy to see the picture of these trees on these flags, because they denote or express the living process. To understand the living process we can look at the trees. A seed sprouts into a plant by a living process. If we want to do it, we cannot do it. The leaves burst out into flowers later, and the flowers become the fruits because of the living force that is acting in it. We human beings cannot do anything like that. We can’t even produce one living leaf, but we take everything for granted, as we are taking our human consciousness also for granted, but the living process, whatever it does, is spontaneous and cannot be done by us, the human beings who are Read More …

Shri Krishna Puja: The Ultimate Of The Fatherhood Tannay Ashram, Tannay (Switzerland)

Shri Krishna Puja, Tannay (Switzerland), 28 August 1983. Today we are celebrating here, in this holy land the birthday of Shri Krishna. Shri Krishna is the ultimate of the fatherhood that I described you before, who came on this Earth and illustrated the ultimate of that. So, on this Earth, the highest fatherhood is Shri Krishna’s awareness. But in the Kingdom of God, we can say in the Heavens, or even above everything else, resides Sadashiva who does not take incarnations. He is one of the aspects, Shri Krishna is one of the aspects of Sadashiva which is the Father. And the Adi Shakti or the Holy Ghost is the other aspect of Sadashiva which is His power. So, when Shri Krishna incarnated on this Earth, an aspect of this Adi Shakti came on this Earth as Radha. She is the same who came as the Mother of Christ, and She gave the name of Christ as the surname of Shri Krishna, as if it is Krishna’s name, from Krishna. He’s called as “Krisht” in Indian languages, Krisht.  And I have told you before why he was called as Yeshu or Jesu. So, today we are going to see to the two aspects of Shri Krishna, which were the manifestation of His divine birth. In Rama’s life they showed a man; a Purushottama, the best of the father in worldly affairs. And in Shri Krishna’s life they showed Him the highest fatherhood as in Yogeshwara or in divine work. So, Read More …

Talk and Singing Tannay (Switzerland)

27 August 1983, Talk and Singing, Tannay, Switzerland [Unclear] How are you?  Are you back again?  You are all right?  Happy now. [To a child] It is a very good speech I gave yesterday.  You must all hear it. [Sahaja Yogi speaking]  Last night?  In the evening?  After the lecture.  Ah yes, beautiful. All of you were there, or not? [Sahaja Yogi speaking]  Yes!  [unclear] How is Markandeya, is he all right?  Athena, how are you, you are all right? The people came today from Lausanne.  They got their realisation.  There was a lady and she touched Me, and she got a shock, twice.  Like an electrical shock.  Because there was black magic on her.  And she told her husband had done black magic on her. She was really frightened.  There was yesterday one lady who came, she was very difficult, she never came today. You were working on her. [Sahaha Yogi speaking]  She could not come today, she was working, Mother.  She might be coming to Geneva.  Yes. What was wrong with her?  What chakras were catching? [Sahaja Yogi speaking]  The Agyna.  She was thinking so much.  She was left alone with two children by her husband, so she had a hard time to forgive him. She was with two children, left by her husband? [Sahaja Yogi speaking]  And now the financial situation is not good, so she felt depressed.  But here the government pays for them, isn’t it? [Sahaja Yogi speaking] But no, I don’t think so. No.  Read More …

God’s Love Part 2 Lausanne (Switzerland)

God’s Love Part 2, Lausanne, Switzerland, 1983-08-26 Shri Mataji: Yesterday we started talking about God’s Love. How He has worked within us. We see all this great universe created; beautiful, around us. Out of that, the special thing that He created is this Mother Earth. She nourishes us and She has given us the power to be a human being. In result, what have we done to God? What have we given Him in return? Even to our Mother Earth, what have we given? We have exhausted Her completely. She is fed up with human beings. Now, if you see any modern world, you will find people are so confused. I went to South America and people asked Me a question, “What has Christ done for us? We become so poor after following Him for so many years ardently. Now is He going to crucify us?” Perhaps we are not aware, sitting down here – that in every corner of the world, we have tried to ruin the image of God. We are not even aware as to how He has given us so many blessings. As I told you yesterday, that in the realm of consciousness, we have to rise higher to understand God. And so far, all our development has been extrovert, outside. We have been growing outside. Without any limitations, without any understanding, without any coordination with the whole. Which I call the masculine development. That development was very important. To make the complete consciousness ready to Read More …

God’s Love Part 1 Lausanne (Switzerland)

Public Program Day 1   25.8.1983 Shri Mataji: You want to speak through… It’s rather hot. Sahaja Yogini: Should I come to the other side? Shri Mataji: I think so. Better be here. [Yogini translates into Italian or French] I bow to all the seekers of Truth. I have to ask for your attention, to the understanding that so far whatever we have been doing, whatever we have achieved, whatever we think is the development, thinking the whole world as one, we have gone away, deviated from our goal. Now when I have chance of meeting people, I find they even are against God Almighty. Some people who are not so much blessed in life think that it is the fault of God, and some people, who are really blessed, have forgotten Him completely. Today I am going to talk to you about His Love, what He has done for us. Sahaja Yoga is the blessing of God Almighty, specially meant for people who are seeking something higher, something nobler, something greater than they have had so far. This opportunity is available to everyone, whether you are rich or poor, educated, uneducated, developed, underdeveloped. Everyone has the chance. He has made it possible that people who are really seeking, because you have to knock at the door, will be blessed with something so great that it will fulfil all that is incomplete within them. So, all that is incomplete will be fulfilled. That all the problems of this relative world Read More …

Radio Interview Geneva (Switzerland)

Shri Mataji: [? but] important that we still linger on with other trips, like [? ego trips)]. So if somebody talks big we believe him. These people are money-oriented and they have lots of money and they can put in advertisements and we get impressed by [unclear]. Recently, to My surprise, I discovered that in England they have something called “chequebook journalism”.  Sahaja Yogi (to Swiss translator): It means that the journalist – I don’t know if it’s true – that there is payment made to journalists for reporting according to what they personally want.  Shri Mataji: That’s the phrase they use, chequebook journalism.  Swiss translator (to Shri Mataji): He (a man speaking French) asks – in Geneva it is the first time that he saw such a publicity for a personality like You. All the advertisements, papers in the [letterbox] and very big posters all over the place, and he said: “This cost lots of money.”  Shri Mataji: No, it did not. What happened [was] that we did not pay to anyone. Luckily, the authorities allowed us to quickly [unclear]. But we didn’t give anybody under the table any money.  Sahaja Yogi: Printing costs [unclear]. Shri Mataji: Also there are so many Sahaja Yogis all over the world, for example these people from Australia were sending some posters for America.  But I will tell you about how the gurus work. You see what they do, they [? get to] some journalist, give them a large amount of money, to Read More …

Radio 74 Interview Geneva (Switzerland)

1983-08-24 Radio 74 Interview (Geneva) Part 1 and 2. Lady interviewer:  Could you join me now in a very cordial and very special welcome to Shri Mataji.  A great welcome to You. Shri Mataji:  Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Lady interviewer:  In the.. in the country of India, I know that there is much talk of… the word ‘enlightenment’ is used in a way that perhaps we of this world don’t fully understand.   Would that be a place to start, that You talk to us a little bit about enlightenment and then go into Your own message? Shri Mataji:  Yes.  India has a special advantage over many other countries, as far as the nature is concerned, because the nature of our country is such that people don’t have to worry so much of combating the nature.  It’s warm country, and it has… it’s a very fertile country and it doesn’t require too much for you to exist in that place.  You can even exist under a tree.  It’s a …you can lead a very, very simple life in India and you need not have all the [elaborations] we  need here to fight the nature.  As a result of that, many people who were quite satisfied with their mundane lives took to deeper seeking – thousands of years back – in that country, where they wanted to find out the secrets of life, and they wanted to know why we are on this earth and why we Read More …

Raksha bandhan Ceremony Tannay Ashram, Tannay (Switzerland)

Rakshabandhan Ceremony. Tannay (Switzerland), 23 August 1983. I said: ‘No we have to put it down that’s all.’ He said: “How do you do Mother?’ I said: ‘Very simple, put three times left to the right.’ And I put it aside one, two, three. And then he started seeing you know, storm clouds and big formations. And so we arrive here with the rain, running out in the rain, and very cool temperature. All wet. But the thing is, Nature is easy to control…Human beings are difficult. Do you want to wash my feet? Water first, little water…(inaudible) So today is a very great day, when I arrive here, is the day of Guru – today is the Purnima, is the full moon day, the day when the brother is tied with that (bandhan?) Let me show them. So I brought for you all. Tied in the hands of brother, by a sister, for the protection of the brother. And we have a very nice story about it. When Alexander the Great invaded our country, he married an Indian lady, and after certain wars he was arrested by a King called Kuru in Punjab and his wife got desperate. So she sent one rakhi like this in a plate(?) like that with the cover in a pot. Now when he – that was the day of Rakshabandhan – so, what they did, he lifted the cover and saw a rakhi, which was presented to him. And on that day you Read More …

Radio Suisse, Romande II Lausanne (Switzerland)

[Radio Interviewer speaking in French.] Shri Mataji: It is with every religion. [Yes], all of them. But not the believers; the people who originated the religion are the real people, but the believers diverted. [Translation and question in French] Shri Mataji: As I said, I won’t like to limit Myself as anything or describe Myself as anything. It is for you people to find out what I am. [French] Shri Mataji: Jesus Christ is a great incarnation of God’s power of love. [French] Shri Mataji: Because truth is one… [French] Shri Mataji: It’s described that the Holy Spirit has the cool breeze. [French] Shri Mataji: The experience that they talk of is from St. Paul. [French] Shri Mataji: The experience of the power of the Holy Spirit has to be a living power. [French] Shri Mataji: Now this technique is called as ‘Sahaja Yoga’. [French] [missing part] Shri Mataji: Means it is spontaneous. [French] Shri Mataji: Now, first of all let us see the collectivity of it. [French] Shri Mataji: They call Me Mother. [French] Shri Mataji: That’s what I am coming to. [French] Shri Mataji: And that possibility is given in all the religions and described in all the religions. [French] Note This seems to be not a radio interview with Shri Mataji, but a radio interview with Sahaja Yogis (in French) which has some sentences by Shri Mataji (in English). Most of the interview consists of the yogis speaking French, with only a few sentences by Shri Mataji.

Kundalini: a living force within us and the living happening of the living God Lausanne (Switzerland)

Public Program day 2 (French translation). Lausanne (Switzerland), 27 August 1982. I would like to beg your pardon for being late but I have a double shift: I have to works there also, finish that work, come here and that’s how sometimes, going from one to another, it takes some more time. I’m sorry for that. As I said that this is a living force within us and the living happening of the living God. As you know that living things do not have a precise time. For example, if somebody says, “Mother, I come to you tomorrow, I’ll see you there. Will you give me Realization?” I can only say, “I will try. But I can’t promise.” Moreover, I cannot say how much it will take. It is true it’s blossom time and we have many people who are just ready to become the Spirit. Still, it is not easy to say how and when all of these flowers will be completely realized. To get Realization is not so difficult because you are just ready for it. But to establish it, it is sort of difficult because we have lots of problems within ourselves, in our chakras, our subtle centres. Some are fanatics, some don’t believe in God; some are very ego-orientated, dry people and some are extremely emotional, sensitive and all the time sad. There are so many permutations and combinations in the human beings that though at the very outset the Kundalini rises and pierces through the Read More …

Conversation, The Sects Lausanne (Switzerland)

The beginning of the talk is not on the tape “Sahaja yogi : …[…feel they are sent by France]Shri Mataji: Now another [Christian country], Switzerland. Now England are the people who dominated all over the world. Went up to China and see, who are they to get out of their place?They went everywhere; in India they stayed for three hundred years. And now they don’t allow Indians to stay even for three months! And openly they are racists! These are Christians! Look at the French, the great Christ-ians of France! Christ has said : “Thou shallt not have adulterous eyes.” Every third lamppost you meet a prostitute in that country, and every seventh lamppost you see a pub there! They are Christians: no morality, and no respect for themselves, self and body, such indecent people! These are Christians.Then Germans, when they fought, they killed so many people, they were still believing in Christ and God, and they said we are killing the Jews because they didn’t believe in Christ. Now Jews are killing the Arabs because they don’t believe in Jews. [Laugh]This is just madness, I mean, just think of Christ what would he think of the people who are supposed to be Christians? We must face ourselves and see that we have to do a lot, if we have to really make Christ live within us.Shri Mataji : Alright, that’s alright,Sahaja yogi : Bolo Shri Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi ki,Sahaja yogis : Jai!Shri Mataji : It was a nice Read More …

History of Spiritual Seeking Lausanne (Switzerland)

Public Program. Lausanne (Switzerland), 26 August 1982. I bow to all the seekers of truth and love. There has been a great talk about truth, love and bliss so far in the history of spirituality of human beings. But it is so surprising for an outsider to see that all these religions have been separated from each other and it is impossible for them to find any common points between themselves.If truth is one, God is one and love is the same thing, why there are so many religions and so many wars in the name of God? The more human beings are developing in their intelligence, they look back upon the history of religions and they get a fright from the way people have behaved towards each other. Even the science, which has no connection with God or religion, has gone to a limit where we have created devils of bombs, which are atomic bombs, hydrogen bomb, nitrogen bomb. Yesterday we had a very important gentleman from the disarmament organization of the U.N. and they said, “It’s all absurd because already there are five thousand types of bombs which are being created. We have to just press a button in one of these countries and the whole world can collapse into nothing.” Under these circumstances, we are born at the present time.If we try to close our eyes to the fact that all these movements of human beings whether on the religious basis or on the scientific basis or Read More …

Love is the Solution Temple de la Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland)

Public Program in Geneva (Switzerland), 25 August 1982. Shri Mataji: When the Spirit manifests within us, then this joy becomes active within us. First of all, our maladies disappear. Because our Spirit is the source of the white cells. Or we can say, is the connection between human attention and the Divine Power. When the connection is loose, the vibrations become a little difficult – sometimes they appear, they disappear – till the person establishes himself.  The first thing that happens to human beings when your Kundalini is raised to this stage (the Agnya), is that you become peaceful and the thoughts that are bombarding your brain disappear. Now, if you want to think, you can think or you need not think. There is complete rest and peace in your mind. So when the Kundalini comes out of your head and starts flowing regularly after establishment, you can give realisations to others.  Those who got realisations yesterday were today giving realisation to people in Geneva. One little girl wanted to test a gentleman who had been doing some sort of black magic. Suddenly her thumb started becoming (hot). And she showed Me, “Mother, the thumb is trembling”. This thumb indicates authorised, unauthorised working of the mind. All those people who preach, gospel or talk of God without getting realisation have this left Swadishthana.  This forehead is not to be bowed to anybody else but to an incarnation. And those who bow this head to a person who is not an Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis: Western Woman Bianca's House, Versoix (Switzerland)

1982-0825 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Western Women, Bianca’ House, Versoix, Switzerland Gruhalakshmi hee?Sahaja Yogini:Shri. Mataji.:Sahaja Yogini:Shri. Mataji.: I might say the camera is great.Sahaja Yogi: [Laughter].Shri. Mataji.: [Laughs.] Or the cameraSahaja Yogi:Shri. Mataji.:Sahaja Yogi:Shri. Mataji.: Now, this is in the West.Sahaja Yogi: I know.Shri. Mataji.: Now, the people, the women are intelligent and the women of the West being intelligent and educated have developed a kind of a very complex situation around themselves.Sahaja Yogi: Ya. They also can earn money, Mother.Shri. Mataji.: Yes, and they also handle their own money. These things have made them a kind of a man without manliness, and that is why their whole behavior becomes extremely odd. Sometimes I just don’t understand, but now I’ve started understanding, that the way the women are, they want to dominate men. But they don’t understand that by dominating you cannot create good relationship.Now, to dominate a man one way could be just to go on behaving like a man, you see, pushing him around and all that, saying, “Don’t do this. I don’t like it. This is not good. That is not good.” But that is not so sophisticated. So, the other way is to all the time talk about the miseries of your past. “I am like this. This is wrong with me.” All the time she’s sick. All the time she’s miserable. All the time she’s insecure. All the time she’s so dependent, she needs her husband. She wants the attention of the husband. The husband Read More …

When Christ Will Come (Follow-up) Temple de la Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland)

Public Program Day 3 follow up, Temple de la Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland) 25-08-1982 Shri Mataji: I am told that some of you have come for the first time for the program here. Now, for the people who have come  for the first time, they have to first get their Realisation. That is very important. Now, today I am feeling the atmosphere, today, I think some of you have come from places, who have been to people who are doing black magic maybe or some sort of a thing like that, or ESP or psychology, or to some false gurus. Some of you. And also that there are people who are feeling guilty. If you are feeling guilty, then there is catch on this finger [showing Vishuddhi finger]. But, if you are catching from people who have been to black magic and fake gurus and all that, then you catch on this finger and this thumb. [showing fingers of left Agnya and left Swadishthan]. Also, I think there are people who are already feeling the vibrations. So we have people of all types. I am happy you have brought your children. Because I am very happy with the children. There are many children born, who are realised souls. And they don’t understand human beings who do not have that level. And that’s a big problem. Moreover when these children grow up, they take to new seeking, in which they fall a trap to drugs or false gurus, or some sort of Read More …

When Christ Will Come Temple de la Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland)

Public Program Day 2,  “When Christ Will Come”, Temple de la Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland), 24 August 1982 Again, I bow today to the seekers of truth. From the very beginning, I have to say, that I would like to address to all those who are really seeking the truth. I am not going just to read something to you and give My own interpretation about it. All of you have got sufficient intelligence to read any book you like and to have your own interpretation. We have so many interpretations of the Holy Bible, that it is amazing, how people, do not understand, that when they have their own interpretation, it could be wrong. For example, our great leader in our country, Mahatma Gandhi, was once asked by a Christian to become a Christian. He said, “Why don’t you become officially a Christian?” And he laughed aloud and he said, “I would like to, but, please, tell me what should I become, should be a Catholic or a Protestant or I should to be another sect of Protestants”. Especially, the Protestants have so many sects, like Pentecostals. They have got Seventh Day Adventists. They have got Methodists. They have another one – what is that called as, Penta – I mean, so many like that. So he asked, “Which one should I join?” If you tell me exactly which one to join, I would like to join. And he had no answer to it. So, there is some sort of a gap Read More …

The function of the liver Temple de la Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland)

Public Program, Day 2 (morning) , Geneva, Switzerland, 24-08-1982 So today we have to find out people who came yesterday and felt the cool breeze. New people who came yesterday and felt the cool breeze, please raise your hands. Now all the others, inclusive of you, please put your hands again [UNCLEAR]. Now also see, looking at Me, if you can become thoughtless. If not, you have to say – Mother, I forgive everyone – that’s [UNCLEAR]. Say it from your heart. Are you thoughtless now? Those who are not, just close your eyes. Now see on your head if there’s cool breeze coming. If there is a hot breeze coming, if there is heat coming out of your head, then you must know that there is some obstruction within you. You must again say – Mother, I forgive everyone – because you know Christ has given us this weapon. You should go and say – Mother, I forgive everyone, forgive everyone. Whatever is said, is absolute truth, but we must know the subtle side of Christ, otherwise, we never [UNCLEAR/understand Him] if we just read something about Him.   Is it cooler now? Or still hot? If it is hot, then put your left hand on the liver. Put your right hand towards Me and the left hand on the liver. [Pointing to somebody – Other way round]. Look at me, right hand towards Me and left hand on the liver.  Translator – Everybody or only those who feel the Read More …

Lunch and Public Program Temple de la Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland)

Public Program Day 1. Temple Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland), 23 August 1982. I bow to all the seekers of truth. It is such a great fortune that I should be given this opportunity to face so many seekers of truth in this international city of Geneva. There has been never such times, such great times, where you have seekers who were just trying to find out the truth, the self-knowledge, the Spirit, and were not satisfied with anything else. This seeking that has come today is so much exposed and manifesting. It is the work of thousands of years of the seers and prophets. In this materialistic advancement, when we have gone too far, the Tree of Life has grown too much and it must find its source to sustain itself. With this background, we are here today to know about the truth that we have to find within ourselves. All the scriptures, whether it is Bible, Koran, or any Indian scripture, even Lao Tse or if we go to Zen or Buddha, Mahavira, all of them have said that you are to be reborn. Those who have talked about the rebirth, traditionally, I think in India people have really worked very deeply, in meditative way, to find out what are we to find. The existence of this primordial power within ourselves – called as Kundalini, in the triangular bone – was known to ancient seers for thousands of years. This is not a new knowledge which I am telling you Read More …

Shri Ganesha Puja: Innocence & Joy House of Charles and Magda Mathys, Troinex (Switzerland)

Shri Ganesha Puja. Troinex, (Geneva, Switzerland), 22 August 1982. Before the Talk: Call them, call the people. You can move in front and can sit at the back. Gregoire asks if there should be an explanation of Puja as there are some newcomers. Shri Mataji: Is there somebody here who can translate? You need two persons. You can sit here. Gregoire: I can also translate in Italian Shri Mataji: But has he not come? He should come for the puja, you know.Everybody should come in. When they are all here, then I will start. Now, come forward. There’s room here. Those who can sit on the ground can sit in front. Please come. (Mother aside to yogini) You like it? Colour is all right?Where is, who else will translate?All right, you can come. You do it in French and she can do it in Italian. Arnaut has not come?You are there. Who else?The children can sit in front – let the children sit in front. All the four children could come later on, when you start the puja.Has everybody come? Ah! Robotic motor-cars! Great!… Exactly, that’s what it is! Who is outside? [Here starts the transcript of the talk] All right. First, I would like to tell you about the meaning of Puja. There are two aspects. (5.02) One is the aspect that you have got your own deities within yourself. And these deities are to be awakened within you. Deities are the different aspects of one God. So, on Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis: Christianity House of Matthias, Geneva (Switzerland)

Talk to Sahaja Yogis about Christianity, Mathias’ House, Switzerland, 1982-08-21 But if you look at the crualty [Unclear] You should see the vibrations. Just tremendous vibrations! You know, I’ve seen [unclear]. In the end, there were two persons standing, and one of them was a pastor who was standing, was he?Sahaja Yogini: Yes. There was somebody standing, towards the end.Shri Mataji: Who was wearing a blue suits.Sahaja Yogi: Yes.

Talk to Sahaja Yogis: On Investments House of Matthias, Geneva (Switzerland)

Conversation at Matthias’ apartment, Geneva, 1982-08-21 Shri Mataji: Very powerful. But for this incident and this church, I would never have said all these things. [unclear] But it cannot [unclear] vibrations. Sahaja Yogi: It’s quite powerful! [Laughter] Gregoire: Magda told me that she heard somebody going out saying, “I admire this person for the courage with which She is speaking.” That to speak like that about Swiss bank in the country of Europe. [Laughter] [Applause] Shri Mataji: In India all the ministers, even our Prime minister who has made this kind of money have put it in this bank of yours. They must know that they are helping the thugs. It’s a fact. What can you do? I mean, if there is a bank to keep their money, they will have. Sahaja Yogi: Actually, Mother the whole economy, very much the economy of Geneva is based on that because these people, they travel frequently to Geneva and they stay in hotels, they bring the family. The restaurants make money, and the hotel makes money. It’s very much all linked to the prosperity of this city. Shri Mataji: Very much. Sahaja Yogi: I remember customers of ours, with whom we worked, who also have black money here. When they come here for [unclear] they come for the bank. Not that much to meet, to come to our company but for the banks. Shri Mataji: You see, anybody who has white money will never put in the bank, I can tell you Read More …

Kundalini – germinating force within Zurich (Switzerland)

Public Program (with German translation). Zürich (Switzerland), 21 August 1981. Shri Mataji: First of all, I must really apologise for being so late. There was some confusion about time and I hope you all forgive Me. I am really encouraged to see that there are seekers in this country and they are trying to seek something beyond. I could not think of any country where there could not be seekers.  Because when [UNCLEAR] they see around, I am sure any intelligent man who thinks must be wondering, asking, “What is next?” [Translator requests to repeat]. I’m saying that in any country I could never believe that, people would be satisfied with what they have and they would not be seeking beyond. Because seeking is the process of your evolution. Through seeking you have achieved this state, human state. And even now you do not know the meaning of your life, at this stage, neither the purpose. So, one has to think: “Why are we here? Why were we made human beings? What was the purpose of the nature? Was that just to earn little money or little material comfort and done?”  And a question must be asked within: are you satisfied? Are you happy? And once we ask this question to ourselves, we can find out we are not! We have not found out the purpose of our life. Actually, we don’t know anything about ourself. We may know about  moon – now they are going to Saturn and all Read More …

Shri Ganesha Puja: Innocence within us must be first of all invoked Zurich (Switzerland)

Shri Ganesha Puja. Zurich (Switzerland), 12 October 1980. You have to see that all the negativity goes away, around us, around the universe. So first we sing the praise of the Goddess; when She destroyed a very negative, satanic incarnation of Mahishasura. And when he was killed, all the gods praised Her for saving them from the destruction, and that happened long, long time back – about ten thousand years back. So this is the praise of the Gods of that so that, whatever is the negativity, through those mantras it  will go away, because it surrounds us – you see that, all of them have been there coming; from ten thousand years they have been coming. But this is the way you can throw them out of the present into their proper places. All right? So, listen to it – it’s now in French luckily. Sahaja Yogi (Gregoire): It’s in French, it doesn’t matter, Mother? Shri Mataji: No, Sanskrit is not there? Gregoire: Sanskrit is there, but it is … Shri Mataji: You just read it in French, is all right. (Reading of a description of the Gods praising the Goddess in French, followed by lots of background noise as they prepare the Ganesha Puja. All recite, “Jai Ganesha, Jai Ganesha, Jai Ganesha pahimam, Shri Ganesha, Jai Ganesha, Jai Ganesha rakshamam.” Shri Mataji: Now, what you are doing by saying these mantras, you are awakening the innocence within you; innocence is represented by Shri Ganesh. As you know, later on Read More …

What is the technique of a flower becoming a fruit? Zurich (Switzerland)

   Public Program in Zurich (Switzerland), 10 October 1980. Talk , PP in Zurich:  …and it is such a living process that [missing part]. [I tell you] there’s no technique. That means you cannot follow any technique. What is the technique of a flower becoming a fruit? When I see people standing on their heads or jumping or doing all kinds of things to seek God, I really think they are still very children, small children. They are still very naive. They should know, that if we have become a human being from amoeba without doing anything, whatever you have to become, you will become. That has to be done. That’s the problem of God and not of yours. It has to be done; otherwise He will have no meaning. The creation will have no meaning if you do not have any meaning. Because if you are on the top of the creation, then something has to happen to you, by which you should know. What is this power that has created you and what is this power which is guiding you? By what power have you become a human being and by what power you are going to become a higher being ? About these things whatever I am talking to you, like a scientist, you must keep your mind very open and not to close your mind in the sense that I put a hypothesis before you. When I put a hypothesis before you it is necessary to see Read More …

Get transformed Lausanne (Switzerland)

Public Programme. Lausanne (Switzerland), 5 October 1980. Get transformed You have to translate… You are all here to seek the truth, you are all the seekers of truth. But what is truth? For the truth to an ant is different from the truth to a human being! The way your consciousness expands, the truth reveals itself to you. Whatever we know through our sense organs we call it as truth, but the sense organs also develop gradually as we evolve to human level. We have done nothing to achieve our sensitivity as human being. It has happened absolutely spontaneously within us! But we think for growing higher in our consciousness we have to do something about it. But if you see that human beings have come out of amoeba without any effort, and if you understand that the effortlessness is the only way you have achieved this state, we have to accept that effort is not necessary.  “Sahaja”, as Gregoire has told you, means “spontaneous” – like a seed: it sprouts by itself and becomes a tree. In the same way we started like a seed and today we are at a human stage. But some human beings even think that by paying money you can improve in your consciousness. Because of this mythical idea there are many enterprises floating and they call themselves people who are going to give you some higher life if you pay them so much, so much.  You cannot pay for your Self-Realisation: it is Read More …

The Last Judgment has started Geneva (Switzerland)

Geneva 2.10.80 The Last Judgement Sahaja Yogi: Mother I would not try to talk to You. May I ask You… Shri Mataji: They were very interested in your talk, [you know] [unclear]. Sahaja Yogi: I think I’ll carry on with translating. Shri Mataji: He spoke very well because you were so much interested; I could see that. Sahaja Yogi: I’m not translating this. Shri Mataji: And you could see from his heart, he feels so much for Switzerland… [French] Shri Mataji: I would say he is a real Swiss. He feels such concern about his fellow-being. Shri Mataji: We are all the seekers of truth. Today there is a big urge to seek the truth, because the Last Judgment has started. There were never so many seekers before. Very few used to seek and extremely few used to receive. But the blossom time has come and so many of them have to become the fruits. That is the plan of God Almighty. We have to see how Switzerland faces it. When we are seeking the truth we must know what we are and what we have to seek. The first premises must be that we are not yet there, where we should be. There is something missing. Now in a country like Switzerland where there is so much of affluence and people are very settled, still one finds that such a great rate of suicide exists in this country. Now every country has its own problems, but in that problem  Read More …

Within yourself there is a seeking of the beyond Zurich (Switzerland)

Public Program in Zurich (Switzerland), 29 September 1980. [introduction] Gregoire: I would like to introduce very quickly Sahajayoga and Mataji. It is beautiful thing to do, it is not an easy one to introduce Sahajayoga. It is not an easy one because there are many, many propositions in the sale of spirituality, which are running in the market, hence Switzerland is a very unfortunate country, very unfortunate, because Switzerland is rich country. Being a rich country all the people who have been attracted by money had come down here. We have gone with Sahaja Yoga in countries like Portugal and Spain and there we have noticed that many hundreds of people got their self-realisation without any problem. One of the reasons was that none of these people had been exposed to any of the false prophets, which today occult gurus. In Switzerland it’s very different because most of the fake gurus have taken the head quarters in Switzerland. So first of all at the level of cybernation, at the level of energy, there is a lot of negativity and whenever people come they have a lot of problems. So we should be, may be proud that our trains are running on time, very happy that this itself, we should, however may be aware that there are other problems that they are very much there in our shoulders in this country. This is one reason for which that there are so few people here, whereas everywhere else there are many hundreds Read More …

Opening the heart Zurich (Switzerland)

Public programme Zurich 1.5.80  Opening the heart. Happy to see so many of you have been able to come to this programme of Sahaja Yoga. I am also very much thankful to Kalbermatten family, especially Gregoire and his brother, particularly Arneau who insisted that I must come to Zurich and talk about Sahaja Yoga. We are really blessed by nature today. I went and saw your beautiful lake and the beautiful scenes in the sunshine, the way everybody was bathing and enjoying. Today, I am going to speak to you about something very subtle within you. Many German writers have written about the power, which sleeps within us to give us Self-realization, known as Kundalini. Unfortunately, none of them had the experience of Self-realization. So, the description falls very much short of the reality. If you have read any one of these books, you will think that Kundalini awakening is the most difficult thing. When we told our grandmother, that human beings have landed on the Moon, she could not believe it. As we have grown outside so much, also there has been an inner growth within us. Think at the time of Christ, the way people crucified Him; you can’t do that to me now. He had twelve fishermen with whom He had to talk about Kundalini. It was impossible even to talk about divine power to them. But today, at this time, I am facing intelligent people who will understand what I am going to tell them. Till Read More …

The Blossom Time Zurich (Switzerland)

Public Program (German translation). Zurich (Switzerland), 30 April 1980. I’m grateful to this gentleman who is standing before you, Mr Arneau, to organise this program, especially in Zurich. It was so remarkable to find out that the five main cities of Switzerland have got five very great Sahaja Yogis (Laughter) and they have asked me to come to Switzerland and this is the first time I’m in this country for this work. While all the other fake ones have been here to settle their bank accounts before Me (Laughing) but I have come in this country to find out which are the banks of spirituality, how many human beings there are who are really interested in the spiritual life. In My lifetime I have seen many rich people and also I’m told this country is very much blessed by them. For example, a  palace of a king may be very precious to human beings but a small little worm which is more aware than the palace is more precious to God. So the value system is very different in these two areas and till we understand the value of God and His working we cannot understand our innate nature. Today I’m going to talk to you about something very, very subtle which is beyond all your gross computers. We have another computer within ourselves which is very subtle in nature and unless and until we understand it we cannot use it. It is every time acting within us and decides for Read More …

Pure Intelligence Geneva (Switzerland)

Pure Intelligence, Public Program, 1980-04-29, Genève, Switzerland “(…) Even by blindly accepting it you have not been able to solve your problems. If we could put our attention to this question that there must be some meaning to us and that there must be some arrangement within us to manifest that meaning: you are with Me. It is very easy to deny and defy everything intellectually and intelligence gives you a capacity to cheat yourself all the time. Not only that: a capacity to avoid if you are facing the Truth. It can provide any argument – which may be absurd if you see it later on – to convince you that reality is this, what you see with your gross attention. But the pure intelligence is that which sees the game of this intellect and that which sees the limited function of rationality. I am here talking to you about unlimited space. I am going to put forward before you a hypothesis, which, as good scientists or intelligent people you must keep your mind open and try to absorb it. If it is proved then you have to accept. There lies the real bravery of intellect. If intellect teaches you cowardice it is not intellect. So I have to put forward before you: what is within us, which resides as our subtle being? First of all, let us understand that we are made something like a spacecraft. You can also see how a seed sprouts: that from a seed the Read More …

Sahaja Yoga the force within Hotel de la Paix, Lausanne (Switzerland)

Public Program. Lausanne (Switzerland), 27 April 1980.  [un-transcribed Q&A section]  Sorry, I do not know how to speak in French language. But Christine knows both the languages very well and I’m sure, she’ll be able to translate what I say very well. (Laughs…) Very shy, alright…I’m thankful to Grégoire for organising this program, and for the nice introductory lecture he gave. I think I could not follow the whole of it, but quiet [quite] a lot I could understand what he is saying.  I admire his bravery. I wish they [there] were such brave people at the time of Christ. But I am the only lucky person I think who has got such brave people around, who are not afraid to give the message of the truth. People don’t like the truth at all. We are so identified with our ignorance that anybody tries to tell something else, we just defy it. But that is the source of joy. That is the source of bliss. In ignorance we live in confusion and in turbulence of our emotions. When we face truth, and achieve it, and become it, then it becomes a beautiful blossoming for us.  The fear comes to us through our conditioning within us. We have been told many things which never came true. And sometimes the denial comes to us because we are very much identified with our ego. Ego actually delimits us. Because it thinks and we think that what we think that we are. If we Read More …

Demystification of False Gurus Hotel de la Paix, Lausanne (Switzerland)

First of all, I’m very grateful to Gregoire’s family and him specially, for inviting Me to come to Switzerland to meet seekers of Truth. According to him, there are many, many seekers in this country, who are frightened of the fake gurus and are not venturing to find out much about God. Today he has selected a subject for Me to speak to you about the false gurus; how to find out who is false and who is true. It is very important because now the Judgement time, the Last Judgement has started already. This is the time it will be found out whether you have used your understanding wisely or not. We have to think that when somebody has to judge us, how will he organise the judgement. First of all, there will be good and bad placed before you. In your freedom, in human freedom, you have been seeking truth for many lives. But sometimes you are misled, you try to seek it in money or in power also, and sometimes also the romanticism of love. And every time you have made some mistakes also. Mistakes are not so important because those who are not yet there are, have to make mistakes. Moreover, if mistakes are committed by your spiritual naïveness, it is to be forgiven. After you have understood what is reality and when you have achieved reality, then only one can judge you whether you are all right or not. It would not be a fair Read More …