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Conversation about jewels and false gurus Madrid (Spain)

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Morning conversation with seekers about jewels and false gurus, Madrid, Spain, 1982, June 2nd Seeker Joseph: Yesterday, there was a person who studies Buddhism, A person not too much tall, older. Do you remember who he is? Brownish, short with moustache.Sahaja Yogini: Yes.Seeker Joseph: Suddenly I got a smell of sandalwood, and I thought it came from him, but no, he did not smell like sandalwood, but there was a moment when Shri Mataji passed by me and she smelled sandalwood, and I told myself. What is it, then I turned to smell the older man and he did not smell sandalwood, I went to smell Shri Mataji again and she neither smelled like sandalwood, but I know that maybe it was my nose that was open at that moment? When Shri Mataji passed by, I felt the smell of sandalwood.I do not know what to think.Sahaja Yogini. Oh!Shri Mataji: What he says?Sahaja Yogi: He says that in the meeting yesterday, when he passes near You, he smells sandalwood.Sahaja Yogini. Ja, ja.Sahaja Yogi; Jaja.Seeker: She must carry such exquisite vibrations.Shri Mataji: What he says?Sahaja Yogi: You must to have so exquisite vibrationsShri Mataji: the fragrance comer from insideSahaja Yogi: All these essences come from withinSeeker Joseph: Yes, I know itShri Mataji: Even remember me, sometimes, you can smell fragrances, this mother earth is made of fragrances.Seeker Joseph: Yes. I am going to tell you a history. A friend of mine named Fernando … Sesma Manzano, God bless him, deceased. Shri Read More …

Ruth’s appartment Rome (Italy)

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 Conversation in Ruth’s appartment, Rome, Italy, April the 26th, 1982 Shri Mataji: [to be convinced that] what we have to expect, what should happen to you, what Christ has said. Not what the churches are talking. What Christ has said, if you are a Catholic. Catholic means, I don’t know what you know of Catholic. What does it mean? New person: No, I was brought up as a Catholic. Shri Mataji: No, no, what I am saying, what is a Catholic, the word means? New person: What is a Catholic? Oh, the words itself, I don’t know. Shri Mataji: In our, in Sanskrit language, is called Samadhi, means something eternal. The ancient and eternal is Samadhi. So that is what is Catholic. And what do we expect, is what Christ has said, is/means Samadhi. So we should really sort it out first of all in our minds. It’s very much necessary. We should sort out what Christ has told, what are you to expect, what is the proof. New person: That’s my problem, because I’m already [having a OR agno], I am agnostic, [to the point of I don’t OR so I’m going to find and] verify, perhaps I believe in Christ as a man. Shri Mataji: Yes. Yes. All right. No, no but you see… New person: I don’t know if I believe in God. Shri Mataji: All right. All right. As a man also if you believe what has He told? What has He told? You see if Read More …

Conversation Ruth’s Apartment, Rome (Italy)

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[The William Blake* song, “Jerusalem”, is sung.] [unclear] prediction. Specially it’s a prediction about the house. I don’t know if you have read all that, this house that we are going to be building is says that at the back of Kensington Garden, then there’s a brook there who was called as so Twyburn which flows just under our house. Somewhere there, used to flow. A house will be decorated and the earth like humility will give the base as sort of very good [unclear] the whole thing is. And hearts will be thanks-giving. All this will be built. And [there] the golden builders. You see, they are painted with gold. The golden builders will build a monument. It’s beautiful. Every word of it, it’s so many things in that. As well as they are still searching it intuitively because when the things happen then they find out. Like the foundations will be made in Lambeth way, and [a/her] sinuses will vibrate round. [Aside: So you tell him?] Sahaja Yogini: Yes, Mother. [Italian translation] Shri Mataji: And first because He[‘ll be lived] in Surrey Hills. I lived in Southern Hills first, you see. So the first because he’ll be lived in Southern Hills. And another one, another prediction we had in India, means it’s another great thing, two thousand years back. [So/See] there was a great guru, who, very well-known for his astrological predictions, you see. He has written two books, you see. One of them is called as Nadi Read More …

Conversation, About Children Ruth’s Apartment, Rome (Italy)

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Conversation about Children, Ruth’s apartment, Rome, Italy, 24-04-1982 Shri Mataji: [unclear] I thought there was a big gap in my travelling now. Coming from India, I had some rest. [Where has Wilson gone?/It’s very nice and warm] London was very warm. How are you? I asked her. She said she’s here. How are you feeling? May God bless you. Am I supposed to sit there? Sahaja Yogi: Yes, Mother. Shri Mataji: It’s too much, beautiful all right. [He is busy/it’s beautiful.] So beautiful it is. Sahaja Yogi: Would you like a cup of tea, Mother? Shri Mataji: Yes, that would be nice. How are you? Sahaja Yogini: Hmm, good, thank you, Mother.Shri Mataji: That’s good. Now, I can see that on your face. [Sahaja Yogini: I never thought I would see you again. / I always enjoyed to see your face.] Shri Mataji: You know you all have to expand. This time [it is faster/spread much faster.] Shri Mataji : So what a welcome! What a welcome, [huh/eh]! What a welcome! [Arya?] must have told you all her experiences that we had in India. This year maybe we may not have any group in, in India maybe, because now I am going to concentrate on building some sort of a building for [unclear/ to speak] [these people here. The land that is given to us is absolutely beautiful. The land is so beautiful , you people all came away – it is the most beautiful land that you can think, Read More …

Meeting with French Yogis Cambridge (England)

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Conversation, songs, with Shri Mataji, Cambridge, England, 24/03/1982 FIRST AUDIO Shri Mataji: May God bless you. Beautiful. So, you hurried up too much. Will you have something to eat or not? Sahaja Yogi: No, Mother. Shri Mataji: You had your breakfast? Sahaja Yogi: Yes, Mother. Shri Mataji: Sure? So, I wanted to talk to you about France, the programs. Oh God! What is it here? It’s a tree! It’s a tree, is it? Sahaja Yogi: A very small tree. Sahaja Yogi: The tape recorder, Mother. Shri Mataji: For what? [Laughter] Sahaja Yogi: William was very anxious just to hear you Mother; William who came back to France is anxious to know what- Shri Mataji: You must get some tapes from Gavin, copy of tapes from Rustom are wonderful tapes there. Five tapes. Sahaja Yogi: Rustom? I have. Shri Mataji: Rustom. You’ve got? There are wonderful. Sahaja Yogi: Yes, Mother. Shri Mataji: All about Christ and his place and all that, it’s very good. They have sent Me these tapes about Christ and really, I was verifying [unsure] , I must say, as I couldn’t bear these people having the thing called United Church. They are uniting all kinds of bhoots and mesmeric people, all sorts! They had all kinds of false gurus, fake gurus, this, that in the name of church. I mean, this is even worse than having a church, isn’t it? If there is only one bhoot, you can make it run away. But this kind of a Read More …

Action and Desire Niphad (India)

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Conversation with Yogis, India tour, Niphad, (India), 6 February 1982. (Shri Mataji has involved the audience in the talk so the whole talk is very informative & interactive):Tape 1 Shri Mataji: You are better off now?Shri Mataji: Do you get this Jaggery, the one you ate in London?Audience: Yes, MotherShri Mataji: You get in England? I never saw this Jaggery.Audience: Yes Mother in Indian shops not in English shopsShri Mataji: In Indian but shops not in English shops.Audience: Yes Mother.Shri Mataji: Ha but not in English shops as such.This jaggery is a very good thing when you come out from somewhere like dusty places or something with sore throat and you take a little bit of jaggery and drink some water. It’s a very good idea. See one should take to simple medicines because if you take to antibiotics and this that nonsense then you become very weak and you have to, it has a reaction and then you have to take something else for the reaction, funny thing, it is antibiotic, it is, bio means life and it is anti life.People chatting/ Laughing. Shri Mataji speaks in Marathi. [Cut in the audio]Sahaja Yogini: ….If there is a relationship between tomorrow’s puja and full moon and so on.Shri Mataji: Should I have to boast about Myself?Sahaja Yogis: Yes Mother.[Laughting ; applause]Shri Mataji: As you know it is Parabrahma, that is the complete divine Power and the Holy Ghost is the complete divine Power, is the complete desire of God, which has Read More …

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Conversation Rahuri (India)

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Conversation, 1982, India …Coming down here to convert people. It’s a question of democracy, you see? Because in a democratic country, if there are more majority of the Muslims or Christians, then will become the, sort of the rulers, you see? So this move is you have to purchase people, convert them, and they are worried about it. I told them Sahaja Yoga is the only way by which people will settle down into themselves.You see, to have such a large majority in this country — (better I have some more, please) — such a large majority, or, I, I should say such a large democracy. And democracy, one has to pay a lot, because such, such influences might infiltrate, see? The Saudi Arabians can come down here and sort of clamp the whole country with their own government, possibility is there.I mean, they can’t do this in Russia or Poland or any place where they sow democracy. Which, without democracy people cannot develop. They cannot develop. Like, if a, say a Russian comes here, he’s not bothered about yoga or anything, never. He’s in, in say, if he’s in Bombay he’ll ask if there’s a discotheque or something. If he comes to the villages he will see how dirty your villages are. He is so inconvenient. He has so many problems, kind of basic. He can never feel the peace. He can never feel the peace because they are not developed, you see. All such undemocratic countries have human Read More …

Marriage: understand the real value of Sahaja Yoga Solapur (India)

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Talk on marriage, India I have to talk to you about few things. Sit down. Firstly about marriages, [And/as] in Sahaja Yoga there is no force on anybody to get married, not at all. If you don’t want to get married, you don’t get married, at all; there’s no need. You see, this is a very ego-oriented attitude towards things. So watch it. Be very careful. Nobody is [asked/urged] to get married, nor anybody can [be indulged/forced] into that, all right? One thing should be absolutely clear. Now, there is no force on anybody to marry a particular person, of any kind. Because ego-oriented people, if you tell them that, “According to vibrations and all that, that this person will be better for you,” mostly people get upset. So I am not going to decide for you. But sometimes people say, “Mother, unless and until You decide, we don’t want to decide; we don’t want to marry.” [Unclear] I mean, you put that thing on Me. Of course, I am not here for match-making or [something or anything]. What is the My ultimate interest in your marriages? What is My interest? My main interest is this, that there are many great souls who want to be born on this earth. And as Sahaja yogis, as their parents, they’ll be very happy to be born here. I am not interested in you, to be very frank, as far as marriage is concerned. So this ego business, because you think that you Read More …

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Conversation in Shri Mataji’s house Brompton Square House, London (England)

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Shri Mataji’s house in Brompton Square, London (UK), 1981 Shri Mataji: I think these people might have taken it….Ask them Yogi: I have asked them Mother, I just asked them…..And he say No…I cant physically get hold of them searching it Shri Mataji:….must be somewhere Yogi: ..You said you saw it in the morning in the..Y1: Yes in the Mother’s room…Y2: Grazyna was tidying up…she could have put it in Plastic bag also Shri Mataji: if its in My room.. Yogi: Is Grazyna there? Shri Mataji: May be something like here Yogi: See I can get it Yogi: Grazyna! Shri Mataji: Fergy! Fergy: Yes, Mother Shri Mataji: Chop it off now Fergy: There is no material now Shri Mataji: No but chopping off Fergy: Noone needs chopping off Shri Mataji: No material? What do you want? Fergy: We need some light lights Shri Mataji: Alright as soon as it comes here Shri Mataji: where is it? Fergy: Ah Nick ! Nick and Verana are…. Shri Mataji:..inaudible Fergy: They are downstairs Shri Mataji:….if you want to do something up there.. Yogi: we have to know exactly where the door is Shri Mataji: The door is here Yogi: Let me just push it in one inch..Hold the frame Yogi:…We don’t have any frame Shri Mataji: This frame is there. You have frame. Frame is there. This will hold. It will hold the… here.. Shri Mataji: We have another one. Not this one. We have another one. Very simple one. That’s just for Read More …

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis: With Kundalini awakening you get Nirvichar Samadhi Sydney (Australia)

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Talk to new Sahaja Yogis Mr. Modi : This Nirvichar Samadhi comes to you because of the Adishakti.  This we found. This aspect of Adishkati we found in Mataji.  And therefore there was no question.  When the state of thoughtless awareness came… Shri Mataji :  (speaking in Marathi) Mr. Modi: ok. Shri Mataji: …else they will not understand. You see he is so clear cut.  But he knows the difference between the mesmerism and the nirvichara Samadhi. So It’s better to tell the other way around I said.  Because you see, he is there clear cut, you see.  But you do not know that part that’s why.  [UNCLEAR TEXT] You don’t know.  They confuse nivichar Samadhi with mesmerism. Woman: Ah..yeah Shri Mataji: Also you see… Mr. Modi : Well if you are mesmerized and got the nirvichar samadhi the greatest difference will be…kundalini will be frozen as it should be.  And therefore (Shri Mataji and Mr. Modi speaking in Marathi) Shri Mataji: Yes. (Laughter) Shri Mataji : You see because this is not there explained in any of your…any books.  So how will you know.  You see, that mesmerism what happens? You see and what is a kundalini awakening and with Kundalini awakening you get nivichar Samadhi.  You see means crossing of the Agnya.  Is not possible without the Primordial Mother being there.  She is the only one who can do it.  It’s precisely said.  In am-mass basis though it is out of question for anybody else.  It’s very clearly…I Read More …

Darshan at Ashram Part 1 & 2 Sydney (Australia)

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Darshan at Ashram Part 1&2 March 25th, 1981, Sydney (Australia) PART 1 Shri Mataji: So now some questions would be good idea. Yogi: Mother, they say that Lord Buddha died of eating excessive pork – is it true? Shri Mataji: Who says that? Yogi: I’ve heard this, I just wondered Warren: One of his disciplines was vegetarianism. Shri Mataji: They don’t eat pork now, the Chinese? Warren: They do, they do. Shri Mataji: They should not. You see pork, people who are dealing with the centre, I mean the void, have a little against the pork always. Like the reason was it is very heating giving. It gives a lot of heat, pork gives a lot of heat. So they were not for it because there is already fire in the void you see, and adding to that, say liver patients taking pork really is not so good. But I would say fish is just the same. Fish has so much of phosphorus, that it can create problems for the liver people.  Allergies to fish. I mean pork proteins, protein because that is pork – is… can cause lots of problems. Warren: It’s got a much higher parasitic action than most meats. Shri Mataji: But that could not have died because he is not such an eater. This is all their ideas. But he was not a person who did not eat meat. Neither was Mohammed. It was later on, see these people started all this nonsense of vegetarianism. Yogi: Read More …

Sympathetic and Parasympathetic London (England)

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“Sympathetic And Parasympathetic”, Dollis Hill ashram. London (UK), 24 April 1980. Acupuncture is actually is the tapping of the power which is already within us. Now for example, you have a certain power in your stomach, all right? Now this power is continuously supplied to your other organs in the stomach, is used for that, through the sympathetic nervous system. The parasympathetic stores it and the sympathetic uses it.  Now supposing there is a disease in the stomach. So now the energy in that, vital energy in that particular centre is sort of exhausted or is much less. So what do they do? How to get well that person? They take from another centre, divert it, and put it there. And that’s how they try to cure that. But by that they create an imbalance, because you have a limited energy; you have a limited, absolutely limited, energy. Now supposing you have a limited petrol and another car you find whose petrol is all finished. Now if you push the petrol into another car, maybe that car will go half way and you will also go half way and finished. You understand my point? So both of them reduce your longevity. So it is the extraction of the energy which is within us which is limited. Sahaj Yoga is a very different thing: in Sahaj Yog your Kundalini rises and connects you with the All-pervading Power. So all the time you are getting power, the vital power within you flowing, Read More …