Tantrikas

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Tantrikas

Misuse of the Kundalini (1992-0621); Those who control dead spirits, are very bad, and lead to incurable diseases (1983-0129); Are found in many parts of India, notably Bengal, Bihar, UP, Kerala, and Madras (1979-0422); The Tantrikas in India… they entered into all kinds of things… and the worst thing they entered into are the Vedas themselves… where they declared even… that… they said that, the God and the Goddess… God and His Power are sex relationships… I ask you… they think that human beings are nothing but sex points… that they have nothing else, in them. Even an amoeba has something more than that (1979-0608.1)

‘So-called Tantrism’, came into being, in our country (India – Ed), since long… in ancient times… when the gurus were having few disciples with them… and is the opposite of the Real Tantrism… which is Sahaja Yoga… of the genuine kind. If Tantrism is to be considered as the genuine stuff, then it is Sahaja. So these tantrikas first started their jobs… in Rama’s time… and in the 6th century, it was at it’s height… when all other scripture were thrown into the river, and Tantrism became the scripture of the day. There was so much freedom… that licentiousness to do whatever you please with that scripture took place… in the 6th century. That was the best breeding time of these horrible people (1977-1121)

First the Tantrikas came… they were the first… and are the people who use sex for so-called Self Realisation (1977-1121); These tantrikas have no relationship with our ancient scriptures… for example, (Ravana – Ed) will never mention any of our ancient scriptures… he has no relationship with any Deities… does he mean to say he has nothing to do with Christ… with God… with anyone… but only with sex. You people… really… are you only sex points (1979-0200.1); Most of Tantrism has come out of inauspiciousness… Pantheism is nothing but inauspicious mastery (1978-1002)

Without Kundalini rising, without Realisation, whatever you try… you spoil it. So… they went absolutely astray… and the whole thing… is aimed at spoiling your Kundalini… it’s so simple… if it is unauthorised (1979-0608.2); Before the Deity… before the Gods, if you do something extremely inauspicious, you make the attention of the Gods and all it’s protection to get out… this is the basis of all these tantriks (1978-1002)… there is no Deity existing there any more. Then at that point you invite those who are afraid of God… I should say the Spirits… they enter in… then they start using the Spirits (1979-0608.2)

They all have different methods. Like (Ravana – Ed) what he has done is… they put a Deity, and before that Deity they make a sex relationship (1979-0608.2; 1979-0609.3); Now this horrible fellow (Narakasura – Ed) has worked on the Swadisthan… that’s why he’s more dangerous… he works more on the right hand side… and these Supraconscious spirits are brought in… it’s all Supraconscious work he does (1979-0609.3)

One criteria is sufficient I think… to begin with… anybody who takes money… is fake. Then second would be… those who are interested in women… you see one of the greatest sins is to be interested in… the wife of another. But a guru… a person who says he is something spiritual… or even this horrible (Ravana – Ed)… he’s trying another trick of this tantrism… in which he says… ‘you wear this dress’… which announces that you are a detached person… and then ‘you indulge into everything’… you see the juxtaposition… you understand the point… if you preach something and do the juxtaposition of that… you do just the opposite… to insult (1979-0609.3)

Now whatever experiences you get… for example, some people start just… jumping… some start shouting… some start behaving like animals… and they say… ‘oh… that is what is coming out’ – they feel very bad… they get terrible diseases… they get into troubles… into pains… and all sorts of things… and contortions… and they say… ‘now your subconscious is coming out’ – nothing has to be brought out… that’s one thing you must know (1983-1001)

There are so many Tantrikas, who know who I was… they are afraid of me… they talk about me… they tell about me (1977-0215); I must be the greatest Tantrika, because I know the mechanism… I can handle it… but the Tantrikas of so-called modern times are horrible people, because they are connecting the Kundalini with sex (1977-1024.1); If somebody has planted into you that Kundalini can be only risen through sex… he’s a Tantrika… sex has nothing to do with Kundalini… at all… it’s a wrong idea… she is your Mother… the Eternal Mother that you have… she knows everything about you… you are the only child she has… and she is born again and again with you… how many of you would like to connect your mother with sex… that’s the worst thing that you can do to your mother (1977-1024.1; 1977-1024.3)

Tape References:

Date/Ref – Title – Qual – mins

1979-0200.1 Talk to westerners & about negativity – see 1979-0200 poor 65 1977-0215 Talks about Sat Chit Anand, Delhi poor 65

1977-1024.1 Caxton Hall tape 1 poor

1977-1024.3 Caxton Hall tape 3 poor

1977-1121 Tantrism, Caxton Hall poor 75

1978-1002 Knots in the 3 channels, Caxton Hall poor 90 1979-0608.1 Maria’s House Tape 1 not good 50

1979-0608.2 Maria’s House Tape 2 poor

1979-0609.3 Maria’s House Tape 3 poor

1983-0129 Swadisthan Chakra, Delhi (“False Gurus, & Conditionings”) good 70 1983-1001 Santa Cruz interview good 45

1992-0621 Kundalini Puja, Cabella good 55

– end – 25 Dec 2002