Public Program, Seeking the Force That Drives Us

Maria’s House, Wellingborough, Northampton (England)



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Public Program. Northampton (UK), 17 July 1980.

Our life’s journey is also like this. We don’t know how to find our way. We are traveling and we are seeking. The seeking is the force, which drives us sometimes crazy. We don’t know what to do. We have to seek something. We are not satisfied with what we have. So we go on seeking. [Now, And] what are we seeking? We have no idea as to what we have to seek, a thing that will give us satisfaction, the place which will stop our journey, our abode where we would rest. This urge within us is very evident in the modern time. It was never so [unclear: clear]. This is the first time you find so many people are seeking. And they are genuinely seeking. They feel that there is something lurking in their being, there is something that is missing in them.

It is being said in the Scriptures, in all the Scriptures, whether Indian, Islamic or Biblical, that to be there you have to be born again. In Gita Shri Krishna says, “Those who see, can see. Those who cannot see, cannot see.” “Ya sha pashyati sa pashyati.” The one who cannot see cannot see. It’s a simple thing. But to a normal human being, we can’t understand that, “I can see everything. Why can’t I see? I see the colors, I see the room, I see everything.” Why it is said that those who can see can see and those who cannot see cannot see? It’s a very mysterious statement.

Supposing I say that in these petals there are lots of cells and it’s divided into many cells. Then you will say, “No, we see them. There are only petals. We don’t see any cells.” So you require a microscope. You have to make a section of that and under the microscope you can see there are cells. You can see the cells clearly under the microscope. All that is material you can see with your material life. But there is something else about which these people are talking that you have to see it through your Spirit. It gets satisfied by itself. [Hindi] “The Spirit gets satisfied by itself.” These sayings sound extremely mysterious [to us].

But if I say, “This room is dark. Come inside and you can see,” but you come inside, you find it’s still dark. You can’t see anything. So somebody puts on the light and you see everything. This is also outside us, putting the light, microscope. This is paroksha, is the outside, by which your material life can be projected more. You can see more. But if I say you have to see inside, you can’t turn your eyes back to see inside. That you cannot do. Now, what is the method by which you can see inside or feel inside or go inside? Through our eyes our attention goes out. We see everything. But supposing tomorrow something topples down. Immediately our attention is attracted towards that happening. So inside us there must be some arrangement for this happening that must be attracting our attention inside and that’s how we must be going inside.

We have evolved from amoeba to this stage. We are human beings. Our evolution has come through our attention fixed outside. The happening has to go inside. But the evolution so far has been by going outside. Like some fishes felt the land and tried to crawl out and they became the reptiles. The reptiles wanted to run fast so they developed four legs as a tortoise. As animals they could not eat; so they raised their head. Things at the height they could not see, so they raised their body more. So all the evolution so far has come through the urge of seeking only, but it has been outside. We have been seeking food, as human beings we are seeking power, we have been seeking money, possessions, comfort. But now the seeking has to go within. For example, when we are building a house we build all the outside and everything properly. When it is all done outside then you go inside and start decorating. In the same way you have to go inside to achieve the last breakthrough. For example, we have made a fortress for ourselves and we have to enter inside the fortress to enjoy it. We have to penetrate inside the house to enjoy it. But our attention is outside. We cannot go inside.

So something has to happen that you are to be sucked in. Some sort of a vacuum is created inside by which you are sucked in. It’s a beautiful arrangement which has been sahaja, means spontaneously growing within us. Like a seed has all the map of the tree it has to become. It does not have to consult A to Z or anything. It has its own map, and it grows on that map spontaneously. In the same way our being has been growing spontaneously since we were just matter, lifeless matter. Gradually it was sprouting and we reached the stage where today we are human beings. But that’s not the end because if it was we would have known our meaning, you would have known why we are here. Now the happening takes place through the awakening of this Kundalini. It is placed in the triangular bone. It is there. You can see with your naked eyes it is there.

We are here to tell you the message that now this last evolutionary process which has to take place has started. Like every instrument has to be prepared first of all and put to the mains so the electricity starts flowing through it and starts manifesting. In the same way your instrument has been created so beautifully and the electricity, that they call as the divine power of love of God, has to flow through you. To connect you to that power very beautifully God Almighty has placed this energy of Kundalini in your triangular bone. I say this is the power of divine love.

There are so many powers we know of, of course apart from the material powers we had. We know that there are people who are indulging into all kinds of subconscious powers, into all kinds of supraconscious powers, because a person can just make these flowers gather together sitting down here. A person can just break this with one hand. But do you get anything out of that? If it is your living process of germination, do you get any transformation out of it? Supposing somebody breaks this, so what? We can otherwise also break it, if you put it to some electrical [you can break it / it’s how you can get it]. If somebody is sitting down here collects the flowers, so what? If anybody has any such powers, they are all outside powers. The electricity has to flow inside.

So to have your own power you individually has to be connected to the mains. What’s the use of seeing somebody else’s powers also? Best thing is you are your own guru and you have your own powers. For example, when this thing is not lighted it looks as if it has no power. But as soon as it is lighted you find there is light coming in. It can burn. Not only it can give you light but it can burn. It can melt. It has all the powers of fire as soon as it is enlightened. Potentially it has all the powers but it was not aware of it. In the same way whatever potential powers you have got we have to [unclear] tackle it. These powers reside within us still unenlightened. As soon as you are enlightened, you become aware of your powers. First we must know what we have before distributing something to others.

For example, you are a bankrupt and you start, “Oh, I am the very generous man.” What’s the use of such a generosity when you have no money in the bank? Are you going to distribute your debt? We must know what do we have in our bank. We must find out if we have any powers within us. If we have then we can distribute.

Now I say we have lots and lots of powers. We are really very powerful. And also I say that these powers are to be enlightened within you so that they manifest, so that you feel your powers, so that you can maneuver your power, so that you can know that this power of love is the supreme, is the highest. Like if you are made a king tomorrow you’ll feel very happy about it. With that happiness you’ll also have powers to rule, powers to punish. When you get these powers of your Spirit then you become the citizen of the Kingdom of God Almighty who is all-powerful. And He is a very, very compassionate Father. He is compassion, He is ocean of compassion, He is ocean of love, He is ocean of mercy and He wants to give all these powers to you so that you are empowered to manifest your being.

When you get these powers also you feel absolutely enamored, you feel absolutely quiet. Now you’ve found it. As we came here going round Northampton for forty-five minutes, as soon as we saw the name of the building we said, “We’ve got it”. But the difference is that he knew the name of the building. Here you don’t know anything. But the prove of the pudding is in the eating of it. In the same way you come to a point where you know, “I’ve found it. I’ve got it.” And that point you have to achieve yourself. You have to certify yourself. Nobody else can certify.

Even those people who get the Kundalini awakening and also the piercing of the fontanel bone in the beginning start thinking, because thinking is a disease of the western mind. They’ll think about everything, even about which they cannot think. This happening takes place without thinking. They start thinking, “Is that the one we have [got / caught] it?” Then again you come down to the thinking level. Like supposing we come to this place and then we go back to see, is that the place we have to go? So you are still sitting outside. Now you have found it. Now just verify is it so or not. Get inside it. Get inside it. Try to find out, Yes, we saw somebody. Yes, this is it. This is it. Here it is we have to be.

Of course there are scriptures who have said that when you achieve your Self-realization then you become collectively conscious, [Hindi: Samuhik Chetna]. You become. But it is a term which is very difficult to grasp before you are realized. Means what happens? What is collective consciousness? What happens to us is that you start feeling yourself and others on your fingertips, five, six and seven centers. Doctors have reached a conclusion that these are the endings of the sympathetic nervous system. But they do not know the decoding of it. They do not know how they are, how they work out, what is their work. Like now at the end of it you have got these tips. When the enlightenment takes place you get them on the tips. You don’t enlighten them there. These centers get enlightened. The light comes in. Now what is a light in awareness is sensitivity. Supposing this finger is numb ‒ say, in leprosy you must have known that the fingers become absolutely numb ‒ when the fingers are numb then you cannot feel anything. When the enlightenment takes place then the numbness goes away and you start feeling it. But when Realization takes place then these fingers become even more alert, much more alert and you start feeling something funny. Like today one girl came to My house and she said, “What’s happening to me? My fingers are tingling.” Just as you would go near this you feel hot. Everyone will feel hot. This is subjected. Nobody is going to say that, “I’m feeling cool.”

But you when you are realized you start feeling cool from here. You’ll be amazed. Even from the light you get the cool. You see, I put My hand here. There’s no breeze over here. They have started moving. There’s no breeze. Suddenly when I put My hand they start moving. You start feeling the breeze going through you. This is the breeze of the Holy Ghost. This is the Chaitanya Lahari described by Shankaryacharya. Shankaryacharya preached advaita, means we are like small drops separated from the ocean. And when we go back to the ocean we become the ocean. The powers of the ocean come into us. This is the advaita of Shankara. That means you become powerful as the ocean is.

And this is what happens that a small cell which is now acting according to the dictates of the brain, becomes aware of the brain and can communicate with the brain. Or we can say a small cell becomes aware of the whole. You become aware of the powers of Almighty. Not only aware but you know how to handle it, you know how to make it flow through you. You know that there are problems in your being but because of that is not flowing properly. You know how to correct it in yourself and you know how to correct it in other people. This is the Samadhi, is the enlightened awareness.

This is what should happen to you by which your powers start manifesting and giving light to others. You have to be enlightened so that you enlighten other people. This is the thing we have to ask for. Before this all the things what people do have no meaning. You are not connected to the phone whom are you dialing. There are people who say, “Oh, we believe in God. We believe in Divine. We are singing of it.” You are not connected. Krishna has said it that, “Yoga kshema vahameyeham.” First you must have yoga that is Realization then kshema, means then well being [will] you look after [you].

Like some people you must have seen on Oxford Street with those hairstyles, dancing with the dhotis, you know, Hare Rama, Hare Krishna, like mad. What are they doing? They have no connection with God. Supposing I have to meet the Queen, and I have no connection with Her and I stand on the Oxford Street and start speaking, “Queen Elizabeth, Queen Elizabeth,” the police will catch hold of Me and put Me in the lunatic asylum. You have no authority. You have no connection. You have no protocol. How are you connected? How are you asking for anything? This is the truth that you have to become a hollow machine through which this Divine Love has to flow. If you do not get it today you will come to Me tomorrow.

There are people, I met the other day interesting people. Sometimes I really laugh. If there is a fake person who is showing such miracles like lifting the flowers there will be thousands of people to go and see the show. If there is somebody who is saying that, “I will give you a mantra,” people are so mystified, they do not know what to expect. They go to him, pay money, and thousands will be there just to pay money and he tells in your ear a funny mantra. Now, the other day there was one guru who has given a mantra ‒ he doesn’t know a word of Sanskrit ‒ called as tinga. The tinga means, this, you see, show like this to someone. In Hindi language it means tinga. It’s not even Sanskrit. He’s given that mantra to someone. Just what do you say to that? He’s befooling people like this, taking money from them, and people are involved. Now what are you seeking? Are you seeking a mantra? He says that by saying these mantras you can fly. You should ask the gentleman to fly himself first of all. Take him to the seven storey, drop him from there and see how far he goes flying. It’s a simple thing. And then we should know, “Are we to fly now like birds? Have we to become now birds, flying in the air?” Why are we seeking such nonsensical things? What’s wrong with us? Are we stupid people? What’s going wrong? How can we seek these things? What are we seeking? We are seeking ourselves, ourselves, our Spirit.

Everyone has said this, that you are to be reborn. Like an egg is born first. We are really like an egg. We don’t know anything outside. just like an egg, you see. That yellow stuff called as ego and that the blue stuff, deep blue stuff, sometimes even black it could be, called as superego, they just make you an egg. You are lost in yourself. You are separate. An egg cannot fly, cannot feel anything. It matures by itself. It has to be an egg. It matures by itself, spontaneously. And when the time comes, the mother bird pierces the head of the egg, and here comes the bird. It’s a miracle. But the bird is already there ready. In the same way your rebirth takes place. In Sanskrit language a bird is called a dvijaha, and a Brahmin is called a dvijaha. But these days the word Brahmin means nonsense. Brahmin means the one who has known the Brahma.

Brahma is the divine power of love of God. It’s just love. Love is knowledge and love is joy. When the whole being, the attention of your being is filled with this love you just become the joy, you just talk with joy and every throbbing of yours is love. And that love gives you the knowledge of others. If you purely love somebody even otherwise, then you know everything about that person. In the BBC sometimes, you see, you see the husband and wife’s game very interesting. What hair oil does she use? What kind of motorbike he likes? Such questions are asked, just to judge the knowledge of the husband and wife among themselves, to find out, because if they love each other they would know all these small, small things. But when it is pure love you just know. It becomes subjective, absolutely subjective because you become the subject of love. So you know everything about everyone and everything is known through its essence. Now see this fire is here, all right? To you this is ordinary fire. I can enlighten the fire, doubling. If I enlighten this then the fire can burn away all the impurities within us. It does.

You know this Mother Earth. I was in Kuala Lumpur and the speaker of the assembly, a Muslim, invited me to his house. And there were about thousand people who had come, I think out of which at least three hundred were sick. The rest have come to help them out. And they all gathered in a big garden, very big garden. And no other Sahaja Yogi was with Me. I was just alone. I said, “It’s all right. You all sit on the ground.” I just requested the Mother Earth, “Now, take away their problems.” And She started sucking it. There was a boy who had polio trouble. They have brought him, you see, just brought him, kept him there. He could not walk at all. He was brought like a sack and put on the ground. Suddenly the mother said, “Where is the boy gone?” He had just got up and walked off!

You can ask the Mother Earth, you can ask the fire because you are connected. You are at the essence of it. What is the essence of Mother Earth? Can anyone of the scientists tell Me? Any Sahaja Yogis? What is the casual [causal?] essence of Mother Earth? Fragrance, fragrance is the casual [causal] essence of Mother Earth. And fragrance has the capacity of magnetism. And that’s why the Mother Earth has got the magnet. It is most surprising. That’s why people wear, you see, all these beautiful fragrances, to attract others or to soothe others. So fragrance of the Mother Earth if you can enlighten. Even while Kundalini is rising within you is the Mother Earth also, the element of Mother Earth. Where is it? In the lowest, that lowest chakra, there is the Mother Earth. It’s made from the prithvi tattwa, from the Mother Earth, the essence of the Mother Earth. Suddenly you start getting lot of fragrance within you. And you don’t know from where this fragrance is coming. And you find that it is this center which is being enlightened and you are getting fragrance.

Then the second center which you see there is the center which comes from fire and Mother Earth. The essence of that is fire and Mother Earth. So we can use fire to cure that. For example, when you think too much this center revolves round [tours]. By thinking too much this center has to work very hard because it replaces your brain cells through these fat cells which are here. It transforms them and send them for the brain cells. It has to work very hard and when it works very hard then all it’s working hard, work on the center called as the Agnya, specially on the back side, when it is obstructed, when it is working as obstructed, all that effort goes back here. When it goes back there then it affects your eyes. Can you imagine, if you can somehow or other manage to enlighten the sun you can get rid of your eye trouble. Your eyes can be cured through treatment from the sun but you have to be a realized soul. You can manage the sun all right.

The third center that is there is the center made out of water element. Now, water has the capacity to flow. It has a capacity to cleanse. It has many capacities. It is shining, shining. This center gives you the shine on the face. [Hindi: Kanti Rupena Sahangstita] Now if this center is allowed to flow properly ‒ properly is the word ‒ if you allow this center to absolutely go wherever it likes, your attention will be flittered [frittered?]up. But if you use it properly and allow it to grow within you your living process, because you know by water only living things live, then you reach a state where you can even enlighten this center. And when you enlighten this center the first thing that happens to you is that your material problems get solved. It’s a very deep science.

Many people who have come to Me had no jobs. They were in complete shamble, as they say, or in a mess, had no money, didn’t know what to do. This center got enlightened and they got the essence and the essence is called as Lakshmi tattwa. They got jobs, everything they were helped, they had a nice house. People who had no houses, who were living in very small little houses got good houses. They don’t know how they managed and how they got it, how this miracle took place. Because the essence within you of your wellbeing in this center is enlightened. If the second center is enlightened then you become suddenly very creative. Is the center of creativity. Then you do not think. Thinking makes you mad. For example, have you seen a writer writing something? He’ll have file of papers torn out. He’s writing something. And you’ll find he cannot do it. He’ll go mad. Again he’ll write something. And then it’s not all right. Then he put it down.

But when you are realized and that center is enlightened you don’t have to sit down and think. It just comes out; you write it down. Because the essence of this center is creativity, it comes from within. By thinking you cannot bring out your creativity. You cannot. Only thing is that if you have the technique, the creativity comes from within and through the technique you express it. Musicians, poets, artists. I’ve known people who never knew how to sing, had horrible voices, now are melodiously singing like a cuckoo bird, after Realization. Of course that is also another centre which is here, when this one is enlightened.

Now every centre I cannot tell today because it’s a long [based] thing. But I just have to tell you that when these centres are enlightened, your powers of these centers start manifesting. Secondly, all these centers become integrated. You don’t have a problem to integrate yourself. For example, some people are working here. In their mind is somebody else. They don’t want to do it. They just don’t want do that work, with [unclear] there. The mind is somewhere else. They are thinking of something else and asking for something else. So they are divided among themselves. They don’t know whether to do it or not do it. But when you get this Realization, all your body, mind, everything gets integrated and whatever you do emits joy.

Now this is all too fantastic for you. I know it is too much, much too much for [unclear]. But why I have given you this is because I have seen yesterday and was very disappointed the way people are frivolous, the way people do not have any self-esteem. They are very egoistical. Egoistical persons are stupid, always stupid, isn’t it? You must have seen how an egoistical person talks, like they are stupid fool. You don’t understand. And they are so frivolous also. They have no self-esteem. They don’t understand what they ought to see, what they have got.

That’s why I’m telling you today that you should know that it’s the most important thing, it’s the only thing that you have to achieve. Do not go in for useless miracles. Ask for the miracles of your Spirit. When the Spirit manifests you’ll be amazed how beautiful you feel and how beautifully you work it out, because you have found out your whole, you have found out your destination, you have reached your goal. I hope it will work with those who are here. I know they are few and people might think that very few people have come but it is a living process. For reality even to get so many people is, I think, is great.

At the time of Christ, all His life he could gather twelve fishermen. How could you talk about Kundalini to twelve fishermen? But to get even this, this much of people for reality, I’m very happy about it. By God’s grace gradually this living process will be accepted and people will take to reality and not to the circuses. We have to get the real within us. We have to know ourselves, fully we have. It has to happen. If it does not happen in you, it doesn’t mean it’s wrong with the system, but it’s something within which can be corrected, which should happen. In second city or the third city I am here to work it out and you all have to work it out.

It’s a very long thing, which I did not want to say it now but there are so many lectures I have given, you can go through and see for yourself. Here in Northampton you have a very great Sahaja Yogini is Maria and her husband, [unclear name] that is a very great Sahaja Yogi. So this has a special blessings all the way. When I came here first there were of lots of these black magic people, occultist [unclear]. They all started dancing, this, that and I said, “Now where am I here?” But today I find the people are of a different style and different nature and this for such people it is, for people of that calibre who are seeking the reality. May God bless you all.

H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi