Public Program, Introduction to Mooladhara Chakra

New Delhi (India)


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Public Program, New Delhi (India), 5 February 1981.

Today I am going to speak in general, about Sahaja yoga and Kundalini awakening. Sahaja as you know means SAHA means with and JA – born with you, but perhaps people do not realize what Sahaja actually means. It is spontaneous, but what is spontaneous. Spontaneous is not that supposing I am going in the car suddenly I meet somebody I say spontaneously I met that person Spontaneous means that happening is a living happening. It has to be a living thing which is spontaneous it’s a very mysterious word, that cannot be explained and that happens without any understanding about it, which is not possible for a human being to understand that is Sahaja, Sahaja may mean its very simple its very easy, it is, it has to be. for example God has given us these eyes these wonderful eyes that these human beings have got that not that they can see the color but can also appreciate it, God has given them a nose, which is so well developed that it can feel the filth animals cannot feel it.

You have become a human being I have become human being and everybody has become a human being, become from a amoeba stage spontaneously can you explain that how it has happened further we can see everyday we see so many spontaneous things happening today you go in the forest you will see lots of flowers there, in the forest in the wilderness and tomorrow you will find lots of fruits produced by these flowers, Who has done it?

Effortlessly the nature has done it. it’s a living happening it won’t happen in a dead thing for example this hall I have been visiting now every year is just the same. The size is just the same except that some people have put some other color or put some appendages that’s all. Dead cannot grow by itself there is no growth it is not a spontaneous growth it is a growth of effort that you have to put in things on top of all dead things to make it look bigger.

In all the living things whatever has been the living work by the living God has been miraculous you cannot explain but we have taken everything for granted for else it doesn’t surprise us that today we see a flower tomorrow a fruit we see a little seed growing into a huge big tree and we are not surprised at it not at all its being taken for granted. This is the living work. see the system, the whole system of nature is in such a balance, such a balance is maintained it creates different types of seasons one after the another. the sun moves from one tropic to another it creates seasons the trees are laden with leaves and suddenly the trees are left without them. the all the leaves fall off automatically because the sun is going on the other tropic but the leaves have to fall down on the ground why because the nutrition of nitrogen has to go to the mother earth to be re-sucked by the tree. all this circle has been built up you see in the universe how things are happening we never even bother to see we all have been taking full advantage of Gods love for us out of His spontaneity He has created us and also He has created us in such a way that we can enjoy His spontaneous love all around us but we try to see God, try to see God in dead things.

If somebody has a big house people think God has blessed him, if somebody gets a bid position they think God has blessed him but we never realize that these things which are not spontaneous which are through effort have been achieved are of no consequence as far as the joy is concerned. You give some money to a person, who is not used to money, immediately you will find he will go to the race course or he will start drinking, he can’t bear it. When the riches grow too much you see what happens. Affluence crates such a problem you have known that now you are very aware of it, how affluence has ruined the spontaneity of western people, how their society has become malignant, how they are unhappy there is no love. This spontaneity within us is worked through the living force that is within us and not through the dead. Whatever dies within us, is pushed aside. Sahaja Yoga is the culmination of that living work by which you have become a human being and now the time has come for you to become a self realized personality, the time has come.

Many people asked me today in the press conference, “what is Your purpose, what is Your mission?”, Its most surprising as they asked all the political leaders they were asking Me . The time has come, the time has come for you to get your self realization. You are ready for it now. This is the time when the chaos is at its maximum level. , where people understand that these pursuits of wealth, of power, another emotional possessions are of no value, where the pressures and tensions are so great that man is seeking.

In every country I find thousands and thousands and thousands of people seeking , even in our country there are people who are seekers, that’s a category now developed , it’s a category , like a flower is a category on the trees, different from other parts of the tree, in the same way a seeker is a category which is different from the other parts of the world. He is not satisfied with what he has and he has started seeing through that there must be something beyond this is not the end of it , only such people are welcome in Sahaja Yoga, those who are not seekers cannot be forced into it, it’s a spontaneous thing.

Now, this has been promised in various scriptures that this has to happen , as old as nalapurana – I don’t know if you have read it or not because these modern people don’t read all these puranas you see, we think its all too ancient for us to read , it was said that when kalyuga will at its worst , harass (not clear )[unclear] the human beings at that time those people who are seeking god today in the hills and dales will be born again and they will get their self realization , you will be amazed that in England which we don’t think in any way spiritually rich country Indians at least don’t think so at least they feel that they are very spiritually rich, I wonder if they are really , but if they are I am not surprised at it because you have such a great heritage if you have not forgotten it, you are the best to get your realization, you are the best suited for that you have that sukrut (sanskrit word for good deeds) behind you, you have that big right to get it , how far Indians are seekers , that’s what one has to see (some Marathi in middle).

Now the problem is, (let it be – not referred in talk) when you are a seeker when you are seeking God which is the way to do it , how to do it , because your parents told you that you are Muslim or a Christian or a Parsee or Sikh or something you just become that but by doing any of the rituals or any one of the things that your parents have told, you still feel that there is something more that has to happen and what is that ,which is the missing point , that we have to know within ourselves. Today I am happy we heard such a great song, by such a great poet, Kabira and that as he has said it and as everybody has said it, Christ has said it, Mohommad Sahab has said it, all of them has have said it , that it is inside you is the lord, is the Rama, is the Shiva, is the paigambara or is the what they call the Allah , then seek it.

Now, we start singing the songs, we better seek and you better seek and we must seek. By singing the song are you going to seek? Now how do you seek then, Mother?, they ask Me, “How are we to seek God?” Is there a way and method, how did you become human beings?

Effortlessly without any effort! Only thing was that you exposed yourself to nature and nature created you , you call it nature or God its just the same, in the same way it is the job of God almighty who has created you , to give you your meaning , if I make an instrument like this , it is My job to tell the person, what to do with it, how to put it to the mains and how, it is to be used, in the same way it is the job of God almighty to do it and He knows how to do it.

So one may say, what should we do about it? What is the way to achieve that ?, again we are on the effort , actually, what we have to do is to be in the center. You must lead a moderate life, you should not go to extremes, if you go to extremes too much, then you are taking your attention away from the spirit. You have to keep in the center, you have to lead a very normal life.

As Kabira has very clearly said that I do not go anywhere. He was a married man, he keeps in the center, don’t have to use any extreme or exterior things, to express your spirituality , it is within yourself that you will find it, keep to the center. It is absolutely practical , its common sense ,think of a car which its not having its center of gravity at its center but is moving at a tilt, think of a boat that is tilted, anything that is tilted too much gives an imbalance, so to keep a balanced life, to keep a moderate life in the center, be very, very normal, that’s what everyone has said, because that’s what it is. By keeping in the center only we have achieved our evolution Always if you see the tree you will find the sap of the tree three rises in the center, all living work takes place in the center, even your social and economic activities takes place in the center, even as we call it Delhi as the central government.

So you have to keep to the center of your behavior, of your living, of your styles, of your thinking, do not go to extremes, this is the first thing they have told us. Today they asked me a question that Mother you have cured so many cancer patients, I have no doubt and cancer can be easily cured so many diseases can be cured by Kundalini awakening but how do you get cancer is the question they asked Me I said, by going to extremes by going to extremes only you develop all the problems. Even in your religious duties you go to extremes when you go to extremes you go away from the center path, that’s how you get caught up on the left or the right hand side which is shown here, I don’t know if you can see it, which is very important to see.

Sahaja Yoga has been described by all the saints especially after Adi Shankaracharaya. Has very clearly talked about it Before that it was kept as a very sacred and a secret science because there were very few people who could be given realization but today it is not that I am talking to only Arjuna or to few people here and there to selected but it is open invitation to all the people to open their eyes to this subtler knowledge, to this the real power of yourself that is with in you.

Now when we have become human beings , we have gone through various stages. All these stages are built within us at centers. These various centers lie within us within our spinal cord, one out of the spinal cord and two of them in the brain. These centers are there, who are the milestones of our evolution. When we were just a carbon atom we were at the first center, Carbon.

I wonder how many people who know chemistry, know the beauty of Carbon.

Carbon is made by mother earth and that is very important because it has a balance.. Carbon has four valences plus and minus both. I know if you know chemistry you will know about carbon very well so it can give four or take four, its such a balanced thing just in the center of the periodic table this carbon. without the carbon life could not come on this earth so carbon was to be created first and when we were carbon we were innocent, complete innocent people Innocence is the first thing that was created on this earth, and this innocence is represented with in us at a material level or a matter level as carbon in the first center about which I will tell you tomorrow. What more things this center has and which is a very important center.

Luckily in our country this center is very, very strong basically we are innocent people. Is a fact, you might think that Mother is trying to pamper our ego ,we are innocent ,but we have taken to ways of other people who came here and we thought that material development is the only way our country can improve and then we took to so many ways and methods by which our innocence is lost or is at least at stake. This innocence is within us.

That’s the beginning of our evolution, now while evolving gradually, we have got so many qualities within us, also we have something very special compared to other animals, and that thing is the ego.

First of all, if you see the left side, from the right to the left side ,is the power within us which you can call as the power of desire , by which we desire , ichha shakti. You may desire anything ,we desire so many things but we have to put in concrete action to achieve the results, so the other power we have on the left hand side going to the right hand side is the power of action. The left hand side channel, which carries the power of desire is called as ida nadi and the right hand side one which you see which actually starts from the left goes to the right is called as the pingla nadi. The first one is called as the chandra nadi the second one as surya nadi. The first one creates your mana, Sanskrit its better to say manas you understand what mana is and the second one crates Ahankara. So the second one which is the ahankara which has come to us through our efforts, through our kriya, is like a balloon on our heads and that is the problem of today, the human beings have to face, of which they are not aware.

The first power of mana is very simple. ,You desire something ,you go on desiring and panning for it, desiring and panning for it , thus , you harm yourself , you start harming yourself and when you start desiring when you start using this power of desire. When you desire too much, you become affected by it. When you get affected you get all kinds of problems like depression and other mental problems I mean, people can become mad and all the psychological problems, which is described by Freud the great.

Now Freud being a scientist I would say a human being, he was a blind man, so he found something he said this is the thing, is the truth , that a person who suffered from any mental trouble is suffering because of his conditioning is a fact, but he only dealt with mad people, he never dealt with normal people. If you meet mad people that doesn’t mean, that all the rest of the world is mad. The mad people are mad because of too much of conditioning is agreed, but for that another extreme could be that you should have no conditioning at all you go ahead with whatever you like. Thank God in India he never settled down. Many people tried to settle down here they did not somehow this country has a method by which it throws away all the nonsensical things, so Freud was not so much accepted except for some so called pseudo intellectuals who call themselves westernized.

But in the West they are so naive they accepted him, they accepted Freud out and out.

So the question is what’s wrong?? Supposing you do this, what’s wrong?? This is the question they will ask “what’s wrong in this?? What’s wrong in that??” In doing anything what’s wrong?? They cannot even understand what’s wrong if there is bad relationship between brother and sister. Can you imagine? Indian persons can understand it, when you tell to an Indian man he will just laugh at this, its stupidity, so what has happened when they say “what’s wrong in it, and what’s wrong in it” they started developing their right side, their ego side, so if you neglect your conditioning or if you try that there should be no conditioning at all, people can become extremely ego oriented and all the West is drowned into it. They are so ego oriented that you cannot talk to him them , they really bark , they do not talk .Only when it is the matter of money they talk softly otherwise they just bark. They are so ego oriented you can’t imagine and you will be amazed we think that they are very united and that they are No they fight all the time. Husband will fight with the wife, wife will fight with the children, children will fight with the parents, parents will fight with the parents, its all going on, they are all the time fighting, quarreling and arguing.

You see any picture or drama that they make these days they only quarrel between husband and wives, you get fed up. The whole system work how to fight each other, no wonder they start wars also.

So, this ego orientation has gone to another extreme now, we had to develop our ego to a point when it came up to this point where the Kundalini can be easily pierced through, because first the superego was too much, so the ego developed and they have to meet in the center like this.

If you keep a moderate life, then you develop your ego properly and a superego you are in the center and traditionally thank God Indians are better of, that’s why I say they are innocent, but, there are people in India I have seen who are in charge of affairs who are supposed to be very educated and learned and professors and this and that they say the same thing “what’s wrong”??.

Now, in India, we know what is susanskara is, susanskara there is a word like su which I don’t know even in English language if it is but su – is good, we must have good sanskaras we must have discipline of our mind.

The concept of Indian life is chitta -nirodh- you must control your attention, shouldn’t allow your attention to pass out, shouldn’t allow your attention to spill out, from childhood we ask our children [unclear] Where is your attention? Where is your attention? Where are you lost ? then Indian personality knows that your attention is not to be fettered.

For example in India no body will boast of something wrong as like a theft, will anybody boast of that? But I have seen with my own eyes you wont believe , that in Paris there was a relay of a man who did a burglary in a big bank , see he burgled the whole bank and this fellow was on the TV and he was trying to show off as if he is a big hero , he was saying “yes I went there like this and I did like that” and he was explaining all this to the magistrate and while talking to the magistrate you saw it happening also with your own eyes because the TV was on him that he said how did you go to the window he just went to the window and jumped out and disappeared.

Now I was surprised that he is made a hero there, people wear, the children wear his photograph as a hero, can you imagine we wearing somebody’s thing as a hero who is a thug well known, who has taken away the money of the people who have put it there, the hard earned money of the people that’s what’s happening there.

Now we are also trying to develop ourselves, develop, we are getting sophisticated you see , so we may take to their ways may one day land up in the same situation where they do not recognize or realize , where have they gone , where have they reached. At that time I would say, that you must see that you must have your susanskaras and the susanskaras come to you by listening to people like Kabira and Nanaka, listening to people like Tukarama and Gyaneshwara but not extreme people who teach something of extreme. They were all married people, they all have led a very simple life. Gyaneshwara was not married he died very young and we have got the greatest thing is Adi Shankaracharaya, who has said it , that you reach a certain stage where you do not need anything but the grace of Mother, the grace is of Mother is only possible if you are a moderate person, if you are an extremist , you are away from Her and that’s how it does not work out.

Christ has said that a rich man cannot enter into the kingdom of God because he is an extremist. He said a camel can pass through the eye of a needle but a rich man cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Why He said so? Because they are extremes, they will go to wrong type of people , where they can purchase a guru, then they can show off their money or they can use the guru as the lesion officer or some sort of a thing like that gives them ego orientation. Among them there will be some, few, of course who will realize the futility of money and will come to God and I feel now the modern generation in the West is that type, are the saints born there, these are the saints born in that country who are seeking God but we have exported all our thugs from here and also we are trying to enjoy the money that they lavish on our gurus , because we think we are earning foreign exchange but this is the kamai of Adharma and unless and until we check this our country can never progress we are not to be soft on this point, this is the thugai of other nations.

They did it to us doesn’t matter but we shouldn’t do it if the whole world tries to cheat us doesn’t matter we should not cheat and we know for definite that this is cheating still we are soft on this point because we think that’s how we can earn foreign exchange, you don’t know with such a kamai what can happen to our country.

Now in Sahaja Yoga which is described by all the great saints, today the time has come for it to become a mahayoga. iIt has to has to become a mahayoga Gyaneshwara has described it , that a day will come that Sahaja will become maha, means you will have a mass realization, a mass thousands will get realization which I have seen happening in the villages, in a kadus village, there is a place called kadus near satara, where people gathered, they were about six thousand , above six thousand and there were news paper people also and all of them got self realization most surprisingly, all of them got their realization, its most surprising it sis going to happen in thousands especially in the villages because city people are westernized, difficult people . They think no end of themselves too much of ego , when I came here I found, the whole of Delhi is suffering from ego , tremendous ego the Aaagnya charkachakra. I had to ask people to take out their vibrations to put that down . I don’t know from where this kind of a myth is working, but we have to face ourselves as we are. We have to get ourselves corrected through Kundalini awakening.

Now this Sahaja Yoga is a spontaneous growth is a living growth, the Kundalini raises by it self and pierces the brahamarandra, as described by all these people, shunya shikhar par anhad baji re , it’s all described, I mean I don’t have to tell you because you do not read these things you see you just sing this is what they have said I am doing today, I am doing the job of Kabira, Nanaka, of Gyaneshwara, all the nathapanthis who have preached that you have to get your realization of Christ, of Mohammad of all these people put together , of Buddha, of Mahavira of all these people this work has to be finished today.

This is the time that has come Most surprising that in a place like England which I say you don’t consider to be very spiritual about hundred years back a great poet was born I must say he was very great because he was such a prophet and he has said that this mahayoga time is going to come, the most remarkable thing is that he has mentioned the place where I will was staying.

What’s the matter with you sir why don’t you sit down disturbing everybody else please sit down you shouldn’t do like, this you see you cannot come to this place and disturb is a question of your Kundalini I am trying to raise the Kundalini of the people and suddenly you shoot off there is no need to do it you see it’s a very delicate work its the Brahma Shakti and I have to take it through the brahaman nadi when I am talking its not talking I am raising your Kundalini and please don’t disturb if you have to go you should go before it is not a cinema its not a show, it is a living work, so please help Me don’t disturb each other please it’s a very serious thing and one has to understand ones own value that I am here to give you what is the most precious thing within you is your spirit , so please do not just walk off or because you are not entertained or something try to put your attention its not such a difficult subject I am telling you, but try to understand that this is a very important time if you have come here, it’s a great chance you better get your realization. As a mother I have to tell you that this is the thing you have been seeking.

I was talking about William Blake hundred years back he has written about this mahayoga he said that the men of God, the seekers, I am saying it’s a category seekers will become prophets they’ll get realization but these prophets, these prophets will have a special quality in them and what is the quality, that they will be transforming others into prophet state There will be many prophets which will be created on this earth.

But most surprising is that he has written it in such details that he has even mentioned the place where I lived. He said that the first peak that will be lit will be Surrey Hills where I lived first and about the ashram that we are having that Lambeth vale is the place where foundations will be laid in the ruins we bought a place which was all ruins to that extent he has said and he has said that London will be a Jerusalem , England will be a Jerusalem means [unclear] a kshetra means a pilgrimage. Imagine in hundred years back an Englishman has written about it ., that means its something is going to work out in that country, no doubt, but what about this great country of ours, which is a yoga bhoomi you are born in a yoga bhoomi do you know that you have a responsibility towards God where are you? Wasting your attention? The whole world is looking at you for guidance you are not interested, you are not bothered. Now people might say Mother if it is a yoga bhoomi why it’s a poor country it is better that it is poor than to be rich like these stupid people, abroad.

Krishna has said that yoga kshema vahamyaam first have the yoga and then the kshema. He didn’t say kshema yoga. He said yoga kshema first you must get yoga, you first get your realization then the kshema that is the way it looks nice, it glorifies you, in Hindi we can say rajta hai, other wise its odd, its funny, you look as if two horns have come out of you , you elect somebody as a member of parliament immediately you know he must be something the way is nose is the way he walks the way he talks brushing everyone.

Make him a minister, had it never see his face again The cursed man would go there it is like that a very good man can be ruined with power, a very good man can be ruined with money, you have seen people who get money suddenly they forget their parents , they forget their country, they forget about everything.

All kinds of horrible things done in the name of money. Bribery, corruption everything is done because we are not realized souls if you are realized souls you will not just do it at any cost all your efforts to improve honesty of this country is not possible unless and until you get your self realization through Kundalini awakening by which your transformation takes place and person develops his own personality then he has no such temptations and his whole being changes and he becomes samarth sa ma artha. He becomes the meaning of what he is he is, is no more misidentified with anything, he is not bothered and then the laxmi tattwa is also enlightened and his material problems also gets solved an extent not too much again you do not become a lakhopati because that’s foolishness and [unclear].

But you become so well off that you are absolutely satisfied with yourself with your material being and you do not ask for anything The whole thing changes completely when you are sitting before me you are asking then you are change your form you are here you are giving like the light when it is enlightened what does it do, it just gives light. Till it is enlightened it is the seeking once it gets the light it gives the light. Like all the great saints have done it, the only difference is that the saints were born at such a great height but whenever they talked nobody listened nobody recognized them everyone tortured them when they died we have big big organizations, big big religious cults and religious things and big big churches and temples and all things that we have built in their names when they died when they lived nobody bothered, nobody.

So today the time has come for you to get this absolute within you by which you will recognize the real and the unreal Not only that but your powers of your spirit will manifest by which you can do wonders and wonders about which I will tell you later on in other programs which you are going to have I hope you will continue to come and bring more people for it every time I try to raise your Kundalini and try to establish.

After realization when the germination has taken place when the seed has sprouted you have to be careful at least for seven days you have to be really careful about it so that you do not get into your mess again and after that if you are you follow it properly there is a education you need for it The effort you may not need it before afterwards you have to little bit educate about yourself to understand what does the chakras mean where they go what are the points, where they catch, what diseases are caused by this, by what problems are caused by this, how to get rid of them all this knowledge you should have now we have you see her we have lots of beautiful people from Australia , England and from France and other places they all have got their realization and they have established it. Many people have got realization last time also we had people who got realization. I meet some of them on the street they say Mother “we are alright but the vibrations are lost”. We do not have the values its amulya it is invaluable that is one thing you must know you cannot pay for God.

It’s an insult, can you pay for your mother’s love? It’s an insult., all those who have erected huge building places taking money for God. Alright if you want to build a house you can build it call it ashram call it anything it’s a dead stuff but you cannot pay for your realization. You cannot pay for your realization that is one thing which is definite now what all the things happened to you I will tell you from tomorrow onwards and I am here for some time please little bit, try to have yourself esteem you are not ordinary people who were born in this country and that you have to achieve your depth if you when you go deep into it suddenly you will find that within you lies the great power of your punyas that you have achieved in last lives you have to just go up to that point for self realization and then your own depth you have seek once you get into it, you just get it you are there and you start manifesting it. You will become the guru yourself. You will know everything by yourself this is the promise of this mahayoga I hope Delhi people will understand it and all will be able to achieve their self realization in this visit of mine it is very important time is very important, it is very short I think and people have to realize it this is the last judgment that is being promised.

Only through Kundalini you are going to be judged otherwise there is no way out. This is the last judgment and don’t mess it the time is running short I am telling all the people that please be careful, bring all your friends tell all your people, get it for yourself and be established and enjoy the beauty of the spirit and enter into the kingdom of god who is your very very loving father who want to give you this.

May God bless you.

The Kundalini will rise by itself don’t believe in people who say that it cannot be done of course it cannot be done it’s a very difficult accepted but maybe I know the job very well or I have the authority perhaps my be and tomorrow you will have the authority to raise the Kundalini you all will have the same.

Haan aa raha hai naa ab aap jaa rahe thee haan, put your hands like this,don’t disturb others alright, please put just your hands now I would say that on collective being I find that your right side is over over active so you have to put it down first of all before doing anything else please put your left hands towards Me, left is frozen but right is put left hand towards Me like this, left only now you take from the left raise your right hand like this put it up on the head and put it this side throw it out again do it twice throw it away again do it thrice and throw it away four times and throw it away five times six time and seventh time … theek hai [Ok]

Now put your hands towards Me. It’s much better.

[Part translated from hindi:]

In this there is no questions and there is no answer. It happens when it has to happen, and it does not happen when it does not have to happen. There is no discussions about it. It is something which belongs to PARAMATMA. When it has to happen it will happen to whom it should happen and it happened today for the persons who were deserving. The people to whom it happened must understand that one should ask PARAMATMA for it.

In this you cannot fight. There is no fighting of any kind. By discussing you will no get it. This way you are only wasting the time, and there is no meaning in wasting the time.

Above all people, here don’t know anything about Kundalini, and that’s the big problem, because for you we have to start from the beginning. Like in Maharashtra, everybody knows where is the Kundalini!, what is the chakra? etc. They know who is Dattatreya!

But here people don’t know anything. It is very difficult job. So first you get your realisation, then I will explain. Like that in the room when you entered you were in the dark, so first put on the light, after we will discuss. Is it ok?

H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi