Radio Interview Brighton (England)

Radio Interview, Brighton (UK), 10 July 1981. Broadcaster: Now, a little while ago with John Gribbin, we were being conducted on a whistle-stop tour of the external universe, but now we hope to probe a little deeper.  A spiritual leader, who believes that every country in the world is linked to a particular part of the body, but who scorns religious gurus, who preaches that the essence of life lies within the [??SOUNDS LIKE evidual/Ovidual. Does he mean ‘individual’?] awakening yet [not sure here if the ‘comma’ comes before the “yet” or after, as meaning not clear] is extremely rich and married to a United Nations official.  Well, I dare say I am about to be told that these apparent contradictions are of my own making, but I am very pleased to welcome to the sounding studio The Mataji Nirmala Devi, together with a local practitioner of Sahaja Yoga She espouses – Ray Harris.  Now, he’s a Brighton geologist so we’ve got both sides of the spectrum and we’re very pleased to welcome you both to the studio. Now, perhaps I could start with You, Mother Mataji.  You’re an Indian, now what kind of following do You have at home? Shri Mataji: There are lots of people in the villages of India.  I work in the villages of India, not so much in the cities, and the villages are not yet touched by the superficialities and the pretensions of life so much.  People are very simple and it’s easy to Read More …

The System Within Brighton (England)

The System Within, Public Programmme, Brighton UK, 1981-0710 I must thank Kingsley [Flint] for giving such a nice introduction. When I went to Australia, people asked me, are your disciples all scholars? I said, they come from all walks of life, there are very few who could really be called scholars but I think after getting realisation, you being the complete knowledge, new venues open within you. You start knowing so many things, like when you enter in this room and it is absolutely dark, you can’t see anything. You don’t know much about it, you don’t know how to walk, where to walk, you may just stumble down, but if there is light, you know so many things suddenly and you are amazed at yourself that you have come to know so many things. Now this knowledge that you have, is not the knowledge that we read in the books. If I put my finger to this flame here, it will burn. Anybody who puts the finger to the flame, it will burn. Now this knowledge that the finger has to burn has come to us through our experience and is built within us. Everybody gets it without paying for it, without making any effort for it, it is built in within us. In the same way, we are so organised within ourselves, we are made within ourselves so well that if this happening which he told you about, the awakening of the Kundalini, if it takes place, it Read More …