Conversation in Ruth’s appartment, Rome, Italy, April the 26th, 1982 Shri Mataji: [to be convinced that] what we have to expect, what should happen to you, what Christ has said. Not what the churches are talking. What Christ has said, if you are a Catholic. Catholic means, I don’t know what you know of Catholic. What does it mean? New person: No, I was brought up as a Catholic. Shri Mataji: No, no, what I am saying, what is a Catholic, the word means? New person: What is a Catholic? Oh, the words itself, I don’t know. Shri Mataji: In our, in Sanskrit language, is called Samadhi, means something eternal. The ancient and eternal is Samadhi. So that is what is Catholic. And what do we expect, is what Christ has said, is/means Samadhi. So we should really sort it out first of all in our minds. It’s very much necessary. We should sort out what Christ has told, what are you to expect, what is the proof. New person: That’s my problem, because I’m already [having a OR agno], I am agnostic, [to the point of I don’t OR so I’m going to find and] verify, perhaps I believe in Christ as a man. Shri Mataji: Yes. Yes. All right. No, no but you see… New person: I don’t know if I believe in God. Shri Mataji: All right. All right. As a man also if you believe what has He told? What has He told? You see if Read More …