Conversation With Joseph At Lunch Madrid (Spain)

Conversation With Joseph At Lunch, Madrid (Spain)
[The seeker Joseph will be speaking in Spanish and a Sahaja Yogi will translate]
Shri Mataji: Hello.
Joseph (seeker) : Hello.
Shri Mataji: Yes, yes. You give him bandhan. Something or you give the booklet.
May God Bless You.
Shri Mataji: Just a minute. We’ll come, we’ll come. Now the second center of Swadishthan. Swadishthan, second center moves all over.
Shri Mataji: No, No. That is third center. You see the second center. […]

Morning meeting Madrid (Spain)

Conversation. Madrid (Spain), 3 June 1982.
See there is a difference between an incarnation and a realized soul. Now, incarnation among all these was Shirdi Sai Nath. Shirdi Sai Nath was. So only you must bow to an incarnation and not to somebody who is realized soul. You can tell. Later we can say at the time of Christ, John the Baptist was a realized soul only and Christ was an incarnation. And His mother was a Holy Ghost incarnation. […]