Mother Earth and Mahalakshmi Puja, Surbiton Ashram (England), 21 August 1983.
Some of you who cannot sit on the ground can bring some chairs from inside. You can get a chair for yourself. If you people cannot sit on the ground, go and get some chairs for yourselves. Sit down. (Shri Mataji speaks in Hindi)
Shri Mataji: Today, we have to know something about the connection of Sahaja Yoga with this Mother Earth. It is very important, that we must understand the value of the Mother Earth. She has been very kind to all of you. She has been sucking your vibrations. She has been – otherwise also, She has given you everything that you see around. So today, we have to understand the connection and the symbolic expression of the Mother Earth within ourselves. I’ve told you before also that Kundalini, which is in three and a half coils is placed within the triangular bone. Now this abode of the Kundalini is called as Mooladhara and is represented in the universe as this Mother Earth or in the puja it is represented as the Kumbha. I don’t know if you have made the Kumbha or not?
Sahaja Yogi: Yes Shri Mataji.
Shri Mataji: Have you? The Kumbha is sitting here
So far, in the movement of our consciousness, we have been trying to understand the God Almighty and all other five elements that we call as important.
Shri Mataji: What is it?
Sahaja Yogi: I think the mic is not working.
Shri Mataji: Ok. (Shri Mataji takes the mic in Her hand. Sahaja Yogis laugh.)
And also, the consciousness has been moving towards the understanding of all the other four elements but the Mother Earth. That had to be such, because unless and until the understanding of all these four other elements are brought to a certain degree, the Mother Earth cannot express itself. Like if all your chakras, four chakras, are caught up, you cannot raise the Kundalini, you cannot give Self Realisation. You cannot have a mass evolutionary process done. That’s why we had yAgnyas, all other methods of exciting the four elements. They worshipped the water and they worshipped air, the sky, the firmament – the light. And that’s how we came up to the time of Christ where light was worshipped.
But today when we are in this modern Sahaja Yoga, we are actually at the level of the Mother Earth, because as they say, it’s the age of the Aquarius. And Aquarius is the same as the Kumbha, is the Mother Earth. So we are at the level of the Mother Earth. We can also see in the consciousness of human beings. I’m saying not only men, but women also and men. The consciousness is moving more towards the feminine expression of life. But as stupid as human beings are, the feminists also have been very stupid that they are fighting on the level of rationality, of economics, of politics, all useless things. Equality on all these things if they are to be sought, you become men, you become just like men. If you are argumentative, if you are rational, if you talk like a man, it’s a masculine development. But the mother’s development, the feminine development, is not equality in the way the men have been stupid. No use competing with men in their stupidity, the amount of stupidity has been created already for us quite sufficiently.
The whole world is today, is expressing that nonsense that they had – the competition, the aggression, the oppression. So the other side of the woman, which was called as the dominated-one, the dark side, the oppressed, and all that, has to express itself in a different way, the whole mode, the style, has to change.
See now in Christianity one should understand why Christianity, even Judaism, any religion, even Hinduism and all that – but it’s more in Christianity, surprisingly they just had no place for Mary. And Muslims even crowned it by completely cancelling Fatima. And on top of that, you will see that among Christians, I think that ordination, or what you call that, is not given to the lad- to women, while Christ was not born of a man.
But that does not in any way mean that you compete with men in their foolish enterprises by which they have practically brought this world to such a ruinous state. So today we have to understand that it is the time for the motherly qualities to develop. Even a man, when he becomes motherly only, becomes a great man. Like Christ, when he had compassion, he was called as a great man. So the quality of a woman as a mother – Goddess is always as a mother and She is the power most important to ignite Sahaja Yoga. Now how She ignites? I’ll tell you. I’ll give you an analogy, but analogy should not be carried too far, as wise Sahaja Yogis you should not carry it too far.
Say there is a zero, it has no meaning. In the same way, God Almighty has no meaning till you put some sort of one or two before it. It’s a zero. It has an existence but it has no capacity or a power to express itself. So it’s a zero. Like that, we should say the masculine growth is a zero.
Another analogy I’ll give you to understand it. That if you should see, a very high power wires, you see, going over your head, they are absolutely harmless, there’s no trouble. In Delhi there was a suggestion that there is a very big plot of land available where there are high power wires are going and we can have it for free. But I asked, “What’s the problem?” They said , “Only if earth gets connected with that, then you will have problem.” So till these this high power thing, whatever it is – is not connected with the earth, it has no meaning at all.
But earth is very different from this dynamic power that is flowing through those wires which are zero, which mean nothing.
In the same way, in a woman, the womb of a woman is the Kundalini. Now what is a womb? Now if that is the Kundalini, that expresses the Kundalini in the gross, that means the Mother Earth is also like the womb. Now what does a womb do? It receives the sperm, which is just a frivolous act of man or you can say just aggression, and She then nourishes and looks after it, corrects it and allows it to grow, not in an aggressive way but in a very compassionate and a sensible way, till it is expelled out of the womb when it is grown up. So the idea of womb is that the expression has to be in such a manner that it does not dominate. It does not dominate the embryo. If it dominates, how can it grow? So it nourishes it and makes it grow. This is what today’s Sahaja Yoga is. That now the Mother Earth is the one, who is symbolised within you as the Mooladhara, as symbolised as the Adi Shakti here, is sitting down before you to nourish you, to make you grow into new personalities – into mature personality. This concept we must understand.
So the women of the West must understand that the nonsensical ideas they have taken from men must be completely discarded, they have to become women first. Those women, who just are talking like men, can never help in Sahaja Yoga. They have to be like this Mother Earth who allows you to do what you like with Her. I mean you human beings have been so stupid to exploit Her to the maximum. Not only that but also She bears lots of nonsense upon Herself. But then a time reaches where She becomes explosive, then She starts consuming people inside Herself. And when She consume people then you see the earthquakes and the droughts and this and that, all these things start coming in and people get engulfed into these problems which they blame Mother Earth for that. The problems that human beings have created out of aggressive nature – even aggression towards the Mother Earth, they have to pay dividend for that. And they are paying.
Now, to stop this kind of a movement of aggressiveness which brings all kinds of disturbances, one has to recede back and should develop a sense of totality of compassion. Unless and until you understand totality, the total the complete, the whole – that is the womb, that’s your Mother. As long as you try to be individualistic you cannot be a good Sahaja Yogi. You have to become one with the whole. Now we have to face ourselves for that, very important it is. Specially in the West, I would say we have to face ourselves very clearly – what are we up to? That’s a very important thing. First of all let us see where is our attention. Ask a question. We are Sahaja Yogis and Sahaja Yogis within our fold and I am sometimes surprised that even now the attention can be very funny. Like, simple thing, like we can have attention on material things, “this is mine, this is yours; that I should have my privacy. ” Then you are gone to another realm of aggressiveness. If you try to have your own privacy then you are depriving others of their privacy.
It was alright when you were not Sahaja Yogis, to have your privacy, because you have to grow in your privacy at that time. But after Sahaja Yoga you have to become one with everyone else – that is very important. Before Sahaja Yoga, you were different and after Sahaja Yoga you are different people. The whole concept must change after Sahaja Yoga, that now you have become one with the Whole and to feel that you are One with the Whole, you should try to give up all your individualistic attitudes. That’s very common now to hear “Yes, I like this, I like that.” It’s very common, “I like it.” Very common, but doesn’t behove a Sahaja Yogi to say such a thing. You see, how can I say that I like something? Think of a mother who has to bear the child, has to give birth to a child, has to look after the child, the needs of the child, protect the child, train the child. How can she say, “I like this and I like that”, where is the time? (Shri Mataji laughs) To think what you like and what you don’t like, “I like this food, I like that food.” Where is the time? Where is the energy left for that? Where is the attention? The attention is on the upbringing of the child.
Now in the same way, a Sahaja Yogi must know that the child within him is born: the Spirit. Spirit is the child which has been born within him, now he has to nourish it, through the Kundalini. He has to water it; he has to look after it. It has to make it grow. Now where is the time for other nonsensical things? You have a child in hand. You are all mothers looking after your child that’s your Spirit. So where do you have time for all these things? What attention should be, “what can I do to make this child happy, to make this child grow, to make this child completely manifest myself.” The mother replaces herself as soon as the child becomes a mature child. So now in you, the motherhood must take over than the fatherhood, motherhood towards yourself. The attitude should be like a mother towards the child, how her attention is towards the child. You can see in every day-to-day life how we behave. I have seen people very much interested even now, in food. Now where is the time? Where is the attention? How can you be so much worried about your food? Worried about your sleep, worried about your health, worried about this, that? I mean, here you are to worry about your child which you have got now with you. And that’s why the child is neglected and sometimes you find the child becomes sick or sometimes goes into a coma or may die away also.
So the situation is very different now for Sahaja Yogis, how to treat themselves. Those who are running after, still food and all these nonsensical things. I mean I’ve seen Sahaja Yogis, all their attention is on food all the time. How dedication can come in a person who is so much dedicated to food habits?
Like, we have seen, you might have also seen – some of you – Ajanta caves were built. In ten generations they built Ajanta caves – ten generations! And they built it in a place where there was not even water available – to begin with. And day in and day out thousands of people, without getting any payment, without getting anything, built it. No food, no question! They used to eat some fruits somewhere here, there. But their dedication gave them power to do it. But this dedication can only be developed if you realise that you have to mother your child. Now, if the mother is ugly, the child will be ugly too, because it is the mother who is expressed in the child. She does not dominate the child alright, but she definitely can corrupt the image of the child. And that’s what exactly happens when we, the Sahaja Yogis, are not bothered as to look after our Spirit and our spiritual growth.
Even now, you will be surprised, fifty percent people write letters to Me, “Mother I am still possessed, I’ve worked through lemons and chillies, I am coming to You for this and that.” It is a very low grade business I think, even after so many years, if you are possessed, then I think you should beat (shoebeat) yourself every day hundred and eight times. It’s a very low grade behaviour, I personally think, that after your Mother has worked so hard with you, still you are just the same, coming back with the horrible idea of bringing all kinds of problems to your Mother. That means you have not looked after your child.
Now in Sahaja Yoga, it’s not a child which is an individual child you have to look after. This is, one should understand. This is where we miss very much, especially by the intellectuals. They think it is their own child which should be alright, doesn’t matter about other’s children. Or, doesn’t matter if you have connection with others or not. It’s very common. Because, you know, rationality gives them that sense , “Oh! My Spirit is alright; my vibrations are alright, so it is alright if I do not go to puja, or if I do not go to any collective thing or if I do not support in any collective work or if I do not take any responsibility of Sahaja Yoga. ” Because once you become collective you take responsibility. So you are over-satisfied with yourself that , ” It’s good, that I need not take up any responsibility. All the Sahaja Yogis are bad, or some of them are bad. I have nothing to do with them and this is that and that and that. “
But in Sahaja Yoga, as it is, the motherhood is universal. Because if you are the nose, say, then somebody is the eye; if you are the ears, somebody is the lips. So, it is essential for you to understand that anybody who is a Sahaja Yogi is in trouble, you are in trouble. It’s threat to your growth, it is a threat to your growth, because it’s the whole that is growing. Of course, those who are absolutely useless will be thrown away, gradually. That’s what Mother does. They can be thrown away, absolutely, so much far away that they will never return. But you don’t have to worry about such people, they will be thrown away. They will be given some chances, some more credits will be given, some graces will be given, but ultimately they will be thrown away. So you don’t have to worry. But you must worry about the whole. And you have to take up the responsibility. Those who do not take up the responsibility are not the people who are not yet matured their child – that’s the Spirit.
Every type of responsibility that you can take, think of what responsibilities you can take up. That is why most of us have bad Vishuddhis, because we do not take the responsibilities. And whatever responsibility we do take we have to be much, much, much more responsible than ordinary government servants are.
Sometimes we hear from one ear and throw it away from the same – don’t even allow it to come into the head. So, one has to understand that the child is your responsibility, you have to look after the child. And the whole is also your responsibility.
Now, how to establish the connection between your Spirit or keep the connection on between the Spirit and the womb, or the Kundalini, is the biggest problem that we all face: that our connections are very loose and that’s why this Kundalini cannot look after the Spirit. I wonder if you have noticed one thing in Sahaja Yoga, that you can manoeuvre the Kundalini, but not the Spirit. You can raise your hand, the Kundalini will move. You can manoeuvre it. You can give it a bandhan, it will go round and round and round, but what about the Spirit? You cannot manoeuvre it. There is only one mantra to awaken the Spirit, in the sense that to please Him you have to say you are the Spirit. But you cannot manoeuvre it, you have to bring in Kundalini to look after it, you have to take Kundalini there, to the heart, so that this child which is the little offspring just now, has to be carefully developed and matured.
So on both the sides of men and women, we have to understand that if you are a man, and if you are a dominating man, it’s alright. But if you are a woman and if you are dominating, then it’s a difficult thing for Sahaja Yoga to cure you, because you have lost your quality of being a woman. At least you have to be a woman to begin with. If you are not even a woman, then what can you do with these third persons who are neither man nor woman? Now the men, when they are dominating, they have to understand, that they have to be compassionate. They have to be kind, they have to be considerate, but never subservient, never subservient. This is one should understand, that you should not be subservient. Now the women, what they have to be, is to be great, large, receptive, receiving and nourishing all that.
Now the way husbands are told sometimes in this West – I am shocked! Like say this Mr. X, “X, you haven’t done this. X, you haven’t done that.” “How have you put this?” “Do this, do that, do that!” This is not woman’s way to do it, it’s absolutely wrong that to do it, to tell him to do something. You are becoming a manly! And then we lose completely the power of giving that nourishment of a woman’s love, which is the power of a woman, which women don’t understand. I tell you a simple example: my own granddaughter, she wants to be an air hostess all the time, she wants. She said , “You must also have thought of being an air hostess.” I said , “Why? What is so great about air hostess?” She says , “That’s the only time you can give food to someone.”
You see, a natural instinct of a mother that “let me see them eat” you see. They don’t eat themselves, they want others to eat. But this is not in the conception of the Western women, I tell you. They can’t understand this. “Why? I’ve done this, so why not he does this, this? ” It’s your privilege to do these things properly, in a proper way. But supposing somebody is a very good mechanic, the woman will also become a mechanic, “I’ll do the mechanical things.” She is not there for doing mechanical work. She is there for the mechanics of the emotions. On the contrary she is just this the other way round. Like a man comes home; she goes on ordering him , “You have to put that right, why did you spoil my carpet? Why did you do this? Clean it up, get that thing, do that.” All his mechanics of emotions are finished. Once his mechanics of emotions are finished, he is useless and you are useless as it is! And men also should not do their jobs. Let them do their own jobs. I think this is one of the biggest problems of the West today that men are neither men, and women are not women. I find the quality so horrid, that I don’t know how to deal with the mixtures. You must understand this very simple thing in life that if you are a hybrid stuff, you can’t have the quality of a Sahaja Yogi! (Shri Mataji laughs) If you mix it up, it’s a very funny thing, isn’t it? So a woman must try to be a woman and a man must try to be a man.
Now see, what is the situation of a man, as a masculine effect on the development of consciousness? So, as the manliness was expressed, we have developed science. We have developed all this knowledge, all these things which are outside. Now everything is ready. Now the woman has to come up. I mean, I ‘m just saying in very abstract words, don’t think of woman, but you can say the feminine, feminine nature has to rise now. Now everything is ready, it has to just spark. All the chakras are ready, now awaken the Kundalini. Kundalini is as important as the other chakras are. So now awaken the Kundalini. Now Kundalini’s behaviour and mode of action is very different from the mode of action of the chakras.
If the Kundalini became the chakras and the chakras become the Kundalini, how will you manage Sahaja Yoga? But we must assume our own nature in all dignity and in all pride; not to feel in any way low down. Because a man sits on a horse, the woman wants to sit on a horse. What is the need for a woman to sit on a horse? I can’t understand. Here all the women are sitting on a horse. They’ll become like horses! Already I think half of your royal family looks like horses, don’t they? (Laugh) I think so. Their faces look like horses. See, so there is no need for women to do all the things that men have already done. Say, for example, there’s one personality of masculine personality, that has to come and do a certain job. Now you’ve done it. Alright. Now then other personality has to do the job. Now see the situation of the Divine also: Now the whole complication comes in that once a kind of a thing has been done, another one that comes wants to do the same.
Do you follow my point? So the whole energy is completely wasted.
The whole preparation has been made for this Aquarius age to come in to bring in the Kundalini upward and to make the whole thing work out in such a way that the left and right meet and you all become ignited, enlightened. It was a question of our being, sharing the whole job in a proper understanding.
Now see how Mother Earth herself was created. It’s also a very simple thing. First, the movement of the energy started flowing. Now this is a combined energy, alright? Then the combined energy went round and round and round like that, and when it consolidated there was this big bang. When big bang took place – now this is the manly work, I should say in a way, manly style, because still the Mother Earth is not produced – so then these little fragments again went round and round. With the momentum, they became roundish. Out of them, the Mother Earth was selected for one job -not to do anything, it kept quiet now, alright. On the Mother Earth out of the water came the life – the carbon came in. Everybody helped there and a human being was created. Then the men went round to improve their societies and whatever they have done to it, whatever was possible with their ego is done, finished now. Now they have done their job, you see. Now they are on dole, you can say.
Now the womb or we can say the Kundalini, which has been waiting all these years, was resting, waiting for that time, isn’t it? So we call it “the blossom time has come now.” At that time the Kundalini has to rise and ignite, in such a way that the completion of the whole work takes place. It’s simple, do you understand now? So there’s no competition between men or women, but the style of work is different. If you understand that, then only this kind of a revolution will take place and not a rebellion. Actually, women are rebelling against men, and a nonsense it is, I mean, it’s such a headache that you create something, allow them to grow, and the another party comes which has to complete the job starts rebelling. So the revolution has to take place and the revolution is only possible when we understand that what part is left out now to be done. Are you getting me alright?
So that part is now Realisation, our awakening of the Kundalini. For that your feminine qualities are going to help you, not your masculine qualities. So aggressiveness must be given up by men. Also, because they are Sahaja Yogis now, they have to take feminine qualities, not of fighting. If women fight they are not women. You see, women are told that, “You are useless, you are good for nothing”, so now they are trying to show, “No, we are also alright. If you have eaten one crow, we will eat three!” (Shri Mataji laughs) Now, the understanding and the wise perception would be such that, what do we have to do now to change the mode and the style of our lives? What’s wrong here?
A turning point has come. Now the evolution is not rebellion, at all by any chance. It’s a wrong idea people have. It’s not rebellion that you hit me and I hit you – go on hitting each other, like a pendulum you move, you see the movement of a pendulum. It’s not like a boom, this thing – that today you are born as a Muslim, tomorrow you are born as a Jew, then you are born as a Jew, then you are born as a Hindu, then you are born as- it’s not pendulum. It is spirally movement. So every time you achieve an evolution you are at a higher level than before, so the movement is spiral – see my point here?
Now to achieve the higher position in our whole being, what should we do? Is to understand that from this point to that point we have to rise – we have to rise in a way that we move in such a way that it is not in a pendulum way but in a spiral way. And to move spirally, you have to use another kind of force. Whatever you have used so far has to be endowed with another kind of force and that’s the feminine qualities of women.
But where are the feminine women? They’ll dress up like women, they’ll try to be feminine and all that. That’s not the way: from inside, from the heart, a feminine heart. Christ showed that in His life: He forgive. Only a woman can forgive, man cannot, because he is aggressive. How can he forgive? Krishna never forgave anyone. He used to kill. (Laughs. Shri Mataji moves Her right finger) Right royal fashion, “So, alright, if you are so? Alright, done.”
He forgave to such an extent to show that He is now giving a turn to the spiral and now a feminine quality has to be developed among human beings. But that doesn’t mean that you start walking like a woman or developing waistlines, because that’s another stupidity, you see. but to be motherly, not to be fatherly, but to be motherly. That kindness, that gentleness should be in your behaviour towards each other. Of course this force also corrects, sometimes also gets angry also. Mother also has to get angry sometimes, specially with people who never get alright with their behaviour, She has to be shouting, punishing, and sometimes She also destroys! It’s alright. But that is sometimes, not all the time.
So just now one has to accept that to be like the Mother Earth we have to be forbearing -dhara, dharaka sadharmand (Sanskrit: having the same nature of a bearer).
She is the sustenance of everything. She takes everything, the vibrations are sucked in, see talk about it. And now for the first time after Realisation, you can give Her back what you have got it, from Her. You can give vibrations to Her trees that are created, you can make them beautiful. You can transform a flower into a more beautiful flower. Now whatever you have got from the Mother Earth, you can give, because your Mother Earth is awakened within you now. So you return Her back everything that you got from Her and give it to others: generosity, the greatness of heart, nobility, forgiveness, love, affection, bearing, everything for love. And for a Mother, to save her child, she’ll starve herself, she’ll do everything to save her child – complete dedication, she has for her child. That’s a real Mother – I mean the kind of mothers you see these days, neither they are mothers nor women. But what I am saying, that’s the real image of a mother, and you have an image before you. So, this is what one has to develop now, whether you are men or women, as Sahaja Yogis you must develop a new consciousness of affection, love and compassion. Getting angry, getting into a temper, shouting at people, screaming at people, is not going to help us much.
If you have to help the whole, the growth of the whole, try to make yourself a milder person, be angry with yourself that you are losing tempers and you are so unkind to others. All the problems have come out of the overgrowth of the masculinity- overgrowth. It reaches a certain point, you see, it’s reached such a wretched point now, that it has to come down.
But also femininity, at a lower level, without Realisation could be very, very small hearted, chicken hearted, could be all the time worried about her own child. That’s what one has to change: is to have love and affection for every Sahaja Yogi, for every person. When it comes to fighting others, you are all one. But among yourselves you can look after each other, tell them – say for example, something is paining in my nose here, I will just try to rub it in the same way. But I won’t try to cut my nose, will I? Or bang my nose, I won’t. So the feeling that the other is myself, be kind and gentle, try to improve and help in that manner. I hope you have understood the whole thing. In a nutshell is that: we have to change the whole mode, a radical change has come in the society of Sahaja Yogis.
If there is any question you ask me before we start the puja.
Now the problem of divorce and all that you can see in this.
Left Nabhi problem can be fought.
Shri Mataji: Any question?
Sahaja Yogi: Is it alright to hurt people for their own good, Mother?
Shri Mataji: You see, this problem comes in when you are not the whole, alright?
Now supposing, as I told you, if you are the whole, who is the other? Then you will- even if you have to hurt -say, for example, if there is blood coming out of my thumb, I press it hard to stop the blood. It will hurt the thing, but the discrimination must be used, that I’m losing my blood which is precious, much more precious than this little hurt. But that discretion must be achieved. You see in Sahaja Yoga, you are all free to develop your sense of discretion. And once you develop your sense of discretion, gradually you will know what to do. In the beginning you will hurt, no doubt, because you are used to that. I’ve seen people here, just barking at each other, as soon as they see each other they start barking. You go anywhere in the whole country, you go anywhere, they start barking for nothing at all. I was surprised. In a Pune, I went there, there also everybody is barking at each other, you know. Whether they are drunk or not drunk makes no difference – in the same state.
But after Realisation, you do say, because you feel concerned, you’re worried. But you say in such a way that you achieve the results. See my point? that is the criteria, that you should achieve the results. But, supposing a man has come for the first time, and you tell him that, “You are a bhoot .” Then naturally, he’ll be hurt. Very common. (Shri Mataji laughs)
First day, someone walks in and you say, “You are a bhoot.” I mean thank God if he does not understand the meaning of the word “bhoot”, then it’s alright. (Shri Mataji laughs)
But first you think of being gentle, right, embalming, sweet. Let’s see, find out ways and methods. Is a very good way, is the evening to write down how many sweet things I’ve said today. Not like these sweet things we say, “You’re looking beautiful” all that. Not the superficial ones that may pamper the ego. But they are so sweet, you know, things are. Let’s say, there’re some very good words, people say like, “Are you warm enough?” Very sweet way of asking a question. Then, it’s very simple but you can say like that. But it’s very difficult for people to say that even, I’ve seen. Looking after other’s comforts, if somebody is sitting, he wants a water, he is awkwardly sitting, you just go rush and give him the water. “Oh! That’s too much to expect” that , “Oh God! You gave water!”
“I’m not his servant.” Immediately the question comes into the head.
Little bit, trying to do something here and there, or sometimes thinking, going in the market, you find something, “Oh, let me take it for him.” Children do. I’ve seen children, all the time they think of their friends, what they can buy for others, “This is good for my friend, this is good for the- she’s very fond of things, she likes this.” All these little, little things, you know. Sometimes, even a small thing like early in the morning you get up, you find the another person is sleeping on one side, his blanket on the third side and his pillow on the fourth side. So you just put his head on the pillow and cover him with the blanket. That’s Mothers job.
Not out of fear, but out of sheer love. Like even, if it’s cold and buttons are open, you can button up a person, he’ll like it. It’s little, little things, you know. Women have very little sweet things which they do, which make men very happy. But now women have lost now that sense of it.
Not the fighting, but thinking of what sweet thing you can do for them. And also, sometimes, teasing is alright. Sometimes tickling is alright. But a kind of a sweet you see, rapport between each other; even the feeling, that we can do that, it’s a master’s job. It’s a master’s job you see. The one who is a master can do it, those who are not, will not be able to do like this. They will again come back to hurt. Ultimately, they’ll land up hurting or fighting or coming to blows. But those who are masters will be so beautifully doing the all job, that you see, it’s kind of a very sweet relationship, it’s called ‘madhurya’, without any lust, without any money-business and things, such sweet relationship it is. And the joy would be bubbling. All these perversions and all these things will drop off, but a very sweet relationship.
Alright? Even saying that you are feeling happy.
(Talk ends here.)
H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi