Seminar, Deer Park Farm, United States, 23/09/1983
[From subtitles]
Shri Mataji: Yeah, that’s a good idea.
Sahaja Yogi: Ok.
Shri Mataji: But you should have some accompaniment. There are people who can help. Sahaja Yogi: Maybe that fellow… Somebody brought a guitar? Somebody will brought a guitar?
Sahaja Yogi: [Ethian] you brought a guitar, right?
Sahaja Yogi: I think she should stand up and and do it because…
Sahaja Yogi: Stand up!
Shri Mataji: What you said? It will be better, isn’t? Somebody should accompany her.
Sahaja Yogi: She is going to sing English songs. Can you, can you not give her?
Shri Mataji: Come along!
Sahaja Yogi: No, I don’t know, I mean how many… Maybe Antonio or Steve can play with.
Shri Mataji: Antonio, where is he? Come along, bring your guitar, come along.
Sahaja Yogi: I, I don’t have. It’s actually his guitar at the moment.
Shri Mataji: Can you lend him your guitar?
Sahaja Yogi: No problem.
Shri Mataji: The problem solved. Come along.
Sahaja Yogi: Would you like the piano?
Shri Mataji: Just to hold the tune! [Hindi/Marathi] Just, just to hold the… You need not play if you just hold the… [unclear]
Sahaja Yogi: You will.
Shri Mataji: All right?
Sahaja Yogi: You will get the vibrations. Very good.
Sahaja Yogi: So, I guess I’ll just start…. and you can just come in whenever you want.
Shri Mataji: You best put your [glasses].
Sahaja Yogi: Oh, that’s nice!
Shri Mataji: Is it all right?
Sahaja Yogi: I think so.
Sahaja Yogi: This song is called “What is the power of heart” and… [unclear] there is still one more verse that it has to be inspired but I was… inspired by actually [a widow]…
Shri Mataji: It’s all right.
Sahaja Yogi: So, I’ll just start. Oh, so, the next one is called, this one is called “Lovers and neighbours and Mary’s best friends” and I don’t really want to say what this mean, except that it is a little bit too in the experimental stage.
Shri Mataji: What have you been doing in Boston, with your music? Let’s have something from the Boston people.
Sahaja Yogi: Well… we haven’t prepared anything yet, Mother.
Sahaja Yogi: He hasn’t prepared anything yet.
Sahaja Yogi: From Santa Cruz, Mother, Doug Nicely, whom you have met, has written a few songs, for you. and he would love to come and sing himself. And the next best thing was taping.
Sahaja Yogi: I don’t know if we a have good enough tape for play this to you. Exceptional this song – the first one – is the song about Realization, how he got his Realization, sort of romance, but still the essence is there; and it’s… and the next one is a devotional song, and there’s no words we can express. And the other one is a song written by Michael [Teashek] who is too shy to sing it, but he would sing it occasionally to Sahaja yogis, and so Doug can nicely sing it, exactly the way that Michael would sing it. So, we can get a table for him and play this. And the other side, he wrote a song about the Devi, is like in Mahabharata the battle of good and evil and he wrote this just before he got his Realization. And in this, the battle between good and evils was a huge slaughter and evil conquered good.
When he got his Self-realization, he knew it is wrong, he rewrote the end, added one more verse, one more verse.
Shri Mataji: Should we hear that?
Sahaja Yogi: Which side, Mother?
Shri Mataji: Let’s have before and after.
Are you alright, Doug?
Douglas: Yes, thank you, yes, Mother.
Shri Mataji: I would like to, I would like to meet all the new Sahaja Yogis who have come from New York or from Boston, in my room tomorrow morning, all right?
Sahaja Yogi: Mataji, the speakers are only in this room, so we open the doors, so you can hear it. Very fast.
Shri Mataji: What he is said?
Sahaja Yogi: He said that the speakers were in that room, Mother, so they play it, they have to play it from in there but, they’ll open the doors, so you can hear it.
Shri Mataji: About videos?
Sahaja Yogi: The voice will come in from that room to this room.
Shri Mataji: Why?
Sahaja Yogi: Because the speakers are there.
Shri Mataji: How could they done [unclear]
Sahaja Yogi: [unclear] can.
Shri Mataji: [unclear]. You see, for breakfast we can have it. [unclear]. We’ll have it tomorrow at lunch then, we’ll all be sitting here.
Sahaja Yogi: Yes, yes.
Shri Mataji: That would be better.
So, let’s have something from Boston!
Sahaja Yogi: Yeah, yeah. Come on Michael!
Shri Mataji: I said tomorrow we can hear.
Sahaja Yogi: Seems to be that way, Mother.
Shri Mataji: After lunch.
Sahaja Yogi: We come here again together.
Shri Mataji: Take this [unclear].
Sahaja Yogi: All right, I’ll just be, have to be very spontaneous.
Shri Mataji: Better.
You want somebody else to join you?
Sahaja Yogi: Well, Christine had a flute. That will be good, I think.
Shri Mataji: Christine come along.
Sahaja Yogi: Mother, I didn’t bring it. I didn’t bring my instrument.
Shri Mataji: What is here? [You all are good].
You are all going to sing, all right?
Sahaja Yogi: We can do the whole… “He’s got the hole world in…”, “She’s got the hole world in Her…”
Shri Mataji: Come along with it. What is it?
Sahaja Yogi: That one that they sang for you in New York, Mother: “She’s got the whole world…
Shri Mataji: Yes, all of you, come along, join them. Hello, come here! All of you. Come along! Sit down. Come, come! Call all the children!
Where are they gone?
Sahaja Yogi: Oh yes, Christine, you should sing, too.
Shri Mataji: Which one? [Poppin?]
Sahaja Yogi: No, Christine. Come up here Christine, come on!
Shri Mataji: Come along, come along! Where is My purse?
Sahaja Yogi: Christine has it.
Shri Mataji: No, no, this you have it, I think.
Smaller one, please. I just need my handkerchief. Yes! Gregoire is going to sing.
Sahaja Yogi: Too high?
Shri Mataji: Natalie, you also sing?
Sahaja Yogi: Oh, yes.
Shri Mataji: You represent the whole of Italy here, you know? No Italian has come, so you are the one representing the whole of Italy. Ruth has written a letter of great apologies that she’s the one who could not come, from Italy, so now we have [Sawan].
Loudspeaker you can connect. It’s better?
Beautiful. Beautiful. Now which one you know, the another one?
Sahaja Yogi: [You are the Lord].
Shri Mataji: No?
Sahaja Yogi: Shri Mataji, [Gondhari].
Shri Mataji: Jerusalem.
Sahaja Yogi: Herman is there.
Shri Mataji: Who? Herman, Herman.
Da. Herman. He’s, he’s a soprano?
Sahaja Yogi: Now, is same, same this wants to be for you the other day…
Shri Mataji: [unclear]? It’s all right, you stay here.
Sahaja Yogi: I don’t want. [Send the car].
Shri Mataji: May God bless you!
Sahaja Yogi: Are you ready with it?
Sahaja Yogi: Can, can hear it?
Sahaja Yogi: O.k.
Sahaja Yogi: If not, maybe at nearby the court.
Sahaja Yogi: Yeah.
Sahaja Yogi: Why don’t you ask Antonio play the cord? I think you may be able to play the cord and, and keep the rhythm. Why don’t you go over with the song?
Shri Mataji: [unclear] It’s good. [unclear] your breathing? So, hold your breath after that. [unclear]…
Hold your breath [unclear]. Better now? Better?
Very good voice. Now, who else?
Sahaja Yogi: Nancy, Nancy is the singer in next song.
Shri Mataji: Nancy, are you?
Sahaja Yogi: Yes.
Shri Mataji: All right, come along, let’s have it.
Sahaja Yogi: We all have [prepared].
We in the ashram have a small…
Shri Mataji: All right.
Sahaja Yogi: Song. Prepared somewhat for You.
Shri Mataji: Thank you very much for playing the piano so well.
Sahaja Yogi: Mother, we’d like to sing a song which I think a lot of people probably know so they should joint in, because we probably don’t know it so well.
Shri Mataji: All right.
Sahaja Yogi: We could, we could sing ‘Oh, when the saints go marching in’, after all.
Shri Mataji: [unclear].
Sahaja Yogi: Well, this will do, anyway.
Shri Mataji: That one from William Blake*?
Jerusalem. Vivid you also sing? Come along, join them. Come along. Christine is very good. Christine has a good voice. Christine, come along. She has a very beautiful… After Realization, her voice became so melodious [unclear]. Otherwise, she was… no good. That’s a fact.
What about you, [Fritz]? Play that.
Sahaja Yogi: Mother, I will do…
Shri Mataji: Why not try? Yes, try. You must play in my presence. So, you’ll play very well later on. All right? That’s a promise. That’s a promise to you also.
Sahaja Yogi: We could sing the song of fewer words…
Shri Mataji: What about… Esther, you also sing. All of you who sing should come forward.
Sahaja Yogi: Do you know the song, “You are my Father, You are my Mother?
Sahaja Yogi: No, sorry.
Sahaja Yogi: You are my Father, You are my Mother You are my God, You are my friend, [unclear]
Sahaja Yogi: That’s it!
Sahaj Yogi: Nancy has a song, Mother.
Sahaja Yogi: I don’t want to play… This is from… a play that started years ago. It’s called… God’s spell.
Sahaja Yogi: God’s spell.
Sahaja Yogi: God’s spell.
Sahaja Yogi: You probably have renamed it Nirmala.
It’s a musical…
Sahaja Yogi: God’s spell. The spell of God.
Sahaja Yogi: I love that one.
Sahaja Yogi: Yes, everybody.
C: I know that one! I don’t know.
Shri Mataji: Does he see? Does he see? The little one, does he see? No?
Which other song you know? Your father is a great singer. What about you having another song?
C: I don’t know.
Shri Mataji: Don’t know any? Your father didn’t teach you any song? Now, which one now?
Sahaja Yogi: And doctor Worlikar?
[Conversation in Hindi or Marathi].
Shri Mataji: Must say a little Ganesh.
Sahaja Yogi: All right. I’m going to sing for Mother a…
Shri Mataji: Just see. You see, the tune you get, so get… just, you see, first play the tune.
Sahaja Yogi: This is, this is a raga, Indian raga, Yaman. OK? I’m going to sing for Mother, a Lord Ganesha song, which is a…
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi].
Sahaja Yogi: Sa, Re, Ga, Ma. Fourth note, C, start from C, D, C, D, E, F.
Shri Mataji: Play, play the whole thing. Whole play – all the seven notes?
Sahaja Yogi: Yeah.
Can you play Ni, Pa, Sa, Re, Sa, Sa. As, as known as Yaman, the combination of notes in a particular way is done in Indian ragas – this combination of notes is known as Yaman.
[Conversation in Hindi or Marathi].
Ni, Pa, Pa, Re, Sa, Sa. That’s, that’s the…
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi].
Sahaja Yogi: You have to take the upper one.
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi]. Play the first note, first of all. Play the first note.
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi].
Sahaja Yogi: Not yet.
Sahaja Yogi: [In Hindi or Marathi].
Sahaja Yogi: Maybe this one.
Sahaja Yogi: Still lower. You have to…
Sahaja Yogi: [unclear]
Sahaja Yogi: Is too. [Not per pitch, you are taking up per pitch]. About this sign, left hand sign.
Sahaja Yogi: Sing it, sing it again.
Shri Mataji: Do the first note – you play… Ah, the sing is all right.
[Conversation in Hindi or Marathi].
Let’s play the first note. Sa, Sa, [In Hindi or Marathi].
Shri Mataji: Sa, Sa is the first note.
Correct, correct. First note is Sa, Sa.
Sahaja Yogi: So we are going to try, o.k.? So the combination of notes is known as Yaman and as called…
Shri Mataji: Melody.
The name of the melody is Yaman. And the, it is played about from six to eight o’clock. So, rather late, but doesn’t matter.
Sahaja Yogi: Right.
Sahaja Yogi: Maybe L.A. time.
Shri Mataji: Composition it is a Ganesha Stuti, because that’s why we can play it any time.
Sahaja Yogi: Right… For the Lord Ganesha. Sahaja Yogi: The notes go like that.
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi].
Malkauns.
Sahaja Yogi: Mother.
Shri Mataji: Yes.
Sahaja Yogi: Would you sing to us?
Shri Mataji: After speaking for now two months continuously, this throat now cannot even speak even don’t sing. None of it. I will sing with you.
Sahaja Yogi: All right I will sing the, this is known as the melody for Malkauns. The Mother wants me to sing the Malkauns so…
Shri Mataji: At this time Malkauns is the right.
Sahaja Yogi: Right, yeah.
Shri Mataji: Where you don’t use the Pa. Sa, Pa, Sa – fifth, fifth note you miss, you see. And, and the Ma is between… the… What’s look? Sa, Ni, Ga, Sa, Sa,
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi]. Indian music…
Sahaja Yogi: That’s, that’s Malkauns.
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi].
Sahaja Yogi: What is working here? Shri Mataji: Play, play your [unclear]. Shri Mataji: All right. Sahaja Yogi: Sa, Ni, Ga, Sa, Sa
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi]. Correct.
Shri Mataji: No, no. Ma, Ma is the [unclear]… Ma is the, not the normal, another [In Hindi or Marathi]. You got something for my throat?
Sahaja Yogi: Yes, Mother, I have.
Sahaja Yogi: But this classical raga [unclear] very good.
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi]. I think, distribute for everyone. They sent a complete box.. Sahaja Yogi: You, you want some cloves, Mother? Shri Mataji: Yes, that’s the best. [In Hindi or Marathi].
You become a regular Indian now.
Sahaja Yogi: Yeah.
Shri Mataji: Now, they are already Indians.
Sahaja Yogi: [In Hindi or Marathi].
Sahaja Yogi: This is good for the throat – it’s a bindi.
[Conversation in Hindi or Marathi].
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi]. Kalavati he’ll sing.
[Conversation in Hindi or Marathi].
Sahaja Yogi: Abira gulala.
Shri Mataji: This raga is for five notes, you see, only with five notes. This is raga is used also in Japan, I found with five notes, I mean we have any combination and permutation and they use both.
Sahaja Yogi: Even here in the United States, You use five notes.
Shri Mataji: Yes.
Sahaja Yogi: So [unclear] goes like… On this raga there is a very nice bhajan. I’m going to sing that bhajan for you.
Shri Mataji: Bhajan is a praise of God.
Sahaja Yogi: Yeah. It’s a very good song. [In Hindi or Marathi].
Shri Mataji: You know, this is very, very sweet that, in the, in the house of the Nath, means the primordial master, is dancing Shri Krishna. Pandurang is Shri Krishna and how can we, the… simple people entering inside the house, only at the,
[Conversation in Hindi or Marathi].
Shri Mataji: Threshold, on the threshold of the house. We just get so detached, that we start dancing there at the threshold only, because we are… not able to see them. Is that’s how it is, all the description of the dance. [In Hindi or Marathi].
And the another one is that you know there is Nira river, where I have taken the land for you, people, that meets the Bhima river, and both have them join together become Chandrabhaga. And then they go, and then they go to, Chandrabhaga goes to Pandharpur and at Pandharpur… Yes! And at Pandharpur this people join and sing this song. So they are saying that at that river, we take our bath, when the dance is on, we are taking our bath, and we are singing and enjoying ourselves when the dance is on in the house of the Primordial Master.
Is a very good combination of the Primordial Master and Shri Krishna. That is Vishuddhi chakra, you see.
[Conversation in Hindi or Marathi].
Sahaja Yogi: On Kalavati raga, I will sing a bhajan for Lord Shiva. OK?
Shri Mataji: Kalavati.
Sahaja Yogi: Kalavati raga.
[Conversation in Hindi or Marathi].
The notes are: Sa, Ga, Pa, Da, Ni, Sa.
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi]. You all repeat, he says this… thing, [in Hindi or Marathi], see now, you can sing it.
Sahaja Yogi: Can you sing?
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi]. One by one. Is it too much?
Sahaja Yogi: It’s hard, Mother!
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi].
Sahaja Yogi: The emphases is on Mi. In this there is a… Then come back. Now let’s go from left to right. Shri Mataji: All right? This is the melody Kalavati. Sahaja Yogi: Kalavati raag. Sahaja Yogi: See, on the same thing. Bagirathi – name of the river. [In Hindi or Marathi]. Shri Mataji: Ganges.
Shri Mataji: All right? This raga is called Kalavati. Now, this is the last raaga… Sahaja Yogi: This us the last… Shri Mataji: It’s done to end up the classical. Then we’ll have another song from you. [In Hindi or Marathi]. Sahaja Yogi: [In Hindi or Marathi]. Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi]. Sahaja Yogi: [In Hindi or Marathi]. Sahaja Yogi: [In Hindi or Marathi]. Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi].
Sahaja Yogi: All right. This, this song I am going to sing is from raag Chandrakauns, and is one of the songs written for Lord Rama, Shri… the Shri Mataji: Rama. Sahaja Yogi: [In Hindi or Marathi]. The Marathi writter Gudi Madgulkar wrote a Geet Ramayan – the Ramayan was written in the form of songs and this is one of the songs when Bharat goes to Lord Rama and request Him to come back and Sita on the, on the throne, called throne, and Rama has gone for one last fourteen years and He cannot come back, so He, He gives him a farewell at the, at the bank of the river Ganges, with the tears in His eyes, and He, He explain to Bharat how much valuable it is to touch the feet of your own, own father. I mean, in our Indian customary we fall at the feet of mother and father – we consider them like Gods. So He explains – that’s the entire meaning of it. Shri Mataji: Means to follow the father desire, you see? Sahaja Yogi: Right, yes. Shri Mataji: Beautiful. Sahaja Yogi: [In Hindi or Marathi].
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi].
Sahaja Yogi: [In Hindi or Marathi].
Shri Mataji: You should sing one… Now, your Jerusalem, and then aarti… What else? Last, aarti.
Sahaja Yogi: Aarti last. Aarti the last.
Shri Mataji: Aarti the last. So, first you sing your songs.
Sahaja Yogi: We shall sing “Saints”, yes. Mother, we’ll try something. first – before Jerusalem. Where is…? Clement?
Sahaja Yogi: Yes.
Sahaja Yogi: Why don’t we sing “When the saints go marching in”? That’s it.
Sahaja Yogi: I don’t know that.
Sahaja Yogi: You don’t know it?
Sahaja Yogi: If everybody else does, he’ll know. Mother, the text is: “Oh, when the saints go marching in, I shall be one among them – I want to be one among them.”
Shri Mataji: Now, which one is next?
Sahaja Yogi: I can sing a song.
Shri Mataji: Yes, go ahead, go ahead!
Sahaja Yogi: Yes, go ahead! You see, I know so many songs but none of them us really… They are all… S
ahaja Yogi: Is better be good that one.
Sahaja Yogi: Next time you come for meeting, get prepared with an Indian song. You’ll have to sing, not of the…
Sahaja Yogi: [I’ll try] anyway.
It’s a love song, love song.
Sahaja Yogi: Good! Very good!
Shri Mataji: They don’t understand Italian. Let him translate.
Sahaja Yogi: Translate to Mother.
Sahaja Yogi: Oh, yes, translate.
Shri Mataji: Gregoire, come on.
Sahaja Yogi: I don’t, I don’t think, Mother I [can do it].
Shri Mataji: Why? Why can’t you?
Sahaja Yogi: I, I, I don’t think I follow the whole of this, Mother.
Shri Mataji: You don’t follow?
Sahaja Yogi: I, I think it’s all right, Mother, the music is very [deep]. Melodious.
Shri Mataji: You are supposed to be a master of Italian language. Sahaja Yogi: Yes, but [that song because it’s melodious].
Sahaja Yogi: Since it’s [unclear].
Sahaja Yogi: He sings very well.
Shri Mataji: What was it about?
Sahaja Yogi: That’s what I’m doing.
Sahaja Yogi: It’s a love song over, over…
Shri Mataji: I could see that. It’s over a man that could not reach his beloved. and so he sings that he’s in in darkness, but that with a talk of his beloved he can sleep even out in the night. But that could be a pray to God also.
Sahaja Yogi: Yes, because I thought he’s singing [unclear] but as a grandchild [unclear].
Shri Mataji: Good idea. All My grandchildren want to marry Me, you’ll be surprised.
Sahaja Yogi: We can do one song more
Shri Mataji: All right, come along. This one is called “Lay Down Your Burden” and it was written by… Susan Osborn.
She sings with Paul Winter Consort.
Sahaja Yogi: Yes, hold the mike in your hand so you can… Yeah. Here, so he… It’s alright. Come here if you want. So he could tip you.
Sahaja Yogi: OK.
Sahaja Yogi: All right. Yeah.
Sahaja Yogi: I just sing, I just sing one line, Mother, may I?
Sahaja Yogi: What?
Sahaja Yogi: But we don’t know it all.
Sahaja Yogi: I know it. Brian knows it.
Sahaja Yogi: No, he doesn’t. What she wants to sing?
Sahaja Yogi: OK, then you sing it.
Sahaja Yogi: [Sings ‘Lord of the dance’]
“Dance, dance, wherever you may be, I am the Lord of the Dance, said He. And I’ll lead you all wherever you may be, And I’ll lead you all in the dance, said He.
I danced in the morning when the world was begun, I danced in the moon and the stars and the sun, I came down from heaven and I danced on the earth. At Bethlehem I had My birth.
Dance, dance, wherever you may be, I am the Lord of the Dance, said He. And I’ll lead you all wherever you may be, And I’ll lead you all in the dance, said He.
I danced for the scribes and the Pharisees, But they would not dance and they would not follow me, I danced for the fishermen, for James and John, They came to Me and the dance went on.
Dance, dance, wherever you may be, I am the Lord of the Dance, said He. And I’ll lead you all wherever you may be, And I’ll lead you all in the dance, said He.
I dance in the morning when the sky turns black, Is hard to dance with the devil on your back They buried my body and they thought I’m gone, But I’m the Lord of the dance and I still go on.
Dance, dance, wherever you may be, I am the Lord of the Dance, said He. And I’ll lead you all wherever you may be, And I’ll lead you all in the dance, said He.
Dance, dance, wherever you may be, I am the Lord of the Dance, said He. And I’ll lead you all wherever you may be, And I’ll lead you all in the dance, said He.”
Sahaja Yogi: Shri Mataji in, I don’t know whether is being written in India or in Europe or maybe both, but I think in India they’ve written a new aarti for You.
Shri Mataji: Is it so?
Sahaja Yogi: And obviously, for the verse, I don’t, I will sing of chorus, but I don’t know the verses yet, because is brand new one. It’s, it’s the same as Sab.ko dua dena but it’s a little… It’s a new one.
Sahaja Yogi: Warming, warning [unclear].
Shri Mataji: So, let’s have it! Shri Mataji: Wow, beautiful.
Sahaja Yogi: So, shall we sing it together? Just sing it over there?
Sahaja Yogi: Right!
Sahaja Yogi: Jay, jay Nirmala Ma, Jay Nirmala Ma, Adi Shakti Mataji, Moksha pradayni Ma, Jay, jay Nirmala Ma. Shri Mataji: Moksha pradayni – the giver of the moksha, of the liberation. Let’s, let’s do it without… don’t take it to long.
Shri Mataji: Beautiful. Who has done that?
Sahaja Yogi: I think it might be Moreshwar, Mother.
Sahaja Yogi: But it has the whole seven verses
Shri Mataji: Finished?
Sahaja Yogi: Seven verses. That’s only in the [unclear].
Sahaja Yogi: If he’ll transfer, already in the first they’ll jump the gun and then they gather together.
Shri Mataji: Oh, they sing Marathi ones very well. Yes, France people. Nobody has come from France. The ways they are now becoming experts in Marathi music.
Sahaja Yogi: Yes?
Shri Mataji: Oh, waw, waw! Aamhi Bhi Ghadalo Tumi Bhi Ghadana.
Sahaja Yogi: That’s nice.
Sahaja Yogi: Yes.
Can we sing it now to you Mother?
Sahaja Yogi: Aamhi Bhi Ghadalo Tumi Bhi Ghadana.
Sahaja Yogi: What’s they sing?
Sahaja Yogi: What? What? They all sing in group.
Shri Mataji: Matajinchya sange mule bi ghadali I used to sing a lot but I’ve given My throat to the talking, I think.
Sahaja Yogi: Mother, I’d like to sing you a song that…
Shri Mataji: You would?
Sahaja Yogi: Yes, he is..
Shri Mataji: That’s great!
Sahaja Yogi: I was, I was little worried because I feel that my Vishuddhi has been clearing out too quickly today. I’ll do the best I can.
Shri Mataji: All right. You sing I’ll give you a very good Vishuddhi, all right? That’s the present.
Sahaja Yogi: This is a song I wrote. It’s about, about weddings and how I feel about marriage. And I wrote up on my own marriage, and I feel it applies for all weddings and…
Shri Mataji: That’s great. Good celebration. Very good. Now your voice is good?
You must put some heated butter in the nose, all of you.
Sahaja Yogi: In the… inside?
Shri Mataji: Inside. With a, with a dropper, all right? Heat, heat butter and sieve it out. And then, when it is slightly warm, not very warm, absolutely slightly warm, then put it in Vishuddhi. It’s very important. Because the, I don’t know in this country people, is a very simple thing to be done. Once in a while, about say, two-three days later or even every day, doesn’t matter. It’s like putting cream on your hands, you see, because the cold weather, also chops inside the lining of the nose and when you put this it makes a… nose smooth, and you don’t get troubles of it.
It’s very simple. All of you should do, all the Sahaja Yogis are supposed to do. There are so many things Sahaja Yogis are supposed to do – one of them is this – that try to keep your Hamsa chakra all right. By keeping your nose all right, you keep your Hamsa chakra better. So, better use this simple method of heating some ghee, we call it. You see, you can prepare it heated butter, keep it in a bottle with a dropper and heat it in the hot water. And then put it in the nose. Just like that, in the night, before sleeping. Even in the ears, you must put olive oil – is very important. For the teeth also, you must take some salt, put some olive oil, and rub your gums.
With that, you won’t have to go to the dentist anymore. That’s the best. I’ve never been to a dentist all My life and I don’t want you to go to dentist anymore. So that’s a very good way of rubbing your gums with vibrated salt and what you call, the olive oil. Also, you must oil your heads, every Saturday, with so much of oil, nicely. Oil it, massage you head and sleep off and next day wash off your head. You feel very much better. If any of you cannot get olive oil, the best is almond oil for the head. Keeps you very peaceful. Especially your children, you must massage them till they are five years of age, every night, when they go off to sleep, in the night.
Nicely, very, for before sleep. And then put some powder clean it out and let them sleep. Then the children won’t be running and upset and all that. They’ll become very quiet children, well behave children. Because you people don’t massage the children all their lives, they are jumping. And all their lives, they’re likely violent. You see, this is the nerves must be soothed down. A very simple method and as you are Realised people, you sooth them much more. All these small, small things must be taken care of, you see. Now if you have too much of cold, if you have too much of cold, then you can mix up little camphor, with oil and put that in the nose – little I said, not much.
That also is very good. That also soothes your cold and puts you right. This country has one big problem: is Vishuddhi chakra everywhere in the West – because of the cold. And in Sahaja Yoga it is compulsory that you must wear an undershirt. It is compulsory. Whatever may be – it is hot, cold, anything. In India even when extremely hot, you must wear an undershirt because when it is very hot you start perspiring and that perspiration causes problems. So, always wear an undershirt whether you are in a hot season or a cold season. That’s a compulsion for Sahaja Yogis, that they must wear. And for all of them also is compulsory that they should always wear a muffler when they go out during winter time – it is an important thing.
And also put some these cotton wools in the ears, as I put it. For your sake I have to put it, because you are careless. So, I look after you by putting into My ears like this. So, you all should put it before going out. And keep your head covered in the night – when you sleep cover your head with something and then sleep. Because most of the time your body is all covered but the head is not covered. Because now you are realized souls, and your Sahasrara is weak. So, you must look after your Sahasrara. Cover you head, so that you won’t have any problem. Also, you must verify what sort of a person you are.
If you have a liver problem, then you get a diet for that, which is here – people will tell you. If you left sided person, if you have left sided problem then you must know about the diet – what you have to take. For example, a person who’s a left sided should not take carbohydrates at all. On the contrary, should eat proteins in whatever form it is possible. In Sahaja Yoga, you know, we don’t believe in vegetarianism or anything but we do believe that the muscles of the bigger animals than us are not good for our teeth, or for our body also because the structure of a muscular cell of a bigger animal is much bigger than ours.
And that’s how they eat up. I mean even by mistake if I eat something or anybody asked Me the other day – behind My teeth were swollen up. So that’s what it happens. It is an automatic reaction. And we are not supposed to use plastics in our clothes.
Also try to avoid – some percentage of plastic we may use, but not all the time plastics and nylons. And also, the food should not be eaten in plastics. You can eat it in paper – paper is all right, because it is – what you call – is good, doesn’t matter. But you shouldn’t eat in plastic, food, plastic with forks and spoons of plastic and… It’s too much plastic in this country. So, be careful because plastic is anti-God, it is anti-human life, it is anti-biological processes. So, avoid plastics as far as possible. Be careful on that and also don’t use made something out of absolute plastic. Like I’ve seen, I wanted to buy one pair of slippers for Myself – I couldn’t get one in the whole of Europe. Because I didn’t want a plastic.
And if you wear that, then you develop all kinds of skin troubles, skin diseases – so be careful on that. There are so many other things we are to be careful about, and because we have found out that these things that are harmful that’s why we have made it compulsory: that every one of you must be careful. Because now you are become the temple of God. And the temple of God should be healthy. We don’t want tubercular patients to go around as saints. Nobody is going to believe them. Sahaja Yogi: You just tell them about sugar. Shri Mataji: Now there’s another falsehood about – thank God is now broken – that the sugar is against our… growth and all that. Sugar is very important for attention. Especially people who suffer from liver.
For example, people who are thin, mostly suffer from liver trouble. For them sugar is so important that if they don’t take sugar, they’ll become like the sugar cane which has come out of the machine, pressing machine, you see? Better take some sugar. Sugar is very important for your liver. Best carbohydrate is white sugar, not the red sugar. Red sugar is not good because it has got molasses – it’s very heating. Some people have funny ideas here also about food. Like some of them believe that if you eat natural food – once I got something from natural store and I got diarrhea for five days. Because it was meant for animals not for the… human beings. Like some people eat, what you call them, [In Hindi or Marathi]. Cotton seed!
Now, cotton seed we give only to animals, you can’t believe even. But I’ve seen in Switzerland, they give cotton seed in the bread. There was cotton seed in the bread. One or two is all right, but imagine, [In Hindi or Marathi]. We can give it to buffaloes only. And that was given and you get diarrhea with it. You see, this’s a very strong thing. In the same way, very soft food is also not good. We have to be in the centre in everything.
Don’t eat very rough food, you see like… some of the bread in France, you know, even in England we find, it breaks your gums completely. So that kind of a crispy stuff not need it. It should be such that your gums are looked after – they are delicate things and have food which is good for you. Don’t go with nationality, don’t go with the fashion but whatever is good for you that should be done. And you find out about yourself, what is your temperament, what sort of a food will soothe you and accordingly you should eat. Of course, everybody is free to do what they like but we can only advise them that this will soothe you, and you’ll find it will be very helpful to all of you. It will help you. For your hair growth, also you should get vibrated oil and use it. Now, you’ll be surprised the other day somebody saw Warren and he said, “This is the same fellow? Looks much younger.
So, I said, “Yes, he had a baldness from here to here, like that. And now he’s grown hair. With proper care, you can have your hair quite intact for quite some time – if you look after your hair. But hair is why important, is not so much look, but the Sahasrara. And if you put oil in your Sahasrara every week, you will have a smooth personality, a smooth behaviour, a smooth movement, you’ll deal with other people in a gentle manner. So this is very necessary. In India we actually have a big masseur attached to a family, see – is a very hefty fellow. And he comes to massage the men, you see, he just sits on their body and really finishes them off completely. At the first shot they are dead. Then he uses their body fully and push it and sits on them and rubs them.
With the, one clap – you see, five, six of them will be jumping on five, six people – with clap, they’ll go round. By the time the second job comes in the person is finished. That’s how they manage. But that, there’s no importance of massaging here, you see. And don’t ask a non Sahaja Yogi to massage you. Never. Don’t allow anybody to touch you that way. Because, you see, these people carry all bad vibrations and you may suffer. You must allow only the realized souls to massage you, if possible, or you, yourself should massage yourself. But don’t go to this masseurs and people who are massaging all kinds of people and they might be given you some troubles.
So, one has to be very careful about certain things and certain person habits also, which we have discussed. And you can ask Warren, he will tell you about it, which are very important for Mooladhara and all those things, which must be followed, whether you are in England, America, anywhere. This must be followed to keep yourself clean outside and inside. Now, if you have any questions?
Sahaja Yogi: I was only wondering, Mataji, any kind of technique that we should do when massaging the children? But I guess that [unclear].
Shri Mataji: I mean any way you use is all right, but always put it a upwards, you see, The movement should be upward but use oil, otherwise you pull out their hair. So, use oil to put it up first.
Sahaja Yogi: And don’t forget the Sahasrara.
Shri Mataji: Sahasrara don’t forget, Sahasrara you must put lot of oil on children.
Sahaja Yogi: Mother we’re going to a need more hairdressers, people who can cut hair for us, realized souls, because they have us touching on our Sahasrara with the haircut.
Shri Mataji: Yes, otherwise you can grow, what’s the harm?
Sahaja Yogi: We can grow our hair Mother?
Shri Mataji: Yes, here up to here you can grow and cut them round. See, you’ll look like a philosopher, quite impressive. But you should not be a funny looking person, or a jocular personality. That’s one thing very important, you see, you have not to adopt some funny methods, you see, like people have. Especially nowadays, the fashion is to dishevel you hair and keep them absolutely dishevelled. There is no need to…
Sahaja Yogi: Tell them to keep the hair out of the [unclear].
Sahaja Yogi: The hair must be off the forehead.
Shri Mataji: Yes! Should be kept back over the forehead. Don’t cover your forehead, or your eyes – never.
Sahaja Yogi: And also, the Agnya chakra will stay back.
Shri Mataji: Yes. You must keep it open, you see, always open. Parted. You must have a central part, if is possible, but keep the forehead open – it’s important. Keep the forehead open – it’s very good for others, you see, and don’t cover your eyes with any hair. Many people have a habit of allowing the hair to come on the eyes, and you’ll have squints.
Children also, never allow hair to come on their eyes. Then we have some things for the eyes also, what you call ‘Neetranjan’ – I don’t have now anything. But is a very good simple thing, cost you nothing, about [Neetranjan] is just ten-eleven rupee, meaning how much here? One tenth of a dollar. All right, they have some, they’ll give you, each is to be applied first very carefully If you are not use to it, it will little bit burn and the tears will start coming out of your eyes. It will clear your eyes. And you’ll be surprised with that, if you use it, you don’t develop these bags and things like that. And the water closes out – is very simple thing. And for soap also, try to use natural soaps. Better is – because here the soaps are such, that I don’t know what to say.
Sahaja Yogi: Palmolive, Mother. ‘Palmolive’ I think is about the only soap you can get here. Shri Mataji: Yes, that is good, Palmolive. It’s very good. Now, what else?
Sahaja Yogi: Jerusalem.
Sahaja Yogi: Mother, I have one question here.
Shri Mataji: Yes.
Sahaja Yogi: Another question. My son has [unclear] it’s fluid in the ears.
Sahaja Yogi: Her son gets fluid in the ears. What can he do?
Shri Mataji: All right, what you do it’s to take a little oil and heat with some cloves. Cloves? Sahaja Yogi: Cloves. S
hri Mataji: Cloves, cloves.
Sahaja Yogi: No, cloves.
Shri Mataji: Cloves. And let the oil be little bit cooled down. When is quite cooled down, not, should not be burning hot at all, but just warm – you can feel it – then put it in the ears.
Sahaja Yogi: Olive oil?
Shri Mataji: Olive oil is all right. But do it quite often. So, what happens, that the oil goes inside and the fluid comes out.
Sahaja Yogi: Mother, could you explain to them the significance of vibrated sugar and vibrated salt and that giving vibrations to these things. They don’t quite understand the significance of vibrating everything.
Shri Mataji: You see, because God has given you vibrations, the power is flowing through you now. The vibrations are there. So, whatever you get from outside is touched by so many people, so many people have created it and they haven’t got a good mind or maybe something wrong with them. Best thing is to give them a bandhan before eating.
Any food you eat, you must give the bandhan like this, three times, so your vibrations flow into the food and you get it sanctified. Or else, you can also use your hands for eating. If you have washed your hands then it’s all right. Or else, if you are taking the water, you can just put your hands – then it gets vibrated, then drink it.
Because, the thing is, the vibrations have starting flowing through your hands but still have not spread to your body fully.
Sahaja Yogi: When you are vibrating food, you can actually feel hot food emitting a cool breeze – it’s quite remarkable.
Shri Mataji: Even, even you’ll find cool breeze from a candle.
Sahaja Yogi: What’s this? It’s water or what? Yeah, water, and the other one is [unclear].
Sahaja Yogi: [In Hindi or Marathi].
Shri Mataji: What is this?
Sahaja Yogi: It’s water.
Shri Mataji: Is it cold.
Sahaja Yogi: Yes, it’s cold.
Shri Mataji: [In Hindi or Marathi]. Yes. So, now we’ll sing that Jerusalem.
Sahaja Yogi: Yes.
Shri Mataji: And then the aarti. One aarti he’ll sing of Dattatreya and then the aarti, our own. Sit down. Sit down. Stand up. All of you have to stand up. Come along, all of you stand up here. Looks very nice. The little children should be here. Sahaja Yogi: All the, all the children. All the children.
Sahaja Yogi: We stand up anywhere?
Shri Mataji: This side.
Sahaja Yogi: Over here?
Shri Mataji: Or there. There will be better.
Not near the microphone.
May God bless you all.
May God bless you all!
Now, tomorrow I would like to see the new people and doing the meditation here, new people, who have not been before to our any other programs.
Sahaja Yogi: Did you all hear that? Mother would like to see all the new people that have never been to any of the regular meditation programs before, to come here for the morning meditation and after the morning meditation She’ll see you all.
Shri Mataji: New York and Boston and anywhere, they are coming for the first time.
Sahaja Yogi: Those who are coming for the first time…