Year: 1985
Archives: 226
Shri Ganesha Puja: You Should be Prepared to Change Rome Ashram - Nirmala House, Rome (Italy)
Shri Ganesha Puja. Rome (Italy), 19 May 1985. It’s a great day for Me to come to Italy to celebrate Ganesha Puja. The nature which we see around is the blessing of the Ganesha only, because He is the one who prays to the Mother Earth that She should grant Her blessings upon human beings. It is He who moulds all the elements of the nature and moulds them to create life. As you call them, these are all carbohydrates. Now, the carbohydrates have got carbon and hydrogen. Carbon is coming from Shri Ganesh and hydrogen is coming from Mahakali. And that is how this universe is created in this beautiful way all around us. Now, these carbohydrates need oxygen, which is given to us by the Sun, by the right side. Thus, you know that in the night, these trees emit hydrogen and in the daytime they generate oxygen. This is all the trick of Shri Ganesha, who is sitting in between. Now, it is He who becomes the Sun. He ascends from the deep-down seat below the Kundalini, rises on the left-hand side of Mahakali, goes up and settles in the Surya, that is the Agnya. So Mahakali, which is the Primordial Energy, is absolutely transcended by Him. As the child of Mahakali, He’s absolutely dedicated and devoted to Her. And that is how He is the master of Mahakali power, Lord of [that power]. That means He is the Lord of the subconscious mind. He is the Lord of all the jadas. Jada, Read More …
La Grande Madre Che Conforta TV interview Rome (Italy)
La Grande Madre Che Conforta TV interview, Rome, Italy, 19-05-1985 [Interviewer speaks in Italian.] Translator of Interviewer: Shri Mataji, what is Sahaja Yoga? Shri Mataji: Sahaja means born with you. Saha is with and ja is born. It also means spontaneous. It’s a spontaneous happening of a living energy within you which gets awakened and unites you to the Divine. Now Sahaja Yoga is a happening as the epitome of the evolutionary process. We have become human beings but still we are not yet complete and absolute. We live in a relative world. This energy pierces through six centres, subtle centres, ultimately through the fontanelle bone area, and you receive your self-knowledge, your self-realisation, what we call the baptism is actualised. It is not an artificial baptism but actually you can feel the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost coming out of your head. Kundalini is the Mother, this power is the Holy Ghost within you which rises and gives you this final experience of the Spirit, which is very important, that everyone has to receive, every human being has to receive it. Translator: Is this kind of Yoga attainable by everybody, Shri Mataji? Shri Mataji: Of course, it is available to all the human beings, it has to be, because it is meant for human beings to rise to that level. Translator: So, are there not in this kind of Yoga some special exercises, practices, or is it meant for young people, old people, or both of them? Shri Read More …
Interview RAI TV Rome (Italy)
Interview RAI TV, Rome, Italy, 19-05-1985 Interviewer: What is the Kundalini? Shri Mataji: The kundalini is the power of pure desire in the triangular bone. All our desires are impure, because when the desires are fulfilled, we are not satisfied. Only desire which is pure is this one. When it ascends, then we know that the desire was to be one, to be united with the Divine Power which is All-pervading. Interviewer: [Question in Italian] Shri Mataji: One must understand that you cannot pay for Divine work because it is a living work. Like the seed, when it sprouts, you don’t pay any money to the Mother Earth. You see, it is a living work of the Divine. You can’t pay for it. The first thing is you should not pay for anything. Anybody who takes money in the name of Divine or lives on that in the name of Divine is sinful. Interviewer: Why you don’t have practical exercises, physical and all these things? Shri Mataji: No, no practical exercise is needed. It’s a living process, again. It’s a living process of the living energy. And for living process you don’t do any exercise. It has to work spontaneously. Sahaja means spontaneous. Interviewer: If there are no exercises and there is nothing to do. How is the Kundalini awakened? And if people don’t meet you. How can they get the Kundalini awakened? Shri Mataji: They meet Me somehow, now for on the television now there will be so many. Read More …
Musical Night, Evening Program, Eve of Shri Ganesha Puja Rome (Italy)
Musical Saturday’s night before Ganesha puja, in Rome, Italy, 18/05/1985 Transcript incompleteMusic and bhajans. 31:55Shri Mataji: And now, we must really thank Guido for organizing so beautifully the whole thing and his wife who’s working very hard here, and all the Italian Sahaja Yogis.[Applause]And in Milano must thank also Gulio, the way he organized, it was a beautiful thing and other people like Ernesto, and Adriana, who took so much interest in organizing and specially I must say about our Bolivian friend who’s name is rather difficult, but I know that!It’s very easy because if you “caviar” and you just put the “caviar” that’s all! Caviar who-and his wife- have really done so well, it’s remarkable.An now we are going to have a program also in Venice, were I’m sure, Vienna people will come down, and also people from Milano will go and work it out. I’m sure we’ll achieve something great there.May God bless you all.33:50 34:14He’s told me also that it’s going to be arrangements like Brahmapuri here for all of you. I hope you’ll enjoy your stay of Brahmapuri here. [Shri Mataji is laughing]Alright. So let’s have some other music and also we have to thank all the musicians who are helping us here, to sing so beautifully in such a concord, in such tune! It’s beautiful I tell you, I’m really amazed. Otherwise, first of all, you used to sing in such funny ways, that I used to be frightened! That first the Deities will run Read More …
Press Conference Rome (Italy)
Interview, Press Conference, Rome (Italy), 18 May 1985. I’m sorry, very sorry to be late but I was in tv interview there, very sorry. I’ll ask all of you to sit down. [Shri Mataji speaks aside to Sahaja Yogis, also about offering refreshments to the journalists who have been waiting for quite a long time.] [Introduction in Italian until 07:38] Interviewer: What is the difference between Sahaja Yoga and the other kinds of yoga that we know in Europe? Shri Mataji: This Patanjali Yoga Shastra which was used about 78 000 years back was a system he had developed to prepare people for Self-realization. That was the time when children used to go to school in the forest and lead a very celibate life till the age of 25 years. So they were taught how to discipline themselves, how to cleanse their body under the guidance of a very evolved realized soul. But the physical exercises you do here is absolutely indiscriminate because it has no relevance to the body. It has to relate to different centers – subtle centers; wherever is the problem in the center that is the exercise one has to do and that was only known to those great masters. So they have got some sort of a half-baked ideas out of a little thing out the eight part, a little bit, called as Physical Yoga which has no relevance at all, anywhere. Then if you develop too much of your physical being you neglect your Read More …
Interview by Gregoire at the Ashram Ashram of Pichini, Rome (Italy)
Interview, Ashram in Pichini, Guidonia Montecelio, Rome, 18 May 1985 1985-0518. The Interview was recorded in the Pichini ashram the day before the Ganesha puja 1985. It was an interview to be passed later on in a private TV Shri Mataji: You can remove this thing. Gregoire: I’m sorry. It all seems a bit too mysterious. Guido! So, listen, you can sit on the… So, Shri Mataji, the idea is the following: is that I would perhaps just introduce a little bit the thing, and then I would ask You the question of the theme of the relationship of motherhood and spirituality. Because this is to feed an emission of about twenty minutes that we are paying ourselves, which would be on the channels. After that Alessandra, as asked, she will just tune in at some point to ask some questions on education and children towards the end, at the end. Alessandra: We would like to ask You some questions on education of children in India. Shri Mataji: (Shri Mataji’s chair edge is on some cloth) I am sorry, did I do? Gregoire: Sorry Shri Mataji, you are sitting on … Sorry. Shri Mataji: Is the door closed? Gregoire: Is the door closed over there? Shri Mataji: It’s rather cold. Put the heater. Somebody has to help Danya a little bit to bring her things down. Yogi: You do this. Gregoire: Well, it’s interesting to have the opportunity to talk about something so extraordinary as Sahaja Yoga. The matter of Read More …
Discussion on Progress in the West Rome Ashram - Nirmala House, Rome (Italy)
Discussion on Progress in the West, Rome Ashram, Italy 1985 -05-17 How we are destroying ourselves, I think that is the ideal thing one can do. The real shock is this we should not worry about population or anything. I think you should all sit down and think about it and make a, this thing, and then you should give confessions and stories about someone Sahaj Yogi told me horrible story about his own father that when he got his confirmation and he was about 16 years of age you see. The father celebrated it, his confirmation and after that he called a prostitute to teach him all about just imagine.If that is the situation, if the parents only try to..like these things. And they think they are liberated, there should be a really very sarcastic and any pungent attack on these people those who think they are liberated and this and that. It’s just a mental domination and the conscious mind has become so powerful with the west I tell you, one day they won’t be able to control it also, won’t be able to control their conscious mind. It will go beyond their consciousness; it may happen like that. You see, when ego becomes the most powerful thing then you cannot control it at all. {Shri mataji talking to a sahaj yogi}. They are living in another world I tell you still, have to make them understand that they are really going towards their destruction all these things Read More …
Short Conversation on Arrival Rome Ashram - Nirmala House, Rome (Italy)
1985-05-16 Arrival, Rome Ashram, Italy Shri Mataji: Oh! Who has done this painting here? Very good idea.Guido: This is a copy of the one that has been made by Herbert.Shri Mataji: Ah.Guido: In Vienna.Shri Mataji: But it’s big work, much bigger, much bigger.Guido: Yes. And also, there is the deity on his eyelash.Shri Mataji: Yes. And everything is so beautiful, I tell you, really.It’s really beautiful. Please, be seated. Extremely beautiful. A very nice place, Feels so fresh here, very, very fresh. So nice. Imagine what a place! [In Hindi: Very Beautiful] It’s god sent. Guido: All wood is so naturalShri Mataji: And also, you see, to have such a big hall, such a big hall!Guido: Yes. We can have 300 people. 300 hundred people can be here.Shri Mataji: Live here?Guido: Can be –Shri Mataji: Seated. Hmm. It’s beautiful. [Hindi] It’s god sent, I tell you. As if for [inaudible]. Beautiful. Anyway, pleasant and nice place. So now what do we do?Guido: Dinner, we have dinner.Shri Mataji: Dinner. And then we can talk to these people.Guido: Yes, Mother. You prefer it here or in your room? Shri Mataji: When did you come all of you? You came this morning?Sahaja Yogini: Yes, with the train.Guido: They came by train, Shri Mataji.Shri Mataji: I See!Guido: First, our Ruth is here. Shri Mataji: Ah, Ruth! How did you come? By train or by-Ruth: By plane. Aeroplane, Shri Mataji.Guido: Aeroplane.Shri Mataji: Aeroplane, I see. Is there a direct plane?Ruth: No.Shri Mataji: You had to Read More …
Be serious about it Milan (Italy)
1985-0515 Public Program, Milan, Italy I bow to all the seekers of Truth. Already now you know about the subtle centres that are in this spinal cord, also in the brain. So, when the Kundalini rises from Its seat, from the triangular bone, and pierces through the fontanel bone area, which was the soft bone in your childhood, it again becomes soft. And then the Grace, which is a very subtle energy surrounding us, which is all-pervading, starts falling down, the Bliss. Kundalini is the reflection of the Holy Ghost. Holy Ghost is the power of God. We can call It the primordial Mother. We have the Trinity, the divine Trinity, but we do not talk about the Mother. You have Father, the God; then you have Son, the God, and the Holy Ghost. How can a father have a son without a mother? So, from the very beginning, it is an attack on the Mother. And that is why you know that it is not allowed for women to be the priests also. But in India, or in all of the scriptures, it is believed that it is the Primordial Mother who created this universe. That is the Holy Ghost is the Mother. It is not a dove but a Mother. So this Primordial Mother, which is the power of God, resides as a reflection in the triangular bone, which Greeks accepted as Athena, as the Primordial Mother, Athena. So, this power rises within us and pierces through the Read More …
Energy of Pure Desire Milan (Italy)
Public Program, Milan, Italy 14-05-1985 I bow to all the seekers of Truth. But one has to know what is the Truth and what are we seeking. For this, one has to realize that these modern times are special times. When many people are born especially, to seek their Self, their Spirit. But this method of seeking has to come from understanding of ancient times. It cannot just start a new method, some sort of new fact that could be called as a seeking way. Like I went to a place called Pune in India, and there were some people suffering from all kinds of diseases: blood pressure, anginas, heart troubles, spondylitis and I was amazed at their suffering. So, they said that they have a guru whom they followed and he has given them some sort of odd thing called “shakti path”. I said this one I never heard before, where did you read this book, in what scriptures it is written? It has to be mentioned somewhere in the ancient scriptures as well. If your guru cannot even keep you in good health with such sufferings, such a guru! Because as a mother I feel that he should look after your health. So, it has to be based on the traditions of seeking, that what they had said about Self-realization is the experience of the Spirit. Now, this book that they were referring to was written only 60 or 70 years back, by somebody who talked of these Read More …
Seminar, Talk on Children, Parents, Schools Temple of All Faiths, Hampstead (England)
Talk on seminar. Hampstead, London (UK), 12 May 1985. [extract from about 1hr 1min on the video] [Inaudible]… But one thing, we must make it sure that those children who study there, they must pay for it, because, you see, what happens that it should just that the money be paid there, it’s finished there. That money can be recovered and can be used for some other purpose. Otherwise, sometimes in Sahaja Yoga it happens that people just send their children and do not pay for it; then it would be very difficult. Because it’s not much, but whatever is needed. Because that money must be recovered and we should be able to put another space also with that; so with one we can have another, like that we can cope. That’s a very good idea for the…yes. And you can also get get children of another place around, so the parents also know something about Sahaja Yoga there. Would be a good idea to make all the possible enquiries. Then from the same schools we can take children there when they’re a little bit grown-up. I think we should get Ray. Ray is a very good organizer; he’s running his school very well, in Australia, and the government people came and they praised him very much. The children – and he brought them up very well. They are, in a way, little strict with the children, and also quite kind. It’s a very good balance I think. The children Read More …
Becoming the Light Within Hampstead Friends Meeting House, Hampstead (England)
Public Program. Hampstead, London (England), 10 May 1985. I bow to all the seekers of truth. As I’ve told you before that these are special times and times when we are very confused. We are confused because so many things are in the atmosphere. Moreover there is a special urge to search the truth. This is a very special thing of the modern times that people want to search the truth. They think perhaps that there is something beyond that they have to seek. They feel they are not satisfied with whatever they have. They feel whatever is going on in this world is not all right. Perhaps they feel that human beings are not on the right track, that we have to take to something else, something different, something higher. But first of all when we are seeking we must understand that it should be based on the tradition of seeking. For example when you see these lights here you know that it was discovered gradually, first through principles then little more then little more, till they discovered these lights for us. But in the seeking, today the problem is human being has become not independent, but arbitrary. He has no relationship with the whole and anybody who tries to find out a new method, a new idea, a new way, people jump at it. This is the character of the modern times. Also media and everybody tries to support anything new comes up. In seeking also it has Read More …
Habit comes to you from matter Munich, Deutsches Museum (Germany)
Second Public Program, Munich (Germany), 9 May 1985. I’m sorry for being late today because I’ve just seen some other people. I bow to all the seekers of truth. Now the truth is that we are the Spirit. The Spirit resides in the heart and is the witness of what we do. It does not interfere with our everyday activity, and it is like a flicker of light, but it does not shine in the attention. It is the reflection of the absolute in our heart. And the Kundalini, which I described to you yesterday, which is the pure desire of ascent, is the reflection of the Divine desire within us. And this desire is to be one with the Spirit. In our course of life, we pass through many desires. We seek protection, we seek food at the primitive stage. As we grow, we seek possession and wealth, we seek power. But ultimately we reach a point where we discover that it was a joyless pursuit, because Spirit is the source of joy, which is eternal emitting joy. If somehow it comes into our attention, we can feel the joy on our central nervous system. Now we have to know one thing about ourselves in modern times: that we have passed through various stages of seeking before. We have done all kinds of seekings before. And now the time has come for us to get the reward of our seeking. There is no more seeking needed. We must learn Read More …
This is the Knowledge of the Roots Munich, Deutsches Museum (Germany)
First Public Program. Deutsches Museum, Munich (Germany), 8 May 1985. I bow to all the seekers of truth. But the seekers of truth have to know the truth, at least they should know what they have to seek. It is to be understood that the seeking has to be in the tradition of the seeking. Like when electricity was discovered, it took years together for people to find it out, and a scientist had to go from one to another – the experience of one, the indications of one, and the futuristic ideas of the one were picked up and he started on that tradition, on that basis his own evolution as far as the electrical knowledge is concerned. In the same way we must understand that there have been people who have been seeking for ages. As in the West, you have grown so much outward, like the tree which has grown outside, there have been people in India, they have been going to the roots of this tree. So this is the knowledge of the roots. If the tree grows too much and the roots do not reach its source, then we are waiting for a shock of complete destruction. So today on such an important date, of the anniversary of the end of the War II, I think it is important for us to go to find out what are our roots. Any person who is aware in these modern times, who is intelligent, can see that Read More …
Shraddha is faith after enlightenment TU Wien, Vienna (Austria)
Second Public Program in Technische Hochschule, Vienna (Austria), 7 May 1985. I bow to all the seekers of truth. Yesterday, those who have felt the Cool Breeze in the hand should put their hands on the table like this, because it has started already but while My speech is going on they will feel it more. Everyone can do it, it’s all right, even if you have not felt yesterday. So yesterday I told you that the truth has to be felt on your central nervous system. They say there is all-pervading power which does all the living work. You have to feel it, it’s not just a picture or a symbol or a talk or a topic, but you have to feel that, this is the time! Because people have been talking about it so far, the time had not come. But those who told the truth did say about these times which are some special times. So those who say that, “We believe in God” or, “We believe in Christ” or, “We believe in communism” or, “We believe in democracy”, are just mentally believing into it. I would say I am quite a great capitalist because I have all the powers. And I am the greatest communist because I can’t live without sharing it with others. I’m a very happily married woman, at this age I am quite old and I am travelling around the whole world just sharing it with others. So, you have to feel the Read More …
Seekers of the beyond TU Wien, Vienna (Austria)
First Public Program in Technische Hochschule, Vienna (Austria), 6 May 1985. I bow to all the seekers of truth. It is very important at this time to know that human beings are not complete, that there is something more to be achieved to be complete. Whether you go to the north or south, east or west, you do not find people joyous. So the conclusion should be that whatever has been our so-called achievements, has been of no avail. On the contrary, in the modern times, say about twenty years back we can say, so many new words have come up, which people like Me can’t understand. Like tensions, like problems – I don’t understand. But all these have come to us through various channels and are settled in our conditioning. While people have talked against conditioning, that we shouldn’t have condition, we have conditioned ourselves with all these theories and talks about something that is unknown. Like psychologists, you have to go to a psychologist as if everybody is an insane person. Everybody must have a lawyer and must have a psychologist to hang around. There is no need to have a psychologist for sane people. So instead of improving we have gone down. There are certain diseases that have developed now in America, like AIDS and all that, have come to us through our bad conditioning by Mr. Freud. You cannot analyze a human being by asking questions, because it’s just a mental process. Whatever we think and Read More …
Sahasrara Puja: Nirananda Laxenburg (Austria)
Sahasrara Puja. Laxenburg, Vienna (Austria), 5 May 1985 Today, in this beautiful place created by the Queen of Austria, we have gathered here to perform the puja to the Sahasrara. When we enter into the realm of Sahasrara, then only we have a right to do the Sahasrar puja. Before this nobody talked about Sahasrara, nobody did any puja to Sahasrar. This is your privilege that you are in the realm of Sahasrara and that you can do this puja, perform it, it’s your right, you are chosen for this. It is a very privileged place for you to enter into the Sahasrara of the Viraat, to reside in the brain as cells of that Sahasrara. Let us see what is the quality of the cells of Sahasrara. These are specially created cells through the working of the Swadishthana. Passing through all the chakras, when they arrive at Sahasrara they are equipped to handle the brain’s activity without getting involved into other elements in the body. In the same way the Sahaja Yogis are not to be involved with the other cells, human beings, of the body of this Universe. The first thing that happens to a Sahaja Yogi at the Sahasrara level [is] that he becomes beyond, ateet. So, many things he transcends. [He’s] kalateet, he goes beyond time, time is his slave. If you have to go somewhere then suddenly you discover that everything is working [at] about the same time when you are able to do it. Read More …
Evening Program, Eve of Sahasrara Puja after Nirvikalpa talk Laxenburg (Austria)
Evening Program, Eve of Sahasrara Puja after Nirvikalpa talk Do you know the meaning of this one? We have the translation. Oh, I see. But the one thing is there now, you see. It has to be rhythmic, otherwise, if it is not proper rhyme and also, in a proper rhythm, as you say “taal”. Any music, say it’s English, it’s western, whatever it is. It has to have that link. In the western music, whatever was composed they used to us beats i think, in the older times. But in the modern times there are no beats. There is no mariadas, nothing. So, in our Sahaja Yoga songs you all must have mariadas, you cannot just sing something without any beat. You must definitely have beats. If it is a 4-beat sound or it’s a, I don’t know how many beats you have, but we have a least 28 also. I mean, ours is over complicated. But doesn’t matter, you need not do that, 28 is too much. But up to 16 is simple. So, it must be in beats first of all, and the tune should be as such, that it should form a melody. That’s important. Because any tune anywhere, going anywhere, moving anywhere. You see, this kind of composition takes your mind from this to that, to that, to that. But if it’s a melody so you come back again on the Sam. On the same point, again, on the same theme, you see. When you Read More …
Talk: You have to be in Nirvikalpa, Eve of Sahasrara Puja Laxenburg (Austria)
Evening before Sahasrara puja, “You have to be in nirvikalpa”. Vienna, May 4, 1985. It’s very gratifying to see so many Sahaja Yogis have come to celebrate the Sahasrar day. Without breaking the Sahasrara we could not have achieved the ascent en masse. But the Sahasrara, which is the brain, has gone into too much complications in the West and the nerves are very much twisted, one upon another. To keep Sahasrara open should be very easy if the Western brains could understand and be aware about your Mother. When your Mother is the Deity of Sahasrara the only way to be able to keep the Sahasrara open has to be complete surrendering. For that many ask Me, “How do we do [it]?” It’s a very funny question – it is irrelevant. If your Sahasrara has been opened out by someone, and luckily that is the Deity before you, it should be the easiest thing to surrender, but it is not. It is difficult because the attention that has come up through the cells of the brain, expressing itself through the cells of the brain, is polluted, it is impure, it is destructive; it spoils the nerves and when the nerves are spoiled, the light of the Spirit does not shine on the nerves and you feel the inability to surrender. Normally, it should be the easiest thing to do. So, we have to mentally approach ourselves. We have to talk to ourselves and say to ourselves, “What are you Read More …
The time has come for people to get their resurrection Vienna (Austria)
Public Program day 2, the time has come for people to get their resurrection I bow to all the seekers of Truth. As I told you yesterday that Truth is not a concept When people start establishing something as Truth there arises the problem because Truth cannot be organized, cannot be ordered, cannot be changed it is what it is. And today the Truth is, that the time has come for people to get their resurrection, that the time has come where people have to ascend to their higher being. As in Koran described very clearly, is Kiama is the time of resurrection. Said very clearly, that your hands will speak and they will give witness about. This is time of Last Judgment. God is not going to weigh people to judge them. It is you only, in your ascent, are going to judge yourself. And there are people who are a special category today, who are seeking something higher. Now, yesterday a question was raised about the religion part. All these religions which have come on this earth, are product of Divine force. All the prophets and Incarnations, all of them came on this earth to propound a special milestone within us. On the tree of life, all of them grew one after another but people took out or removed them from the tree of life saying, “This is my religion, this is my religion.” So believing into something that is dead. So, what we see today, is a Read More …
Sahasrara Puja Seminar, Talk to Sahaja Yogis: Nirananda Vienna (Austria)
“Nirananda”, Vienna Ashram (Austria), 2 May 1985. It is so joyful to be with you all again here in Vienna. A poet came to Vienna long time back from India, he said that walking on the streets of Vienna the heart starts beating in a poetic rhythm and the ripples of poetry start flowing. So, there have been people who have been seekers before in this place definitely and that they are again sort of reborn. So we are all looking forward to Sahasrara Day, which is a very great thing and that you all are here to take up the task of receiving all the Sahaja Yogis and looking after them. Now the atmosphere, as I said, of Vienna itself, is very poetic. I’m sure Sahasrara Day will be a great experience for all of you. Poetry is like moonlight and when it falls upon any matter, it enhances the beauty and gives it a charisma and the language is so beautiful that it hides all the ugliness as the moonlight hides all the detailed ugliness. It creates an atmosphere – so meditative. This is what is Sahaja Yoga; that it makes our life the prose into poetry – the poetry of experiences and events that take place. Like today, when we were coming by plane, three of us wanted to sit in one line, and that we had two seats together and one on the side. Now Dr. Rustom and myself sat together and Dr. Spiro sat on Read More …
The true master will tell you that you have to seek your Self Musée social, Paris (France)
Public Program Day 2, Musée social, Paris, France, 1985 [Introduction to Sahaja Yoga in French by Patrick. Short resume to Shri Mataji about what he said.] [Talk starts at 23:35 on video.] I bow to all the seekers of truth. The day before, I told you, that eventually, one has to understand what a seeker has to find out. He has to find out himself, his own Spirit, the idea of having some sort of a new venture into the style of seeking comes because people want to make money out of you. But the one who is the true master or the Satguru will tell you that you have to seek your Self. He has no interest in what you are nor he has any interest in what you can give him! Because he stands on the giving end, and he cannot receive even if he wants to, he cannot receive by his own nature and so, also, he does not want because by his nature he is compelled, just to give! Even if you try to please such a guru, by giving him something, he will say: ”I’m sorry, you’d better have it to yourself”. We had a very great saint in Maharashtra called Tukaram. And we had a very enlighten king called Shivaji. And when he heard about Tukaram and found out about him he took lots of ornaments for his wife and things for his children and for his household and went to see him. So Read More …
Talk to Sahaja Yogis: Why We Are Not Growing? (Evening) Ashram in Le Raincy, Le Raincy (France)
1985-04-23 Talk To French Sahaja Yogis in Le Raincy ashram, Paris, France. Talk 1 Audio starts here Shri Mataji: So we’ll call her Gauri, all right? Gauri. Sahaja Yogi: It’s a boy’s Mother. Shri Mataji: It’s a boy? [Laughter] Oh, it’s a boy! Boy, what happened! So we can have the Gauri Kumar. It’s a name of Ganesha. Son of Gauri Kumar. He’s smiling. Acha, he looks like a boy, I was thinking- [Laughter] Gauri Kumar. All right. Sahaja Yogi: [In French: please move that everyone can come in and see Shri Mataji] Sahaja Yogi: I brought your shawl. Shri Mataji: Yes, thank you Shri Mataji: Now, we have many Sahaja Yogis here who have been also married in France, and there will be more coming down to be with you all, to strengthen the centre in Paris and other places. I feel that this year has not been very good for Sahaja Yogis, and there has not been much growth as it should have been. I don’t know why but it is always to be understood that when Sahaja Yoga does not expand there’s some sort of a negativity in the Sahaja Yogis, because all the nature, everything works out for you. As soon as you change, the whole atmosphere changes and you get a big response from outside. I’ll give you an example of England now. In England we had one girl- lady, as you know , Gavin’s wife, who was very negative. And since she’s gone away, Read More …
Conversation with French Sahaja Yogis, denounce the false gurus Ashram in Le Raincy, Le Raincy (France)
Conversation with French Sahaja Yogis, Ashram in Le Raincy, Le Raincy (France) April 23d, 1985 [Audio and video start when Marie is translating into French: “The so-called Guru told them that, “By December – that was last year – “by December the world would be destroyed”. When Shri Mataji went there, it was in September. “And that everyone had to try to come before the world gets destroyed.”] Shri Mataji: And he is buying – he is just buying Rolls Royce’s and he has got three airplanes; I think, I don’t know. I mean such a fraud and such a horrible gangster he was! And he talked through his hat. I don’t know what he talked. Nonsense! I just wanted to test him and I saw him and I wanted to know what is he up to and I found out that he was a dirty man. He was doing all dirty tricks with there – he was like a homosexual. Most of his disciples get Aids also because he spoils their private parts and things like that. And in my presence, I’m surprised about you, but normally they faint and they just become like stones in my presence, the disciples. They can’t stand Me at all.Once Yogi Mahajan told Me he wants to bring three of them for my program. I told him, “Don’t bring them”. He won’t listen. He brought them. And I was sitting like this [in an armchair] and at least two hundred feet away, in Read More …
This is the Last Judgment. You are judged by yourself Universite Paris Diderot Paris 7, Paris (France)
Public Program Day 1, Paris, 1985-04-22 [Patrick is introducing Sahaja yoga] Shri Mataji: I’ll stand, it will be better. Better take out my shoes. I bow to all the seekers of truth. These are exceptional times. There are thousands and thousands people born on this earth who have been seeking the truth for many lives. It is a very special category of personality. As a result of this, people started the seeking in various ways of the unknown. But whatever is unknown is not the truth. This is the problem in the West, that we are not knowledgeable about the roots on which we stand. The knowledge is in the West is that of the tree and not of the roots. And that is why many people have taken full advantage of this naivety. From 1970 I’ve been speaking very loudly against all such people who have come to the West to delude you, how they have tried to loot you and to give you diseases and troubles of incorrigible nature. In the beginning when I talked against them, people here were protesting vehemently and they were so badly mesmerized that I could not rescue them. Such people, we can say, form real cults. But the truth has to be in the line of evolutionary process. It has to have the bases. It cannot just come from somewhere and people say, “This is a method,” or, “This is a way it is to be done.” As you know, in the Read More …
Arrival Charles de Gaulle Airport, Roissy-en-France, Paris (France)
Arrival, Charles de Gaulle Airport, Roissy-en-France (France), April 22nd, 1985 [Shri Mataji says hello from far. Starts at 4:10] Shri Mataji: How are you? All right? We have two American ladies, all right? And there’s a little gift from America. And Paul, you know him very well. Guido! How can I meet these people around? Sahaja Yogi: There’s a space over there. [Conversation with the French coordinator Alexandre] Shri Mataji: [Inaudible]. It’s better. Because otherwise they’ll start thinking, you see, that it’s another Guru. [Inaudible]. And your wife? Sahaja Yogi: Inaudible. [Alexandre introduces the French SY to Shri Mataji] [Cut at 17;12; comes back to 17:02] [Cut at 17:31] Shri Mataji: All right, I want to see you all. Alexandre: So, you come with us and the luggage will go there with Denis. Shri Mataji: Let’s call [inaudible] I ‘ll ask her. You must take them also.
Mother’s Day Puja: Talk on Children University of Birmingham, Birmingham (England)
Seminar, Mother’s Day Puja, Talk on Children. Birmingham, England. 1985. 21 April 1985. Please be seated. Gavin has not come? Gavin is not there? The ladies with the children also must sit down for the puja. They haven’t yet arrived? Someone must go and tell them. Yogi: Somebody with a car please get up to the main point and tell people that they should arrive. Preferably a gentleman with the car. Shri Mataji: What are they doing? Yogini: We have to clear the rooms by twelve. Yogi: Mother, we have just been told that we have to clear our rooms by twelve o’ clock, so this has caused little confusion. Shri Mataji: Why? Yogi: Because the authorities would like their rooms back by twelve o’clock. Shri Mataji: Oh, I see. So then… Yogi: Should they try to quickly clear their rooms as well? Shri Mataji: Yes. But I will finish the puja quite early, about eleven thirty. They could have gone then. Because if you start late, it will be late again. In any case I have to finish the puja early, because I am going earlier. Yogi: Can the many people who have cars actually help the people come back down to the hall… ? Shri Mataji: Or they might be on their way. Are they all coming together? Just see if they are coming together. Come along fast, come along. Even the people with children should come here. Ask them to come down. Yogini: Shall I telephone Mr Read More …
Seminar, Mahamaya Shakti, Evening, Improvement of Mooladhara University of Birmingham, Birmingham (England)
Mahamaya Shakti seminar, evening, Birmingham, (UK), 20 April 1985 Shri Mataji: Please be seated.Is it all right this one?Are you recording all right?Sahaja Yogi: Yes MotherShri Mataji: So, this is how Mahamaya plays. They had planned everything. They had all the arrangements made and the sari was missing. All right. So, they came and told Me that, “The sari’s missing. So, now what to do?” You can’t have puja without the sari, according to them. [Laughter] So, I said, “All right, let’s wait. If it arrives in time we’ll have it; otherwise we can have it later”. But I was least disturbed, least upset. Because I do not have a mental conception of it. But if you have a mental conception, “Oh, we have programmed everything, arranged everything. We have done this and now it’s fizzling out.” Doesn’t matter. Nothing is fizzling out. [Laughter]But that is what we cannot do. Because you asked Me today, “What is Mahamaya?”, this is what it is. [laugh]You must learn to accept whatever comes your way. That’s one of the things. And here where we feel frustrated, angry, upset and spoil our joy, one of the things, because we make a mental projection. Mentally we calculate something. This has to be. And it’s really in a way a subtle ego feeling. Because I thought, “That’s what is destined, all right. We’ll have it tomorrow. What does it matter?” In any case I told Mr. Srivastava that I’ll be back only about two o’clock.He said, Read More …
Seminar, Mahamaya Shakti, Morning University of Birmingham, Birmingham (England)
Mahamaya Shakti. Seminar in Birmingham (UK), 20 April 1985. I knew English were the most intelligent people, but I must say they have also very sharp and pure intelligence to get to the right point.It is said that at Sahasrara the Goddess incarnates as Mahamaya. Because the job She has to do is of a very different nature. At the heart chakra, Anahata, She has to just defend, just defend the seekers from the clutches of the evil forces which are also not so subtle. They are very gross like forms, human forms. And it’s easy to fight and have a war with them, kill them.But at the point of Sahasrara, the work is very complicated. First of all, the Sahasrara of the human beings is itself a very complicated thing.First of all, it’s not that the time is very precarious, but also every country has its own complication to add to Sahasrara. Apart from that, you know, in Sahasrara we have got the seats of all the centres, not only the seven centres we are dealing with. And so many nadis are worked out through Sahasrara. So, the chakras, where the Deities have to work, have to deal with much less complications than the Deity at the Sahasrara where there are so many centres and so many nadis, and it has to act on the Sahasraras of the seekers. Say, for the Deity at the heart or at the Vishuddhi, the people are not so complicated, they have not Read More …
The mystery of seeking the Spirit Doctor Johnson House, Birmingham (England)
Public Program. Birmingham (UK), 19 April 1985. I bow to all the seekers of truth. I’ve been many a times in Birmingham before and today I find there are so many people whom I know very well, and gradually we are all increasing in size, understanding our Spirit. Now, the seeking of the Spirit is not a new thing. It’s a very ancient pursuit of human beings. They have been seeking the Spirit and many a times many prophets, many great incarnations came on this Earth to help the people in their pursuit. The seeking of the Spirit is a inner urge, a very compelling urge within ourselves. But we don’t know what we have to seek; we don’t know what it means to be twice born. I come from India and suddenly I feel I belong to Britain. I’ve become British and I feel the shock that we are all facing. Where are we going? The other day I saw some program about cocaine smuggling in England and I was shocked. All self-destructive things sometimes can be misunderstood as Spirit seeking. One can misunderstand. But they lead us nowhere – is a fact. Then why do we do it? We do it – I know that we do it only because we are seeking the Spirit. It’s very misleading, though. We seek the Spirit in wrong things. This urge we think will be fulfilled by wrong things, by doing wrong to ourselves, by harming ourselves, by torturing ourselves. We Read More …
Easter Puja: We should become the people who are fighting for Christ Montague Hall, Hounslow (England)
Easter Puja, Hounslow, UK – 1985-0408 Happy Easter to you all. So we celebrate Easter to show how Christ resurrected, resurrected Himself. The spirit that is Christ has to resurrect out of the material manifestation of the divine itself. The matter is manifested, because we ourselves have created it. Not that we are born out of matter, our body, but we are attached to it, we want it, we want to have it. Whatever you want, that sustains itself by your desire, because now you are on the stage. If you want to sustain the matter, if you want to keep the matter as the first priority, it will remain. It cannot disappear. It has to go out of your mind, that matter cannot hold you any further. Christ rose out of the matter, came out of the tomb which symbolises the matter which has enclosed us within, which has to be opened out with our spiritual power. Throw away, throw away the stone that is covering this grave. Get out of that and stand outside it. This is the message of Christ’s resurrection. The tomb that we have created, we have created ourselves, because we have allowed people to dominate us. We have allowed them to make these graves for us, we have allowed them to bury Christ within ourselves, because we were afraid. But Christ has to rise. So we create our own matter through our conditionings, through our fears, through our absolute wrong ideas about goodness and Read More …
Shri Bhoomi Devi Puja: Sacrifice is very important Pune (India)
English Translation – Bhoomi Devi Puja Date 4th February 1985: Place Pune – Type Puja or 1985-0204 [English Translation from Marathi] (Starts at 12:48) So much preparation has been done by all you Sahaja Yogis. After seeing that, it feels that the decision to reside in Pune has to have some special reason of love. There are many reasons but the main reason I feel is the yearning for your immense love is why we decided to make Pune city our home. On the whole, getting the land and getting the work done here is certainly a special event. But the main reason is that Pune has a mould of immense virtue, abundance of good deeds and also has a mould of virtue. Here people can be transformed into virtuous beings. But a lot of nuisance has taken place here and will keep happening, because whenever people are transformed into virtuous beings, the negative forces are operational everywhere, ready to attack such beings. Especially at such places where some virtue is being created. So, you should achieve Sahaja Yoga more truthfully, with greater alertness and care. Pune is the soul of Maharashtra.. It is not only virtue but it is the soul. If we infuse vitality(Chaitanya) in this soul then its good effect will certainly be felt in the whole of Maharashtra. For this purpose I need help from all of you. First of all, one should remember that building a house is not really very important and it’s an easy Read More …
Public Program Dharamshala (India)
H.H.Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, Public Programme, Dharamshala, Himachal Pradesh, 31st March, 1985 I bow to all the devotees of Mother (Goddess Durga and her forms) in Dharamshala! The Temple’s Committee here has organized this, for which I am very thankful to them. In fact, so much hospitality and so much joy! With the blend of both, the heart gets filled with feelings of so much love, that it becomes difficult to express it in words! It is said that in Kaliyuga no one cares for the mother. It’s the characteristic of Kali Yuga, that people forget the mother, but now we must say that the time of Kaliyuga is over, and that the people have accepted the mother. I have found a very huge difference between a mother and a guru. The mother is also a guru. She also teaches her children, but she explains by mixing and adding love in a manner that the child gets ready to do anything for that love! This power of love which is today giving freshness to the whole world, is doing all the living work, like the existence of this tree, it’s greenery, after that growth of flower from the tree, and growth of a fruit from the flower, all these actions which are living work. Who does it? The power which does all that is the power of God’s love. She is called Adishakti. God simply watches the play, how the work of his power is getting done! When he doesn’t like Read More …
Devi Puja Dharamshala (India)
Devi Puja, Talnoo, Dharamshala, India, March 29th 1985 English Transcript (अंग्रेजी में बोलें? ये लोग पीछे जाके बैठ जायें. इधर खडे नहीं. पीछे जगह है, इधर से बैठिये. – Shri Mataji speaks to the people in Hindi that there is a place in the back and that they should go and sit there.) 1:05 … People of [unclear Dharamshala] so different, so nice, special quality people. We cannot say no to them. They are beautiful people. Very beautiful. They will enter into the kingdom of God. …. (थोडा अंग्रेजी में बोलते हैं. – I’ll speak in English.) Speech starts at 1:15 Today we are sitting at the foothill of Himalaya. Himalaya is the Father of your Mother. And since I have come here the feeling of returning to the Father is making Me feel extremely proud of you. (Hindi – अंग्रेजी में बोलने से लाईट चली जायेगी – because of speaking in English if the electricity goes off.) 2:00 So we have to count our blessings again that we are at the foothill of Himalaya which is the Sahasrara of the universe. Those people who live here are the most beautiful people that you could think of. They are not rich, they are not educated, they are not sophisticated. They are simple folk, but one of them is equal to thousands and thousands of other people who are still moving in the realm of materialism. It is such a special day to be here. Today is the 7th day of Read More …
Birthday Puja New Delhi (India)
Birthday Puja, Sahaj Temple, New Delhi, 26/3/1985, translation from Hindi [English translation from Hindi] Today, you are all celebrating my birthday. This is a matter of great satisfaction as in this time of Kaliyuga, who celebrates the birthday of a mother? This shows that even though you are born in this Kaliyuga, you don’t just know about your duty towards the mother (Matru Dharma), but you also follow it. To celebrate birthdays in this age, a year is getting deducted every year and there are so many tasks still to be done. I can see many incomplete tasks. We will have to work hard and pay attention to them. Only then can they be completed fully. Like I said yesterday, in Delhi, we should pay attention to our culture. We should sort out our cultural state. The third very important thing is our spiritual ascent. We should pay attention to it like a martyr who is ready to sacrifice his life for his cause. We should have the same fervour for Sahaja Yoga. Until we have this sentiment in us, Sahaja Yoga is going to be only for our benefit. I keep hearing about the happiness and benefits people have got from it. Whatever we have benefited from it, whatever good has happened, is only because of one reason – that you have found your spirit. But when the light has come in you, you have become the lamp, then you can’t hide the lamp. You should bring your lamp Read More …
Chaitra Navaratri Puja New Delhi (India)
1985-03-25 Chaitra Navaratri Puja, Delhi [English Translation from Hindi] I wish you on this auspicious day of Navratri. There is no doubt that the उत्कण्ठा , love and respect you people have for Sahaj is appreciable, because we find that the our heritage in North India are somewhat lost. Our past has been lost to a great extent and after independence after 300 years of slavery, we are entangled in our new environment which is intriguing but destructive too. As if we have been uprooted from our basic elements. These elements were never nurtured that is true but we also were interested in superficial things.The North had been a kind of curse on India. I think that the way Washerman behaved with Sitaji (Devi Sita of Ramayan) the rule of washer man have started in Uttar Pradesh. When you travel across Uttar Pradesh, it is sad to see that people have become superficial, incomplete, without faith, without respects etc that it does not appear that Sahaj can flourish there. Secondly, it is seen that everywhere be it Punjab, Bihar we call ourselves hindu or Indians but we are unaware of our culture/heritage.We do not know our roots? On which root we are standing steady? We cannot prosper by seeding the roots of others in ourselves. And our roots are so very important that the roots of entire world will evolve and exalt from it. But the man here is in strange environment he is on never side, and when I Read More …
Public Program Jaipur (India)
1985-03-24 Public Program [Hindi] Jaipur (India) Greetings to all the seekers of truth in Jaipur. Every individual lives according to their beliefs. Whatever beliefs one adopts, they shape their life. However, there comes a point in such a life where one realizes, “What I have thought so far, the beliefs I have held, have not borne fruit. I have not attained joy from them, I have not found resolution, and I have not attained peace.” When that point confronts a person, they become doubtful of their beliefs. And at that moment, they begin to search for what lies beyond, what lies beyond this, what world is beyond this, which I must attain. When this journey begins, only then can we say that a person becomes a seeker. In the pursuit of truth, one wanders far and wide. Sometimes one thinks, “If only I gather wealth, then through that wealth I will attain joy.” Then one thinks, “Let me attain power – through attaining power, I will attain joy.” Then someone thinks, “If I just love a particular person, then I will attain happiness through that alone.” Moving beyond this, when one rises to expansiveness, they think, “If I serve all beings, do some good for them, perform actions for their upliftment, then I will attain the Divine.” But these are all human beliefs. Through human belief, one cannot reach towards the Divine, because the Divine is infinite, and with limited intellect, we cannot dive into the infinite. If we think Read More …
Public Program Jaipur (India)
Public Program, Jaipur, Rajasthan, India, 23rd March, 1985 I bow to the seekers of Jaipur. Shri Krishna has told about three types of people in this world, whom he used to call Tamsik, Rajsik and Satvik. Tamsik people are the one, who do not recognize good or bad, auspicious or inauspicious, but mostly run after inauspicious, mostly run after wrong things. When they go to extremes, then by getting overwhelmed with Black Magic and occult practices (bhoot Vidya, pret Vidya, shamshan Vidya) their attraction remains towards them only. And people who are Rajsik are like we have in western countries, and now we too are moving in the same direction and becoming like them. Due to being very intellectual, and by learning their ways, we have also acquired many of their habits, that those people are not able to differentiate between good and bad. For them everyone is good and everyone is bad. They are unable to understand the difference, and live only on the basis of their ego. If they like something then it is good for them, if they do not like then it is bad. Third type of people are the ones I call Seekers. These are people of virtuous (satvik) nature. Satvik does not mean that they go through great penance, or they abstain from particular food etc. but a Satvik person is the one who maintains a balance within. He does not go to any extremes. Does not take to any excessiveness. Without going to Read More …
Birthday Puja: Keep your heart clean Mumbai (India)
Birthday puja, Bombay, 21 March 1985. [Shri Mataji speaks in Marathi] Greetings to all Sahaja Yogis of Maharashtra. Because of your goodwill, [friendly attitude towards other people or country], we have won the campaign at Australia. Sahaja Yoga has spread all over in Australia. Lots of people had come and they were of a great quality. In few days Maharashtra has to play a bet with Australia. Such a situation has arrived. The difference between them and us is that we are straight people, Sahaja Yoga sows quickly in us as we get it easily, we pick up Sahaja Yoga quickly, we acquire it easily and it sprouts in us easily. However, we should have incomprehensive [in-depth] knowledge about Sahaja Yoga. People think that if we do meditation every day and keep silence than we have in depth knowledge about Sahaja Yoga. But we have to think that once we have in depth knowledge then what to do? Once you increase the light within yourself then what to do? Why, to enlighten others, to do well [good] to others. So, the Sahaja Yogis of Maharashtra have a challenge, the way Australians work hard, in the same way we have to work hard, then only you will win the bet. We have lot of blessings of past life, because of which we are born in such a great country, especially in Maharashtra, but we should still remember that this blessing will work out for how many days? We have to add Read More …
Address to Leaders Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)
Address to Leaders. Melbourne (Australia), 18 March 1985. Shri Mataji: Better teach them how to manage this. But we have experienced now your wife should not be in charge. No woman should be in charge. If you want an assistance take another gentleman but not any woman whatsoever. While I think they don’t understand. If they go in administration they go off their heads. So best is to have another assistant, if you want somebody, ask your leader here or someone and then arrange. Have somebody to assist you. But, be careful, always be careful that he does not become dominant and does not try to spoil the scope. Take always all opportunities to create joyous moments. Like say this people have come, the young people have come married, should ask them to go out and have some nice time and give them some nice time, or something. All the joyous moments must be an advantage for the people to feel happier. You see this must be done. And now, those who are married now also you must say that you are married, you see that you build up the atmosphere so that they feel the importance of marriage. I think that is not in the west but we have it. You all the times say the ripples which you see to please them, do this, do that, and then they see and then they build it up within their hearts, but that’s not here, no interest. You show interest Read More …
Talk to Sahaja Yogis: I depend on you very much Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)
Talk To Sahaja Yogis: I Depend On You Very Much Farewell Talk. Melbourne (Australia), 18 March 1985. Shri Mataji: There are some children to be blessed.Sahaja Yogi: Any of the children yet to be blessed.Shri Mataji: Those who are to be named. There are three, four children?Sahaja Yogi: It could be.Shri Mataji: Ah, this one. Hello, what’s his name?Sahaja Yogini: Shane.Shri Mataji: Shane. Call him Prashant alright? Prashant is a good name, meaning the peace that is being enlightened. Alright?Sahaja Yogini: Thank you, Shri Mataji.Shri Mataji: Good. May God bless you. He’s happy, he likes it. You like it? You like it that way? The heat is coming out. Yes, it’s good. You must massage your children, always, alright? Heat is coming out. May God bless you. Sahaja Yogi: Now, Caroline’s children are in Sydney. You probably remember them.Shri Mataji: Yes.Sahaja Yogi: From Sydney. They have been called Gabriel and Michael. Is that what you’d like or would you like to give another name?Shri Mataji: I mean, you can call them by Hanumana and- you can call them by Indian names also.Sahaja Yogi: Bhairava and Hanumana.Shri Mataji: Bhairava and Hanumana. It’s a good idea.[Laughter][Applause] Shri Mataji: What’s her name?Sahaja Yogini: Anna.Shri Mataji: Anna.Anna, now. You can call her as Amruta. Amruta means eternal. Nice name Amruta? May God bless you.[Applause] Sahaja Yogi: It is Steven’s daughter.Shri Mataji: Ah, yes.Sahaja Yogini: His name is Nicola.Shri Mataji: Nika?Sahaja Yogi: Nicola.Shri Mataji: Nicola.Let Me see her. So, we’ll call him Niranjana, it’s a good name. Niranjana, it’s a Goddess’s name. Alright. They all look like Me, somehow.[Laughter][Applause][…] Shri Mataji: So, whats your name? Sahaja Yogi: Timothy. Shri Mataji: Timothy. From ‘ta’, there are very few good names, I think. I will give it from something else, then. Kabira is a nice name. Sahaja Read More …