Public Program Day 2

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1985-06-04 Public Program, Day 2, School For The Humanities, West 18th St., New York, USA

Yesterday I told you how self is more important than anything else at the present state of human awareness.  When you are at the human awareness first thing that should happen to you is to feel your self. As Shri Krishna has said, “Atmane atmane thushtaha.”  Unless and until you reach your atma, your spirit, you are not going to get the satisfaction of achieving anything.

Because Kundalini, which you see here seated in the triangular bone which we call as the sacrum that means, Greek knew about it.  Greek knew about the sacrum bone. Otherwise they would have not called it as sacrum, means sacred. Even when I went to Athens I was surprised that Athena the word ‘Atha’ comes from Sanskrit, means primordial.  And She had a snake like thing on… in Her hand with all the chakras. So the Greeks knew about it. And when I talked to them they told Me that it is a fact that Indians came much before Alexander. We had rapport with Indians much before Alexander and they told us about the primordial Mother and Her three powers.  It is very amazing how they knew all about it. And then it all got lost because of the extroversion, a moving out from reality.

So this bone, sacrum bone contains or here resides the Kundalini in three and a half coil.  This is the power of our pure desire. The pure desire is a desire when it is manifested should give you full satisfaction.

For example, some people seek it in power.  They indulge in power. Some seek it in possessions.  Some seek it in other things. But all these seekings do not give them satisfaction.  If they could give satisfaction then there would have been no problem. Because once you buy a car then you want to buy something else and then you buy…want to buy something else.  You start moving from one to another. And as Economics says that in particular a want is satiable but not in general. So we have to understand that the wants that we have, the desires we have, are not pure desires but are impure desires.  And when we deal with them we never get that satisfaction.

For example somebody wants to do something he does it but doesn’t get any satisfaction.  The only way you can get satisfaction is that you become one with the divine. And this power of desire which is a pure desire is residing in each and everybody’s triangular bone.  But we are lost. We are seeking our pleasures our joys into wrong things. We think that by doing this or by doing that, by buying this or becoming that we will be completely fully satisfied which we ultimately discover.  In a evolutionary stage such people when they discover that the joy is not in all these things. There is no happiness in this kind of thing. We have to go beyond this. Once they discover this then they become a special category of people.  And these special category of people are the seekers.

Of course today I find so many seekers are lost.  Especially in America they are lost in various ways.  We would say in all the cults, or in all other things like drugs, or homosexuality or whatever you may call it, they are lost into these.  Into violence, many are indulging into violence. Or doing all kind of things which are not for their ascent but are degrading and will take them down not to their seeking but to their hell.  But it is happening today. You can see it very clearly. It is happening because human beings do not understand that human awareness is a transitory phase you have to go beyond it. And that beyond stage, the stage we have to reach is the stage of your self.

To begin with, you have to become first of all self realized.  Meaning you are to be born again. And to be born again you have to allow the Kundalini to work it out.  So what do we do as people said, I told you yesterday, it is effortless, without any money. It just happens spontaneously.  Now it happens that a enlightened light can enlighten another light. In the same way I may be able to enlighten you but you can enlighten many others.

Like in India we have someone who has enlightened 10,000 people and has done so much good to people that it is amazing.  Even there are people like the President of India, we can say the President of the High Court…Judge of the Hauge high Court which is the world high Court…the President of that…he’s has got his realization and he is a Sahaja Yogi.  So we have people of that caliber who are Sahaja yogis and who have felt the vibrations, who have become self realized. But they are very humble people, extremely humble people.

Indians are basically humble and they know who is a saint and who is not a saint.  They are so sensitive that they know who is a saint and who is not a saint. But in the west as we have now lost our power to feel the saintliness in a person we do not know who is a saint, who is not a saint.  So the first thing that has to happen to you to understand who is a saint, who is not a saint, is first to get your realization.

Without the spirit expressing itself into your awareness, into your attention, you cannot make out who is a saint, or who is not a saint.  Like they crucified Christ for no reason at all. And they worshipped Hitler. The Jews, they refused to accept Christ, they refused. They said, no we don’t accept Christ.  Because Christ said that I am dying for your sins. They said, no we don’t believe in that. We must suffer. So they suffered. They had suffering. If you ask for suffering you’ll have sufferings.  But if they had accepted Christ at least one thing would have happened. They would not have suffered. They asked for suffering. They thought unless and until we suffer we cannot go to God. This was a very wrong idea.  Because Christ himself was a Jew. Himself He took birth in the…among the Jews. And it was the Jews He came to save. But they are the ones who refused to accept because they were blinded. They didn’t want to see the point.

In the same way it has happened in every century.  Anytime any incarnation came people did not want to accept.  Not in India, I would say. Indians are much more sensitive to spirituality because they are not so much [UNCLEAR TEXT].  They understand… because we have been for ages seeking and seeking from… traditionally. So we know what is..seeking is. What it means.  For Me its not difficult to talk to them about Kundalini. There I start on a different level altogether. Because they know everything whatever I’m talking, they know already, what it is.  May be not in the cities where the people are westernized. But they know. But for other people I have to start it from A to Z. So this is the Kundalini. We have got it. Three and a half coils, and it has a mathematical calculation.

Now it’s only Indians and Buddhists from Indians I would say believe in non-being.  They believe there’s a non-being. Being and non-being. What is that state of non-being?  When you become the non-being means when you go beyond your conditioning and ego then you become the non-being.  And ones you become the non-being then nothing can touch you. As I told you yesterday…who are standing in the water have fear of getting drowned in the water but if you go to the boat then you start seeing that the water is down below it is not going to touch you.  That state has to be achieved, is the non-being the fourth dimension within us. This is…is called also in Sanskrit as Turya dasha.

Now you might say why in India, these people discovered all that.  See now the reason is India is a very ancient country. And there we didn’t have these people that you had to face when you came to America.  You had to face the nature to begin with. We… our nature is very kind. You can live under a tree, eat the fruits of the forest and can enjoy ourselves.  We don’t need much in that country to cover ourselves or to have any elaboration. So the attention has been always inside to find out why are we here? What are doing here?  Are we wasting our lives? Are we doing any harm to ourselves or to others? Is it alright to exist as human beings or is there anything beyond? This search has been there for thousands and thousands of years.  And because of this seeking they have been able to reach, write conclusions that there is this Kundalini within us. And this Kundalini is to be awakened. And if She is awakened then you can become self very easily.  And this was the job I had to do. For that I had to work very hard for days together to understand, what was the problem with human beings, the permutations and combinations of problems that they had. And somehow I managed it, I think.  Now am-mass realization is possible.

Yesterday despite some people being mischievous you did get realization.  This is God’s work and God’s work will go on. Whether some people come and trouble you, makes no difference.  They are just like mosquitoes. They come and go away, has no meaning at all. Because you see God’s work is much greater than what they think of themselves.  So it is..it doesn’t matter what happens or what people say or talk. The God’s work will go on. But you must know it’s a living work. It is not a plastic thing.  You can produce thousands of plastic flowers very easily but you cannot produce one single living flower. So when this living force has to act it takes time. And it will take time, gradually it will grow.  And you’ll be surprised that gradually it will grow so beautifully that suddenly you find lots of people coming up and becoming. Because in Sahaja yoga what you become is important. It’s the actualization. It is not some certificate or some organization that you belong to.  Some organization or there is some certificate. But it is what you become. Your becoming is important if you cannot become something then you are no good in Sahaja yoga.

Many people who come to us we find they improve a lot and they become very great also.  But some people do not. They just waste it. Energy is all wasted whatever you try they do not.  Sometimes they are so conditioned that we cannot improve. There we feel helpless about them because they do not want to corporate also.  And also they have many pressures on them. But 90 % people go up very well and they manifest whatever they have achieved. Now the main thing is to understand that this mechanism exists within us.

This energy exists within us.  Now this is like a hypothesis for you.  You need not accept it. It’s an…hypothesis as one would put to a scientist.  But scientist must have an open…open mind. They shouldn’t have a closed mind.  If they have a barrier you cannot put anything before them. If they are scientist they will have an open mind to listen to My hypothesis.  And if it could be proved, if it could be proved then you have to accept it. If it is… doesn’t prove then you can say alright that’s not proved so far, alright.  So you have to wait and have patience with it. This is what it is in simple words that I cannot be forced on you. It cannot be humbled before. You have to ask for it.  Nobody can force you that you can become. I cannot guarantee yesterday I said. It’s a fact. But still so many people got their realization, felt the cool breeze and felt the cool breeze out of their head. This you cannot do otherwise. All other things you can do but this you cannot do, is to take cool breeze out of your head which is a factual thing and experienced.

But as I told you, we live mentally much more than we live with reality.  And mental projection can be anything like a person who murders someone. He has justification – I murdered someone because of this and this… But that justification does not allow you to get out of law.  Does it? No. You will be caught in the law. You cannot. Whatever is wrong you are not supposed to do it? But that is human law. In the same way there is God’s laws. And if you go against God’s laws then what happens is that we are punished.

Now today I am going to tell you about other awareness that one can have.  That one can know about. I am talking about super-consciousness which is on top of our head.  But when the attention moves to the left side too much or to the right side too much then also there could be a very, very big problem.  And the big problem can come because when we are not knowledgeable about it. We do not know. What is unknown need not be divine. Not at all.

Now when you start say becoming extremely submissive, slavish or you start following something vey blindly, you start becoming fanatic about it.  Just without thinking that what you are doing is not right or wrong you just follow something like that. We call it the left side movement of the attention starts where you start subduing yourself to something.  Subjecting yourself to something. Accept the slavery of some ideas. Accept the condition of some sort of theories. Now once you start accepting such theories mentally the attention starts moving towards the left side.  And also some people have a capacity to posses you like that. They can posses you and can do like that, that you lose all your freedom and you become that kind of person.

Then at that time what happens that you start moving from your conscious mind to the subconscious mind and then to the collective subconscious.  If you move to collective subconscious then what happens to you. If you move to the collective subconscious then the person becomes possessed. This possession comes to you through what we call the protein 52 or protein 58 in medical terminology.  They say that if a person is vulnerable to cancer it is triggered by the presence or entrance of protein 52 or protein 58. These are the names the doctors are given which trigger the disease and once that happens then a person cannot get out of cancer.  Because then the triggering starts and he starts getting from bad to worse. This 52 and 58, where do you find it? According to doctors you find 52 and 58 in the area which is built within us since our creation. This area is placed within us on the left-hand side as you can see.  Somebody can come and show.

On the left hand side this area is placed.  And this area one enters very easily. Say you go on taking somebody’s name.  Now a days it is a fashion to give you a mantra. Now start getting mantras, going on saying mantras, mantras, mantras.  Now what happens that you are not connected with the divine. And you start taking the name of some x,y,z. So you are not connected and you are just pressing hard your mind to get connected.  But it cannot because the Kundalini has not arisen so you move to the left side. And there you get caught up, and that’s why you know in the cult people are so much mesmerized. In every cult people get mesmerized because they move to the left.  For the domination of these gurus and things. Because they want to make money out of that. And then they cannot think of anything else. They just think this is the right thing.

I was amazed that some of the cults the guru don’t even know Sanskrit language.  Some of them have come out of the jail and they have become gurus. And they have give mantras which are so funny.  That somebody has been given mantra of Inga. There is no word like inga except for this word in a colloquial way is called inga when a spider or something, you can say, a scorpion has got the sting that is called as inga.  And this scorpion, when this scorpion hits it…to a person is called as the inga. Means that biting. Now that’s the mantra given to many people I was shocked and it was told not to tell anyone about. So if you tell to anyone he will just start laughing and roaring with laughter.

Another mantra I heard was thinga.  Meaning when you show someone like this is thinga.  In colloquial word, not in Sanskrit language… There is nothing like a gerund ‘ing’ in Sanskrit language.  It has no meaning. And everything is meaningful in Sanskrit. Even every syllable is meaningful. So such people have come over and have become great gurus.  And they give you names. May be the names of some proteins which exists and which enter into you and you get possessed.

So this left-side movement is a very common thing.  And once you get to this left-sided movement you cannot get out of it.  Its very difficult. So the people who have been to such people or to such enticement show immediately when they come to us for realization and that we don’t know how to deal with them.  Because if you tell them, ‘You forget your guru’ they don’t like. They go on contortions, their bodies start getting into contortions. They feel terrible. They cannot sit quite. They cannot move up.  But if you tell them that this was wrong, they don’t want to accept because they are still carrying on with the idea. And they don’t want to believe that whatever they were carrying on was wrong. That they have to accent.  Even when they accent they take time. This is one very big problem we face. But as a result of the left side movement you get most of the incurable diseases.

For example your AIDS disease that has come is because of the combination of the left side mooladhara center and heart…is that…that’s the one.  Of course it has to have swadishtana with it, left swadishthana. Is due to that. If somebody could cure these three centers of that person, that person can be cured.

Sclerosis comes from the same.  If somebody is suffering from multiple sclerosis, same problem…that it comes [from] mooladhara chakra, void and also sometimes the right heart.  Sclerosis…most of the muscular troubles go like that.

Then we have got cancer.  Cancer could be due to any…any chakra which is on the left hand side. Must be the combination of two chakras on the left hand side depending on where the….where the trouble is. But when the cancer trouble comes into the centre then it starts ascending.  Then it starts moving and you get galloping cancer. You can start going from one to another end and it can finish off a person. That’s how you can be just finished with a galloping cancer.

Now when somebody is vulnerable like I would say a person who is a very very active person, who is very much under shock all the time, is very very active and hectic, supposing he is a…getting up in the morning, reading newspaper and getting up into his bath and then getting ready somehow or other…and getting into his car and then going out in a very hectic manner he lives under shock…because he is reading horrible news then he is seeing a big jam on the street and all this things are happening, he is so full of anxieties, such a person is venerable to another thing called blood cancer.  But for that also the left nabhi, this side, is attacked. If left nabhi is attacked under these circumstances such a person can get a blood cancer.

Supposing your mother is like that, she is a very hectic person and she is trying to…she is trying to sort of do many things at the same time and she is of that nature then also the child can become trauma.  If a mother is very extreme type of a person or has gone through shocks like that…I have seen people who have gone through wars and have come out of problems. Their children also are very prone to troubles of the brain.  And they also get it because of the left side movement.

But the…as you go upward, as the chakras come upward on the left hand side, say the left agya is caught up and the left swadishtana is caught up, that means the person is completely possessed.  But with that if the heart chakra is caught up or with that if the vishudhi chakra is caught up then one can become mad. And such people could be there. But they become mad, they become alright, then become mad, like that you go on and ultimately they end up as mad people.

But in Sahaja yoga one can cure people who are mad but they have to be treated in a way.  Normally we do not take up any person who is a mad person in our yog because it is very difficult to cure them and better them.  But if they want to work it out on themselves we say aright work it out this way. Try if you can be alright. But there are many in between phases like schizophrenic you can call it or some people who are imbalanced, who are nervous, all kinds of things are in between.  So absolutely mad even if you forget but there are so many others who look same but inside they have problems. All such people can be cured with Sahaja yoga if they act according to what we tell them and the way it is to be worked on.

Now in Sahaja yoga the practices are extremely simple because its question of balance.  The left side catches…if the left side catches then you get all this problems. But if you can balance it, if you can balance left side with the right side, the troubles can be alright.

For example, if you have got say a left side problem and you do some right side activity of ego development you will be amazed that your cancer can be cured.  But then you go to the right side. That means you become ego oriented. You become extremely ambitious. You become futuristic. You start dominating others. And this is what was practiced by Hitler.  He got this knowledge from Dalai Lama. He said it in his book that he got it from Dalai Lama – How to control the minds of the people by which you dominate them and by domination what do you make out of them?  Devils. And that’s what he did it. Because they become so ambitions they become racist to begin with. They become racist. They think they are the best. They are the highest. They have the right to kill anybody they feel like.  They have the right to take revenge. They have a right to ill treat people. All kinds of funny ideas come into the heads, these right sided people.

And when they come into the right side they do not know what they are up to.  Because they…once they develop the right side then they have other troubles. Like they might develop blood pressure, they might develop kidney troubles, they might develop heart trouble.  Heart in the sense not angina and all but of a lethargic heart. But overactive heart, they can get a sudden massive heart attack and they may die with it. So such people are also suffering from all kinds of liver trouble.  Like cirrhosis of the liver. Liver…other liver troubles, skin troubles, skin problems, all these come from the right side.

So when you start moving to the right side too much you can be possessed by people who are overactive.  Like a ego oriented person if he becomes friendly with another egoistical person, both of them combined together in such a manner that they form a group of egoistical nature.  When they become egoistical they try to dominate and a big group can form…a frantic, horrible, violent group which can try to kill.

In India we had one such group which was formed, under the name of the Goddess they started it.  In India they all are called as Anand Marg. Of course it is now banned. The fellow is under supervision but still in America he has followers.  Surprisingly! They were caught killing some ambassadors and all that. And the leader had to go in the jail for days together. Everything happened but the followers, because they are so possessed with the idea that they are in charge and they have to kill everyone.  And that they have to become like Hitler. Now you cannot stop it. It’s very difficult. But you can if you can raise their Kundalini then they will understand this is not reality. We are just doing something that is not reality. Is not for our beneficiary…beneficiary or…neither for anybody else.  It’s such a dangerous thing we are doing to ourselves. It’s not at all benevolent to ourselves or to anybody else. So the benevolence only comes when you move outward.

The third we can say is the awareness of hell where people are really devilish by nature.  You cannot change them. They are very devil…devil like, very possessive type, extremely arrogant, aggressive, and they are really devils incarnate in human forms.  And such people have to go to hell. Because we can call them as the awareness of the hell. They always think of destruction, of destroying others, or overpowering others or of destroying themselves.  There are many bhoots you know who destroyed themselves. Just like that they killed themselves. These are all the people who are on the other side of the ascent.

So when you start rising higher and higher due to these chakras, and when the Kundalini rises through all these chakras and goes up beyond the sahastrara, as you call it the brahmarandra…here…you become a subtler being.  Like your human attention say….we can say is like cloth here. And now the Kundalini is pushing it upward, upward, like that. So all your attention which is outside goes inside. And when it pierces through from here, this piercing makes the attention subtle because the subtle that is around which you do not feel normally starts penetrating into it.  It starts covering your attention. And that’s how we say now your attention is enlightened. And now it is enlightened. Not just talk but it becomes enlightened with collective consciousness. You become collective conscious. Then such people when they talk…when they talk they have such a personality, such a knowledge. They become knowledge. They have no problems.  They become knowledge because they become the absolute.

But it is for you to decide.  What are you seeking in life? What do you want in life?  What is your life worth? If you want to cheapen your life, waste it for something very cheap and ordinary and useless then you can go ahead.  But if you think your life is important as a human being, it should be because you have become from amoeba to this stage as human being not to waste it.  Not to throw it away, uselessly, but to become the spirit. That’s what you have come on this earth for and that’s what should happen to you. Now the main problem with human beings is that there are barriers we have.  To accept anything we have barriers. But there is nothing to be accepted. In Sahaja yoga you need not accept anything what so ever but you should also not deny. If you deny I cannot raise your Kundalini. I cannot. You should allow your mind to be open to get realized.  Because one reason is there, why you have to do that more. Because you do not know about Kundalini.

People told Me they don’t even know what self-realization is.  Imagine in India when My grandchild was born we had our astrologer in My husband’s place, about two thousand miles away from where the child was born.  He sent a telegram saying that this child has found her guru…sadguru in the household. It was such a great thing to find a sadguru who will give realization to the child.  To us it is the most important thing. In a horoscope the first thing they’ll ask, “Will…shall we get self-realization in this lifetime or not?” Then they will say, “Alright, this life left [UNCLEAR TEXT].  May be next lifetime.” Then they’ll think, “Oh God, we have to wait one life time more.” And all the action is surrounding that.

The whole behavior that you must try to check your attention.  Chitta nirodh, try to check your attention. Wherever it wants to go just keep it out.  While here it is, “What’s wrong? So what?” If you want you jump in the sea. So what? Who are you to tell us?  It’s not that. There it is, you must control your attention. Control your attention. Keep the attention pure. If your attention is not pure at the time of realization there will be a problem.  It’s a just different attitude towards life.

If somebody is angry here people always say, “I hate you.”  I mean in India if a child says like that he will have two slaps on the face.  Its regarded bad manners to…even to think like that to hate anyone. To hate anyone is a sign of degraded personality.  I mean it’s very common with Indian people. Whatever you know of Indians are the people who have uprooted who have come here to make dollars.  They are different people. They are sort of sieved out. But the people who are in India,…not we have at least 20% people who have been to India.  You can ask them. To them generosity is a quality. Righteousness is a quality. Purity is a quality. Quietude is a quality. Peaceful nature is a quality.  They do not boast of their angers and they do not boast of their hatred at all. I mean it is never, never, never done. Even if somebody hates he will not say that I hate you.  I mean it took some time for Me to even say this sentence to people…like it is something prohibited. Because it…your tongue gets spoiled. If your tongue is spoiled and is impure then whatever you say becomes untruth.  Your tongue must be pure. You should not say something which is not true.

In the sense true doesn’t mean that supposing somebody is a person who to your mind is not a good person.  You shouldn’t say that. Need not say that you are not a good person. You just keep quite. Let him discover.  Because if he is bad he will suffer himself. This is a common attitude. I am not talking for Indians. But I must say for spiritual life one has to learn from them.  Some of them who were thugs must have come here to loot you. That’s a different point. I mean I am sorry for that. I am sorry. But I also blame you for your naiveness.  I came much before that. But I said you are not to pay to anyone any money. Nobody listened to Me. They didn’t like Me at all when I said that. So you…you had to suffer.  I know it was wrong but it happened.

Now at least people should realize that purity can only be achieved through self-realization.  Innocence can be awakened within you on the first chakra. On the first chakra you develop innocence.  In the second chakra you develop creativity. I’ve known people who never used to sing have started singing very well.  Who never used to create anything have started creating beautiful paintings. They have become great painters. Now, very well known painters, musicians.  Those who were never doing architecture have become great architects. And who are…never done any interior decoration have achieved a lot. So to say that we are very creative one must know that you have limited energy and for that you have to be connected to the mains.  So the…all the time the energy is flowing into you.

Then on top of that is the third center which is the center of your seeking.  So whatever you were seeking was not alright. But you do get your material well being.  No doubt. You do get your material well being but up to a point where you feel absolutely satisfied about it .  You don’t need anything anymore. You also get a great blessing of dignity and divinity. You get a proper understanding of your being.  You become like a king. For a king what we call the emperor, he doesn’t need anything. For example as you know I am born of a very rich family and it’s a royal family and My husband also is a very rich man.  It’s alright, we live in a very great comfort no doubt. But I can sleep anywhere. I can sleep on the street, I can live anywhere. I am not bothered where I live, what I do, how I move. I have no problem. Because… if you are the emperor you don’t ask for anything.  Do you? If you get the food…alright, if you don’t…alright. If you like some food, or don’t like the food…somebody says I have said, “I don’t know what I ate in the morning. I don’t know what I am going to eat now. I don’t know if I had my lunch or not. If I’ve had…alright…otherwise you can do what you like.  It’s that simple. Your body becomes your slave. You can lie down anywhere you feel like. You can do any amount of travelling. You can do thousand and one things. You become so dynamic. That happens when your Laxmi tattwa is arisen.

There are four Laxmi tattwas within us.  It’s the first, is the laxmi tattwa where you become a person very dignified and endowed with material comforts.  But comfort which kill you is not there. Comfort means you are materially no more bothered. You get jobs. In London we have so many jobless people.  But in Sahaja yoga all those who are there, all of them have got jobs. All of them. Its difficult to find one person who hasn’t got the job. Moreover it is compulsory in Sahaja yoga that those who stay in the ashram must have some jobs.  We have tried to allow some people to come without that but we had very bad experiences of such people. So all those who are living on dole or some sort of a thing, we don’t allow them to come in the ashram. And you will be surprised that as soon as they join Sahaja yoga they get jobs.  They get better and better jobs because Krishna has said yoga kshema vahamyaham. When you get your yoga your well being will be looked after. He didn’t say kshema-yoga, he didn’t say I’ll look after your well being and then you go to yoga, no. First yoga. Yoga kshema vahamyaham. First you get the yoga and then the kshema will occur.  That’s what happens to you on the nahbi chakra, which is very important. But Raja Laxmi that is you become like a king.

That you become Gruha Laxmi or gruhastha means you become a house holder.  You become a good wife and a good husband. You develop proper feelings for each other.  And you develop proper feelings for your children. You improve your societies through that essence if it is born in you that you understand the importance of a good family life.  And that automatically happens. You don’t have to tell anybody. Just those people who hated each other after coming to Sahaja yoga have started loving each other, understanding and enjoying each other.  And married life in Sahaja yoga is tremendous. Ninety percent of married life is so great that people in America where they divorce third year, every third year, we have seen people are doing very well in the married life, even in America.  Even here the…you see the mental projection, the wife is no good, the husband no good, all vanishes. You become the spirit. You start enjoying the deeper significance of marriage.

Then comes the fourth side of the Laxmi tattwa.  Is the fourth side is the ascending side. The people who have got more money are fed up and now want to have something beyond.  In the same way in Sahaja yoga when you start moving then you find that nothing but spiritual life gives you real joy. So you just don’t care for anything else but the spiritual life.  And what is the spiritual life of Sahaja yoga is that you become the light and you give light to others. Selflessly, there is no selfish motive in it. Just because you are the light you become the light, you don’t see the light, you become the light.  And you give light to others and just do it selflessly, without charging any money. Without asking for anything you just start giving what you have got. Spontaneously without paying for it. You just do it in a way that is a saintly way. Saints always spent their own money, always have spent their own money to give joy to others.  They have never taken money from anyone. I mean I have not heard of any saint who has built up big palaces and big places and big organization, never. That’s not a sign of a saint.

A saint just emits compassion and this compassion doesn’t speak.  It is silent, this compassion acts. It doesn’t speak. It acts. When it acts it works out wonders.  That’s what you know when Christ was touched by some lady, he said some energy has flown through Me. That is what it is.  That the energy starts flowing through you and you do not do anything just happens automatically. Without doing anything you achieve it.

So for today I think I have come up to the Nabhi chakra.  Tomorrow I’ll tell you about other chakras in better, elaborate way that you will understand what is the essence of these chakras.  That what becomes of you. They have descried to you the chakras but why these chakras. What do they mean? These are the different evolutionary milestones within us which have been crossed and the last one is this one which you have to cross now.  That’s all.

See you are just ready for it.  You are made for this. God has made you for this.  Its best is that you get to it. And that’s why I was yesterday asking question and people have now told Me, “Mother please don’t ask questions because it’s a waste, it’s a waste of time.”  Those people who are asking questions are not asking any sensible questions. They are not bothered about themselves… why…how they are spending their lives. Of course some people asked very sensible questions also I must say but there’s no need to ask questions.  Let us see if it works out within in you. If it works out will be a good idea. Now you want to have realization first? (crowd responds)