Talk to Sahaja Yogis about children, Vienna, 1986

Shri Mataji: Sit down, no more anger. Now quietly, the babies eat. What was the matter? So much of heat, he? Now you’re all right.

[To another baby] Just take it, take some more. What about him? You didn’t take any? Come along, come along, have some chana, all the children should have. All right, have some more. Good. All right, who else? Come along, come, come. Yes, Good! Bridget’s children are here, are they? Oh Bridget’s, no I’m saying this – our Antoinette’s children are they here? No.

Sahaja Yogi: No.

Shri Mataji: They have gone back? They have gone back. They are very thin now, must do something about them. They require some liver treatment I think, both the children are very thin. All the children must be giving calcium somehow. Do you get here some good calcium for children?

Sahaja Yogi: Yes.

Shri Mataji: What is it called as?

Sahaja Yogi: They’re just tablets, Shri Mataji.

Shri Mataji: Interesting? Are they interesting? In India, we get very good ones. Let us see what do you get here, you see because –

Sahaja Yogi: You can buy some of.

Shri Mataji: All right, so we’ll take for England also. England you don’t get for children.

Sahaja Yogi: Children have calcium tablets, Mother…

Shri Mataji: But they’re not interesting ones, children don’t like. It’s something like calcium oil we have in India. Children like it very much to eat. You have to hide the bottle!

[Laughter]
Shri Mataji [to the baby in Her lap.]: You can’t eat, I’m sorry.

He’s quite relieved now, see. His feet where all, (scrunch) like that. Now he’s all right. Mmhm, now good friendship. He has a liver, little liver, that’s why. Whose baby is this one? Yes, ah I see.

[The mother comes to the baby but he does not show interest in her.] [Laughter]

Shri Mataji: Don’t want to see her. See, that’s it.

Sahaja Yogi: No chance. [Laughter]

Shri Mataji: Yes, left-sided! [Laughter] You are too more. All right, see how it is working on your left side. So they can see, clearly, children.

They’re great saints, you know when they’ll be grown up, you will say, “We have no problems”. They won’t have problems as you have, no, none. Keep happy, you must keep happy otherwise the child suffers.

He’s getting it again. See now smiley. It’s good now, now good, no problem. No problem, it’s all right, beautiful, all right? Ha. Just see the thing. Look at the children and how they feel the vibrations. Now we wish we could be like them, isn’t? They are just enjoying, nothing. They give joy! Such a beautiful boy. So now go to mummy, all right. That’s it.

Shri Mataji [to the little boy]: Now you go and give it to everyone, to all the children. Go, give it to children, all right. Now give it to the child, give it to her. They like to do it, you know.

No, no, no to her.

[The Child eats it himself] [Laughter].

Shri Mataji: Children!

Nice to play with them.

Now you take this, give it to that girl, give it to her. Hello, you see, you give it to her. Give her, give her now, come along. Put it, give it to her, yes in the mouth. Now give it to her, there.

Sahaja Yogi: He’s working very hard, Shri Mataji.

Shri Mataji: Poor Bogdana, all of you enjoy the children, that’s all. It’ so enjoyable. So interesting, they are so interesting, you can just go on watching with them such joy, such love, such love.

Now Linats, [unsure] you see, shy style has started now. He’s become a little shy type, you see that’s an age when they start feeling shy and then Markandeya was like that, now Markandeya has become a little more confident.

Sahaja Yogi: Most of the time he’s shy.

Shri Mataji: So, Markandeya, I’ll take your daddy and you both to London, all right?

Markendeya: OK.

Shri Mataji: Wilma? You going back to Rome?
Wilma: I would like to go Shri Mataji but this body needs a little bit service.
Shri Mataji: Little bit what?
Wilma: A little bit service. My body.
Shri Mataji: Servicing your body. Ya?
A Sahaja Yogi: A little bit rest.
Shri Mataji: Wilma, you are you younger to me.
[Laughter]

Shri Mataji: Think of me. You see, if the mind is still, you don’t need any rest. Get your body massaged, nicely. All right?
Sahaja Yogini: Yes, Shri Mataji.
Shri Mataji: These India girls can do very good massage. They can do very good massage. You see, especially Sharminda.
Wilma: Sharminda, yes.
Shri Mataji: Ah, she’s very –
Wilma: I ‘ll get it from Sharminda.
Shri Mataji: She did my massage very well.

What are you doing, come here, come. Have some chana, come along, have some chana, have some. Now where are you going to school – or where are you going? What is this? Huh what do you have in your purse?
[The boy opens his bag.]
Nothing?
[The boy shows a tennis ball.]
Shri Mataji: Oh, I see, that’s the best place to keep it.

Sahaja Yogi: Shri Mataji.
Shri Mataji: Yes, yes please. Come along, Markandeya, you also.
He ‘ll become a great man now, Markandeya, very stylish, you see.

Real Sahaja Yogis! [Hindi] You also take it, come along, have some. Let the children have it. You must get lots of chana for these children, very good for muscles and very good for their health. It’s very good, very good for them. Come along, have it. In both the hands – I’m sorry I drop it the other side, it’s all right, doesn’t matter.

[Cut in the video- 12:32]

… and evening time, you just tied up with some cloth and put it in the water little bit and they sprout. That’s very good for them, that’s B complex, very good for them, children – chana, raw chana. It’s ideal for them. They’ll enjoy it and also for Sahaja Yogis, if you can soak them tonight, tomorrow I’ll make something nice out of them.
Do you get puff rice here? Puff rice. Also get some puff rice. You see, these are good for children. Puff rice is very good and I’ll make something nice for them they will enjoy it.

You have got turmeric power in the- here? Turmeric powder?
Sahaja Yogini: Turmeric powder, yes.
Shri Mataji: It’s all right.

[Children are eating the chanas.]
Shri Mataji: You’d better have some otherwise they are all finishing off. Just take it. You too, come along. Get some more chana if you have, for children. If they eat chana, they need not eat food.
There’s no need for them to have food if they eat chana, such a protein, so balanced! And also you can make it into a kind of a paste, grind it and paste it. And you make a, isn’t it? In a -. what you call – that is in Lebanon and things they make something, called as -.
Sahaja Yogi: Hummus, Mother.
Shri Mataji: Hummus, hummus. Many children love it. But with less of fat.

Shakti, what do you want? Chana. You want chana? It’s hot for her [vest], take it out, it’s very hot. We take it out, this thing is very hot for you. Better take out, take out, take out. No good for you, it gives you perspire.
[Shri Mataji blows on Shakti to cool her down.]

This is another kind. Eat less, take little, little, not necessary.
Child: And [unclear] to eat it.
Shri Mataji: All right.
They become so- you can see they overcome their negatives- children. And they become so sensible. It’s because they are born Realised.
That’s a flower.
Child: Yes.
Shri Mataji: You like it?
Child: Hmm.
Shri Mataji: Give them the way they are eating.
Girl: [A sound]
Shri Mataji: What’s that? You eat it.

You never knew that children enjoyed chanas so much!
[Laughter]

Shri Mataji [to a girl]: All right, put your hair at the back. They are coming on the face. Put them properly.
[Children come to eat chanas. One child gives some to Shri Mataji]
Shri Mataji: Nice, thank you, thank you.

[Children talking to each other.]
Little boy: Shatki is eating from the floor.
Shri Mataji: You like this one better? because it’s a little salty.
Nanaka: This one is much better.
Shri Mataji: This, this you like better. But it has something you see, you like it with the, they like it with the [Hindi]. Wow, very nice.

[The little boys talking to each other].

Nanaka: Shakti don’t eat things from the floor.
Shri Mataji: Let her be there, dont get up [unclear].

Nanaka: She eats like a dog.
Shri Mataji: Eat’s like a dog?
Nanaka: There’s a dog eating –
Shri Mataji: How they like chana?
Nanaka: Look how they eat.
Shri Mataji: Dog eats like that! Is it?
Nanaka: Yes.
Shri Mataji: But we are not dogs eh? No.

Nanaka: Yes, they do like this. They can do like this and they put their food in the nose. Put their food in the food, the nose.

Shri Mataji; They put their nose there. They also put there nose, nose in the milk.
[A child speaking to Shri Mataji (inaudible)]
Shri Mataji: I’m going to have nine dogs!
Children: Nine?!
[Laughter]
Child: That is big.
Shri Mataji: Very big and small also.
Nanaka: They’re going eat us?
Shri Mataji: No, no, no. They are going to love you. They will never eat.

[Children speaking to Shri Mataji about dogs (inaudible)]

Shri Mataji: Dogs don’t like chanas, thank God.
[Laughter]
Shri Mataji: They won’t have your chanas. Everything (polish now unclear).
[To a girl who is feeding the baby Shakti] No, no, no, no, be careful, be careful. She can’t so much. Very little she – let her have her own way.

[Children chatting.]

Shri Mataji: Yes Shakti? Are you eating chana?

Boy: Mathilde, voilà. [Here you are Mathilde].
Girl: Et monsieur, madame. [Mr and Mrs]
[Children repeat it.]
Shri Mataji: Who’s a ‘monsieur’ [sir] here?

Sahaja Yogi: Not Shakti here.
Shri Mataji: She’s a ‘madame’[lady].
You know French? You know how to speak French?
Nanaka: Yes, I know.
Girl: I know my daddy do speak French.
Other boy: My daddy know French.
Shri Mataji: Nobody knows?
Other boy: My daddy knows.
Shri Mataji: Your daddy knows French, really?
[Laughter]

[Children talking to Mother (inaudible)]

Boy: [Unclear] speak French to me.
Shri Mataji: You can speak? Oh I see.

[Children talking to each other.]

Shri Mataji: French they are using, just to joke, you know. French is a joke for them.
[Laughter]

Boy: All the chanas are finished.
Shri Mataji: Let it be, let it be. Finish it off it nicely.
You want, you want?

Boy: Monsieur, madame [unclear language].
[Shri Mataji picks up Shakti. Children are speaking an unclear language]
Shri Mataji: You dare not speak French otherwise you we be called ‘monsieur’ or ‘madame’ [sir or lady].
[Laughter]

Nanaka: [Unclear] to put our nose in the food.
Shri Mataji: Ah, ha.
Nanaka: Put it on your food, on your ego!

[Big laughter]

Shri Mataji: Look at them how interesting they are. You know very good entertainment.

Nanaka: Put some on your head, in your ear you got skin.

Shri Mataji: How did they learn these things you see? They are [unclear] Sahaja Yogis.

[Boys putting chana’s in each other’s ears.]

Shri Mataji: Not that, not that. Come here, oh! Finish, finish, finish, ah leave it here. Now don’t take the plate. You’re not going to eat the plate are you, are you going to eat the plate also? All right, keep it here. Now who is going to clean this?

Hello! No, no, no. You want chana, chanas gone in the stomach.

Nanaka: Ah the baby wants. (chanas from the floor)

Shri Mataji: No, no don’t give it to the baby. She too small, she hasn’t got teeth like yours. Have you got your teeth? You have got your teeth?

Nanaka: Yes.

[Shri Mataji giving Shakti kisses and laughing.]

Shri Mataji: She’s a very happy child, extremely happy. She doesn’t like because she can’t chew it, she doesn’t have big teeth.

Nanaka: They’ve got baby ones.

Shri Mataji: You are big now, you’re a big boy now. You’ve become a big boy now isn’t it. But must be enjoying them all the time. The way they sit, you see. The way they sit is just a seed of a – his name is Nanaka, Nanaka used to sit just like this.

Nanaka, how did you just sit like this, let us see. You’re sitting very nicely like that. How do you sit like that? Let’s this crossed legged, no, just now you were putting your leg on top.

Sahaja Yogi: Like this.

Shri Mataji: With the leg on top. Great!

Nanaka: Make my mummy do, show it to my mummy, like this.

Shri Mataji: Show you, this way.

Nanaka: You put it like there.

Shri Mataji: That’s good.

Hello, hello, hello, hello, yes, yes, hello. Look at that, now she’s coming here. That’s the best fall. From very childhood you make them sit on the ground and all that? And on the.. you see how you call it. With the knees you see, bent. That is very important, all this will help them a lot.

What’s her name?

Nanaka: It’s Leslie.

Shri Mataji: Leslie.

Sahaja Yogis: Daisy.

Shri Mataji: Daisy, Daisy, yes. That’s my name too.

Nanaka: No.

Shri Mataji: Yes, also my – another name is Daisy. I have two names, ah what is my name?

Nanaka: Mataji, Shri Mataji.

Shri Mataji: Nirmala Devi, all right. One is Nirmala and the other is Daisy, I have two names. Have you seen a flower of daisy? Have you seen a flower of daisy? What colour? What is the-

Nanaka: [Blue unclear]

Shri Mataji: No White.

Nanaka: White.

Shri Mataji: White, we’ll show you all right. We’ll show you a daisy. You must teach them about flowers, what flowers there are, what colours, you see it’s- that very good thing. Different type of flowers, from childhood you know it’s very easy.

Now I think I should see some people inside the room if you wanted. They’re coming, what time they are coming.

Sahaja Yogi: 8 o’clock there’s still people coming. But they can wait.

Shri Mataji: Because one or two persons are [unclear]. So I’ll go in the room now.

Sahaja Yogi: Yes, Shri Mataji.

Shri Mataji: I will not wear shoes, it’s all right.

Sahaja Yogi: No, it’s something.

Shri Mataji: Just take them.

Shakti: Chores, chores.

Shri Mataji: She’s saying shoes, shoes. Shakti? All right, I’m coming back all right. Now you enjoy yourself.