Conversation Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

TRANSCRIPT OF CONVERSATION AT KEW ASHRAM MELBOURNE, 1987-0512 Shri Mataji: Really? Sahaja Yogi: Can’t… can’t focus Yes. Shri Mataji: The whole mind is conditioned. Australian Sahaja Yogi 1: I mean, absolutely. It is like a record. Like a gramophone record going round. Shri Mataji: Yes. I have seen this in China when, I went there when Mao was there. See, the girl used to tell us anything as if it was a record – she was just saying it, without even thinking about it. See then I felt that this is some sort of a possession this girl has got. But now, of course, Chinese have got their freedom and they are much better people, I mean they’re not that kind. But in the beginning, they did that like that in China and this is how they just conditioned them. But all our theological colleges, all these people are the same. They are just trying to find out how to condition people. I mean, if they give all their business and just take to God, they will be so very much happier. And all this effort will be lost. Very serious things. You see, for Christian community especially I think, it is that because of these barriers, they may never reach God. It’s all right for Christians in the West because they have seen the nonsense of it, most of them.  But in the countries like ours, you see which are developing, for them Christianity being so sophisticated, so good Read More …

Interview Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

Interview with Shri Mataji, Melbourne, Australia, 12-05-1987 Interviewer: Thank you for the invitation. This is an interview with Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on the 12th of May, 1987. Interview begins 5 seconds from now.  Interviewer: Shri Mataji, we’ve been told that there were three thousand people at your program in Sydney and the hundreds rushed forward after the program to speak to You and to shake You by the hand. This is a very unusual thing in Australia. Why do you think this happened? Shri Mataji: I think there were not three thousand, maybe less, because the whole didn’t counting many people. But there were quite a lot, about two thousand. And they did rush to thank Me and their eyes were glancing with light and their faces were looking very enlightened and happy, joyous. Because this is the greatest thing that can happen to human beings. In many ages it happens: the rebirth of a person. And they felt the rebirth within themselves. The peace within themselves and the cool breath coming out of their own heads and all that convinced them and that’s why they just came to thank Me. Out of gratitude, I think. Interviewer: With your respect, Shri Mataji, the world is full of people promising the millennium. One by one they becoming exposed as charlatans, tricks us. How can we know when we have been deluded? Shri Mataji: I have been telling from 1981, in Australia, I visited four times before; every year openly telling Read More …

The Purpose is to know the Truth Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne (Australia)

Public Program Day 1. Melbourne (Australia) 12 May 1987. I bow to all the seekers of truth. You are all here to seek the truth. One has to realize that truth is what it is. We have to know the truth; Truth does not have to know us. And the truth lies within us, within our being and the instrument of knowing the truth is what he has described it to you today. Now if you have got your eyes, you can see clearly that this is a white color. You don’t have to pay to your eyes for that – that’s a truth. You all see the same thing. If you are passing through a dirty lane, it’s obnoxious and you know it’s a dirty lane you’re passing through. But a dog does not know the truth, a horse does not know. They can all pass through that without feeling anything about it. So you are at a higher level than all the animals put together, all the living things that you see, you are at a higher place. So, what is the purpose of our being human-beings. The only purpose is to know the truth. Many people say that truth is love and love is truth. People don’t understand. At human level it’s a very illusive, deceiving sentence. Maybe, love may not be the truth, truth may not be love. But when they say truth is love, they mean to say that the All- Pervading power of God’e Read More …