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Puja for the 79th Birthday, Delhi (India), 21 March 2002.
[Scanned from DCB Translation from Hindi to English]
I am seeing the magnitude of love. How it has spread all over! To how many people? No one knows. But I have understood its Philosophy.
Could there be any Philosophy of love? Love has no Philosophy.
Like a huge expanse l.ove spreads all over.
quarrel with them. You are Sahaja Yogis. There should be no other feeling in your heart but love. When we look at the problems of our country, we fail to understand as to why man has created all this turmoil in the name of religion! What was the necessity? Something begins, then it has a reaction which is much more than the action The sensitivity and experience of God is reduced by such activities. We have to try to understand as to how to encourage love How could we express our love and make it flourish.
First of all vve should take care of our children. What are we teaching them? If someone slaps our child, doWe are not aware of it. we do not know- it. But the love of God is all! pervading, pervades all over the universe. You could experience it only after getting Self-Realization. Only then you could know that this Love alone is the power of God. Then power of love works out. However, we don’t understand it.
It is very mean to hate someone, to be malicious towards others and to quarrel with them. You are Sahaja Yogis. There should be no other feeling in your heart but love. When we look at the problems of our country, we fail to understand as to why man has created all this turmoil in the name of religion! What was the necessity? Something begins, then it has a reaction which is much more than the action The sensitivity and experience of God is reduced by such activities. We have to try to understand as to how to encourage love How could we express our love and make it flourish.
First of all vve should take care of our children. What are we teaching them? If someone slaps our child, do we tell the child to go and hit him? If we tell our child that it is alright, the one who has slapped you is not wise enough. He will be alright and be friendly with you. The heart of the child is very innocent. He will immediately understand if he is told that slapping is bad. of course, but it will be worse if you also do the same. Child will know that fighting with each other is bad. This quality is to be developed from very childhood. In childhood the children arc told that you are Muslims, Hindus, etc. The poor child cannot understand all these things. He thinks I am like all other people-my features are the same. Then why are they telling me like this? So this Greed and Hatred are our evil tendencies. These tendencies could be destroyed by Sahaja Yoga. The evil tendencies should be eradicated completely. Only then we could know about God and ourselves.
May God Bless You.
I’m telling them about love, all-pervading love of God Almighty. He’s created this whole thing. The whole atmosphere is there. The whole feeling is there of love. But it’s possible only for people who are innocent, like children. If you are very mature in your hatred, no one can save you. You’ll have ten arguments to show that your hatred is justifiable. Then you’ll go to any extent to justify it.
We had people in our country, which is a very, supposed to be a very sober country, a very peaceful country, we had people who just believe in killing — kill this, kill that. So even in this country, which didn’t believe in all these things, indulged into all kinds of violence since long.
But basically we are people who believe in peace, because without peace no growth can take place. There has to be complete peace. If there is peace in your heart, if there is peace surrounding you, you grow into a beautiful nation. Not out of fear, not out of pressure, but from inside, if you are a person who has complete peace within the heart, not that he is not afraid of anything, but he emits peace, he gives peace. Anybody who goes near such a person, gets the peace, the feeling of peacefulness.
You all are Sahaja Yogis. You all have got your Realisation, that is, your Spirit is now emitting vibrations of peace and joy. Wherever you are, you will emit peaceful vibrations. You will create peace. You’ll find out ways of creating peace, how to establish peaceful atmosphere. It’s very important that we have to grow in such a manner that we create peace and give peace to others and become examples of it.
I cannot believe in this Delhi: I could have so many people who are realised souls. I never expected. First of all, I had to wait until people got into a proper mind to understand My work, because we had partition and so many people lost their lives, lost their properties and I have faced all that. I have seen it Myself. And they just couldn’t, couldn’t forgive other people.
So forgiveness is a very good method of understanding the pain of others; troubles of others, but this depth you have to develop. Instead of getting angry, getting revengeful, if you can develop that peace within yourself, if you can manage to have the peace of your mind through divine love, there’s no need for you to do anything extra. It’s just the peace that you have, now, in your heart. Just feel it. You are a peaceful person. You are not a person who is easily disturbed. You will never give explanations for getting angry, for spoiling the mood of people. You will not do that. You are the one who rise[s] above all this anger and this stupid revengefulness.
It is difficult to explain to those people who are not realised souls, because if I talk, they won’t like it. If they get their Realisation, you can talk to them. So best thing is that you should spread Sahaja Yoga. Spread it among Sikhs, among Muslims, among Christians, throughout; and specially among Hindus.
Because nowadays I find Hindus are also, have lost their grip over their understanding of our country and its culture. And that’s how they just revenge, they take revenge. I don’t understand this kind of revenge. But what to do? People are already on that level, on that low level, where they don’t understand many things.
For example now, they do not want people to build a temple of Shri Rama at a particular point. Because they are not Sahaja Yogis, I can’t talk to them that that is the place where He was born. So we must pay full respect to His incarnation. If that is the place He was born, we can feel it with the vibrations, then why deny the fact and the truth just because you don’t want it to be done? It’s very difficult to talk to them.
What to understand is that, what has Babur done for us? Who was Babur? He was a foreigner and this one was not even built by Babur [Mughal emperor]. No, it was not. It was somebody who was his — one of the military man who went and built it [Mir Banki, a Shia Musulman Mughal] and that’s why they call it a Babri Masjid [Mosque of Babur].
But let us find out what happened to this Mr. Babur. He died, but he came from abroad. He was not even an Indian. And doesn’t matter, he was not born there. I mean, he had nothing to do with that place, but definitely I know and you all will know, can feel it all on your hands just now, that it is Babri Masjid, is the place where Shri Rama was born.
Now, if you want to build a temple there, what will go wrong with people? What will happen to them if a temple is built there? I mean, it is just a question of respect and feelings about it. I also take Rama’s name. Everybody takes His name because such a solace and such a comfort. But the way people look at things, it’s difficult, you can’t talk to them.
Now they are talking about another nonsense that we have one hair of Mohammed-sahib in Kashmir. Now somebody said that it is not His hair. How do you know? What is your criteria to decide whose hair it is? Actually, you will be amazed, when I went to Kashmir, we were going somewhere in the car and suddenly I felt tremendous vibrations. So I asked the driver, “Why don’t you take the car on this side?” He said, “Why?” “Because I want to go.” He said “It is an old road and there are some few people living there.” “It doesn’t matter. Take it.” We went near and nearer and there were some houses of Muslims, so we called them and asked them, “What is here going on?” They said, “It is Hazrat Bal.” Even the name gives vibrations, gives you such peace. It was the hair of Muhammed-sahib!
Now Hindus don’t want to know about Him and Muslims don’t want to know about Shri Ram. It’s very surprising. They are all having their own shops and selling there own things, but they don’t understand that, whatever they are selling is the same which the other people are selling. For example, they say, “Allah.” Who is Allah? According to Sahaj Yog, Allah is nobody else but Vishnu and Vishnu who came also as Shri Ram. So whatever they call as Allah is Shri Ram Himself ! Only a Sahaj Yogi can understand that. If you put up your hands now when I am talking, you will be surprised what vibrations have come, because it is Shri Ram, who is Allah, whom you are trying to insult by your stupidity.
So it could be stupidity on part of Muhammed-sahib or on part of Hindus. Hindus are also not understanding, somehow they know that is the birthplace of Shri Ram, somehow, I don’t know, somebody must have told them. Or maybe — I don’t know how they know — they don’t know vibrations. I haven’t yet met many Hindus who have vibration — I mean those who are what you can call fundamentalist. They never have vibrations. So I used to wonder, how do they know this is the Janmabhoomi [birth place] of Shri Rama. Maybe, somehow they come to know. But they have no point to prove. The problem is, if they were Realised souls, if our high court judges were Realised souls, if our cabinet were realised souls, you could have talked to them. But they are all — what should I say? — absolutely blocked people. How to tell them that this quarrel is a nonsense? It is perfectly all right to build a temple of Shri Ram. But whatever you may say, the trouble is first they all should get their Self Realisation.
Just now, at the time when we are talking, see, there are not sufficient people who have got Self Realisation. You are all Realised souls. There was another one who told Me, who was giving Realisation to these Mahantas — Mahantas [superior of a monastery] are the people who are suppose to be saints — and every one of them, when they got Realisation, they got exposed, so he didn’t know what to do with them. That may happen with anyone, even in Christian churches or you go to Jews — everywhere you’ll find this is the problem. If you give them Realisation, they will get exposed. So what’s the use of disturbing all the people who have such faith in them and think they’re very great people.
Now only way you can judge them is through vibrations. But out of love, I can’t tell them that: “You are not Realised souls. You have no business to talk about Shri Ram or about Mohammed-sahib. They’re much beyond you.”
So the problem now is between the people who are not knowledgeable and those who are knowledgeable. It was a very big gap before. Only one person used to be a Realised soul; so they used to stone him, beat him, do all kinds of things. Now you are so many. So, if you put up your case anywhere, even at this stage, nobody is going to listen to you.
I would request you only one thing. Give Realisation to people, as many as possible, and not to any ‘spiritual’ so-called people. Because they get exposed, what’s the use?
This is a common thing. So many people have told Me: “We gave Realisation to one priest. He got exposed.” “Means, what happened?” “He was exposed, Mother. He was put in jail.” “Ah, this is too much. After getting Realisation, he goes to jail.” So this is the problem. In love, you cannot be hypocritical about it. Love — you have to be a pure personality. Strive to purify yourself. You have to change. If you are still angry, if you are still greedy, if you have all these things, love won’t work out. It won’t work out.
So to love someone in a divine way is to first understand the value of innocence. Why I love children? Because they’re innocent. They don’t have all these things. Like in our country these days, the epidemic — epidemic of corruption has started — epidemic. It’s not simple. Anybody you see, after every third person, there’s an epidemic of corruption. Now why? Because they want money. All right. Then what do they do with their money? They don’t know how to hide, so they put it in some sort of pot or whatever it is and the money gets lost. If not, they are caught up. That’s not so important. What’s important is : ‘Why have this greed?’ People who are rich are more greedy than the people who are poor, because the poor people at least have some fear of God. But the rich are very greedy. They’re running after this, running after that. There’s no end to it. It is very surprising that in this country of ours this new disease has started. With this disease, even in Sahaja Yoga, there are some people who have made a business out of Sahaj Yog and making money. So greed is something that comes to you from the right side and you start justifying it. There’s no place for love, for the right side.
Now this greed has gone so far that the whole country is getting ruined. We can never progress. We can never achieve anything because everywhere there’s greed when people are just taking it. But if you love your country, if you have love for your country, you won’t do [it]. But that love is missing. They love — I don’t know whom do they love. They love their children in such a way that they ruin their lives.
Love is not limited. Love has to be unlimited, unlimited love which binds the whole world. There is this force, there is already acting this force; only thing you have to become the agents of that, to become the people who can communicate that love. You have every right to that great wealth of love and you can spread that all along. But I find that even here people think in the terms of money. Money is the enemy of love. I assure you that if you have interest in money, you can never progress in Sahaja Yoga.
I’m hopeless, I agree. I don’t know how to take interest even. What is so interesting about it? And people laugh at Me that : “You don’t know simple things, even to count the money.” I said, “I know. I can tell you like this, how much money’s there, but I’m not interested.”
There’s so many other things to be interested. You see the children. You see nice, nice people. In the whole world, there are so many beautiful people, beautiful things. Why pay so much attention to this useless stuff, which comes and goes? But that is what is the most — I should say — gripping thing that is also there.
In India is the worst, I think. They say that India is the most corrupt country, but I don’t know. I have never seen that kind of thing, but must be true. On such an occasion, it’s very auspicious that you should think that money is of no value to you, has no value, and you will be amazed, you will have never thirst of money — absolutely. This is one thing in Sahaja Yoga you have to get, that money is of no value. There’s no interest in money. Your money is in getting how many people you have in Sahaja Yoga, how many people you have brought in Sahaja Yoga, how many people have got this joy. You have not purchased it. Nobody has to purchase it. It’s free, flowing everywhere. It’s so joy-giving. What else do you want with money? Nothing. Just with money — headaches, fear and all kinds of problems.
So, parallel to our Sahaja Yoga, it should be the life of freedom, complete freedom and enjoyment, nothing to worry about. Nothing is dependent on money. I have seen people living in very poor conditions, extremely happy and joyous; while those who have lots of money, specially in the foreign countries, are rich people, they have depression, all kinds of funny, funny situations there. They commit suicides. Why? If money was everything, why all the rich country people commit suicide? What is the gain they have? See, and all the time what they are thinking, how to get into a kind of a fashion. Fashion, because if you have no money, you cannot get into those fashions. The fashions are so common now, so common, that for that people hanker. If they cannot get to the fashions, they think that something has gone wrong with them, something is — But not you because you are Sahaja Yogis.
Now you see these things happening, so what have you to do? Have pity for such people — no contempt, but pity — and you have to tell them that “What are you doing? Why are you wasting your time? This is the best time for you to reach the highest goal of your life, of Self Realisation and why are you so much running after all these things? What is it that makes you run this rat-race?”
I think it’s a breaking point everywhere and people are thinking, but you are the people who should provide. In a very large scale, you can work it out.
I mean, I have seen people who have nothing in them. They are not spiritual. They are not the ones who can give Realisation or anything. But just because they are doing some social work, they are very famous. What is the social work? Looking after the poor or something like that.
Now, when your love, which is so great, which is so effective, that starts working, you feel you should do something, then you’ll be amazed how your Sahaja Yoga will be understood.
So far Sahaja Yoga is all right, people are very nice, excellent, saintly and all. But effect of that must be seen and people should see the effect of that, of your love. First is forgiveness. You have to forgive people. They are utterly stupid. I have just now explained to you how stupid they are. So, nothing to worry about that. If you are such a wise personality, you should try to judge everything with wisdom and don’t fall a trap into things where you feel that you have to do it like some fashion or some sort of a — I should say what? — some grouping. No need, we are Sahaja Yogis. We are self-sufficient. We don’t need anything. If we are one, we are all right. If we are many, we are all right.
Now you must know that you have reached a very high state and you have touched that love, that universal love of God.
So express more of that love in your daily life. Express more of that love in dealing with others. Express your love in a way that others are made happy. It’s all something to be thought of. How can you quarrel if you are real Sahaja Yogis? How can you put down others if they are Sahaja Yogi[s]? How can you deceive others if you are Sahaja Yogis? Not possible. You should have no interest in all these things. That means now you are clarified and you are clear and you are now nirmal. Nobody can touch you.
This sort of attitude, should have respect for yourself. This kind of understanding you should have about yourself. What is your role? What is your position? You should know that you are Realised souls and what you should do as Realised soul, that you should know.
You’re not another sort of madman running the rat race or also you’re not in competition. You’re not competitive. You are just progressing by your own love and blessings. I know how the blessings work. But first of all, you have to be worthy of that blessing, otherwise – can’t help it. Your loving nature, that’s why Christ has said that you have to be like children to enter into the kingdom of God. You are already in the kingdom of God, but you have to be like children; how innocent they are, how simple they are and they’re happy with small, small things. They don’t want something very extraordinary. It’s very surprising how our love, which is actually, is enlightened by divine love, can change the whole world. How I had this idea and how it has prospered. If you all help Me in this, I’m sure Sahaja Yoga can do so many things, which have not been achieved.
Now you go home and think whatever I have told you. Think about it. What you need is introspection. What you need is understanding. “What have I done out of my life as Sahaja Yogis?” And then you will find out that you can do a lot, a lot. And that has to be done.
May God bless you
H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi