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Interview for ‘The Age’ Newspaper Melbourne (Australia)

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1987-05-13 Interview with Newspaper ‘ ‘The Age’ Melbourne NITL HD Interviewer: Have you had a chance to look around, or everyone looking at you only, all the time? Shri Mataji: (Laughing)No I have been looking around also and I went round to see places, but I have been to Australia before, four years so I have seen it quite a lot. Interviewer: What are your impressions? Shri Mataji: Ah, it’s a.. Australia has great potential I think and as far as the country’s abroad are concerned, I think they can give a very big lead spiritually, to the whole world. Interviewer: Nice to think (UNCLEAR) other countries, spiritually (UNCLEAR)  spiritual countries, (UNCLEAR) materialistic culture.Why do you say it could give  spiritual lead? Shri Mataji: You see you may think that way, but basically, we have built up that within yourselves I think.’Spiritual potential’. Interviewer: I noticed in one of the interviews which was in the media I think it was an American journalist, interviewing YOU and YOU say that Australia is like the lowest chakra in the body. I have forgotten what it was called. Shri Mataji: Yes, yes.Mooladhara. Interviewer: Where is this chakra placed? Shri Mataji: This chakra is placed below the Coccyx and.. Interviewer: Where is that? Shri Mataji: Coccyx is a triangular bone. That is at the end of the spinal cord. Interviewer: Right. Could you explain what you mean by Australian could be like..? Shri Mataji: That is the first centre created.Before the creation started this Read More …

Farewell Talk Sydney (Australia)

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And be coming back to Sydney again. And stay here have been wonderful.  We have made the largest number of people and you have to look after the people who are going to come here now.  We have to be very cautious and careful with the new people because they don’t know about Sahaj Yog, they don’t know about the kingdom of god, so don’t have to show off in any way. Try to be kind and nice to them and tell them everything.  In such a manner, as if you’re trying to be very helpful to them.  Don’t get angry with them, don’t shout at them. So very big responsibility, I think, to. Get the new people. In proper shape. It’s a knack I think. It has to be a nack if you find somebody rather difficult or someone, then you ask somebody else to deal with that, go on on shifting such a person, so that person gets fed up and will go away if somebody is asking too many questions or anything. Also, you try this thing like that, you see, don’t go on arguing, don’t argue with anyone. Too much arguments will not bring anything, you know in Sahaja Yoga cannot be argued on some extent is all right, but too much. It should not be argued. Now. We have achieved quite a lot in Sydney and for the whole world to see that if you can do that in Sydney, why not anywhere else? Let Read More …

Letter Brompton Square House, London (England)

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Smt. Nirmala Devi  48 Bromton Square  London  dt. 5th April 1986  My Dear Mr Magdum,  This is in reference of your letter saying that there is more than half an acre land absolutely stony and useless for agriculture. It does not matter as I am in the process of buying 7 acres of adjacent land, so we will have altogether 11 acres of land for farming.  I have confirmed the following points again as given by you;  1. The farm house does not need collector’s permission. (The copy of the  letter written by the colector to Mr Malhotra is with me).  2. The farm house has no specific dimensions. Mr Dhumal sent a registered letter to the collectorate, however no reply has been received for over two months.  3. The permission has been granted by the Gram Panchayat. ( confirmed by Gram Panchayat that only they are authorised to grant the permission).  4. This area is a green belt and has to be used for agriculture only. The farm house can be used by us and also for the agriculture storage etc. We have got permission from the planning Dept.  Now as my husband is going to retire very soon, I wish to plan the house as per requirements for my family and my daughters’ families. Both my daughters are married in the ‘Shetkari’ families. Specially the younger son-in-law who is the grandson of our late President Rajendra Prasad, belongs to a very well known farmer’s family of Bihar and himself is Read More …

Talk To New People Tivoli (Italy)

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Talk to new people, Tivoli, Italy, 1983-09-10 We go to the essence of things to the roots. Now if there is a disease on the knees, you cannot cross the knee They have to go to the roots to find out how the disease is showing. So we have to go to the roots now because we have to understand that we are much more subtler than what we know about ourselves. So we go to the subtler side of …Not only we are bothered about the outside things that we see but we have to know about the inside of us. What causes all the outcome. So when we are…as the person who comes with the for us to give us Salvation we go to the essence to find out to who He is. It is said in the Bible that he is the Alpha and the Omega, means He is the first and the last.But to explain it there is nothing in the Bible. But we have other books, other scriptures UNCLEAR where He is described, and he is called as Maha Vishnu in one of the books and the essence of Him is innocence. All to emit innocence. But before he was born.. UNCLEAR .So  Primordial mother first to give image of Christ which was to come on this earth and this is called as Shri Ganesha in the scriptures. There is a very interesting story as to how Shri Ganesha was created by the Primordial mother. Read More …

Animal personalities inside us Mulhouse (France)

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Conversation with Sahaja Yogis, Mulhouse, France, 1er September 1983 Like the Father created the world, the Son showed how to resurrect, but the Mother then nourishes, actually, and makes you something, the owner of the whole thing. So, first the God almighty, the father, then the Spirit in the heart, and then now, the Kundalini.So, after you become one with the Spirit, you become the Spirit. And the powers that the Spirit had before start manifesting in you. So, this is at this consciousness, that we have to rise. The problem is we move in a pendulum, from this to that, like from one extreme to another extreme. But the movement of consciousness is spiral, it moves in a spiral, like the Kundalini. And so, the Mother who is loving, very gently, very kindly, affectionately, manifests her beauty of nourishment.This kind of unconsciousness I want to work out, because we are a computer in that, say, a server DD, a computer. And another computer, the one we are producing, actually, is our reflection.Sahaja Yogi: Would you say it again, Mother?Shri Mataji: You see, we are producing computers outside. They are the reflection of ourselves outside.Sahaja Yogi: They are the reflection of us as we are the reflection of God.Shri Mataji: So, whatever we reflect is artificial, man-made. And I was reading an article today, and the gentleman said that thousands and thousands of computers, we may use, we cannot reach the computer that is our own innate intelligence. [Conversation with Read More …

Talk and Singing Tannay (Switzerland)

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27 August 1983, Talk and Singing, Tannay, Switzerland [Unclear] How are you?  Are you back again?  You are all right?  Happy now. [To a child] It is a very good speech I gave yesterday.  You must all hear it. [Sahaja Yogi speaking]  Last night?  In the evening?  After the lecture.  Ah yes, beautiful. All of you were there, or not? [Sahaja Yogi speaking]  Yes!  [unclear] How is Markandeya, is he all right?  Athena, how are you, you are all right? The people came today from Lausanne.  They got their realisation.  There was a lady and she touched Me, and she got a shock, twice.  Like an electrical shock.  Because there was black magic on her.  And she told her husband had done black magic on her. She was really frightened.  There was yesterday one lady who came, she was very difficult, she never came today. You were working on her. [Sahaha Yogi speaking]  She could not come today, she was working, Mother.  She might be coming to Geneva.  Yes. What was wrong with her?  What chakras were catching? [Sahaja Yogi speaking]  The Agyna.  She was thinking so much.  She was left alone with two children by her husband, so she had a hard time to forgive him. She was with two children, left by her husband? [Sahaja Yogi speaking]  And now the financial situation is not good, so she felt depressed.  But here the government pays for them, isn’t it? [Sahaja Yogi speaking] But no, I don’t think so. No.  Read More …

Radio Interview Geneva (Switzerland)

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Shri Mataji: [? but] important that we still linger on with other trips, like [? ego trips)]. So if somebody talks big we believe him. These people are money-oriented and they have lots of money and they can put in advertisements and we get impressed by [unclear]. Recently, to My surprise, I discovered that in England they have something called “chequebook journalism”.  Sahaja Yogi (to Swiss translator): It means that the journalist – I don’t know if it’s true – that there is payment made to journalists for reporting according to what they personally want.  Shri Mataji: That’s the phrase they use, chequebook journalism.  Swiss translator (to Shri Mataji): He (a man speaking French) asks – in Geneva it is the first time that he saw such a publicity for a personality like You. All the advertisements, papers in the [letterbox] and very big posters all over the place, and he said: “This cost lots of money.”  Shri Mataji: No, it did not. What happened [was] that we did not pay to anyone. Luckily, the authorities allowed us to quickly [unclear]. But we didn’t give anybody under the table any money.  Sahaja Yogi: Printing costs [unclear]. Shri Mataji: Also there are so many Sahaja Yogis all over the world, for example these people from Australia were sending some posters for America.  But I will tell you about how the gurus work. You see what they do, they [? get to] some journalist, give them a large amount of money, to Read More …

We can get Self-realization so easily Brighton (England)

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Public Program I went to your radio broadcasting and people told Me that, “It is very difficult to believe, that we can get Self-realization so easily.” Also that, “The whole thing sounds so fantastic, so great and how can we human-beings get our realization so fast.” We must know that we have not created ourselves and we cannot create ourselves either; We can destroy but we have not created ourselves. Some energy, some force – call it God, call it anything – has created us and the way we have become human-beings, one can see very clearly, there has to be some purpose. If so, then we have to find out that purpose. Logically, we reach a conclusion, that whatever we know today about ourselves and our being and our purpose, is not sufficient to convince us of our importance, of our glory and the need for this force to create us. To understand what it is, why are we here, why are we made human-beings – are we able to find out with this human instrument we have got? With our human awareness can we find out why are we here, why are we made or is there anything else provided within us that can give us the ideas, the knowledge about ourselves. One thing is definite, we must understand that in these modern times, there are many people born, who do not accept life as it is. They perhaps do not know for what purpose but they want Read More …

To be a dust particle (India)

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To be a dust particle I want to be like a dust particlewhich moves with the wind. It goes everywhere. Can go, sit on the head of a king,or can go and fall at the feet of someone. And it can go and sit on a little flower,and it can go and sit everywhere. But I want to be a particle of dust. That is fragrant,that is nourishing,that is enlightening. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, aged seven and as narrated by Herin Dhulia, India, 14th January 1983

The Conception of Love Brompton Square House, London (England)

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The Conception of Love, Talk to Yogis, 15 September 1982, London, United Kingdom So once and for all I want everyone to understand the conception of true love in Sahaja Yoga. All right? So it is not that I am trying in any way to persuade you, in no way, but I want to know certain things, what happens, what is the situation, why it happens. Because as I told you, I am no good at human beings, I am really puzzled at them. So whatever questions I ask, you answer them absolutely honestly, all right? Because it’s for My knowledge that I’m asking, all right? But nothing, to, in any way, I don’t want to pressurise you in any way, but just to understand what’s the problem is. And then I’ll give you the answer.  First of all, the question is, ‘Are you a seeker?’  Sahaja Yogini: I think so, yes, Mother. You have been seeking before also? All right. Then the second point is, you have been seeking and you found in Sahaja Yoga that there is some truth, is it? Now you didn’t come to Sahaja Yoga to marry anyone? Sahaja Yogini: Not originally, Mother. Not to find somebody for your marriage?  This was never your idea? Sahaja Yogini: No, Mother. Not at the beginning. Because I was in India, Mother. So you had no idea about this? Now so, when you met Matthias, or whatever it is, and you liked him and you said that you Read More …

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Initiation to Havan after Sahasrara Puja Le Raincy (France)

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Havan after Sahasrara puja, Ashram Le Raincy, Le Raincy (France), May, 1982 Shri Mataji: Ah, the great Sahaja Yogis are sitting down, he? [Laughter]Alexandre: We are Brahmins.Shri Mataji: Have you got the Deepak?Dr Rustom: Deepak, lamp.Shri Mataji: Light, light.Alexandre: Matches?Sahaja Yogi: Lamp. [Inaudible]Shri Mataji: Gavin, you have the shawl with you?Come along.Alexandre: [Inaudible] We came back to India! Sahaja Yogi: Mother?Shri Mataji: [Inaudible] Gregoire: Shri Mataji, what about everybody? [Unsure]Shri Mataji: Let them, if they want to come. Shri Mataji: Now spread out [inaudible].Gregoire: [Explains in French what they will do]Shri Mataji: Please.Can you spread something more for people?[Shri Mataji is making a bandhan] Shri Mataji: Please move from the thing. Because, you see, normally, people want to walk. A little bit so all can have and put it and it starts. You see, I would say that John, you can make these people come forward.Please come forward.Where is Nathalie?You also come along.People who are from France and Algeria should be seated. And also, from Lille.Where is the Ghanta?Dr Rustom: The bell.Gregoire: Where is the bell?Gavin: Just coming. Shri Mataji: [To the Algerian lady] Come forward.Keep it there with Gregoire. You see, keep it with him.With Nathalie. All right? You people [inaudible] of that.[A child gives the bell to Shri Mataji] Oh! Thank you very much, thank you. Shri Mataji: [To Gregoire] Keep the light down.They can do it.Now somebody must look after the wood. And I think, Benoît, you look after that.Alexandre: The ghee.Shri Mataji: And you look after Read More …

Puja and How to establish beginners Ruth’s Apartment, Rome (Italy)

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Conversation with Sahaja Yogis, Rome, Italy, April 30th [unsure], 1982 Now we have to also find out the tapes from. Now when you go there, you ask Gavin and other people. They will give you the tapes. And also from Nirmala Yoga, also, you can ask people to have membership. You can also get some nice records and things like that. From Gavin, he will tell you. In France, there might be some tapes of music that have been done in my presence. Ask Gavin to give. And he will be able to tell you and how to get it. It can be sent by a person or post or something. But another thing that now Marie is doing is to find out people who are against the cult, you see. And such people should be brought to Sahaja Yoga. Marie is doing that work, a kind of [unclear] and that’s how they brought people, you see, to Sahaja Yoga. And that sort of people you find out if you ask Marie about it.Sahaja Yogini: Against the cult.Shri Mataji: Against the cult, you see. And about the protocol also perhaps they are printing now a new sort of a pamphlet. So, you get those and other pamphlets that are there. If you can translate, we can get copies made for, I mean, you have translated?Sahaja Yogini: I have translated only Sahaja Yoga practice.Shri Mataji: And you got it printed also? All right. So, if you want any other that they Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis New Delhi (India)

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Delhi, India 25-02-1982 Our respected chief justice Mr Mahajan, respected minister sahab, our beloved trustee Mr  [UNCLEAR],all the Sahaja Yogis who are blessed today specifically by God’s grace, i bow to you. I am so filled with gratitude, that I have no words to express the bounties and the beauties of the divine, we have struggled so much to get a piece of land and so far we have not  been successful, though our president has granted that [UNCLEAR]. It’s such a sad thing that we could not manage to lay our hands on any piece of land while the whole belongs to God Almighty and our trustees had given up all hope of getting anywhere near and they started saying that ‘Mother is a very impractical lady, she doesn’t understand modern times how to behave’. I wanted at least one place to be obtained keeping with the great principle for this great country and this is really God’s blessing that has proved that if you keep to your principal, things work out very easily. In the same way in England they were struggling to get a place and suddenly out of the blue they got  a beautiful ashram, this really proves that, if you keep to your principles and your love for God he  gives you your Kshema as Krishna has said ” YogaKshemam vahamyaham”  if you have taken yoga he will look after your Kshema , people may argue that ‘why is it taken so much Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis New Delhi (India)

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis, New Delhi, India, 20-02-1982 Just see the answer, because they have full faith in God, see they have full trust in [Unclear], so they are not worried about their wives what will happen to them or wives are not worried about them. The rest of it, you people worry about husbands, right?, you cannot conceive, doesn’t come into our heads. Sahaja Yogi: We will leave rest to Mataji. Sahaja Yogi: Everything. See na, see the innocence, can you see the innocence, can you understand that. Sahaja Yogi: Then nothing happens. See. Sahaja Yogi: Joyous and joyous. Nothing happens, there is joy, leave everything to Mother. Sahaja Yogi: Kahat kaabir aanda mayo (en – Kabeer says to be in joyous state) Now listen to that, So, simple they are, they are so simple they won’t understand this. It is not proper for me to say anything in their presence really, they still cannot see things you know, after all I have said it they are so simple they can’t see through the things, now these two ladies are sitting here where are their husbands? They have been sleeping in my room for the last three days. They have got their children, nothing they are doing, this is something I just can’t understand, all these things you have to learn in this lifetime. They have to learn from you some things, but you have to also learn some things. Look at the innocence, see them, nothing goes into their heads, like Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis London (England)

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1981-0510 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, London, UK Today I think we should first of all talk about organizing Sahaja Yoga in England. How we can do it and lets have it in a very informal way. How do we propose to spread Sahaja Yoga in England? That is important. I have been here now two, three, four months and I would like to have your ideas about it. But before we start that you have to see that what Australia has done, how they have worked it out it’s better to see because their performance has been really good and we have to learn from them, Australia is the land of Shri Ganesh and Shri Ganesha’s miraculous powers are working perhaps because so many things have happened so suddenly and so beautifully there that you can say that you are amazed at it you see and it starts with a miracle always. I have seen something happens. These people went back and say they wanted to have an ashram so that this miracle. They have no house for so long they can’t get any house here. It’s such a big house . It’s very difficult nobody is willing to give us on rent. So we have to take a house on a frustrating sort of a thing. When we start half of the money you pay now and part later on. It’s very expensive to do that way. So somehow I told her that she was so frantic I said, Read More …

Creation of a letter, story of Shri Bhramari Ashley Gardens, London (England)

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Conversation with Sahaja Yogis, Creation of Sahaj material, the story of Shri Bhramari, London, Ashley Gardens (England), September 7th, 1978 [Shri Mataji dictates a letter] Should I start?So my dear saints, whatever it is, we are a group of people who have assembled together through our true seeking and all of us have been to all kinds of various gurus and various acts of seeking, because we were anxiously seeking the truth. In our seeking, we had to go through all the ancient scriptures, not only Indian, but also other scriptures like Koran and Torah and the Bible. We have read also the Indian scriptures with very great care. Some of them have read some books and some others have read some others. But, we would like to point out that Kundalini awakening is to be understood in its all seriousness and in its all true, real form. The Vedas, which are four, Upanishads, Darshanas, Puranas, [unclear- 3:20] and Tantra Vidyanas, all of them point out that Kundalini, even Gita, – Gita you put it, note it Gita- that Kundalini is the primule or the germinating power within us, which gives us Realisation, which is the evolutionary manifestation of human bases. All other things, which people talk about will not lead to evolution, but they may develop some powers which are supraconscious in nature or subconscious. We have met eight disciples at least of your guru mister Yaar. We would like to tell you that only one person was a Read More …

We Are All Seeking Part 2 Caxton Hall, Longford (England)

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1978-03-20 We Are All Seeking London Source So, the Swadisthan chakra which is placed second now is the one which has got six petals and this is the one that controls the pelvic plexus-the aortic plexus within us. That also has got six sub-plexuses. Now we have to know that these are subtle centres placed in our spinal cord and the gross centres are outside. Now this is something one must understand, if you have to understand about Kundalini, that these centres are placed outside of gross plexuses which doctors know. But they are actually subtle centres inside the spinal cord. Beyond that is another centre which you can see, that’s called as Manipura chakra – I told you the centre of the navel chakra-which has got ten petals, as I have told you, that there have been ten gurus also. And around that is the Void, is the gap. And this gap has to be filled. Now what happens when you place your hands towards me? Like this, if you could it would be nice. All of you should place your hands so it works out simultaneously. See this power, this divine Power which is an integrated power which is all powers put together, starts flowing into your being through your fingers. These fingers, five fingers, this portion and this portion as you will see from the chart we have given you are responsible for sucking that divinity within yourself. It works like an [UNCLEAR entity], it goes inside Read More …

Talk About Nizamuddin (date and location unknown) (Location Unknown)

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1970-0101 Talk About Nizamuddin [Note – the talk has been taken from the tape: 1995-03-15 Conversation with Princess Nun Bangkok] Nations land, where Hazrat Nizamuddin was buried, He was a great nabi and a sufi and in his whole poetry he has used very symbolic things and for people of that level they do not think of any religion being exclusive. Even Mohammad saheb never talked only of Islam. He talked of all the people who came before. Like Abraham, then he talked of Moses, then he talked of Christ and his mother specially in Quran he has talked it. He never talked that I am something separate, never exclusive. They can never be exclusive because they know that all these great people came on this earth to do the emancipation of human beings, so their expertise and same as Hazarat Nizamuddin. Long time back before my marriage when I came here I was the first I think to put a chadar of flowers on him and my father also was a great soul. He told me this is Hazarat Nizamuddin and his disciple was Kusro was a great poet in Hindi language, he is regarded as a very great poet and he is the one who has written this beautiful song, now the symbolic is this chap means is the Muslims. Tilaks are the Hindus. I have given up everything once I met the reality. But it’s very deep and beautifully explained and though they were born in the Read More …