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Talk by Claus Nobel at the Royal Albert Hall -3rd July 1997
Well, indeed, life is full of surprises, after all we are meeting here, inspired by the message and work of holy Mother Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi and she is not here in body but she’s here in spirit. Also the wonderful letter that we recently heard from Ayatollah Rohani, which speaks very highly of the work and the mission of the holy Mother, where he indicates the importance of women in the world, is neither here and frankly speaking only 36 hours ago I did not know that I would be here at the Royal Albert Hall, addressing this audience. Still I say, dear Holy Mother, and I also recognise her husband, Sir C P Srivastava, in the audience and I say most importantly, dear friends, fellow seekers of truth, are you out there? because with all this light I can only see about twenty people in front of me. So, say yes if your here then I know, (lots of clapping) Now I can see you and I can hear you as well as you can see and hear me. With that said I want to say, that I have a vision, I have a vision of the world that is better, saver and saner than the one we are presently are experiencing. It is a world where people live in harmony and peace with themselves and in harmony and peace with nature. Now those words are vast, its a bold vision do I have a practical way from going to vision to reality, yes I will share that with you and I will share it and indicate the tone of the meeting by ten small words, and they indicate how this global world transformation shall be undertaken, and they are right thoughts, right words, right deeds, right here and right now. (lots of clapping) The key word, is of course, right. This world is fighting about what is right, what is right to you might be wrong to me, and visa versa., it is a grey area. So we need a reference point, so we can distinguish between right and wrong and between truth and lie, tonight Shri Mataji will show us what is right, tonight Shri Mataji will empower us to become masters of our own destiny, and tonight we will be guided by the knowledge of self realisation in the light of truth and we shall all know absolute truth and absolute peace. Now 100 years ago, Alfred Nobel established a Nobel Peace prizes, these prizes represent excellence, we have prizes in chemistry, physics, medicine, literature and peace. Of those prizes I hold the peace prize to be the finest. And I want to tell you that Alfred Nobel listened to a women, he listened to his secretary, Burta from Suttonry, in Paris, 100 years ago, when she said Dr Nobel, your should use your vast fortune for betterment of the world. Tonight you are listening to another women, we are listening to the message of Shri Mataji. However, I’m very much inspired, first by my uncle and later on you here by Shri Mataji. Alfred Nobel talked much about peace, he was frightened that his awesome, explosive, dynamite which cleared up land for harbours and tunnels, could also be used for warfare, today in the arsenal of military systems its like a small firecracker. But at that time it, dynamite was a most awesome destructive material. Now Alfred Nobel thought basically about, peace as an absence of war, but I assure you that peace is much more than absence of war. And I see that peace exists is four specific areas, the first area is the peace that the individual has in him or her self, how do we treat our mind, our emotions and our feelings? how do we treat our body? Are we slaves to other masters or are we our own master? Until we have the inner peace in ourselves, we can never have an outer peace in the world and the safest and best way of finding world peace is to have mass movements that includes all religions and philosophies, all enterprises, whether they are political or scientific nature, to realise what inner peace is and that’s what we are talking about tonight. Self realisation. What does self realisation mean? Well it means that we are realising something, but what is the self? Ladies and Gentleman the self in us is the divine, cosmic powers that exist in each and every individual but which is dormant in most people around the world. The spiritual leaders from ancient laws, they knew about this, and they spoke about this but this secret of secrets has been suppressed, deliberately, until Shri Mataji, with great courage and great wisdom, being an old soul, who decided by herself, to come back to the Earth at this critical time in our history, in order to share her knowledge and wisdom, which is the Sahaja Yoga, which is instant Self Realisation which is to activate the dormant principle that we all have, which is the Kundalini and to help the Kundalini to rise up and thus become, what it says in the Bible, you are created in my image (lots of clapping). That was the first category, first sphere, of peace, the one we have within ourselves. The next one is the peace that we have among each other, in the family, in our community, in our nation, that we have peace with other ethnic groups and with other religions that we really become true, what I call active listeners, and as active listeners are able to put ourselves in the place, in the shoes, of the other party. Only then when we have the outlook from their perspective, shall we understand what they are trying to say. We’re always talking, talking, talking. My dear wife, who is not here tonight, she said Claus, you talk too much, you don’t listen. I have started to practice, what she calls, active listening. The third sphere is the sphere that pulled me in originally, after all I am a European Swedish business man, why am I up here speaking the language of spirituality, and saying that is where the hope of the future exists. I’m doing so because I have a deep and profound reverence for nature. As a Nobel peace laureate, Dr Albert Schvitzer said, after he had worked and worked trying to distil a phrase that contained everything that he knew, everything that he wanted to say through his philosophy, Dr Albert coined the phrase, ‘reverence for life’. Nature is nothing but a plethora of examples of life in this multifaceted version. And I tell you dear fellow seekers of truth, we, humanity today, in our ignorance, in our greed and in our lust for power, we are in the process of destroying the very thing that makes this planet unique and that is life on Earth. (lots of clapping) and so far we do not know of another planet in the universe that harbours this miracle, Earth is like a blue jewel in space and there is only one Earth and this Earth is fragile and we must take care of her and we respect her, Earth is also called nature, we cannot break the laws of nature, we must live by the laws of nature, if we break them, Mother Earth will break us. And we are only one species, of, we do not know how many species we have, five, ten, fifteen millions, but this we know and this has been proven by the worlds most foremost scientists in Harvard University, United States, Dr Edward O Wilson, we are today bringing to extinction 250 species per day, that is as if we are deliberately and wilfully pulling out thread after thread after of what consists of fabric of life and Mother nature will not let us continue doing that without correcting us as naughty children. The fourth sphere, of peace, is the peace that we should know between ourselves and God. Any religion or any group who raises their arms and destroys his and enemy in the name of God is not following what God has asked us to do. The world should not know of violence (lots of clapping). And the world should not know a war. I call, as we already heard, these four spheres of peace, Earth ethics. And tonight we will hear more from the holy Mother how we shall have a reference point, how we can distinguish if we have a charlatan and a fraud in front of us or if it’s a genuine honest person. And you, dear audience, you have come here tonight from many different walks of life and like you, I have also been seeking for the truth, I am beginning to discern truth rather clearly and let me tell you this, that I look upon life on Earth as a kind of a school, a school where we are learning perfection and purification. Now on Earth everything is inter-dependant, interactive and inter-related and on Earth, and well as in heaven I guess, every action has an reaction, every effect has a cause and every cause has an effect and the Holy Mother, as I said, She is a highly evolved soul, she has learned from many, many lives, what it is all about and this what is all about laws, the unseen laws, the spiritual laws, they are always here and they work as infallible as the law of gravity works,(drops his pen onto the floor) it always works all those unseen laws, it is for us to learn and perceive that law. I am very comfortable with the teachings of Shri Mataji and I am very comfortable with the Holy Mother herself. I say so because, in the Bible there is one saying, amongst several good ones, you shall know the tree by its fruit, and lately I have met the young men and women, in different parts of the world and certainly from many different parts of the world and they are all shining, beautiful human individuals that radiate inner peace and balance. They are unique, you have follow and you that are in the process of following, will be I think, those individuals who should call themselves, ambassadors for the Earth and after tonight’s session is over, I’m sure, that you shall see clearly how you shall distinguish between truth and lie and you shall realise that blind faith is of no value and that fanatasists and to take up violence as a last argument is of no value, eventually those things will bring you unhappiness, they will bring you conflict and potentially war. Ladies and gentleman, I know that we hold the future in our hands, I know that the future is in your hands, I know it’s in my hands and I also know that the future of the planet exists in the heart of the individuals. Now I will close my remarks, tonight, by a fable from India. I heard it when I attended the Rio conference ‘92, that was the twentieth anniversary of the Stokon conference, that for the first time, put on, the environment on the world agenda. In Stokon in ‘72 we had only two heads of state, the prime minister from India and the King of Sweden. In Rio twenty years later, we had 110 heads of states. A marvellous declaration, was drafted, agenda 21, just last week in New York, just 70 heads of states that continued with Rio plus five but as I told Sir C P, when he asked me about how is the outcome of this conference, I said, Well, we are talking about sustainable future but it seems to me that in UN there is much of a sustainable dialogue ongoing. Tonight we shall take the action. Well, I asked the Holy man from India, the white robbed achhriya, and I said is there hope for the future, and He said Mr Nobel I will answer you question as follows:
When the dear Lord had created the Earth, he was very very happy, very very pleased, it was His finest creation in the universe and he decided to celebrate, to have a party and God invited in all the angels and all the devils, when they were there he toasted them, and wished them welcome as a good host, and said there’s only one rule that you must strictly obey, while you are here, having a good time, and by the way the best food and the best wine was served, ambrosia nectar, and he said there is one rule and that is that while your here celebrating my creation, you may never bend your elbows. The devils cried out and said we don’t want any part of such a party. How can we enjoy it? Not bending our elbows. So they left. Then the party started, the angels were having a jolly good time and the dear god was very very happy. Now how could they eat and drink without bending their elbows? Well, I sense that you can see what the moral of the fable is. The Angles were feeding each other, they were sharing and they were caring and that is what we shall do in the future together. Thank you very much.
Lettre de l’Ayatollah Rouhani, traduction lue par Derek Lee au Royal Albert Hall, Londres, jeudi 3/07/1997.
English transcript certified IBP
Traduction française approuvée. Ver 10/07/1998.
Si nous considérons la plus ancienne preuve laissée par l’Homo Sapiens, nous pouvons voir que l’homme a toujours été conscient de l’existence d’un Etre Suprême qui est le Seigneur de toutes choses et de toutes les créatures vivantes. Utilisant tous les moyens possibles, les êtres humains de toutes les époques ont toujours essayé de montrer leurs sentiments de profond respect (et de révérence) envers Dieu et d’accomplir ce qui est dû à leur Créateur.
C’est pourquoi l’Islam a toujours mis l’accent sur la possibilité d’une communication directe avec Dieu. Même ceux qui sont tombés dans l’idolâtrie n’ont jamais nié l’existence d’un Créateur, mais ont simplement mis leurs idoles et leurs images à Sa place. Et ceci se passe encore aujourd’hui. Ceci étant, comment pouvons-nous reconnaître un véritable prophète et ce qu’est sa mission?
La mission des prophètes est de révéler à Dieu, c’est-à-dire de fournir une explication logique et tangible en matière de religion comme on l’expérimente dans nos vies quotidiennes.
Le vrai monothéisme – la croyance en un Etre Suprême – signifie (ou implique) l’unité inébranlable de la création toute entière entre l’homme et Dieu. Le monothéisme prouve alors l’absurdité des idoles et des images qui interviennent entre l’homme et Dieu. La mission des prophètes est ainsi d’établir les êtres humains sur le bon chemin et afin d’accomplir cela, ils ont utilisé deux voies parallèles et complémentaires:
– la voie de l’apprentissage, basée sur la théologie et la philosophie
– la voie de la connaissance de soi, ou de la Réalisation de soi.
C’est pourquoi nous trouvons dans notre Livre Saint, le Coran, à la fois des discours, et des expressions scolastiques qui font allusion à la voie qui permet d’atteindre la connaissance du Soi Supérieur.
La façon concrète de mettre ce message en pratique est ce qui nous est offert à notre époque par Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi.
Pour étayer cette Vérité, si vous me le permettez, je citerai les mots du Prophète Mahomet qui nous dit: “Dieu est plus proche de l’homme que ses propres veines.”
Et le Prophète dit aussi: “Avec la connaissance de l’Esprit, l’homme commencera à se connaître afin d’accomplir la connaissance de Dieu.”
“Avec la purification de son être intérieur, l’homme devient conscient qu’il est l’Esprit.”
C’est donc l’expérience de la Réalisation spontanée du soi, qui est révélée par Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, et Sahaja Yoga, qui est la pratique qu’Elle enseigne. La Réalisation spontanée du Soi et Sahaja Yoga sont en parfaite harmonie avec les enseignements de l’Islam. C’est à cause de cette révélation par Shri Mataji que j’ai voulu vous parler ce soir.
De la même façon, j’aimerais achever mon discours en mentionnant la condition des femmes dans les pays islamiques aujourd’hui. Comme vous le savez, la position de la femme en tant que mère est glorifiée dans la tradition islamique. Le Prophète Mahomet est allé jusqu’à dire: “Nous avons expérimenté le Paradis aux pieds de notre mère.”
En tant qu’épouse, l’Islam non seulement lui reconnaît son droit total à choisir son propre mari, mais aussi lui rend hommage dans les mots célèbres du Prophète qui dit: “Le meilleur d’entre vous est celui qui se comporte le mieux envers son épouse.”
Les femmes sont considérées comme égales des hommes à la fois dans leurs responsabilités et dans leurs droits légaux et civiques.
Aujourd’hui, malheureusement, nous voyons que cette grande intention du Coran n’est pas toujours comprise et par conséquent pas toujours respectée dans les différents pays musulmans.
Vous, Shri Mataji, par Votre courage, Votre sincérité et Votre pureté, par Vos voyages infatigables à travers les cinq continents, êtes considérée à juste titre comme la Messagère de la Paix dans le monde.
Votre vie exemplaire fait de Vous le symbole et le modèle parfait pour les femmes musulmanes. Puisse leur quête de Justice, leur désir de pouvoir obtenir une véritable vie spirituelle dans leur propre dignité, puisse cette quête trouver un écho dans l’approche spirituelle du véritable Islam. Ceci permettra d’arrêter toutes sortes d’injustices qui sont encore commises contre les femmes au nom de la religion.
C’est avec cette vision et dans le but de défendre les droits des femmes dans les pays musulmans à travers le monde et en particulier en Afghanistan, en Iran et en Turquie, que je Vous adresse ce bref discours à Vous, Shri Mataji, et à toutes les personnes assemblées ici ce soir.