How you can reach to the state of self-realisation? Caffè della Versiliana, Versilia (Italy)

Interview / Public Program at the “Caffè della Versiliana”. Versilia (Italy), 31 August 2001. Romano Battaglia: Bene, cominciamo allora, la Grande Madre comincerà a parlare e spiegare come si può giungere alla realizzazione del Sé. Prego. [Well, let’s start then, the Great Mother will start talking and explaining how to get Self Realization. Please.] Shri Mataji [to Romano Battaglia]: It’s very kind of you to have invited Me to this meeting. He has asked Me to explain to you how you can reach to the state of self-realisation. It’s a very important thing to understand, because so far we have been living only with human awareness. Human awareness is not sufficient enough for us to lead a very happy life, especially collectively. But we have to know that our Creator is a very great, very understanding personality, is a Divine personality. And He has placed within us all the arrangements to get our self-realisation. Self-realisation is the connection with the all-pervading power of Divine Love. For that within us is placed, in the triangular bone called as sacrum, a power. All human beings have this power in the sacrum bone. Sacrum means sacred, and Greeks also knew that it was a sacred bone, so they called it sacrum. So it’s already there, and it has that power which is in three and a half coils. All of you have got it. Now only problem is how to raise this power to connect you to that Divine Power.Now there are little Read More …

Kundalini will take you to the Truth Parchi di Nervi, Genoa (Italy)

Public Program, Parchi di Nervi, Genoa (Italy), 4 September 2000. First 12 minutes; bhajans and introduction in Italian.I bow to all the seekers of Truth.We have to know what is the Truth that we are seeking.The Truth is that you a not this body, this mind, these emotions, nor your intelligence but you are the Spirit, which we call as Self. It is written in every scripture that you have to seek your Self. Unless and until you know yourself, you cannot know God. This is the main reason why we have so many quarrels, wars in the name of God. But now it’s very easy for you to know your Self.As they have told you that there lies in your triangular bone a power which we call as Kundalini in India. Kundala means coils and because it is in three and a half coils it is called as kundalini. This has been said in all the religions; that you have this inner power by which you can know your Self. If it can be awakened it passes through six centres, as you have been told. These six centres are for your physical, mental, emotional being. Not only that but they sustain also your spiritual being.This kundalini is actually your own Mother. She is your individual Mother. She resides within you waiting for opportunity to get awakened. And as your mother, when she gave you the birth, she bore all the problems, the kundalini, in the same way, also works Read More …

Human beings are at an intermediary stage Caffè della Versiliana, Versilia (Italy)

Public Program at the “Caffè della Versiliana”. Versilia (Italy), 29 August 1999. Romano Battaglia: ….Arriva a fine millennio. È l’ultima Versiliana di questo millennio. Prego. (…it arrives to the end of millenium. It’s the last Versiliana of this millenium. Please..) Shri Mataji: I bow to all the seekers of truth. If you are really seeking the truth, this is the best time when, at the end of this millennium, you can really understand what is the truth is. We have one problem: as we are born, we have the inheritance from the animal kingdom we should say, because we evolved out of animals. So, because of that, we still have many qualities that are coming from our inheritance. Firstly, the desire to get over somebody, to sort of grab things, or aggressiveness, all comes from there. There are many things we have inherited from them. But now we have another problem: because we think, and by thinking we justify everything wrong we do. And because of this, we continue with all kinds of aggressiveness and all kinds of tortures of others. But this is not what we have to achieve being human beings. Now the truth is that we all can evolve out of this. For that we have to become the Spirit. So we are not this body, this mind, these emotions, this intellect, but we are pure Spirits. We must have faith in that. Actually, to overcome these tendencies of human beings, they started religions. But religions also Read More …

Conference for Doctors Versilia (Italy)

Conference for Doctors, Marina di Pietrasanta, Italy, 2 October 1998. These are the days of a great turmoil and all kinds of problems are cropping ¬up which never happened before: political problem, economic problem, personal problem, family problems. Now also the psychological complications are there and everybody is seeking if there is any solution to this. Physical problems also are there which doctors have to face a lot. And I have also studied medicine, so I know how difficult it is to get through all the exams. Despite that they have not reached to any solutions. But if you believe in God, who is a creator, we have to also believe that He must have given us something to solve these problems. So, I have to just tell you that the time for our transformation, the evolutionary breakthrough has come. As Christ has said, “You seek Me and you’ll find.” So, when all these problems are cropping up, you want to seek the guidance of the Divine. So My simple message is that you have to seek your Self; you must know yourself. Christ has said, “Know thyself.” And for that there is an arrangement within us and if that works out, then you’ll be amazed if you become the Spirit, how the life changes, the whole thing changes for you. You see there are those so many lights here, but if they are not connected to the mains, they do not give light. But if you become the self, Read More …

Public Program Caffè della Versiliana, Versilia (Italy)

1998-07-26 Interview Italy Emotional… He’s a very good son of mine and I am very proud of him. He is really well spiritually [Unclear grown]. And he wants you all to share my love also. It’s very kind of him to have invited Me [UNCLEAR] and it’s very kind of you all to be here, present.  [unclear Make something?]… to these people. I’ve come to tell you that within you lies the peace, tranquillity and a very beautiful spiritually life. [CUT] But as Christ has said ‘’You are to be born again’’. But you have to ask for it, nobody can force, nor can you pay for it. In these modern times it is your birthright to have your second birth, birthright. For even which you don’t have to do any [UNCLEAR first]. You don’t have to stand on your head, you don’t have to go to the Himalayas. It is a very spontaneous happening that takes place. Within you lies the power, who is your individual Mother, your own Mother and she knows everything about you, she knows what mistakes you have committed also she knows your aspirations. And as your Mother has given you your birth in the same way She gives you a very beautiful rebirth.  So you get the real baptism. [CUT] Which we call as sacrum that means the Greeks knew it was a sacrum bone also Indians knew about it very much. And there were two saints who travelled all over the world. They Read More …

Human Awareness and Limited Rationality Aula Magna di Santa Lucia, Bologna (Italy)

Bologna Public Program (Italy) I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset, we have to know that the truth is what it is. We cannot change it, we cannot describe it, we cannot conceptualize it. Whatever I am going to tell you, you are not to believe me blindfolded, but you must keep your mind open like a scientist. Treat my speech as a hypothesis, and if proved then you must accept it as honest people. It is for your individual benevolence, benevolence of your city, your country, and the whole world. The truth is that you are not this body, mind, emotions, intellect, ego and your conditionings. But you are the Spirit, the pure Spirit. The second truth is that there is an All-pervading Power of divine love which does all living work. We see these beautiful flowers here and we take it for granted, which is a miracle. In the same way, our body is functioning, our heart is running, and we take it for granted. Doctors say it is the autonomous nervous system, but who is this ‘auto’? In the evolutionary process, we have now reached the state of human awareness. But human awareness is relative. We try to justify everything through our rationality. Hitler could justify his war through his limited rationality. But we have to reach the absolute truth. Unless and until we know the absolute, there will always be fighting and quarrelling going on. Now, within us is placed, you Read More …

Public Program (incomplete) (Italy)

1993-0504 Public Program, Italy I bow to all the seekers of truth. As you know very well that all the religions have talked of one thing that is [that] we should seek the truth. And that we have to be born again. But it is not just a certificate, or a kind of a group we form, saying that we are born again. But it is the actualization. To believe that we have found the truth, that by reading a particular scripture we are the people who are following the truth, is just taking us to darkness of fundamentalism. And that’s why when people tell Me that they are following the religion very strictly, why is it [that] physically, mentally, emotionally they are so sick? But actually, they are not following reality. They have not tried to find out the reality. Thousands of years our forefathers have been doing the same thing. There is no religion which has said [missing portion, poor audio] … But this falsehood has led us into a very big mess that we have started hating each other in the name of religion. And they have become now, all religions, very money oriented. Either they go to the right side, as told to you, or go to the left side and become possessed. The ones who follow any religion, whether Christian, Hindu, Muslim, any religion, are capable of doing any sin. There is no difference between any human being as such. They have to be truth Read More …

It is the easiest to feel your divinity Florence (Italy)

Public Program. Florence (Firenze) (Italy), 1992-0423. I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset, I have to tell you that truth is what it is. We cannot conceptualise it. We cannot know it through the flight of our imagination. Unfortunately, we cannot also know at this human level, human awareness. Because it is subtler than human awareness. Within all of you there is divinity. But because of ignorance, you do not know it. Is not difficult. On the contrary, is the easiest to feel your divinity. Now whatever is told to you about this machinery within you, and whatever I’m going to tell you, you have to understand it with an open mind. Like a scientist, you must know that whatever I’m saying is a hypothesis. And when you find out that that is the truth, then you must accept, as honest people. So believe Me, that every human being is capable of achieving his divinity. Every scripture has said that you are to be born again. And it is said that you have to know yourself: “Know thyself.” But it is not some sort of a artificial baptism, or artificial certificate, that you become a realised soul. But it is a living process of evolution. Like this in the triangular bone is placed this power for your ascent. This is the reflection of the Holy Ghost. Holy Ghost is the Primordial Mother, the Feminine Power, God’s desire. We talk of God the Father, God the Read More …

Evening Program Guru Puja Campus, Cabella Ligure (Italy)

1991-07-27 Evening Program before Guru Puja, Cabella, Italy: Shri Mataji: So, Who will translate me?…I must say that it was a miracle that I reached this place. Just we found out about the other castle that it was not at all good for us because it was not having good vibrations.And we have to shift from there in one day…I requested the mayor of this place and you will be amazed that in one day he sold this house to me and arranged it… And such a miracle it was – the place where you are right now is like Kailasha like Himalaya so pure and so fresh and the people are so beautiful …In the whole of Europe, I have not met …They are extremely hospitable very gentle very kind and the river here is so beautiful and so fresh…So there is no need for you to go to the Himalayas any more. We have to know that Sahaja yoga is something that you start feeling your divinity within yourself. And after your second birth, after your realization, the whole thing starts growing into you automatically, spontaneously. And this tree of love grows and the fragrance of this is love. Pure Love! And that is what our basis …We have only used the power of hatred, so far …Now you have to use this power of love. I know it was all arranged in such a short time, that you might not feel so comfort of the body because Read More …

Bhajans and Talk About Divine Love Ashram of Pichini, Rome (Italy)

“About Divine Love”. Rome ashram (Pichini) (Italy), 22 February 1991. You are singing so beautifully. It seems your heart has opened after this Puja very much and you’re singing like small children now. So sort of, all the conditionings we have had, all the ego also there, it seems now you have become very pure all these problems have gone away and you are enjoying yourselves. This is the best way, when we love ourselves, we know ourselves we become love. Because of so many pressures on us and so many norms we’ve got, which are artificial, and we think only if outside we are alright it’s alright; but truth flowing from within is so joyous. You feel your capacity to love itself is so joyous, and capacity to give is also so joyous. So the Shiva Puja meant that you become love and feel the joy of love. You see when you love someone, if you love your child, you’re not bothered as to how it looks or how it appears, you just love. And if you try to be attentive to somebody because his appearance is good or he’s superficially good, or his manners are good, after some time you’ll be deceiving yourself. But if you’re inner being is beautiful then you will be happy with yourself first of all; because the source of joy is from within yourself. You do not get it from others.So to cleanse yourself and to be open is the best way to Read More …

Public Program Milan (Italy)

Baba Mama: Since music has no barriers, it has no nationality, it has no caste, Unclear(), religion. Neither can it be stopped by any nationality, neither can it be stopped by any boundaries or bullets or war heads. Music is universal and that’s why we have a conviction that this is made by the Divine. Is it the product of the divinity. It has one barrier though and that is a closed heart. Music has a direct nexus with the heart. It has nothing to do with your perception or understanding but it has to only pour its richness, its gravity, its melody into your heart. Our purpose here is to see that our music pours into your heart. Therefore it is my Unclear(Ernst) desire that please sit with all your open hearts which I am sure you are here for. Indian music, like the western music has twelve notes. It has C and C sharp, G and A and B and all that. But the Indian music has certain disciplines put in the system of presentation. Therefore, the creativity in music is discipline and is extremely pleasing to the ear, to the listening ear and very very compatible where the rhythm of heart has concerned. It is after many years of research that has gone into developing this Indian music to find out to what will recreate the man’s and what will give him the required mood for listening to this beautiful creative music. We are sure that we Read More …

Public Program Rome (Italy)

1990-0507 Public Program, Rome, Italy Please be seated. I bow to all the seekers of Truth. At a very outset we have to understand that Truth is what it is. We cannot organize it or imagine about it. But we have to unclear(treat) and knowing about your central nervous system. You can see clearly that I am very unclear() see with your eyes. but for an animal, he, what his understands is very limited quietly a human being has much greater sensitivity. To smell, taste, color everything. At human level we understand many things much more than animals but because of the evolutionary process. And this evolutionary process is a living process. It is not a process which is just a thought of imagined of but it is a living process. In the same way if we have to ascend, if we have to become a higher being, if we have to know the Truth, then this evolutionary process should give us that special status. At human level you cannot feel the Truth. People believe that this is the Truth, that is the Truth. Then there should be no fight, there should be no quarrel if its Absolute Truth. But like blind people holding an elephant is climbing differently people who believe that this is the Truth are doing the same thing. If this is the Truth, then universally everybody must accept it. And that is the reason we find that people are quarreling about things which is falsehood. So Read More …

Medical Conference: Reach the reality Fiuggi (Italy)

Medical Conference in Fiuggi, Italy, 05-05-1990 I bow to all the seekers of truth. As you know very well, that all the religions have talked of one thing that is, we should seek the truth and that we have to be born again. But it is not just a certificate or a kind of a group we form, say that we are born again. But it is the actualization to believe that we have found the truth, that by reading a particular scripture, we are the people who are following the truth is just taking us to the darkness of fundamentalism. And that’s why when people tell me that they are following the religion very strictly why is it physically, mentally, emotionally, they are so sick? But actually, they are not following reality. They have not tried to find out the reality. Thousands of years, our forefathers have been doing the same thing. There is no religion which has said that (inaudible) but this falsehood has  lead us into a very big mess that we have started hating each other in the name of religion and they have become now, all religions, very money-oriented. Either they go to the right side as told to you or go to the left side and become possessed. The ones who follow any religion whether it is Christian, Hindu, Muslim, any religion, is capable of doing any sin. There is no difference between any human being as such. They have to be truth-oriented and there is only one truth one must know that we Read More …

What is the difference between Sahaja Yoga and other yogas? Milan (Italy)

Public Program, Milan, 6 August 1989 I bow to all the seekers of truth. You are here to feel the truth. And not to just conceptualise it mentally. Now, there’s a question yesterday, people asked that what is the difference between Sahaja Yoga and other yogas. All these yogas have been written down by a saint called Patanjali, long time back. And he called it Ashtanga Yoga, Ashtanga, with eight facets. He existed thousands of years back, and that time we had a system in which the students went into the university to study under some enlightened soul, a guru, satguru. So, there are eight facets of the Yoga, mean union with the divine. So, he has got, the first one as yama. Yama Niyama. Yama is the first one in which he has written what we have to do to make our breathing all right or to control our misbehaviour. So, one-third of that is the asanas where you do physical exercises for a particular type of problem. But that is not Hatha Yoga. Hatha Yoga is a complete Patanjali Yoga Shastra, Yoga – that is complete Patanjali Yoga scripture. Asanas or these practices of physical exercises is a very wee bit, is one one-twenty fourth of one of them. ‘Ha’ and ‘Tha’, Ha means the sun and Tha means the moon. So both are considered in Hatha Yoga. Because we are not only physical beings. We are [a] physical being, we are mental being, we are emotional being, Read More …

Shri Bhairavnath Puja: Bhairava protects the Left Side Garlate (Italy)

Shri Bhairavanath puja. Garlate ashram, Lecco (Italy), 6 August 1989. Today, we have gathered here to do puja to Bhairavanath. I think we have not understood the significance of Bhairavanath who runs up and down on the Ida Nadi. Ida Nadi is the nadi of Chandrama, is of the moon. So this is a channel for us to cool down. So the work of Bhairavanath ji is to cool us down. For example, people have a hot temper with their ego, with their liver, whatever it is, and if a person is in a big temper, then Bhairavanath plays tricks on that person to cool him down. He organizes everything under his own control with ganas’ help, with Ganapati’s help, to cool down your temperament, to give you a balance. So, if somebody is a very hot-tempered person and he crosses all the limits of his temper, then somehow or other, Bhairavanath will organise, also with the help of Hanumana, to show that this stupidity of anger is no good. So, for example, people who are depressed or who become left-sided, Hanumana tries to help them to come out of it, no doubt, but also Bhairavanath helps them very much more to come out of it. Now a person who is left-sided cannot be collective. It is very difficult for a person who is very left-sided, who is all the time feeling very sad, unhappy and worried, cannot enjoy the fun of collectivity. While a hot-tempered person, a right-sided person, Read More …

Public Program Milan (Italy)

1989 – 0805 Public Program Milan Italy Baba Mama: Ladies and gentlemen on behalf of the Nirmal Sangeet Sarita which is the musical wing of Sahaja Yoga baba mama sending his Namaskars to all of you. The hall, the acoustics, the audience and the public UNCLEAR[] is here is so beautiful that one would be inspired to sing, to organize. But here I am not concerned with this hall, I am concerned with another hall which has limitless capacity which has still more beautiful acoustics, and a very public system that is your heart. Like the Divinity even has nexus with the heart basically. The receptivity of the artist thought will very much depend on the openness of the heart therefore. The devotional songs that we are going to sing are a concept of the artist which are meant for into your heart directly without there have been any loss of thought. Therefore, there will be no barrier of the type of music, or the language used or the tune set. I commence this evening program by reciting three mantras invoking the blessings of the deity.  Three Maha Mantras After the mantras we will have a short recite to our shehnai because in India Shehnai always all the auspiciousness. UNCLEAR[]. Shehnai Music UNCLEAR[] if you calp along the rhythm of the songs also.  This song is had been sung by Miss Chaya Vani Devi and accompanying here in the Harmonium was Prabhakar Rao ji Dhakre.  Bhajans The tempo of the Read More …

Public Program Naples (Italy)

1989 – 0508 Public Program, Naples, Italy I bow to all the seekers of Truth. Just now in the television, they asked me a question. That how many, there are so many people why have they come here? I said, in the modern times, there has been a category of people who are born who are seeking Truth. A poet hundred years back or Willium Blake has called them as ‘Men of God will be coming and they will themselves become saints and they will have power to make others saints’. So, you are here to know the Truth. The Truth that is absolute. For example, in these modern times we have so many choices. The machinery has brought out so many things, the science has given so many alternatives. Also, we do not know how far it go. People follow different ideologies and different religions but they find that no religion can stop them from doing something sinful or wrong. So one realizes that there is some sort of a mistakes somewhere and the mistake is very simple that UNCLEAR[] all religions you must seek the eternal and keep the transitory in its own limitations. All the religions have said that you have to be born again and you have to know yourself. But it does not work out. In every religion there is fight going on. They follow the same prophet, the same person but still there is a fight gong on. And if it is the truth, Read More …

Public Program Sorrento (Italy)

1989-05-07 Public Program Sorrento Italy SYogi: Please we request all the Sahaja yogis to go by the outside and let the local people be inside [UNCLEAR] receive it.    These ladies can come. Come [UNCLEAR] from here [S.Yogi – Presenter – Italian] [S.Yogi – Presenter – Italian]  SYogi: Sahaja yogis, please can sit in the middle. All the Sahaja yogis can sit in the middle; Those who are outside, specially. You don’t need to stand, you can sit. There is room also here. SYogi: [Presenter – Italian]  SYogi: [Presenter – Italian] Please don’t take pictures during Shri Mataji’s speech. At the end you can do what you like but not during the speech because it may disturb the audience.  SYogi: [Presenter – Italian]  SYogi: [Presenter – Italian]    I bow to all the seekers of Truth. And the time has come for all of us to find out the Absolute Truth. We follow religions like Christianity, Hinduism, other religions – so many are there – Sikhism but there is no binding force on us.      Shri  Mataji: There is no binding force that we should be righteous, that we should be joy ourselves. Anyone can do any sin, can do any harm. For Christ just talked about love. The main point we have missed in every religion, is very simple. Every religion has said one thing common that, “You must seek the Eternal and live with the transitory in moderation and [UNCLEAR] limitations.” Because transitory things have a built-in capacity to destroy themselves Read More …

Public Program Milan (Italy)

1988-0802 Public Program, City Hall, Milan, Italy Baba Mama: …first part and unclear(fine/final) instrument music the second part will be vocal music. In the vocal music we are going to have all bhajans and qawwalis which are of very fast tempo and very strong rhythm. So that you can with the permission of Shri Mataji, you can dance, clap abundance abundant and in abandonment. I am now requesting Prabakar Rao Dhakre to perform on the harmonium he yesterday performed on the violin and also sang unclear() may be harmonium. He plays the harmonium in the accordance unclear(). Shri Mataji: Any questions? Any questions?  I bow to all the seekers of Truth. Yesterday I had said that I would like to have some questions from you and so far, only one question has arrived which is answerable sensible thing about Kundalini awakening. She has asked that she has read in many books that Kundalini awakening can be very dangerous for people if they are not ready. It is said by people who have no authority to raise the Kundalini. First of all, the person who has to raise the Kundalini has to be a realized soul, a pure personality. And has to be knowledgeable. If somebody push the fingers in plug and says you get electricity shock, naturally you will. But actually, Kundalini is your individual Mother. When your mother gave you birth, she took all the trouble by herself. She did not trouble you. In the same way Kundalini takes Read More …

Public Program Milan (Italy)

1988-0801 Public Program, City Hall, Milan, Italy Baba Mama: Indian classical music is just like the western music has the similar nodes. There are seven sharp nodes and five flat nodes. The distinction however here lies in the improvisation that one can made out of these various notations. The Indian music also differs from western music as far as the percussion unclear(). We have various types of rhythms from 4,6,7,8,11,12,16,18 like this. And unlike your drums, our drums are played by the hands. With this brief introduction I will introduce to you my artists one by one. Mr. Shankar Bhattacharya on the Sarod, Mr. Nasir Khan on the Sitar, he is the baby of the team. Mr. Nagu Rao Gaikwad on the Shehnai, Mr. Prabhakar ji Dhakde who plays the Violin, plays the Harmonium and sing also. Miss Chaya Vankride who sings unclear(), Sanjay Talwar who sings, Abhijeet Majumder who plays the Tabla and Ashok Dhoke who plays the dholak as well as the Tabla. We are beginning this evening program with the three slokas which we normally singing in the set tune in Rag ‘Jai jai wanti’. Thank you. Gajal. Gajal is written in the Urdu language but these gajals are ruhani – they are Divine, dedicated to the divinity. The main theme of this gajal is means if you love in your heart, a smallest word would suffice to provide the quenching of the thirst otherwise the whole maya or materialism it is like an ocean which is Read More …

Revolution of Love Rome (Italy)

“Revolution of Love”, Public Program. Rome (Italy), 26 October 1987. I bow to all the seekers of love and joy. When we talk of love and joy we have to know that it comes from reality, from the truth. Anything that is false or unreal cannot give you eternal joy. But truth is what it is. You cannot say with your own intelligence, “This is truth and this is not truth.” Everybody when they see the truth has to be the same. The truth cannot be organized, it is what it is. We cannot prophesize or we cannot say, profess that this is truth. We cannot pay money for it. Now as it is, in the process of our evolution that we reveal truth after truth. It is at the epitome of evolution you have to receive the ultimate truth. In the human awareness we live on a relative plane. There is no way to know what is absolute truth. Within us lies the power to take us to that state of absolute. That is what it is, that you are the Spirit. You are not this body, you are not this mind, you are not this ego, you are not these thoughts. What you are is the Spirit. As I told you, to know the Spirit we have to go through the living process. As in our evolutionary state we have come to human state without thinking about it, without putting any effort. In the same way we have Read More …

“The light of love”, Evening before Diwali Puja Lecco (Italy)

“The light of love”, Evening before Diwali Puja, Lake of Como (Italy), 24 Ottobre 1987. [After the chant.]May God bless you all.And all the blessings of Lakshmi, all the Ashta Lakshmi, is upon you. May God bless you Today we have come here to celebrate a great festival of Deepavali, meaning the rows of lights, or the Festival of Lights. It was to celebrate the coronation of Shri Rama also, that is to say symbolically to celebrate the establishment of a kingdom which has a benevolent administration.Today I find all of you here as the lights sitting before Me and with these lights I feel the Deepavali really celebrated; I see the twinkling of those eyes, twinkling in the eye of that light which is within you. In the lamp of light we have to put something that is soft, like ghee; that’s something very mild and soft, is the love of our heart. And that burns to give this soothing light of love to others.Such a person who has this light of love loves himself as well and emits love for others. I’ve been hearing about the way people used to torture themselves to become saintly. There’s no need at all for Sahaja Yogis, at all, to torture themselves. But to be the light of a higher magnitude they have to be full of love and this love they get it from where? You may say it is from Me. It’s true but the sap of the tree flows Read More …

Press Conference Piacenza (Italy)

Press Conference With Shri Mataji, Piacenza, Italy 24-10-1987 19871023_PressConference_Italy Thank you very much. She is going to give the introduction.  Yogi: unclear()  She wants to know if there unclear(Tuner is the fest time..) that she care about feminine incarnation and she wants to know unclear(how easily) to know about this type of a feminine incarnation. Because it is important to know all the women.  Shri Mataji : with all the ?  Yogi: Women. Shri Mataji: I didn’t follow this.. Yogini : She is asking about the female incarnation of the..role Shri Mataji: See you talk of., we talk of the God Almighty as the Father, and Christ as his Son but we don’t talk about the Mother. How can there be a Father and a Son and no Mother? But there is, the Holy Ghost. That’s the Primordial Mother. That time they did not want to talk about the Mother of Christ. Because Christ has a job is to be done that he had to get himself crucified. But if they had known that the mother is also very powerful, they would attack her. And though Christ has forgiven the people who crucified him he would never had forgiven the people who would have attacked his mother. He has eleven powers of destruction. And with anyone of them he could have finished all of them. But there was a special purpose in getting crucified. The message of Christ life is resurrection not crucifixion. Now in these modern times when the Read More …

This Modern Age Teatro dell'Elfo, Milan (Italy)

Public Program, “This Modern Age”. Teatro dell’Elfo, Milan (Italy), 22 October 1987. [Sahaja yogis sing Namostute, Ciuri Ciuri, Powada, Ai Giri Nandini Mahishasura Mardini] I bow to all the seekers of truth and joy. I am gratified to see all of you enjoying the music of My children here. They sing in pure joy. And that is what one has to understand that everything can be only enjoyed if there is purity. That purity comes with us when you are born. We are not sinners when we are children, we are innocent people when we are children. But as we grow, with our own intelligence, seeking, we try to develop a kind of an awareness which gets entangled into wrong things. What we think freedom has no guidelines, is no absolute value to it [What we think freedom]. And there is no absolute way of judgment. We live in the world of relativity. That is human awareness. Now I am here to give you a message that you have all the possibility of becoming the absolute. You may follow any philosophy, any religion, anything that conditions your mind, but you cannot get your weaknesses. Out of fear we may do many things, but it’s not built in within us that we are righteous, that we are generous, that we are virtuous. Now you see these young people here, and there are many like this, thousands and thousands of them all over the world. In their seeking of truth they were Read More …

All-pervading power has got all the telecommunication Sala della Provincia di Milano, Milan (Italy)

Public Program Day 1, Sala della Provincia di Milano, Milan (Italy) [Introduction in Italian by a Sahaja Yogi until min 33:51] I bow to all the seekers of truth. Already now you know about the subtle centers that are in the spinal cord, also in the brain. So when the Kundalini raises from its seat from the triangular bone and pierces through the fontanel bone area which was a soft bone in your childhood it again becomes soft and then the Grace which is a very subtle energy surrounding us, which is all-pervading, starts pouring down the bliss. Kundalini is the reflection of the Holy Ghost. Holy Ghost is the power of God, we can call it the Primordial Mother. We have a Divine Trinity but we do not talk about the mother. You have father – the God, then you have son – the God and the Holy Ghost. How can a father have a son without a mother? So from the very beginning it’s an attack on the motherhood and that is why you know that it is not allowed for women to be the priest also. But in India or in all other scriptures it is believed that it is the Primordial Mother who has created this universe. That is the Holy Ghost is the Mother, it is not a dove but a mother.  So this Primordial Mother which is the power of God resides as a reflection in the triangular bone which Greeks accepted as Athina, Read More …

The problem lies with human beings Rome (Italy)

Public program, day 2 – Rome Italy, 10-05-1986 I bow to all the seekers of truth. I am also very sorry today that because of some procession we got delayed and I hope you don’t mind. And that it was for peace. It’s very surprising that by agitating how can we have peace? If you stop one thing they start another thing. First they will have wars then at the peace time they will prepare for wars. They cannot sit down without quarrelling. The greater nations they become, the greater quarrelsome they become. This is the problem, no use agitating. Already they have had one shock and they have to have another one. But even if they stop atomic energy they’ll start something else. Problem is to be attacked basically. The problem lies with human beings not with atomic energy.  Human beings do not know the power of love. They have only one way of relating to another – is some sort of a hatred. You must have heard of the relationship of love-hate, its funny staff, isn’t it? But human beings are not yet complete. That’s what I told you yesterday, they have to be complete to understand what they are up to. As I told you yesterday we have to be the whole, evolve to be the whole. Now how can we quarrel when we are at the whole? Like this finger won’t quarrel with this finger, is it? Because it knows that it is a part and Read More …

Now the time has come for you to experience the Truth Rome (Italy)

Public Programme Day 1, Rome, Italy 09-05-1986 I bow to all the seekers of Truth.But you have to ask only for the Truth and nothing else.Our idea about Truth is also based upon our concepts that we have got from somebody else. Also, it might be due to some sort of our ego-oriented concept that we have created ourselves.But Truth is what it is and you cannot make it.So, if I say to you something, you don’t have to blindly believe me. But now the time has come for you to experience the Truth. In your evolutionary process now, from amoeba stage to this stage, you have arrived, whatever you have achieved is felt on your central nervous system. But it has to admitted that human beings have not reached their complete stage. The purpose for which they were made human beings is not yet established, otherwise there would have been no problems of any kind. Maybe that, so far, it was not possible to manifest the Truth in an en-masse way. And maybe that there were only very few flowers that came on the Tree of Life till today. But nowadays, as you see, there are so many seekers and what are they seeking is the Truth.First of all, you have to know that you cannot put in any effort for that. You cannot pay for it. The Divine does not understand money, nor you can conceive it, or you can preach about it; it has to happen to Read More …

You become the Spirit spontaneously Scuola Grande San Giovanni Evangelista, Venice (Italy)

Public Program, Venice, Italy, 07-05-1986 I bow to all the seekers of truth. It was such a great joy for me to come to Venice to meet you again. And I know there are many seekers in this place and they are trying to seek the truth. Without finding the truth and without becoming that, we cannot talk of peace. The peace resides within us, and the human beings who talk of peace themselves are not peaceful and how can they bring peace when they are not in that state themselves? To find the truth we feel we have to put in some efforts, because you are seekers and you are frantically trying to find the truth you go to all kinds of extremes. You’ve been to drugs, you’ve been to fake gurus, you have done that whatever a human being can do. But I have come to tell you, you don’t have to do anything of that kind. As you have become a human being from the amoeba stage, spontaneously, in the same way you become the Spirit spontaneously. It is nothing artificial that can work it out, or human endeavour that can bring forth the result. The one who has created us has already made all the arrangements for our ascent. With all His love and attention, He has very delicately made all these beautiful chakras within us. At human awareness, we do not know what lies within us, we do not know what organs there are in Read More …

Only thing we have to accept that still we have to know much more Milan (Italy)

1986-05-05 Public Program 1 in Milano [Completion of an introduction in Italian until min 02:36] I bow to all the seekers of truth.  So far we have heard so much about the truth. All the great prophets, seers and incarnations have taught that the truth can be only realized if you are born again. This happening as people have put before us has been a very artificial one. Just by having a concept or a belief that you are born again you cannot become that. In the process of our evolution we have become human beings and if we have to become something higher it has to be in the same process of evolution. But we do not think about how did we get to this position, what is the energy within us which has made us human beings. We are not aware of this energy within us. We take our human life for granted. And even the scientists do not explain how we have evolved.  Now in human awareness you are not aware of your organs in the body, till you feel the pain in the stomach you don’t know it exists there. Now these centres are existing in a subtler form and till you become that subtler being you cannot see them. These are the centres which exist on your parasympathetic nervous system. And for doctors it is very little known what is parasympathetic. They say it is autonomous nervous system but if you ask them who is this Read More …

Diwali Puja: It’s only the Sahaja Yogis who can blacken or enlighten the Name of God Almighty Tivoli (Italy)

Diwali Puja, Tivoli, Rome, 17 November 1985. Today we have assembled here to celebrate the Diwali, the Deepavali. Actually, only after Sahaja Yoga started, the real Diwali is taking shape. We had many beautiful lamps, and we had lot of oil to burn, but there was no spark, to enlighten the deepas. And the wick, as you call it – is called as bati in Hindi language- is like your Kundalini, so the Kundalini had to meet the spark. The beautiful lamps were all a waste, purposeless, pointless. And this is the great blessings in modern times, that so many lights are enlightened and we are having a Deepavali of human hearts. When you become the light, you don’t worry about the lamp, how it looks, how it is to be made, it’s all done. You just have to worry about the flame, about the oil, because it’s the oil that burns and gives light. In Sanskrit language – which is the language of the Gods – the oil is called as “snigdh”, ‘snigdha’; is something that is soft but is ‘snigdha’. And ‘sneha’ means ‘friendship of love.’ And the poets in other [Indian] languages have used this word, in different way calling it ‘neha’. They have sung the praise of this love. Every poet, every Saint has used this word in their beautiful poetry, whether they were in separation or they were in the meeting, in the yoga, in the union. This love is the thing that gives the Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis: Racism, Evening Program, Eve of Diwali Tivoli (Italy)

Evening before Diwali, Tivoli, 16 November 1985. You see only I am understanding and we are understanding from Maharashtra and this is to be done by many people so it’s different type. But a here they are saying that you should surrender to the Mother, that you have been to Kolhapur to the temple of Mahalakshmi. And you know the Mahalakshmi is the central path of Sushumna and there they go and pray to the Kundalini Ambe. That now you have awakened in the Mahalakshmi Temple. They go and sing there. That’s the Mahalakshmi temple and there they praise the Kundalini because Mahalakshmi is there but in Mahalakshmi’s channel of the central path the Kundalini has to awaken. So today today it’s the Ambe. It’s surprising that in the Mahalakshmi Temple that they go and sing this song of Amba, isn’t it? But the reason is that they want that in the Temple of Mahalakshmi only the Kundalini can rise so they are addressing Amba. That’s the beauty of this song. You follow my point. You extend it. Today is the great day my joy knows no bounds.[To Gregoire] Translate it. [Laughter]Gregoire: In which language Shri Mataji? French? Italian?Shri Mataji: Italian. I do not know how to thank people of U.K. and some of them who took such a great lead to manifest this new collectivity. Of course, I do not want to name them because they will feel embarrassed.But the whole thing started on a very low note and Read More …

This is the most important time Venice (Italy)

This is the most important time, Venice, Italy, 1985-05-22 I bow to all the seekers of truth. People told me that in Venice, there are many seekers. But I did not know that there are so many, I am very happy to meet you all. Now at this time we have to know, that this is the most important time for all the seekers; because this is the time when you have to get your seeking, yourself, your Spirit. In the history of seeking, we have never had so many seekers on this earth. The reason is, this is the special time that has come, where you have to get your blessings of your age old seeking. Whatever you have heard about the kundalini is the knowledge of the roots. The tree of the human civilization has grown too big and we must seek our roots, otherwise all this that is developed can be destroyed in no time. We have to ask ourselves a question, “ Why we are created from amoeba to this stage of a human being ?” The second question should be asked to ourselves, we see day the miracles of living force around us but we have never felt the existence of it. When you ask these two questions, the third question comes, to our mind, “ Why are we here? What are we doing here? What are we supposed to seek? What is the truth?” In our search we have become human beings, but beyond Read More …

Two powers within Rome (Italy)

From 30:27sec Shri Mataji speaks Shri Mataji:  I bow to all the seekers of truth. As I said yesterday the seekers of truth are a special category of people in the evolutionary process of human beings. Those who are seeking reality see clearly that whatever we have known so far is not the reality, but whatever is unknown is not reality also. Human beings have been made especially with great care, delicately to ascent to the highest state of the spirit and there are many things which are kept away absolutely from their awareness just to keep them peaceful.  For example, we do not know about our subconscious and about collective subconscious, also we do not know about Supra conscious area and the collective Supra conscious. They are manifested within us by two powers, as you see – one the power of Desire on the left hand side and one by the power of action on the right hand side.  The left hand side, which caters to our subconscious, manifests the emotions within us and all the conditioning that people talk about and beyond the subconscious lies the collective subconscious. On the right hand side of ours is manifested our futures, which is the Supra conscious mind and the right side channel what we call as the channel for action manifest the Supra conscious, beyond that lies the collective supra conscious, but the super consciousness is on the top of our head where we have to ascent, we are not Read More …

Achieve the Absolute Rome (Italy)

Public program, day 1, Rome, Italy, 20-05-1985 I bow to all seekers of Truth (Shri Mataji folds her hands and bow to the audience) First of all, we must know, what are we seeking. What is the Truth? The truth is very simple, that in our evolutionary process we have not yet completed our journey. We have become human beings, but we have to still get to a position which is absolute. A state where we’ll have joy, where we will be blissful and where we will become collectively conscious.When people are not satisfied with what they have, they start seeking the Truth and such people are of a special category. These are quite a lot in the modern times, while in the beginning of life there were very few who were seeking the Truth. In the beginning, men started seeking protection from Nature, and then he tried to find out possession, money, power and a state reached where he found that these things do not give you permanent satisfaction.We believe that a certain thing if we get, we will be very joyous and satisfied. Like somebody wants to have a car, then he is not satisfied. Then he wants to have a house, then he is not satisfied. Like that he is seeking about the pleasures of life, goes on and on and on, but he is never satisfied. Thus, the law of economics says that wants, in general, are never satiable in particular maybe but not in general. Read More …

Press Conference Rome (Italy)

Interview, Press Conference, Rome (Italy), 18 May 1985. I’m sorry, very sorry to be late but I was in tv interview there, very sorry.  I’ll ask all of you to sit down. [Shri Mataji speaks aside to Sahaja Yogis, also about offering refreshments to the journalists who have been waiting for quite a long time.] [Introduction in Italian until 07:38] Interviewer: What is the difference between Sahaja Yoga and the other kinds of yoga that we know in Europe? Shri Mataji: This Patanjali Yoga Shastra which was used about 78 000 years back was a system he had developed to prepare people for Self-realization. That was the time when children used to go to school in the forest and lead a very celibate life till the age of 25 years. So they were taught how to discipline themselves, how to cleanse their body under the guidance of a very evolved realized soul. But the physical exercises you do here is absolutely indiscriminate because it has no relevance to the body. It has to relate to different centers – subtle centers; wherever is the problem in the center that is the exercise one has to do and that was only known to those great masters. So they have got some sort of a half-baked ideas out of a little thing out the eight part, a little bit, called as Physical Yoga which has no relevance at all, anywhere. Then if you develop too much of your physical being you neglect your Read More …

Be serious about it Milan (Italy)

1985-0515 Public Program, Milan, Italy I bow to all the seekers of Truth. Already now you know about the subtle centres that are in this spinal cord, also in the brain. So, when the Kundalini rises from Its seat, from the triangular bone, and pierces through the fontanel bone area, which was the soft bone in your childhood, it again becomes soft. And then the Grace, which is a very subtle energy surrounding us, which is all-pervading, starts falling down, the Bliss.  Kundalini is the reflection of the Holy Ghost. Holy Ghost is the power of God. We can call It the primordial Mother. We have the Trinity, the divine Trinity, but we do not talk about the Mother. You have Father, the God; then you have Son, the God, and the Holy Ghost. How can a father have a son without a mother? So, from the very beginning, it is an attack on the Mother. And that is why you know that it is not allowed for women to be the priests also. But in India, or in all of the scriptures, it is believed that it is the Primordial Mother who created this universe. That is the Holy Ghost is the Mother. It is not a dove but a Mother.  So this Primordial Mother, which is the power of God, resides as a reflection in the triangular bone, which Greeks accepted as Athena, as the Primordial Mother, Athena. So, this power rises within us and pierces through the Read More …

Public Program Milan (Italy)

Public Program, Milan, Italy 14-05-1985 I bow to all the seekers of Truth. But one has to know what is the Truth and what are we seeking. For this, one has to realize that these modern times are special times. When many people are born especially, to seek their Self, their Spirit. But this method of seeking has to come from understanding of ancient times. It cannot just start a new method, some sort of new fact that could be called as a seeking way. Like I went to a place called Pune in India, and there were some people suffering from all kinds of diseases: blood pressure, anginas, heart troubles, spondylitis and I was amazed at their suffering. So, they said that they have a guru whom they followed and he has given them some sort of odd thing called “shakti path”. I said this one I never heard before, where did you read this book, in what scriptures it is written? It has to be mentioned somewhere in the ancient scriptures as well. If your guru cannot even keep you in good health with such sufferings, such a guru! Because as a mother I feel that he should look after your health. So, it has to be based on the traditions of seeking, that what they had said about Self-realization is the experience of the Spirit. Now, this book that they were referring to was written only 60 or 70 years back, by somebody who talked of these Read More …

The Channels Rome (Italy)

1984-09-20 Second Public Program in Rome [An Italian speaker (Guido) gives an introduction in Italian before the arrival of Shri Mataji.] Thank you, thank you [Shri Mataji thanks for the flowers received]. Sit down. What has he said, so far what has he talked about? He talked about what? Yogi: He’s been talking principally about the Mother. [Shri Mataji laughs] I bow to all the seekers of truth. Yesterday I talked to you about the different centres, subtle centres within us, and also when a person reaches a higher state of awareness what happens to him. At the human level, when we exist as normal human beings, there are three channels which work within us automatically. They are called as autonomous nervous systems, but if you ask them who is this “auto” the medical science cannot say who is that. They just say that this is autonomous, [it’s] a name given, but they do not explain. But whatever we achieve in our evolutionary process is expressed in our central nervous system, as I told you yesterday. Now if you ask a dog to go through a dirty lane he can just walk through, he has no problems. But if you ask a human being to pass through a dirty lane he cannot do it, because in his awareness he has developed a sense of dirt, filth, colour, so many things, music. But for an animal, it is Greek and Latin. In the same way, a person who is not a Read More …

Experience the Spirit on your central nervous system Rome (Italy)

Public Program Day 1 Teatro Aurora, Rome (Italy), 19 September 1984 I bow to all the seekers of truth. In life, we must be thinking about the reality that we have not known so far. We must have asked questions to ourselves, why we are on his earth? What is the purpose? And what is the truth is a very important thing we should try to find out. So far in the human awareness, whatever we know, is on our central nervous system. But we have not had the experience of the Spirit on our nervous system. We have heard in many scriptures, Indian, Chinese, Bible, that there is a Spirit that guides us. It is also said that you have to be the Spirit. And when Christ said that, “You have to be born again to be the Spirit”, Nicodemus asked him, ‘Do you mean to say, I should enter into the womb of my Mother?’ So Christ said, ‘No, whatever is born of the flesh is flesh, but whatever is born of the Holy Ghost, of the Holy Spirit is the Spirit.’ That means clearly that so far in human awareness we have not reached our purpose. But this is not only said by Christ. Thousands of years back, in India, so many people have been telling that you must get your ‘Self Realisation’. Actually the people were so much against Christ, that they did not allow Him to live long to explain much. And those who started Read More …

When we are seeking the truth, we have to know also what is the truth Milan (Italy)

Public Programme, Milan, 17 September 1984. I bow to all the seekers of truth. It gives Me tremendous pleasure to be among the people of Milan, which means the middle, the middle path. The people who are in the middle path are the best suited for their ascent because those who go to extremes go away from reality. But those who lead a moderate life, a balanced life, a sensible life are very well suited for their ascent. Now when we are seeking the truth, we have to know also what is the truth. The truth is that we are the Spirit. We are not this body, this physical being, this mental being, but we are the Spirit, the spiritual being. In the process of our evolutionary ascent we have come to this stage where we are called as human beings. But we have not found yet our absolute. We live in a very relative world. That is why we are so restless, there are problems of wars, there are problems of disintegration. Now whatever I’m going to tell you is the knowledge of the roots. We know the tree but not the roots. Italy is a country of traditions. In the same way India is a country of tradition but traditions of spirituality. There have been people seeking in that country since ages, and they have been able to find out something so great about ourselves. But there is no doubt there are many fake people who have come Read More …

Shri Ekadasha Rudra Puja: Rudra is the destructive power of Shiva Como (Italy)

Shri Ekadasha Rudra Puja. Faggeto Lario, Como (Italy), 16 September 1984. Today, we are doing a special type of puja which is performed in the glory of Ekadasha Rudra. Rudra is the destructive power of Shiva, of the Spirit. Now one power, which is His nature, is forgiveness. He forgives, because we are human beings, we commit mistakes, we do wrong things, we get tempted, our attention is disturbed – so he forgives us. He also forgives us when we spoil our chastity, we do immoral things, we do thieving, and we do things that are against God, talk against Him. He also forgives our superficialities, jealousies, our lust, our anger.  Also He forgives our attachments, petty jealousies, vanities and also possessiveness. He forgives our egoistical behaviour and also our subordination to wrong things. But every action has a reaction, and when He forgives, He thinks that He has given you a big grace-mark, and that reaction builds up within Him as a wrath, against those who are forgiven, [who] try to do greater mistakes. Especially, after Realisation, because such a big blessing there is of the Realisation – you’ve got the light and, in the light, if you are holding onto a snake then His wrath goes up because he sees how stupid you have been. [Italian translator is confused. Shri Mataji re-iterates] What I am saying is that after Realisation, especially, He is much more sensitive that, people who are forgiven and have been given such a big Read More …

Shri Ganesha Puja: The Birthday of Shri Ganesha Tivoli (Italy)

Shri Ganesha puja. Tivoli (Italy) 11th September 1983. Today we are celebrating the Birthday of Shri Ganesha, because it is a very important thing for all of us that we should celebrate His Birthday; and yesterday we did the Havana. But yesterday we had many new people so I could not talk to you very clearly about Shri Ganesha’s deeper manifestations. You know that He resides within us.[Shri Mataji speaks in Hindi]Now we have a very great asset within us that we know about Shri Ganesha, and that we can excite His powers.Shri Mataji [to an Italian Yogini]: Please translate.To manifest Shri Ganesha, we have to do certain amount of Tapasya – penance. First we have to say, when we sit for meditation, that: “I am going to be worthy of Your appreciation. Make me humble, so that I am appreciated by You, and my only desire is to please You.” Then you sit down in complete preparedness, meditating over your Mooladhara, putting your attention to it with absolute purity. Now you have my photograph before you and you tell the photograph that, “Mother, You are Shri Ganesha. You give me wisdom and discretion”. So, attention at the Mooladhara chakra, which is actually below the sacrum bone. You put your right hand towards the photograph and left hand on the Mother Earth. Now this wilI tell you that your mind, or your brain which is full of confusion, which has no discretion, which is complicated, which does the same mistakes Read More …

Seekers of Joy Auditorium RAI del Foro Italico, Rome (Italy)

Third Public Program Day 3, “Seekers of Joy”. Rome (Italy), 10 September 1983. I bow to all the seekers of joy. I’ve had many, many questions from the last lecture. And gradually in my own lecture you will find, I have tried to answer some of them. But only possible to divert all my today’s lecture on those, because I want to tell you about the spirit. It seems there is someone who is a learned man about Indian philosophy and I was happy to know that he has also studied that. Because all that is not so known to the western world, I didn’t want to bring it in. [Aside: Will you please sit down in your place and don’t disturb everyone – this gentleman I don’t know why he wants to disturb. Why don’t you go? Yesterday he was misbehaving also for nothing at all.] This gentleman has asked a question about spandakarika – is a word which is used for Kundalini which creates the spanda. Spanda is the pulsation. Whether this is the same? Yes, it is absolutely the same, but it is not any ism, like what you called as shaibaism. In the sixth century we had a very great saint in India or you can call him a incarnation or a great master, called Adi Shankaracharya – who has very clearly said that Kundalini has to be awakened Sahaja. He wrote many treaties like Viveka Churamani and all those. And then he got fed-up with Read More …