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How to get the light of the Spirit in our heart? Melbourne Town Hall, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program [INAUDIBLE] Thank you! [INAUDIBLE] [ALL CLAP] Vishwa Vanditaa Nirmala Mata Sarva Pujitaa Nirmala Mata Brahma Swaroopini Yoga Nirupini Shubhdaam Vardaam namo namah Vishwa Vanditaa Nirmala Mata Sarva Pujitaa Nirmala Mata [MUSIC] [MUSIC] – aa, aa, aa, aa – Very low now. That’s better. – Jagat Janani Nirmala, Moola Prakriti Akhileshwar ki – Still Nitya Satya Sanatana – Parashakti Parmeshwar kii – [UNCLEAR – COIL IT UP?] – Vishwa Dharini aa, aa, aa; Mangal Kaarini aa, aa, aa – If you can make this arch smaller, it’ll be better. Shubhdaam Vardaam namo namah Vishwa Vanditaa Nirmala Mata Sarva Pujitaa; Nirmala Mata [MUSIC] [MUSIC] – aa, aa, aa aa – [UNCLEAR – WAISE HI OR LET’S SEE?] Jagat Janani Nirmala, Niraashreya Sarveshwari Prem Murti Bhaktavatsala, Snehamayee Mateshwari Bhakti Pradayini, aa, aa , aa; Mukti Pradayini, aa, aa, aa Shubhdaam Vardaam namo namaha Vishwa Vanditaa Nirmala Mata Sarva Pujitaa Nirmala Mata [MUSIC] [MUSIC] aa, aa, aa, aa; Pragata Saguna Nirguna Ridhi Sidhi ki Daatri hai – Saumya Sarla Mahamana, Patanjali Guna Patri hai – [UNCLEAR – LET IT BE LIKE THIS?] Ghat ghat Vaasini, aa, aa, aa; Atma Vikaasini Shubhdaam Vardaam namo namaha Vishwa Vanditaa Nirmala Mata Sarva Pujitaa Nirmala Mata Brahma Swaroopini aa, aa, aa; Yoga Nirupini aa, aa, aa Shubhdaam Vardaam namo namaha Vishwa Vanditaa, Vishwa Vanditaa; Nirmala Mata Sarva Pujitaa, Sarva Pujitaa; Nirmala Mata Nirmala Mata Nirmala Mata Thank You! [CLAPPING] Still You’re going down, alright. There’s no room. I bow to all the seekers of truth. At Read More …

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Arrival Talk Melbourne Airport, Melbourne (Australia)

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Informal Talk to Yogis. Melbourne Airport (Australia), 19 February 1995. I never expected you all here but, very happy to see you, that our, Melbourne has grown so much so beautifully. You all look so nice. It was, quite a struggle to begin with, but it had worked out and we all have come together now, in such a beautiful way. There were many in Ganapatipule I couldn’t talk to you directly, that time. How many got married in Ganapatipule? This time. None from Melbourne. But there were many Australians married. All right next time. What I was told that most of the young boys and young girls are married now and we had a problem, because the boys were all about six feet and all the girls were below five feet. But when I told them that they said: ‘Mother You are so concerned about heights so, we are very thankful You can marry us and we don’t mind.’ So I said: ‘It’s good.’ Otherwise see, sometimes only on height people fight. It seems children are very happy in the school and they are enjoying there. Now I’ve started a new thing again, is a gymnasium, where you have to learn gyms and you have to develop your bodies to be Mr Universe. Such a nice, family of ours, and the way things are working out all over the world, it’s very, joy-giving for Me. It’s all so easy for Sahaja Yoga. Just have to meditate and, penetrate more Read More …

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Picnic Maroondah Dam, Melbourne (Australia)

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Picnic , Maroondah Dam, Melbourne (Australia) 31-3-1994 That time I used to be so happy that you people all have joined together, the collectivity is good and that you are helping the leader, who is very capable, I must say, you are so lucky to have such a leader who is so capable, educated, wise and I can’t understand how people do not enjoy his leadership. If you have any problems, tell Me – no harm. You see, from Australia I get such thick letters always [UNCLEAR – WHEN THEY WRITE?] but the main thing they never write. Like, I never wanted them to go to America because America is a Hell, you see. I didn’t want them, they’ll lose their vibrations – I mean, it’s not a place to go to and without asking Me they all went. Otherwise for a small thing like putting a WC somewhere, they’ll write to Me but for going to America no body wrote, I never knew, I was surprised to see thirty five people coming on top of these few four, five sahaja yogis there. And the way they talked to these people also shocked [ASIDE – Paani Dena (Give Water)] They are actually very, very good sahaja yogis; They are few, very few but one better than the other – wonderful people they are! And gradually they are spreading sahaja yoga in a very good way. So, they told Me that some of the sahaja yogis who went from America, they Read More …

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Know your inner self fully Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program, Melbourne (Australia). 30 March 1994. I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset, I have to tell you that truth is what it is. You cannot change it; you cannot transform it; you cannot conceptualize it. It is what it is; it was what it was and it will be what it will be. Whatever, I want to tell you today, I have to request you, to keep your mind open, like scientist. You need not believe into what I say. We have had enough of problems with blind faith. But keep your minds open in case this proves; then you have to believe, believe in it. If you are honest people, you have to believe in it. Because it is for the benevolence of your individual self, for the benevolence of your city, your country and world at large. Most of the problems of this world come from human beings; humbly we must admit. There something wrong somewhere that we create problems. And these problems come to human beings when there is a problem with these centres here as explained to you. Now these centres do exist. These are energy centres within you. And when they are, (Mother speaks aside, Thank you, (Lawrence?) thank you, its cold, I don’t like, I like, just ordinary (glass of water)) these centres, when they go into jeopardy, we have this problem of human beings behaving in funny manners. When this power, which is within us, which Read More …

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Kundalini Gauri Puja Lake Road Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Shri Kundalini Gauri Puja. Melbourne (Australia), 16 February 1992. Come inside, you can, all of you can come inside, there is space. Every body, do space for these people, just move. This side.Don’t sit in the sun. [Shri Mataji is speaking in Hindi.] I’m sorry today I have to speak about something unpleasant to begin with, before the Puja. Later on we’ll have the Puja of the Kundalini, the Gauri. All right? The unpleasant things are – I’m sorry to say that about Melbourne- that it has been a very funny experience, in this place, Melbourne, and I really feel very sorry that I’ve brought this Elio to this country. He’s an uneducated, absolutely starving person in Portugal. And he had nothing to eat even. And I told you that I sent lots of ceramic, a truck load to them. They sold it and ate all the money. So that doesn’t matter. And then I paid for him to come here, he got here, married to a nice girl. But I think he was a bhoot from the very beginning, or I don’t know what to say. There is no sense of gratitude, no sense of self-esteem, he didn’t know what he was, and he became really, really a big bhoot, in the sense that he started playing in the hands of Satan.I didn’t know what was happening. He came down to Pratisthan and people said: “Mother, who is this rakshasa who has come?” And he came with Trish. You Read More …

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Informal talk Lake Road Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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INFORMAL TALK – 1991 04 13 – MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA Otherwise, they will not having so much authority because of this economic problem now [UNCLEAR]. As it is Ganesha’s country, I think it should start first here. This awakening among the media (?). Media (?) is the most difficult thing [UNCLEAR]. (Addressing a Yogi) You should get all the cuttings for me? In India, they don’t mind this – I mean at least at the time of the Congress [UNCLEAR]. They didn’t mind these gurus making money because they thought that it is for [UNCLEAR]. But how much [UNCLEAR]? I think you people sit inside, let them come in. Also you should sit with one leg at the way they here sit. Remy, he has now decided that we’ll have only one school that is Vashi. That’s a beautiful place and children will be there for about eight or nine months, in that school, because you see if they moved from one place to another, their attention is also spoiled. And they will go for holidays to Dharamsala, for three months. If the parents want so they can also pay for themselves and stay there, with their children. Otherwise, you see, also a Yogi said that he cannot accommodate for more than forty people and that’s you cannot put a limit to it. So we’ll be expecting about 300 students who can be easily accommodated as it is, and later on it could be about 600. It’s a large place, it’s Read More …

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What is a living energy? Royal Exhibition Building, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program Day 2. Royal Exhibition Building, Melbourne, Australia, 12 April 1991. I bow to all the seekers of truth. As I told you yesterday, that truth is what it is. We cannot understand it, you have to feel it. We cannot conceptualize it, and you cannot feel it also at this human awareness. We have to become a subtler being, as described in all the Scriptures, that you are to be born again and that you have to become the Spirit, to feel the existence of Truth. First thing, we have to understand, that all this is a process of a living energy. Divine is a living energy, and divinity within you also is a living energy. We do not understand sometimes what is a living energy. When we sow a seed in the ground, they sprout by themselves. When a mother conceives the child, according to the normal nature of human beings, their body has to expel everything that is foreign. But when the child is conceived, it is not only kept in the body but is nourished, looked after, developed, and at the right time it is expelled. There are so many other things which cannot be explained through medical science. But one must know that to understand what I am saying, you must have an open mind, like a scientist has. And if you find what I am saying, which is like a hypothesis, is true and gives you the experience of the truth, then as Read More …

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We cannot buy the truth Royal Exhibition Building, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program Day 1, Royal Exhibition Building, Melbourne, Australia, 11 April 1991. Please be seated. I think I’ll stand up and speak, would be better now. I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset we have to know that truth is what it is. We cannot conceptualize it, we cannot change it, we cannot buy it, and also unfortunately at this human level we cannot know it. The truth is that you are not this body, this mind, this intellect, this ego, these conditionings, but you are the pure spirit. The second truth is that there is a all-pervading Power of divine love, which is very subtle and which works out all the living work. You see all these beautiful flowers here, and we take them for granted. We never even think from where have they come, how have they come, from a one little seed how ” and so many varieties, so many types ” how they have been created and how they grow, and how a flower becomes a fruit. Look at ourselves; look at our eyes. It’s one of the greatest cameras you could think of. Look at every machinery that is within us, how it is working beautifully there. But we do not think about it; we take it for granted. All this living work is done by this all-pervading Power of divine love. Now when I say that, you need not accept it blindfolded. But I would request you to have Read More …

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Press Interview Melbourne (Australia)

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1991-0411 PRESS INTERVIEW, MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA Interviewer: Is this your first visit here? Shri Mataji: Oh no. Interviewer: No?  How many times have you been here before? Shri Mataji: Beg your pardon? Interviewer: How many times have you been here? Shri Mataji: I haven’t counted.  Must be how many times?  From 1974. Interviewer: Right. Shri Mataji: Practically every year.  Sometimes I missed one or twice. Interviewer: And what is the main emphasis in your teaching? Shri Mataji: To convey that within us lies a power which we call as Kundalini in the triangular bone and when awakened, it passes through six subtle centres through our spinal chord, our brain, ultimately into limbic area and pierces through the fontanel bone area which was the soft bone in our childhood.  This is the actualization of baptism, actualization.  And this power within us is the reflection of the Holy Ghost.  Thus you get your second birth, that’s how you are twice born. Interviewer: Oh I see. Shri Mataji: Yes, born again. Interviewer: And everyone has this? Shri Mataji: Beg your pardon? Interviewer: Everyone has this? Shri Mataji: Everyone everyone has. Interviewer: And how do people find it? Shri Mataji: I knew about it since my birth I think. Interviewer: And what about the people you teach? Shri Mataji: Beg your pardon? Interviewer: The people you teach, how can they find this power? Shri Mataji: (Unclear)  They feel themselves, the cool breeze on top of their heads.  And they feel they are connected with this power because they Read More …

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Virata Puja: Appreciation Should Be Practiced and Informal talk Lake Road Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Virata Puja. Melbourne (Australia), 10 April 1991 Because of distances and also we had no ashram in Melbourne all these days, I found that the collectivity is not yet properly woven here and so I think best thing is, today, we must worship the Viraat. Viraat is the Primordial Father you can say, or the One who is in our brain, acts for our collectivity. As the Kundalini rises ultimately She ends up by piercing through the fontanel bone area. Before entering into that She enters into the Sahasrara. Sahasrara is the area which is surrounded by one thousand nerves and in the medical terms it is called as ‘limbic area’. Now one thousand nerves are all connected to the sixteen important nerves of the Vishuddhi. That’s why they say that Shri Krishna had sixteen thousand wives, that is, He had all His powers as His wives and I have all my powers as my children. So, when we are growing in our ascent, in our dhyana, we have to go to our Sahasrara. If the Sahasrara was not opened out we could not have done this en masse realisation. How it is connected! The collectivity is so connected with the present-day Sahaja Yoga. Before that it was just up to the Agnya Chakra but when it reaches the Sahasrara it enlightens all the nerves, and all the nerves look like flames which are very silent, beautifully coloured, in all VIBGYOR colours.  The appearance of these is so soothing, so Read More …

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I will ask Mother for Yoga Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program Day 2. Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne, Australia. 7 March 1990. I bow to all the seekers of truth. This last song that you have heard was written by poet called Namdeva in the year 12th century. And it says that I will go and ask Mother for my yoga, for the union with the divine. For so many years this is a folk lore, people have been singing in the villages of Maharashtra, this song and has described so clearly what I will do when I will go and ask for my yoga. Jogwa is yoga and aayi means Mother in Marathi language. And he has very clearly described what I will be doing to achieve that yoga. I wish we had time more to explain to you the beauty of this song. And is sung everywhere in a village you go they all sing this song. So this was known to India since long that you have to achieve your yoga your union with the Divine. The modern yogas are just some sort of a wee part of something. That is really not yoga I would say. Like rajyoga these days, is practiced in a very wrong way where they are doing some sort of exercises which are not spontaneous. Like if you start your car with the ignition the car starts moving by itself and the machinery also moves with it spontaneously. You don’t have to do any exercise for that. In the same way when Read More …

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Address to Sahaja Yogis, about leaders Melbourne (Australia)

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Address to Sahaja Yogis, about leaders [UNCLEAR- ONE SHOULD THINK?] just she can’t have it, you know, under [UNCLEAR] Only thing is she should give it to God, you see, that’s the point is. [UNCLEAR] try. Hmm She’s much better now. Hmm, good – alright? What more? You are alright. [HINDI – Haan theek hai.] [MARATHI] Keep a candle for her on her left Swadishthana and the left hand towards the photograph, sit on the ground, say Atharvasheersha [MARATHI] and also raise her Kundalini with a candle – three candles to be used. One in front, one there and one to raise it, then she’ll be alright. [MARATHI] She’s really doing – so many people are [UNCLEAR] her family. Alright? [UNCLEAR] Yogi [LC?):Some newspaper, when You were not in Adelaide, suggested that I follow the path of journalisms. It’s quite typical, however, this year I found enrolled in the University degree. I’m doing half media studies and half computing and it felt very good but I can say that it’s going to be an enormous amount of work and thought best to ask You that this is really the correct direction to go in. – If you want, you can close down Adelaide for the time being. – Yes, Mother. – [MARATHI] – Hunh? [MARATHI] The rest of them can close it down and shift to Sydney or to Melbourne, to Perth. You are alright but they should also shift. It’s not that but, you see, a kind of a Read More …

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What have we to achieve by leading this human life? Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program Day 1, Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne, Australia, March, the 6th, 1990 [The music group “Nirmal Sangeet Sarita” is performing while Shri Mataji arrives at the program and asks them to sing “Namostute” along with Australian Sahaja Yogis. Shri Mataji gets up from her chair, stands near the mike and starts.] I bow to all the seekers of truth. So far, we have been seeking, so many other things. Some felt that by seeking money, we’ll achieve the ultimate joy and the freedom. And some felt that if you have the power, then, you will be the Lord of this universe. Some felt that if I could be just concerned about my limited family, about my children, it would be the most joyous thing. Ultimately, we discover, that all these are nothing but mental or emotional projections, which are linear in its movement. Also, we tried to find out about science, about music, about art. But anyone of them on one side of our mental or emotional projection make us absolutely one sided or we can say they put us into imbalances. And we can see the effects of that in modern times that people are having problems which we feel have no solutions for it and sort of, we are sometimes on the verge of shocks. As a result of that, people have taken to things which are very absurd and destructive, that has added to the problems that we have already. So let us find out the Read More …

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Music Program and Dance Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk Sahaja Yogi: This is the recording Shri Mataji  Shri Mataji: Alright… Sahaja Yogi: This is the broadcast microphone. Shri Mataji: It is such a joyful day today,  that we have now Sahaja yogis for Musicians [unclear/from India . ] They have come to this country of Shri Ganesha to meet you all and to sing to you the praise of Sahaja Yoga. On their behalf, I have to say something that they are very happy, eager to meet you all…Some people have never met before…I hope It will be convenient and [unclear].[lots of echoes]02:17 It was so beautifully planned by the divine that they are here. And I am sure you are going to enjoy their music very much. May God bless you! And everybody should thank them.  [unclear] [Performance of various artists ] (Chapter: Talk end of the evening ) Sahaja Yogi : [unclear] Shri Mataji: There is a present for her dancing … [Artist took the present from Mother ] All of you & now feel the collectivity in dancing …And all my cells were dancing when you were dancing inside …So you are like the part and parcel of the whole. And you must get back to that awareness. Collective Consciousness…I hope it will be completely established within my stay in Australia. May God bless you all…

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Interview With Greek Journalist And Talk With Sahaja Yogis Greg and Cheryl Bradshaw's house, Melbourne (Australia)

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Interview with a Greek Journalist, at Greg and Cheryl Bradshaw’s house, Melbourne (Australia), March 4th, 1990 Shri Mataji: What lotuses! Very surprising! Interviewer: I’ve heard that You’ve been brought up in some of – I’m a Greek descendant myself, I was born, my life birth [unsure] in an island in the Aegean Sea. And I’ve heard that You’ve been to Greece. Shri Mataji: Oh, Greece is tremendous! Tremendous people, Greeks. You see, they’re very traditional. They’re very traditional people and they understand this, you see, and you had such great philosophers like Socrates. So, I mean, is all in-built within them absolutely and they’re very subtle people also. They understand serenity. I mean, in the whole of Europe I never heard this word anywhere except in Greece, the word serenity. And it’s beautiful. Interviewer: Could you tell me what’s the record of your philosophy? Shri Mataji: All right. The, you see, the philosophy is actually the practical side of it. Whatever has been the philosophy so far that you have to know yourself: ‘Know Thyself. Also Socrates said the same thing and Christ said the same thing, that you are to be born again. All the scriptures, all the saints have said, ‘You are to be born again’ or ‘You have to know yourself.’ Now how to do it? You see, how to achieve it was the problem which now is being solved. Not only that is solved for one person but solved for many because you can do it Read More …

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Airport Arrival & Talk to Sahaja Yogis: For our ascent is very important to be collective Melbourne Airport, Melbourne (Australia)

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Informal Talk to Sahaja Yogis. Melbourne (Australia), 4 March 1990. Very happy to be back here in Melbourne, after such a long gap, and everybody’s grown up so much; nice to see you all so healthy, beautiful and joyous. Of course I feel sad about the ashram that we have lost, that we should not have lost the ashram. But whatever has happened you can’t help it; but it’s important for Sahaja Yoga that we have to live together. I also told the same thing in Perth, that try to get a big place, because you know your children are there, and you all are there, and if you are together, negativity runs away. It has such a tremendous force, an ashram has a tremendous force. When you live together, you help each other, you understand each other, you know so many things, you learn so many things from each other and, it could be done very easily, once you start enjoying the collectivity. Human being is a social being. He is not a person who wants to live in a – single way. That’s why if you jail someone, if somebody’s in jail, it becomes a punishment. Though in the jail you have all the conveniences, everything is there, on the contrary you don’t have to work so hard, you get your food all right, everything is fine, somebody cooks for you. But it’s a punishment. And for our ascent is very important to be collective. It’s said that Read More …

Talk To Sahaja Yogis Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk To Sahaja Yogis, Melbourne (Australia), May 18th, 1987 But we could set out certain things in this short time, I think that was a good idea. And he told me that there were 70 people who came for the follow on. I thought now that more people will be coming down here. And the person who is the owner of this house is creating a problem for us. He cannot do it under law. He cannot do that. So, in case he doesn’t listen, we should put some law upon him, and we must see that you don’t have to pay more and we keep the backside of it [unsure]. So, that can be done. [Despite] lots of difficulties, we must keep the house. Because we’ll get more people from this new group and we have to attend to them also. So, some people can shift to the other house, which has got four bedrooms and some people can, very nicely, live here. So, we can have both the places. And one should not vacate this house. He has no business to increase the rent and he has no business to take back the house. I’ve also suggested that we should have the pre-school going on and they should not be stopped. Plus, we should also have a creche in this hall, you can have a creche [from 2,8 to 5 years old]. So, many mothers who go for work or who go for – say, some sort of Read More …

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Sharing an endless Biscuit with children Melbourne Airport, Melbourne (Australia)

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Arrival at airport, Melbourne (Australia), May 18th, 1987 It’s really the small ones. You are small or big? Let’s see, you stand up. Let’s see how big you are. Left Nabhi .Fighting the world out![Laughter]Bring them to the airport and they must be thinking, “What to do with this and what to do with that?”[Laughter]Once, we went to the airport with my granddaughter, and very small, to the [unclear]. Pulling this side. I said, “What are you doing?” She said, “In this airport, everybody seems to be mad. I’m trying to tie them up properly”. Going on like this, very fast, to tie them up. I beg your pardon? What does she say?Sahaja Yogi: She said she’s got a ribbon.Shri Mataji: Oh! I see. That’s a good one. And you are wearing a very beautiful necklace also. That’s a beautiful one. Yes, that’s very beautiful, isn’t it? You all should have one. I’ll have to send some.When you go to India, you can pick up something nice for them also. And you get lots of things for children in India, quite cheap and quite nice. That’s it. I can see that. That’s really good. For me? [the little child gives a biscuit to Shri Mataji] All right. With the hand, now you have it. Woah! Also, have some more. Thank you.Good!Baby: Nana.Shri Mataji: Nana. She is Nana? All right. So, for Nana, what do you want to give her? Nana. What do you want to give her? Nana.Baby: Kumkum.Shri Mataji: Read More …

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Talk and Departure Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk and Departure Melbourne (Australia) Thursday, May 14th, 1987 Shri Mataji: Thing, he was telling me that they haven’t yet given any permission, I don’t know what are they doing about it, I don’t know what’s all the things going on but you are coming back to England now? Is she here? [UNCLEAR Enn] Sahaja Yogi: She is in Sydney Mother. Shri Mataji: She is in Sydney. I wanted to talk to her about it, so I will talk to her in. I thought she is here in the crowd. So better tell her about and because that’s another problem you have to solve. Now, anything else I have to talk to you. Anybody else in particular? Who else? Because James has mentioned all these things to me. Yes, yes Sahaja Yogi: [UNCLEAR Mr Engie] the guy has suggested Mother to ask you a Shri Mataji: Really? She has agreed Sahaja Yogi: Well it seems so Shri Mataji: Aww, she is tremendous. [UNCLEAR Engie] is such a sweet fellow, very beautiful and he has that pure intelligence as you call it. He could see very clearly that Sahaja Yoga is the way and he stuck on to it and he has a friend through whom he has come because he was Bala’s friend too, but his wife is English and this English girls always puts him down somehow or the other. So, he is not such a fast mover but Engie is and I am very happy that you have Read More …

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Interview for ‘The Age’ Newspaper Melbourne (Australia)

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1987-05-13 Interview with Newspaper ‘ ‘The Age’ Melbourne NITL HD Interviewer: Have you had a chance to look around, or everyone looking at you only, all the time? Shri Mataji: (Laughing)No I have been looking around also and I went round to see places, but I have been to Australia before, four years so I have seen it quite a lot. Interviewer: What are your impressions? Shri Mataji: Ah, it’s a.. Australia has great potential I think and as far as the country’s abroad are concerned, I think they can give a very big lead spiritually, to the whole world. Interviewer: Nice to think (UNCLEAR) other countries, spiritually (UNCLEAR)  spiritual countries, (UNCLEAR) materialistic culture.Why do you say it could give  spiritual lead? Shri Mataji: You see you may think that way, but basically, we have built up that within yourselves I think.’Spiritual potential’. Interviewer: I noticed in one of the interviews which was in the media I think it was an American journalist, interviewing YOU and YOU say that Australia is like the lowest chakra in the body. I have forgotten what it was called. Shri Mataji: Yes, yes.Mooladhara. Interviewer: Where is this chakra placed? Shri Mataji: This chakra is placed below the Coccyx and.. Interviewer: Where is that? Shri Mataji: Coccyx is a triangular bone. That is at the end of the spinal cord. Interviewer: Right. Could you explain what you mean by Australian could be like..? Shri Mataji: That is the first centre created.Before the creation started this Read More …

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You have to achieve the Absolute Freedom Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program Day 2. Melbourne (Australia), 13 May 1987. I bow to all the seekers of truth. Yesterday I told you what is the truth and that is what we are seeking today. In all our seeking we may run after the mirage of money, of power, of friendship, of carnal love but ultimately we have to know, that we are running after the truth that is the Spirit. Yesterday I explained to you how the truth manifests itself through your finger-tips and you can find out about any disease or any trouble that is within you and without. Only thing you have to know how to work it out. When the realization takes place, we have to know that a complete integration within take place. That is your physical, emotional, mental and spiritual being become completely integrated. For example, you think, you should start some sort of a work. That is what your mind tells you but your heart tells you, “No, no, no, we should not do it.” Then physical being says, “No, no, no, you’re very tired, how can you do it?” And the spiritual being can say that, “I just don’t know what is to be done.” But when you get your realization, you become very intense, very positive and concentrate your mind very clearly on what is to be done. Supposing, you have been doing something very wrong all your life and you had no courage to get out of it, after realization you become Read More …

Conversation Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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TRANSCRIPT OF CONVERSATION AT KEW ASHRAM MELBOURNE, 1987-0512 Shri Mataji: Really? Sahaja Yogi: Can’t… can’t focus Yes. Shri Mataji: The whole mind is conditioned. Australian Sahaja Yogi 1: I mean, absolutely. It is like a record. Like a gramophone record going round. Shri Mataji: Yes. I have seen this in China when, I went there when Mao was there. See, the girl used to tell us anything as if it was a record – she was just saying it, without even thinking about it. See then I felt that this is some sort of a possession this girl has got. But now, of course, Chinese have got their freedom and they are much better people, I mean they’re not that kind. But in the beginning, they did that like that in China and this is how they just conditioned them. But all our theological colleges, all these people are the same. They are just trying to find out how to condition people. I mean, if they give all their business and just take to God, they will be so very much happier. And all this effort will be lost. Very serious things. You see, for Christian community especially I think, it is that because of these barriers, they may never reach God. It’s all right for Christians in the West because they have seen the nonsense of it, most of them.  But in the countries like ours, you see which are developing, for them Christianity being so sophisticated, so good Read More …

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Interview Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Interview with Shri Mataji, Melbourne, Australia, 12-05-1987 Interviewer: Thank you for the invitation. This is an interview with Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on the 12th of May, 1987. Interview begins 5 seconds from now.  Interviewer: Shri Mataji, we’ve been told that there were three thousand people at your program in Sydney and the hundreds rushed forward after the program to speak to You and to shake You by the hand. This is a very unusual thing in Australia. Why do you think this happened? Shri Mataji: I think there were not three thousand, maybe less, because the whole didn’t counting many people. But there were quite a lot, about two thousand. And they did rush to thank Me and their eyes were glancing with light and their faces were looking very enlightened and happy, joyous. Because this is the greatest thing that can happen to human beings. In many ages it happens: the rebirth of a person. And they felt the rebirth within themselves. The peace within themselves and the cool breath coming out of their own heads and all that convinced them and that’s why they just came to thank Me. Out of gratitude, I think. Interviewer: With your respect, Shri Mataji, the world is full of people promising the millennium. One by one they becoming exposed as charlatans, tricks us. How can we know when we have been deluded? Shri Mataji: I have been telling from 1981, in Australia, I visited four times before; every year openly telling Read More …

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The Purpose is to know the Truth Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program Day 1. Melbourne (Australia) 12 May 1987. I bow to all the seekers of truth. You are all here to seek the truth. One has to realize that truth is what it is. We have to know the truth; Truth does not have to know us. And the truth lies within us, within our being and the instrument of knowing the truth is what he has described it to you today. Now if you have got your eyes, you can see clearly that this is a white color. You don’t have to pay to your eyes for that – that’s a truth. You all see the same thing. If you are passing through a dirty lane, it’s obnoxious and you know it’s a dirty lane you’re passing through. But a dog does not know the truth, a horse does not know. They can all pass through that without feeling anything about it. So you are at a higher level than all the animals put together, all the living things that you see, you are at a higher place. So, what is the purpose of our being human-beings. The only purpose is to know the truth. Many people say that truth is love and love is truth. People don’t understand. At human level it’s a very illusive, deceiving sentence. Maybe, love may not be the truth, truth may not be love. But when they say truth is love, they mean to say that the All- Pervading power of God’e Read More …

Address to Leaders Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Address to Leaders. Melbourne (Australia), 18 March 1985. Shri Mataji: Better teach them how to manage this. But we have experienced now your wife should not be in charge. No woman should be in charge. If you want an assistance take another gentleman but not any woman whatsoever. While I think they don’t understand. If they go in administration they go off their heads. So best is to have another assistant, if you want somebody, ask your leader here or someone and then arrange. Have somebody to assist you. But, be careful, always be careful that he does not become dominant and does not try to spoil the scope. Take always all opportunities to create joyous moments. Like say this people have come, the young people have come married, should ask them to go out and have some nice time and give them some nice time, or something. All the joyous moments must be an advantage for the people to feel happier. You see this must be done. And now, those who are married now also you must say that you are married, you see that you build up the atmosphere so that they feel the importance of marriage. I think that is not in the west but we have it. You all the times say the ripples which you see to please them, do this, do that, and then they see and then they build it up within their hearts, but that’s not here, no interest. You show interest Read More …

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis: I depend on you very much Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk To Sahaja Yogis: I Depend On You Very Much Farewell Talk. Melbourne (Australia), 18 March 1985. Shri Mataji: There are some children to be blessed.Sahaja Yogi: Any of the children yet to be blessed.Shri Mataji: Those who are to be named. There are three, four children?Sahaja Yogi: It could be.Shri Mataji: Ah, this one. Hello, what’s his name?Sahaja Yogini: Shane.Shri Mataji: Shane. Call him Prashant alright? Prashant is a good name, meaning the peace that is being enlightened. Alright?Sahaja Yogini: Thank you, Shri Mataji.Shri Mataji: Good. May God bless you. He’s happy, he likes it. You like it? You like it that way? The heat is coming out. Yes, it’s good. You must massage your children, always, alright? Heat is coming out. May God bless you. Sahaja Yogi: Now, Caroline’s children are in Sydney. You probably remember them.Shri Mataji: Yes.Sahaja Yogi: From Sydney. They have been called Gabriel and Michael. Is that what you’d like or would you like to give another name?Shri Mataji: I mean, you can call them by Hanumana and- you can call them by Indian names also.Sahaja Yogi: Bhairava and Hanumana.Shri Mataji: Bhairava and Hanumana. It’s a good idea.[Laughter][Applause] Shri Mataji: What’s her name?Sahaja Yogini: Anna.Shri Mataji: Anna.Anna, now. You can call her as Amruta. Amruta means eternal. Nice name Amruta? May God bless you.[Applause] Sahaja Yogi: It is Steven’s daughter.Shri Mataji: Ah, yes.Sahaja Yogini: His name is Nicola.Shri Mataji: Nika?Sahaja Yogi: Nicola.Shri Mataji: Nicola.Let Me see her. So, we’ll call him Niranjana, it’s a good name. Niranjana, it’s a Goddess’s name. Alright. They all look like Me, somehow.[Laughter][Applause][…] Shri Mataji: So, whats your name? Sahaja Yogi: Timothy. Shri Mataji: Timothy. From ‘ta’, there are very few good names, I think. I will give it from something else, then. Kabira is a nice name. Sahaja Read More …

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Kundalini is the pure form Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program Day 3 and Workshop 1985-03-17 Melbourne, Australia Warren: [UNCLEAR] has really nothing to do with ultimately the process of Self-realization. It is a manifestation and it is that to tell our egos shut up. That’s the end of it. We needed some physical manifestation in our central nervous system consciously, to know that the process has started, so that, this rational thinking, mechanic, mechanistic brain would start to quieten down – start to quieten down. And then the process of continuing to quieten down, takes place. And when it continues to quieten down more and more of the vibrations can be taken in, more and more of these chakras can open, more and more of the Kundalini can rise and so the whole thing becomes a beautifully expanding process of awareness and so you start to feel more of the silence. Your thoughts don’t dominate you completely as much as they used to. You find that your awareness of yourself and of others changes. You find that the illnesses that you had often miraculously get better overnight. Others, which have been chronic in their onset, take time to be dissolved and to be neutralized. But, whatever it is, it works out. So, tonight I want to start with the Mooladhara Chakra and work up and just show you a little bit of the practicality that is involved in Sahaja Yoga. We have seven centers. They are made of five elements so combinations of those elements and in Sahaja Read More …

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Birthday Puja: Our maryadas Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Birthday Puja. Melbourne (Australia), 17 March 1985. I am very joyous today to see all of you celebrating my birthday as well as having the national programme same day. It’s a good combination we have in the month of March. It’s regarded as springtime in India – madhumas (मधुमास). That’s what you sing, madhumas. And as you know 21st March is the equinox, so it is a balance and also the centre of all the signs you have in the horoscope. So many centres I had to achieve and also I was born on the Tropic of Cancer as you are on the Tropic of Capricorn, and Ayers Rock is on the Tropic of Capricorn – just in the centre. So, so many combinations had to be worked out. So the principle of ascent is to be in the centre, to be in the balance, to be in the maryadas of the centre, to be in the boundaries of the centre, is the principle. So what happens when we do not keep to the boundaries, to the maryadas? Then we get caught up. If we keep to maryadas we can never be caught up. Many people say, “Why have the maryadas?” Say we have the maryada, the boundaries of this beautiful ashram here and somebody is attacking you from all the sides, on all the sides of the void, so if you go out of the void you get caught up. That’s why you have to keep to the boundaries. Read More …

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Evening Program with Conversation After Marriages Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk After Marriages in Kew Ashram. Melbourne (Australia), 16 March 1985. SRI MATAJI: Beautiful, beautiful, is really. It comes from the heart. The whole tune, everything so beautiful. Beautiful, absolutely. Is all the description, isn’t it? I don’t know what has happened to Christians now, where have they gone. Singing all these songs, feel so lost with them. It’s rather heavy, better take it out here. DR. WARREN: No, no, I want to show you… PETER COX: We wanted to show you Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji: What? WARREN: something special. Shri Mataji: Ah ha. How did you get it that way, uh? Beautiful, Oh that’s fine really. Very beautiful. Yes, may God bless you. It’s beautiful. WARREN: Ray went to all these little details. Shri Mataji: I tell you, Ray is the limit. I don’t know how he managed, really. And these little, little photographs we get, and all such problems there. RAY: Peter, are you going to do “Awake, Awake”? Shri Mataji: Hmm? PETER: We’re going to do just the song without the poem. This is the next one, Shri Mataji (handing sheet). CHOIR SING: “POLORUM REGINA” Shri Mataji: Really, they are based on Indian melodies, something like that. Very much is it. And in our, also in our, ah, villages and all that, specially in the Bengal side they have songs made like this, you see, in the -what you call – in the villages, people sing, you see, with this kind, but this very difficult to sing Read More …

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Marriages Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Marriages in Kew Ashram. Melbourne (Australia), 16 March 1985. Shri Mataji: … ask all of them to stand at the back so all the people have to stand at the back so the girls can stand up. And bring their garlands and you have to … one garland to the boy. [too much background noise to hear Shri Mataji] They should all stand up and move back. All of you will have to stand this side. All right. Should we ask them to get up now Warren? Have you given them numbers or something? Make them stand in that way … They are standing now better stand … way. Now, yes. We have to start. Get the garlands. This light has to be brought in here. I’ve not seen … shining before I think. May God bless you. No, no, the children have to be in front of them, with the flowers in the hand. Can you break off the petals for the children in their hand? Warren, you have to take the flower petals for them, for the children. In the hand … like this you make and give to the children. The boys have come, or not? They should come now. Warren, I think the girls better stand there because the boys will come here now. Can they come that way? Let the girls stand this side. Now you take your lights this side, I’m sorry to say. Is better. Take the lights on this side. All right. Read More …

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Where are religions leading? Royal Exhibition Building, Melbourne (Australia)

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Second Public Program, Melbourne (Australia), 15 March 1985. I bow to all the seekers of truth. Everyone has been talking about truth; since long we have been hearing that we have to find out the truth, and there has been a evolutionary process even in our spiritual seeking. As you must have seen how gradually we are built up and how the divine personalities came on this earth to give us a new awareness, a new dimension, a new understanding of ourselves within. All this evolved slowly one after another, outside as well as inside; but what we see outside is something frightens people. They see a person like Khomeini, they see a person like Idi Amin, then Gadaffi – they’re quite shocked. They think these fundamentalists are there, they can’t understand how these people can carry on with that kind of a fundamental idea in their head – that they are the best and they have a right to proclaim as if Mohammed Sahib was in their pocket. But is true of every religion – they are very close, they are not sophisticated so we do not see their fanaticism, we can see this fanaticism but those who are so sophisticated, like I was born in a Protestant religion; I found they were extremely sophisticated and no escape was left for any seeker to come out of it – because only thing was to dress up nicely, go on a Sunday, attend a meeting and finished – pay for Read More …

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Talk to Sahaja yogis before Marriages Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk Before Marriages, Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia), 15 March 1985. Tomorrow we have decided to have the weddings in the evening time so, there are, how many people are getting married? Can you give Me the list of people? Yes. So many people are getting married. Now tomorrow, as the time is very short, as we have, they’ll be arriving tomorrow morning and they’ll be all be sleeping off, all the brides and bridegrooms, and I don’t know… Nine of you, so there are still seven coming. All right, how many girls, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, where’s the ninth? Who? Sydney, all right. So we have nine. So what I’m saying, that you have to have, choose your own, one man has to have one brother, younger, one of the younger boys, you can have one little boy as the brother or one unmarried man. Then you have to have girls who are flower girls. All right. Then you have to have one, uncle, of yours, some uncle has to be there. So this is the relation we need, is for girls to have father and mother and the boy to have either a uncle or mother, one of the two. All right. Do you follow that point? So out of you nine at least you decide now, who will you have, and the boys, little boys will be the brothers of the wife, so you select brothers of the wife, and the girls will be Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk to Yogis, Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia), 14 March 1985. Late night, after public program. This is the best you can give to your friends, instead of giving them parties, dinners. That’s how you become permanent friends. So the children are enjoying themselves preparing the next occasion. Going to sit down with Modi today, and finalize the marriage program. All right? So I would like to have the names of the people who are getting married. Ah. And I hope, they have everything all right. Because I will have to check up on these things, isn’t it? Because day after tomorrow will be a puja and then we’ll have to prepare for the weddings, that is on Sunday. Puja will be in the evening? What we can do if you want to have a sort of a follow-up program, we can have it on in the morning time. Yogi: But Mother it will be too much for you. No, I’ll be out only for one hour at the most. That’s you see because I think the contacts are lost. If you don’t say I’m there, I’m not there, then they don’t come. So best is to have one day. I’ll just come for an hour outside that’s all. Keep it like that, we’ll manage somehow. Yes, last time did we cook? So many, we cannot. So they should be left out. See they should come here at the time about say ten o’clock and leave about twelve o’clock, so they Read More …

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We are living in a relative world Royal Exhibition Building, Melbourne (Australia)

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First Public Program, Melbourne (Australia), 14 March 1985. I bow to all the seekers of truth.I bow to them because they are a special category of human beings which is described by William Blake * as the men of God who will become prophets and they will have powers to make others prophets. This is what is described by many other seers in India also. All over the world people have talked about the resurrection time. Mohammed Sahib in His Koran has described that at the time of resurrection your hands will speak. Like when the disciples of Christ got their blessings of Self realization from the Holy Ghost which came as a cool breeze upon Him they started using their hands because they felt the power flowing through them and they started speaking the language which was strange. That was the language of the chakras and that’s why people thought they were off their minds, they didn’t understand. But today we are in a special time which I call as the blossom time. We do not have only twelve people who are seeking, twelve hundred who are seeking, but thousands and thousands, millions and millions. This seeking has come to us from ages, we have been seekers from ages, though in the western contries the tradition of seeking has lost its meaning very much because of industralisation. It has grown like a tree which does not know about its roots. In India the climate was very gentle, I think, Read More …

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Radio Interview Melbourne (Australia)

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Interview Interviewer: Right we’re going to talk about a kind of yoga, Sahaja Yoga if I’ve pronounced it correctly. And we’re going to talk to a lady called Shri Mataji. Hope I’ve got that right too. Sahaja Yoga is now a recognised religion and it’s catching on at a great rate here in Australia. In fact, the religion has just been granted permission to open a school here in Victoria and that school is situated at Kew. It’s been established to comply with the extremely high moral and educational standards set by Shri Mataji. The basic objective of this school is to instil non-aggression peace and harmony here. Here, I think we all agree with that. Shri Mataji is in Australia for a whistle-stop tour and She’s a brief visit us here in Mulba (?) Studio. And we’ll have to put those headphones on because I forgot it’s got the microphone attached to it. So, if you don’t put those on, we won’t be able to hear you. So, if you just hold that up there and speak into it, I think we would be able to hear you okay. Welcome to Australia first of all. Shri Mataji: Thank you very much. Interviewer: Actually you’ve just stepped off the plane, I believe. Shri Mataji: Yes, (?) Interviewer: Are you suffering from jetlag? Shri Mataji: No, no. I don’t much (?) Interviewer: How do you avoid things like jetlag? Shri Mataji: I think if you are at a state where you Read More …

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Practice of Sahaja Yoga is more important than precept Melbourne (Australia)

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Conversation with yogis. Melbourne (Australia), 13 March 1983. Warren: They are just asking questions, Mother. Shri Mataji: What kind? Warren: Just practical. Shri Mataji: Practical? That’s good, practical questions are very good. Warren: Would you like to talk to them for a while? Shri Mataji: First I talk to them and then ask the questions. I am overjoyed to see you all here. Actually the whole night I was working on Melbourne seekers, that they should come today and should establish their realisation very well. Now we have to understand a few things about Sahaja Yoga very clearly and there is no compromise on these few things that we have to accept. Because, as I told you, Truth cannot compromise for you, you have to compromise for Truth. So the first is that Sahaja Yoga is not just a precept, is not just a precept: it is practice. It is not just a mental idea. Now you got realisation, all right, but it is not sufficient. Even if you think that you got realisation so, now, you are all right, you become the Spirit, all right; but still, it is more a mental conception than a real identification.So it is not that if you get your realisation, and you start the awakening of your Kundalini, starts very well. Still, it is to be understood that it is the practice of Sahaja Yoga which is more important than the precept of it.There are many people in India who can’t read or Read More …

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Sea Puja Shoreham Beach, Melbourne (Australia)

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Unique Sea Puja on the beach. Melbourne (Australia), 12 March 1983. Salutations to him who is All pravading Salutations to him who is the support of all the being Salutations to him who is pure and innocent Salutations to him who is the self of all Being Salutations to him who is the causes growth of Being Salutations to him who’s nature is purity Salutations to him who is the supremself Salutations to him who is the highest of those who has attained..[UNCLEAR]… Salutations to him who is unattainable Salutations to him who is the…[UNCLEAR]… Salutations to him who is the direct witness of the All Salutations to him who is the self growing in the body Salutations to him who is the imperishable and all pravading point Salutations to him who is the realize for the union for the individual self and the Supreme-self Salutations to him who is the conducts the seekers of growth and prosperity…[UNCLEAR]… Salutations to him who is the primal substence of the universe as well as the individual self and the ruler of this two Salutations to him who is manifest him self through man-lion body Salutations to him who is the inseparately deviated conditioning Salutations to him who is who has lovely hair Salutations to him who is the most Empire among Beings Salutations to the All, being the cause of the All Salutations to the destroyer of the sins Salutations to the…[UNCLEAR]… Salutations to the unshakeable…[UNCLEAR]… Salutations to him who is comfortable Read More …

Talkback Radio Interview 3UZ Melbourne (Australia)

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Talkback Radio Interview 3UZ, Mebourne (Australia), 10 March 1983. 3UZ TALKBACK RADIO with Barry Everingham (first quarter of an hour was not recorded) BE: Thank you George. Joan? Is Joan on the line. J: Yes.BE: Now you want to speak to the Mataji about the curing of alopecia?J: Yes I do.BE: We’ll, we’d better explain to the listeners what it is: it’s the falling out of hair in clumps. It’s not baldness.J: Well yes that’s…BE: Is that right?J: It’s areas of baldness.BE: Areas of baldness? In men and women? J: Yes.BE: Are you a sufferer of it?J: Yes I am.BE: Well here’s the Mataji now Joan. Shri Mataji: Hello. See there was one gentleman from Australia who had the same problem. He was cured. And you can come along and get your realisation. After realisation it will all work out. All right? J: What do I have to do? Shri Mataji: Nothing. You just come along and see me. J: Do I have to bring something along or come? Shri Mataji: Just come and see Me. J: Where was it again? BE: Now tomorrow night Joan, it’s at the Exhibition Building, do you know that, in Nicholson Street, Carlton. J: Yes. BE: At 7 o’clock.J: It’s a very big building. BE: Well whereabouts is the… Shri Mataji: It’s the main hall. BE: It’s the main hall. J: The main hall? BE: Yes. J: Yes. BE: That’s at seven o’clock tomorrow night. J: And there was a Sunday one? BE: Yes Read More …

Radio Interview 3DB Melbourne (Australia)

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Radio Interview 3DB, Melbourne (Australia), 10 March 1983. Q: … Right now. Actually to be more specific, She’s in the studio with me right now … Shri Mataji and we’re going to talk to her. Good morning. Shri Mataji: Good morning. Q: How do I address you, do I call you. Shri Mataji: Mother, you can call it, it is better to call Me Mother. Q: All right thank you, Mother. Mother, now you are India’s living saint, do I stand or do I sit, or … Shri Mataji: Yes that’s what they say Q: India’s greatest living saint, and founder of the worldwide Sahaja Yoga. Mostly when we think of spiritual leaders, we think of men, but, quite obviously you’re a woman. Shri Mataji: Yes I am. I think this work can only be done by the Motherly love and compassion and patience, and men can’t have that much patience. I think a Mother was more needed at this time. Q: Men don’t have patience, Shri Mataji? Shri Mataji: I think so, women have more patience, specially Indian women are known for their patience. I don’t know about the women here. If they are copying men then they may not be also having equal patience. Q: What makes Indian women so special where patience is concerned? Shri Mataji: They are brought up that way. They are told that you have to be the bearing power, you have to be like the Mother Earth, so they develop that from their Read More …