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Conversation Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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TRANSCRIPT OF CONVERSATION AT KEW ASHRAM MELBOURNE, 1987-0512 Shri Mataji: Really? Sahaja Yogi: Can’t… can’t focus Yes. Shri Mataji: The whole mind is conditioned. Australian Sahaja Yogi 1: I mean, absolutely. It is like a record. Like a gramophone record going round. Shri Mataji: Yes. I have seen this in China when, I went there when Mao was there. See, the girl used to tell us anything as if it was a record – she was just saying it, without even thinking about it. See then I felt that this is some sort of a possession this girl has got. But now, of course, Chinese have got their freedom and they are much better people, I mean they’re not that kind. But in the beginning, they did that like that in China and this is how they just conditioned them. But all our theological colleges, all these people are the same. They are just trying to find out how to condition people. I mean, if they give all their business and just take to God, they will be so very much happier. And all this effort will be lost. Very serious things. You see, for Christian community especially I think, it is that because of these barriers, they may never reach God. It’s all right for Christians in the West because they have seen the nonsense of it, most of them.  But in the countries like ours, you see which are developing, for them Christianity being so sophisticated, so good Read More …

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Interview Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Interview with Shri Mataji, Melbourne, Australia, 12-05-1987 Interviewer: Thank you for the invitation. This is an interview with Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on the 12th of May, 1987. Interview begins 5 seconds from now.  Interviewer: Shri Mataji, we’ve been told that there were three thousand people at your program in Sydney and the hundreds rushed forward after the program to speak to You and to shake You by the hand. This is a very unusual thing in Australia. Why do you think this happened? Shri Mataji: I think there were not three thousand, maybe less, because the whole didn’t counting many people. But there were quite a lot, about two thousand. And they did rush to thank Me and their eyes were glancing with light and their faces were looking very enlightened and happy, joyous. Because this is the greatest thing that can happen to human beings. In many ages it happens: the rebirth of a person. And they felt the rebirth within themselves. The peace within themselves and the cool breath coming out of their own heads and all that convinced them and that’s why they just came to thank Me. Out of gratitude, I think. Interviewer: With your respect, Shri Mataji, the world is full of people promising the millennium. One by one they becoming exposed as charlatans, tricks us. How can we know when we have been deluded? Shri Mataji: I have been telling from 1981, in Australia, I visited four times before; every year openly telling Read More …

Address to Leaders Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Address to Leaders. Melbourne (Australia), 18 March 1985. Shri Mataji: Better teach them how to manage this. But we have experienced now your wife should not be in charge. No woman should be in charge. If you want an assistance take another gentleman but not any woman whatsoever. While I think they don’t understand. If they go in administration they go off their heads. So best is to have another assistant, if you want somebody, ask your leader here or someone and then arrange. Have somebody to assist you. But, be careful, always be careful that he does not become dominant and does not try to spoil the scope. Take always all opportunities to create joyous moments. Like say this people have come, the young people have come married, should ask them to go out and have some nice time and give them some nice time, or something. All the joyous moments must be an advantage for the people to feel happier. You see this must be done. And now, those who are married now also you must say that you are married, you see that you build up the atmosphere so that they feel the importance of marriage. I think that is not in the west but we have it. You all the times say the ripples which you see to please them, do this, do that, and then they see and then they build it up within their hearts, but that’s not here, no interest. You show interest Read More …

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis: I depend on you very much Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk To Sahaja Yogis: I Depend On You Very Much Farewell Talk. Melbourne (Australia), 18 March 1985. Shri Mataji: There are some children to be blessed.Sahaja Yogi: Any of the children yet to be blessed.Shri Mataji: Those who are to be named. There are three, four children?Sahaja Yogi: It could be.Shri Mataji: Ah, this one. Hello, what’s his name?Sahaja Yogini: Shane.Shri Mataji: Shane. Call him Prashant alright? Prashant is a good name, meaning the peace that is being enlightened. Alright?Sahaja Yogini: Thank you, Shri Mataji.Shri Mataji: Good. May God bless you. He’s happy, he likes it. You like it? You like it that way? The heat is coming out. Yes, it’s good. You must massage your children, always, alright? Heat is coming out. May God bless you. Sahaja Yogi: Now, Caroline’s children are in Sydney. You probably remember them.Shri Mataji: Yes.Sahaja Yogi: From Sydney. They have been called Gabriel and Michael. Is that what you’d like or would you like to give another name?Shri Mataji: I mean, you can call them by Hanumana and- you can call them by Indian names also.Sahaja Yogi: Bhairava and Hanumana.Shri Mataji: Bhairava and Hanumana. It’s a good idea.[Laughter][Applause] Shri Mataji: What’s her name?Sahaja Yogini: Anna.Shri Mataji: Anna.Anna, now. You can call her as Amruta. Amruta means eternal. Nice name Amruta? May God bless you.[Applause] Sahaja Yogi: It is Steven’s daughter.Shri Mataji: Ah, yes.Sahaja Yogini: His name is Nicola.Shri Mataji: Nika?Sahaja Yogi: Nicola.Shri Mataji: Nicola.Let Me see her. So, we’ll call him Niranjana, it’s a good name. Niranjana, it’s a Goddess’s name. Alright. They all look like Me, somehow.[Laughter][Applause][…] Shri Mataji: So, whats your name? Sahaja Yogi: Timothy. Shri Mataji: Timothy. From ‘ta’, there are very few good names, I think. I will give it from something else, then. Kabira is a nice name. Sahaja Read More …

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Kundalini is the pure form Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program Day 3 and Workshop 1985-03-17 Melbourne, Australia Warren: [UNCLEAR] has really nothing to do with ultimately the process of Self-realization. It is a manifestation and it is that to tell our egos shut up. That’s the end of it. We needed some physical manifestation in our central nervous system consciously, to know that the process has started, so that, this rational thinking, mechanic, mechanistic brain would start to quieten down – start to quieten down. And then the process of continuing to quieten down, takes place. And when it continues to quieten down more and more of the vibrations can be taken in, more and more of these chakras can open, more and more of the Kundalini can rise and so the whole thing becomes a beautifully expanding process of awareness and so you start to feel more of the silence. Your thoughts don’t dominate you completely as much as they used to. You find that your awareness of yourself and of others changes. You find that the illnesses that you had often miraculously get better overnight. Others, which have been chronic in their onset, take time to be dissolved and to be neutralized. But, whatever it is, it works out. So, tonight I want to start with the Muladhara Chakra and work up and just show you a little bit of the practicality that is involved in Sahaja Yoga. We have seven centers. They are made of five elements so combinations of those elements and in Sahaja Read More …

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Birthday Puja: Our maryadas Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Birthday Puja. Melbourne (Australia), 17 March 1985. I am very joyous today to see all of you celebrating my birthday as well as having the national programme same day. It’s a good combination we have in the month of March. It’s regarded as springtime in India – madhumas (मधुमास). That’s what you sing, madhumas. And as you know 21st March is the equinox, so it is a balance and also the centre of all the signs you have in the horoscope. So many centres I had to achieve and also I was born on the Tropic of Cancer as you are on the Tropic of Capricorn, and Ayers Rock is on the Tropic of Capricorn – just in the centre. So, so many combinations had to be worked out. So the principle of ascent is to be in the centre, to be in the balance, to be in the maryadas of the centre, to be in the boundaries of the centre, is the principle. So what happens when we do not keep to the boundaries, to the maryadas? Then we get caught up. If we keep to maryadas we can never be caught up. Many people say, “Why have the maryadas?” Say we have the maryada, the boundaries of this beautiful ashram here and somebody is attacking you from all the sides, on all the sides of the void, so if you go out of the void you get caught up. That’s why you have to keep to the boundaries. Read More …

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Evening Program with Conversation After Marriages Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk After Marriages in Kew Ashram. Melbourne (Australia), 16 March 1985. SRI MATAJI: Beautiful, beautiful, is really. It comes from the heart. The whole tune, everything so beautiful. Beautiful, absolutely. Is all the description, isn’t it? I don’t know what has happened to Christians now, where have they gone. Singing all these songs, feel so lost with them. It’s rather heavy, better take it out here. DR. WARREN: No, no, I want to show you… PETER COX: We wanted to show you Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji: What? WARREN: something special. Shri Mataji: Ah ha. How did you get it that way, uh? Beautiful, Oh that’s fine really. Very beautiful. Yes, may God bless you. It’s beautiful. WARREN: Ray went to all these little details. Shri Mataji: I tell you, Ray is the limit. I don’t know how he managed, really. And these little, little photographs we get, and all such problems there. RAY: Peter, are you going to do “Awake, Awake”? Shri Mataji: Hmm? PETER: We’re going to do just the song without the poem. This is the next one, Shri Mataji (handing sheet). CHOIR SING: “POLORUM REGINA” Shri Mataji: Really, they are based on Indian melodies, something like that. Very much is it. And in our, also in our, ah, villages and all that, specially in the Bengal side they have songs made like this, you see, in the -what you call – in the villages, people sing, you see, with this kind, but this very difficult to sing Read More …

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Marriages Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Marriages in Kew Ashram. Melbourne (Australia), 16 March 1985. Shri Mataji: … ask all of them to stand at the back so all the people have to stand at the back so the girls can stand up. And bring their garlands and you have to … one garland to the boy. [too much background noise to hear Shri Mataji] They should all stand up and move back. All of you will have to stand this side. All right. Should we ask them to get up now Warren? Have you given them numbers or something? Make them stand in that way … They are standing now better stand … way. Now, yes. We have to start. Get the garlands. This light has to be brought in here. I’ve not seen … shining before I think. May God bless you. No, no, the children have to be in front of them, with the flowers in the hand. Can you break off the petals for the children in their hand? Warren, you have to take the flower petals for them, for the children. In the hand … like this you make and give to the children. The boys have come, or not? They should come now. Warren, I think the girls better stand there because the boys will come here now. Can they come that way? Let the girls stand this side. Now you take your lights this side, I’m sorry to say. Is better. Take the lights on this side. All right. Read More …

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Talk to Sahaja yogis before Marriages Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk Before Marriages, Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia), 15 March 1985. Tomorrow we have decided to have the weddings in the evening time so, there are, how many people are getting married? Can you give Me the list of people? Yes. So many people are getting married. Now tomorrow, as the time is very short, as we have, they’ll be arriving tomorrow morning and they’ll be all be sleeping off, all the brides and bridegrooms, and I don’t know… Nine of you, so there are still seven coming. All right, how many girls, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, where’s the ninth? Who? Sydney, all right. So we have nine. So what I’m saying, that you have to have, choose your own, one man has to have one brother, younger, one of the younger boys, you can have one little boy as the brother or one unmarried man. Then you have to have girls who are flower girls. All right. Then you have to have one, uncle, of yours, some uncle has to be there. So this is the relation we need, is for girls to have father and mother and the boy to have either a uncle or mother, one of the two. All right. Do you follow that point? So out of you nine at least you decide now, who will you have, and the boys, little boys will be the brothers of the wife, so you select brothers of the wife, and the girls will be Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk to Yogis, Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia), 14 March 1985. Late night, after public program. This is the best you can give to your friends, instead of giving them parties, dinners. That’s how you become permanent friends. So the children are enjoying themselves preparing the next occasion. Going to sit down with Modi today, and finalize the marriage program. All right? So I would like to have the names of the people who are getting married. Ah. And I hope, they have everything all right. Because I will have to check up on these things, isn’t it? Because day after tomorrow will be a puja and then we’ll have to prepare for the weddings, that is on Sunday. Puja will be in the evening? What we can do if you want to have a sort of a follow-up program, we can have it on in the morning time. Yogi: But Mother it will be too much for you. No, I’ll be out only for one hour at the most. That’s you see because I think the contacts are lost. If you don’t say I’m there, I’m not there, then they don’t come. So best is to have one day. I’ll just come for an hour outside that’s all. Keep it like that, we’ll manage somehow. Yes, last time did we cook? So many, we cannot. So they should be left out. See they should come here at the time about say ten o’clock and leave about twelve o’clock, so they Read More …

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Devi Puja: Dedication is so Joy-giving Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Dedication is so Joy-giving, puja at Ashram, Melbourne (Australia), 9 March 1983. I congratulate all the Sahaja Yogis of Melbourne for doing such a wonderful job of this ashram and working it out with such dedication. Dedication is a very great, rewarding effort. Nothing can be more rewarding than dedication. It’s so [much a] joy-giving and peace-giving and satisfying effort or work you can call it. When it comes from the heart, with love, when you try to do something, it works out beautifully, and it shows its aesthetics, expresses. And anyone who sees that can see that it is done out of dedication. Example of dedication is Ajanta and Ellora Caves. These were the people who were worshippers of Buddha. Of course they were not realised-souls as you are. They were just worshippers of Buddha and they wanted to have their moksha, nirvana — or what you have got already. But they worked in that cave with such attention and such love that, even when they were not in yoga, when they were not in union with God, they were so much blessed that in those dark caves, where we cannot see with our normal eyes — we can’t even see those things with ordinary lights: you have to use very strong lights to see that — in those days it worked out, in those dark caves, such beautiful murals, paintings, reliefs, statues, every sort of thing, that it is surprising how they could do it. When we walk Read More …