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Talk to Sahaja Yogis Brisbane (Australia)

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Talk to Yogis in Brisbane (Australia), 5 April 1991. Sahaja yogi: I’m really sorry that she was the only one of the Brisbane media that turned up.  Shri Mataji: There were many expected? Sahaja yogi: Yes, but not expected, I sent to all the television and radio stations and both newspapers and I found them yesterday and they all said the same story, “Maybe, it depends on what the day is like.” Shri Mataji: They are busy with something so called important, all these newspapers. To be in the newspapers you have to be in the politics, that’s the only way. Otherwise they don’t care for you. Sahaja yogi: And they don’t even listen because I told them in a way that Shri Mataji is in politics. I told them about Sir C.P. being who he was, and introduced that angle and still they didn’t buy it. I think if they see anything to do with God or the Spirit, they are frightened. Or they think It doesn’t exist or – don’t know. I don’t know what we can do Shri Mother. Shri Mataji: I think we are spreading the best way. Those who are the people, who would come to Sahaja Yoga would be coming, whosoever. But those who are not that kind, can never come. So also to have too much advertisement and all that, I don’t know how far we’ll be successful. There may be some we can never give realization perhaps. But you go on. In Read More …

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Media Interview Brisbane Airport, Brisbane (Australia)

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Media interview. Brisbane Airport (Australia), 5 April 1991. Interviewer: …condition like, for instance Gorbachev…  Shri Mataji: He is a realized soul. He’s born a realized soul. It’s a, it’s a state of mind which is spiritual and where your spirit is in your attention. So in that light, you see wisdom. You are compassionate and you’re very sensible and dynamic and you do not get ruffled easily. Apart from that, it gives you a great concern for the masses and you don’t mind rectifying anything that is wrong and also you feel very, I should say, powerful – the power of love.  Interviewer: Right. Do You think Gorbachev…  has all these qualities? Shri Mataji: I think he has many.  I’m going to meet him this time when I go there. I mean, I’ve been missing him and he’s been missing Me – it’s like that but he has seen the point quite alright, that this kind of an extreme regimentation of communism doesn’t help. Also he sees the point what’s wrong with democracy, so he doesn’t want to go to that extent of democratic life like America is, where it’s complete abandonment and they have got so many problems because of this kind of freedom which is just licence. So he’s a balanced person and he’s very righteous in his own character – extremely righteous man. Like a, you see, I should say that, Socrates has described that, “We should have benevolent kings,” you see. So he believes in benevolence Read More …

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Jung and the collective consciousness Brisbane (Australia)

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Public Program. Brisbane (Australia), 5 April 1991. Baba Mama (H.P.Salve): Before that, I would like to add to what Steven was talking. That the origin of music is traced to the Omkara that is the beginning of the sound and the origin of divinity is also traced to Omkara. Therefore, all music which is music if I insist is divine. I don’t have to reach your intellectual capacity since my music has nothing to do with your brains. It has to only do with your hearts. My job or as Steven says my task would be to see that I open up your hearts  and I am sure I will do that in the process of next twenty or thirty minutes. Because you are all seekers and you are here to take your realisation. I promise you that if you open up your heart realisation would be so easy. May I now present to you my band of musicians. To begin with, is this young little lady with Guruji himself, that is Chaya Wangade. Don’t be deceived by her frail frame. She has got a very dynamic voice. Next to her who sat down just now is Guruji the “sheet actor [UNCLEAR]” the source of this flowing river of purity. Now, I call Sandesh Upatkar. He plays the tabla which is a very popular percussion in India. This is played vertically and he is at this tender age an expert on this instrument. Next I call is Ashok. This stocky Read More …

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Departure Cairns International Airport, Cairns (Australia)

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Departure, Cairns International Airport, Cairns (Australia), Friday, April 5th, 1991 [14:11] Lots of new people will be coming now. So you all be very very careful how you deal with them. Firstly, keep on the background. Don’t try to show off. Not to say you are bhoots, you have got this in you, that, no. In Sahaja Yoga, we can talk like that. We understand. But those who are coming for the first time, if you frighten them like this, they’ll just run away. So you have to be very very kind, very sweet to them. And, also you can offer some tea or something to them when they come first. So that they feel that there’s love. Let them feel your love first, not your knowledge.But just do not stretch your hands towards them so much.First, you must only make them listen to My tapes. Ask them if they have any questions – which you can answer next time. And after the tapes, you just do the aarti and finish it off. If they want to know, say, anything, you can tell them. But don’t start giving lectures, that’s one thing definite.You could show my tape for about twenty minutes. Then have the aarti and all that. They can have some tea or something. That’s all.Now, some people if they say, don’t feel it, just tell them to use the photograph. And you do not come forward, otherwise, they get a fright, because they think you look like them, Read More …

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Short Puja and Discussion with Baba Mama Ashram in Cairns, Cairns (Australia)

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 1991-0405 Short Puja and Talk, Cairns, Queensland, Australia (Notes: whatever you find in Italic and bold, refers to speech in Marathi language) Sahaja yogi: Gravity is also one type of energy, isn’t it, Shri Mataji? Shri Mataji: Of course, in the Feet. Babamama: In the Feet. Because it is one of the things which balances us, called migraine (n.t. probably Baba Mama meant magnetism). Migraine (n.t. magnetism), migraine is one thing which balances us. Is there any relation between head and the feet? Shri Mataji: The whole feet are in the head. (n.t. connected to the head). Babamama: The feet are in the head? Shri Mataji: Or head is in the feet.  Babamama: I also thought the same. Head in the feet or feet in the head, because… Shri Mataji: When you rub My soles, vibrations come of your head. Babamama: Yes. Shri Mataji: [unclear] Babamama: Yes, because when we rub Your Feet, we get a very good sleep. Shri Mataji: Now, if we start from here… Babamama: Yes, Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji: If you start… Now see, if you fold the sari like this, you see, the break is a fourth, you see. So when it opens out, you see, these chakras open up like this, see. So, this one at the back are the chakras and these are the incarnations. So in the center comes the heart. Babamama: Yes, Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji: Here is Mooladhara and here’s Agnya. Then is Swadishthana. Now, this Swadishthana is moving like Read More …

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Actualization of the baptism Hilton Cairns, Cairns (Australia)

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1991/04/03 PUBLIC PROGRAM Day 2, CAIRNS AUSTRALIA I bow to all the seekers of truth. As I told you yesterday that truth is what it is and we cannot organise it, we cannot conceptualise it and we cannot know it at this human awareness. We have to go into a subtler state to know it. So what is the truth? The truth is that you are not this body, this mind, this ego, these conditionings but you are the pure Spirit. And the second truth is that there is an all-pervading power of God’s love which does all living work. To discover this you have to become the Spirit. Now as I told you yesterday that it happens through your evolutionary process that you have come from the amoeba stage to this stage and now there’s a little more breakthrough. The actualisation of becoming the self is the actualisation of the baptism as described in Christianity. Actualisation, again it’s not something somebody puts a hand on your head and you’re baptised. It’s happening, it’s a reality and thus when it happens and when you become the Spirit, then you discover that you have divinity within you. Your divinity starts manifesting itself. So the ideas of the Divine, the talking of Divine which looks quite mysterious to us becomes a reality within us. The self is to be understood as been described in so many scriptures but as I said yesterday whatever I am telling you should not be accepted blindfolded Read More …

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Easter Puja: Purity, Morality, Children Bundilla Scout Camp, Sydney (Australia)

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Easter Puja. Sydney (Australia), 31 March 1991. Today we are here to worship Christ as He was resurrected from dead. There are lots of theories about His death, but actually He resurrected Himself and then He went down to India and settled there with His Mother. After period of His resurrection is not described in any books, as such, but in one of the Puranas written about Shalivana, one of the kings of the dynasty I belong to, has met Christ in Kashmir and he asked Him, “What’s your name?” He said “My name is Issa.” And then he asked Him also that “from which country you come, which place?” He said, “I come from a country which is foreign to you and to Me and now I’m here in my own country.” That’s how He appreciated, I think, the Indian thing. And then He used to cure people there and his tomb is there and His Mother’s tomb also is there. So there are other stories also written by people who did not know much about Him. But whatever it is, what you find that Christ was very much impressed and was very much there to teach about morality, as in the Indian Scriptures, very strongly. For Him, morality was the most important thing, in life because, as you know, He was the incarnation of Shri Ganesha. So, for Him, Ganesha’s principle was extremely important and that He has expressed by saying that “In the ten commandments it is Read More …

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Talk on Children and Evening Program, Eve Of Easter Puja Sydney (Australia)

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Talk on Children and Music Program (by Nirmal Sangeet Sarita). Sydney (Australia), 30 March 1991. I am so very happy to be in Australia with you all. Australia is one of the major Sahaja Yoga center, and people are very nice and they are really doing very well here, no doubt about it. I was told there are hundred-and-fifty children today, so now you are prospering otherwise also! They’re all born-realized children and they are going to come up very soon, so that’s how Sahaja Yoga is really very deeply rooted in Australia; you can see that clearly. But I feel that I should talk something about children very important it is, because it’s a responsibility for all of us that these children have taken their birth here. And they’re children of great intelligence and very great sweetness, because they’re born-realized. Still, you must know that, that you should not try to over-dote on them or to be over-strict with them: both things are wrong. One thing they must know, that you love them and respect them as Sahaja yogis, because they are Sahaja yogis. Instill this idea into them that “you are Sahaja yogis, and that’s why we all respect you.” Please send all the children here in front, I think would be better idea, so that they are not cramped up. You can bring them from the sides here. Is there some room for children, or for the only big children are occupying all the rooms? . You Read More …

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Conversation with yogis Applecross ashram in Perth, Perth (Australia)

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Conversation With Yogis, Applecross ashram in Perth, Perth (Australia), 1991-03-28 Yogini: Mother, it’s Mathias on the phone again, it’s Mathias on the phone again, he’s talking about lamb and things, he wants to talk about the lamb. Shri Mataji: Lamb? Huh? Should I go in the room or? Yogini: Is there a telephone extension in here? Yogi: Yes. Yogini: Is there a point from the wall? Can anyone say point from the wall? Yogini: Otherwise, there’s one in the kitchen, Mother, which… Shri Mataji: There’s a meat company, you can talk to the meat company, I think Frank can do something about it. So he wants to have an offer as soon as possible. Isn’t it? It’s a good solution. It’s maybe for this also you’ll find this, but first of all this, there must be meat companies here. Yogini: Oh, I’m sure there are, mother. As you say, Frank would be there. Shri Mataji: [unclear]. And the meat. [unclear] To Poland. Both. To Poland and to Bulgaria.

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Shri Mahavira Puja: Dead Spirits Perth (Australia)

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Mahavira Puja. Perth (Australia), 28 March 1991. Today we are going to celebrate the birthday of Mahavira.Mahavira is the incarnation of Bhairavanath, or you call Him as Saint Michael. Now these two saints as you know one as the Gabriel, Hanumana, and another is Saint Michael, one is placed on the Pingala Nadi and another one, Saint Michael, on the Ida Nadi.So, Mahavira had to go through lots of search. Of course He was a angel, but came as human being and He had to find out the thing of the left side, and how the left side acts. It’s a very complicated thing, left side, is much more complicated than right side. On the left side we have also seven nadis, and these seven nadis are placed one after another. They are described in books and given different names to them. Now, these seven nadis that are on the left side, as you know, they cater to our past. Say for example, every moment becomes a past. Every present becomes a past. Then we have past of this lifetime, and also we have past of our previous lives. Then all the past is built in within us since our creation.So all the psychosomatic diseases, as you know, are only triggered by the entities that appear from the left side. For a person, supposing he is suffering, say, from liver trouble and suddenly he’s attacked from the left side, specially Mooladhara, or any left side, Left Nabhi, because Mooladhara is Read More …

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis after Public Program, Eve of Mahavira Puja Applecross ashram in Perth, Perth (Australia)

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Informal Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Perth (Australia) I must say all the Indian Sahaja Yogis have sent you lot of love and are sorry that they could not come here, though the musicians will be coming on the other side of Australia. But in any case I’ll give them the good news that you already have become musicians and you don’t need them. Now coming back to the basics in Sahaja Yoga, we have to know that in Sahaja Yoga we have no hard and fast rules for anything, be cause you are awakened people, you are Saints and you know what is good for you, but you must keep that quality of Saintliness within you, and certain things you should avoid yourself, if possible and if not that see that what’s wrong with your centers. If something is wrong with your centers you start getting into problems, getting into ideas, something which are destructive. So is best is to judge yourself first of all – how are your vibrations. Now the best part that has happened so far I think in Perth, which I was happy, that they have assured Me that they will try to get a big ashram, because yesterday you saw how many people there were; day before you saw how many there were. Now if you have to help somebody in such a big way, then we have to have a big ashram, a big place where people can come. Now I’ve found out a Read More …

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Reach the point where we can know the Absolute Perth (Australia)

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Public Program. Perth (Australia), 27 March 1991. (Starts with Introduction from one of the yogi’s, Steven) I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset we have to know that truth is what it is. We cannot conceptualize it. We cannot organize it. Also, we cannot know it at the stage we are, that is, the human awareness. We have to become something subtler, something higher, to know the truth. And to know the truth you cannot pay for it. It exists. Only our evolutionary process has brought us to the human level and we have to know, that yet we have not known the Absolute truth. If you had known Absolute truth, there would have been no problems, no arguments, no fighting, no wars. We did not know that. And we would not know it because we have to reach the point where we can know Absolute. So there’s a little breakthrough more needed so that we can know the truth. When we talk of know and knowledge, we have to understand that it’s not the mental understanding that is knowledge. For example, one of the disciples of Christ, Thomas, travelled down to India and he wrote lots of treatise in Egypt and put them in a big jar which was discovered about 48 years back. Then they tried to decode it and a book has already come out of it called as ‘Gnostics’. He says, those who know, are ‘Gnostics.’ Now imagine the ‘Gn’ words Read More …

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Arrival and Welcome talk to Sahaja Yogis Perth (Australia)

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Welcome Talk. Perth (Australia), 27 March 1991. Version 1 00:05:56 … And if you get what you want, say you get fat, if you get the fat, you know what you have to do is if you use some ice, it comes out. 00:07:41 This afternoon went really very nicely, because I gave them the whole thing. I said, “I don’t know what is inside it. It’s for a puja somebody has given Me. Let us see what it is.” …. “But if you open it, it’s all right. You can see for yourself.” 00:11:31 … They’re sending their children for teaching them now to India, for us to teach them Indian art and Indian culture. …. 00:13:39 So we gave to the artists …. But they were so happy, the artists, that they got this. He was so hospitable … When I came with him also and the Sahaja yogis and all that, … was saying, “Mother, I hope, we hope that the ganas won’t trouble us. We are not ….” I said, “No, no, no, no …” 00:14:20 I tell you, the whole of Bombay must have been there – all the flowers. I mean, they were huge flowers, very huge flowers. They had to take a plane out; they’re for My birthday. Put them on the stage background. Such a huge flowers, you can’t believe it. Must be one, ten thousand people are there. And Sahaja yogis arrived later. The guests arrived early. So we had a Read More …

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Departure Conversation with Yogis Sydney airport (Kingsford Smith), Sydney (Australia)

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Conversation with Yogis, Departure Sydney Airport, Sydney (Australia), March, 21st, 1990 Now you have to be very careful, alright. And don’t allow collectitivty to be broken by anyone. I now feel that [Gibs?] was a very evil person, very evil man. He has harmed so many people, he has made so many people get out of Sahaja Yoga, also he tortured some people, he beat some people, not only he wiped himself but he was not a very good man, he’s an evil man. And if such a person tries to talk to you, or telephones to talk, just you tell him that: “We have no faith in you, we don’t talk to you”. Cause you will have troubles, you’ll have troubles, I’m telling you. Such people, you should never talk to or discuss anything. Just say: “We have nothing to do, you just don’t talk to us.” Alright? Please be careful. Because I’ve seen people who do all these things can bring lot of harm. As I told you the case in Germany, where two people got cancer. You don’t listen to him you just say: “We don’t want to talk you, we have nothing to do with you, we don’t know you.” “We have no faith in you”. Just say that. Because also very cunning, you see. Accounts are so horrible and God knows what he has been doing, where the money was going you see, impossible to locate and find out. It’s a very difficult situation. You’d Read More …

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Birthday Puja: Sincerity Curzon Hall, Sydney (Australia)

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Puja for the 67° Birthday, Sydney (Australia), 21 March 1990. What enthusiasm all over the world! The whole of Sydney, I think, has been drenched of all their flowers. And such nice things to say, the cards and the letters and the beautiful poems, the children are singing beautifully. Words fail to express the feelings of such jubilation and such sincere feeling of happiness. You needed a Mother to look after you, to care for you and to be able to transform you with lot of wisdom. So every birthday I find that Sahaja Yogis are also expanding their hearts and realizing that they are no more drops but they are part and parcel of the ocean and that the ocean itself is going to strengthen them and look after them. It’s the ocean that is going to nourish them. And the same ocean is going to guide them. So the connection between a drop and an ocean has to be fully established. So the limitations of a drop have to be absolutely dissolved into the greatness of the ocean. With care and with nice things to say we can improve the depth of the collectivity, and with sincere desire to be collective. The desire to be collective has to be very sincere.So, this expanse of your being will start.The first thing is needed: a sincerity to yourself. Of course, because we are coming from a drop status, from a drop, a little limited drop, from that phase, so we Read More …

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Eve of Birthday Puja, Talk to Sahaja Yogis: Don’t create groups Sydney (Australia)

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Eve of Birthday Puja. Sydney (Australia), 20 March 1990. So my tour of Australia has come to an end. Today is a day I can say it’s all very well done. We have had a very good response. I didn’t expect that much everywhere. It was tremendous. And very great things have happened, some miracles also, during this visit. And one has to know that Sahaja Yogis have to be with great potential manifesting. If they are then it triggers very well, otherwise I cannot work out. For that we have to understand that in Sahaja Yoga there’s no sacrifice of any kind. You don’t have to sacrifice anything. It’s all the time blessings throughout. You don’t have to sacrifice anything. And you don’t have to suffer also anything. Nothing of the kind. I have told you about how my father was in jail, my mother was in jail – and how many times – and how we suffered during the war of independence. We lost everything, all our properties, everything, for the war of independence only. But this is the independence, the freedom of an absolute nature, not only for you but for the whole world, for your children, for everyone. It’s a tremendous work. It’s a very great achievement. In the history of spirituality, in the history of the world, this is the greatest thing that has happened, is that people are transformed into a new awareness. Perhaps you are not aware of it. And we take it Read More …

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis Canberra (Australia)

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis in Canberra, Australia, 20th March 1990 Shri Mataji: Let’s sit. So now, please be seated.Please remove this one, if you can take it out.Please, be seated. [Cut in the audio] We are all just the same, it’s one of the very important things we have to achieve, that we are all just the same, there’s no difference between us.Apart from that, from our mundane life, it’s better that we stay in the ashram because children are looked after, children become much more social, sensible and they understand mediation. And there’s a sort of discipline about it, meditation, people do meditation. In the house, they say: “Oh, I’m alright on my own” and this and that. I know there have been problems, I agreed, there has been very bad leaders, and they were Australians, what can I do? You are all Australians. I mean, I had to choose someone and the first who came to Sahaja Yoga, one after another. So they had to be appointed with. They turned out to be bad leaders, that’s-I don’t know- that’s the lack of Australia I think.[Shri Mataji laughs]Alright, but doesn’t matter. Yu should not rebel, you should stay in the ashram, that’s very bad to rebel or to create problems for collectivity, it’s sinful, and one has to pay for it. Those who create problems for collectivity are already paying through their noses,I know people, they develop- well, I don’t mean it at all, I don’t want it- they Read More …

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Press Interview with Canberra Times Canberra (Australia)

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Press Interview with “Canberra Times”, Canberra, Australia, 20 March 1990. Shri Mataji: You ask them to bring My spectacles. Lady interviewer: Yeah, I, I came along for about now last night Shri Mataji: Little loudly. Lady interviewer: Oh, sorry. I came along for that now last night. There were just a few things that I want to clarify with You. – Umm, this is Your fifth time here in Australia, is it right? Shri Mataji: No, no. This is, I think, fourth time. Lady interviewer: Fourth time. Right. Shri Mataji: Yes. Lady interviewer: And how did you find last night, how did it go? Shri Mataji: For Canberra it’s very good, I must say. [Shri Mataji laughs] Lady interviewer: Yeah. More people than you thought of. Shri Mataji: Everywhere else much more. I think we must have had about one thousand two hundred or so in Sydney. Lady interviewer: Right, right, okay. Just a few things like on the health aspect You talking about I wonder if you could define your Creative Yoga a bit more for me. Shri Mataji: A little louder. Lady interviewer: I wonder if you could define your Creative Yoga a bit more. I was talking to a few people afterwards that time. [unclear] forms of yoga. I wonder if You could explain for me because I didn’t quite understand Your, Your actual philosophy. Shri Mataji: See, Sahaja Yoga, ‘saha’ means with, ‘ja’ means born, ‘yoga’ means union with the Divine Power. So, born with you, Read More …

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A formless energy that looks after this universe Canberra (Australia)

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Public Program Day 1 I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset we have to know that the truth cannot be manipulated, cannot be created, cannot be conceptualized by your mind or by your imagination. It is what it is and has been and will be. So the truth is very simple. Very simple thing it is. But you have to have very scientific outlook to keep your minds open because this the knowledge of the roots. What you see outside and what you know about it is the knowledge about the tree. And should accept whatever I am saying as a hypothesis and if it is proved then as honest people you have to accept it. The truth is very simple that all this universe, this cosmos is looked after, is nourished, is guided by all pervading divine power which is in Sanskrit language you can call it as paramachaitanya and in quran its called as rooh. In every great scriptures it is described as a formless energy that looks after guides everything that is living works out every balance of this universe , of this earth. Only at the level of human awareness we have freedom to choose because we have to rise to higher awareness of complete freedom. That is why we commit mistakes. Doesn’t matter. After all we are human being we are not Gods. So if we commit mistakes it makes it makes no difference whatsoever for your ascent to that Read More …

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Swadishthan, Thinking, Illness Part 2 Hilton Hotel Sydney, Sydney (Australia)

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Public Program Day 2, “Swadishthan, Thinking, Illness”. Hilton hotel, Sydney (Australia), 17 March 1990. I bow to all the seekers of truth. I’m happy you all are enjoying this music and this dancing, and about these artists I have to say that after coming to Sahaja Yoga, at a very young age they achieved such mastery. Because, when the Kundalini rises, as I told you, She enriches your centres. The centre about which I was going to talk to you today is the centre of creativity (Swadishthan) which looks after your power of action, physical and mental. This power of action moves on the right side of the spinal cord and coming to the optic chiasma, it crosses over, passes to the left side and creates an institution called ego. The institution of ego is a myth. What we do is to get something dead, like some trees dead so make some platform or some furniture. We take some stones and make a hall, and we think we have done a great job. Actually, what we have done is to reconstructed the dead, but while doing it we get the feeling that we have done it, something. That is how our ego develops. This channel on the right-hand side caters to your future.  So those people who plan too much, think too much, exhaust the energy of this centre because this centre has the first responsibility to convert the fat cells in the stomach for the use of the brain, Read More …

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Swadishthan, Thinking, Illness Part 1 Hilton Hotel Sydney, Sydney (Australia)

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Public Program Day 1, “Swadishthan, Thinking, Illness”. Hilton hotel, Sydney (Australia), 16 March 1990. I bow to all the seekers of truth. You have to know that truth is what it is. We cannot conceptualise it with our human awareness. We cannot order it, we cannot manipulate it, we cannot organise it. It is what it is, has been and will be. And what is the truth? Truth is that we are surrounded or we are penetrated or we are nourished, looked after and loved by a very subtle energy which is the energy of divine love.  The second truth is that we are not this body, this mind, these conditionings, this ego, but we are the Spirit. You don’t have to accept what I’m saying blindly, because blind faith leads to fanaticism. But as scientists you must keep your minds open and see for yourself what I’m saying: if it is so, honestly you must accept it.  We know so much through science about our civilisation, our advancement. This is the advancement of a tree which has grown outside very much; but if we do not know our roots, we’ll be destroyed. So, it is important to know about our roots. And this is what it is that I would say are our roots. As you can see, there are seven centres within us, and these subtle centres are placed in the spinal cord and in the brain. These cater to our physical, mental, emotional and spiritual needs.  On the physical side Read More …

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The Powers of Kundalini, Interview Shri Mataji with Stephen Taylor Burwood Ashram, Sydney (Australia)

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The Power of kundalini (Interview) Shri Mataji with Stephen Taylor, Friday, March 16, 1990 Stephen Taylor: Shri Mataji, what is Sahaja Yoga? Shri Mataji: Sahaja. Saha means ‘with’.Ja means ‘born’. So it is born with you.’ The right’ to become ‘united,’ which is the yoga with the Divine. Stephen Taylor: And this Sahaja yoga is something that everybody can have, is it? Is it something, everybody can practice? Shri Mataji: Of course. Stephen Taylor: And how does this connect with the divine take place? Shri Mataji: We have within ourselves this power in the triangular bone which is called a ‘Sacrum’ meaning sacred, which when awakened sprouts like a prime in seed and rises through six subtle centres, opens out in the last centre and gets connected with the divine, which is subtle energy, all around us, which organizes us, which nourishes us, does all the living work. Above all it loves us. Interviewer: Does this mean that people who have not had the ability to practice Sahaj yoga are not connected with the divine? Shri Mataji: Most of them are not. And if some of them are, they don’t know all about it. Interviewer: So this is what, an extra force that is available to human beings to develop themselves in this world? Shri Mataji: Of course. This is the last breakthrough of our evolution, where you have to get connected with the divine. You have to feel it on your central nervous system and that’s how you get Self-realization. Read More …

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Talk before Katak Dance: Three Gunas and Eternity Sydney (Australia)

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Talk Before Katak Dance. Burwood Ashram, Sydney (Australia), 15 March 1990. Shri Mataji: You see now she’s going to dance on a song, so she said space is all right for her. So to acquaint with you this kind of dancing called as katak, comes from the word katar, meaning the story telling. It’s said [INAUDIBLE] of the Northern Indian. Her guru is a very well known artist in this realm, and she has had a very intensive training in that. We are very lucky to have her here, so you could see the style, in which rhythm is very important apart from other things, that the whatever is, he’s going to tell you how she’s going to use the different tathas in Hindi, tathas are, beats to divide them into, say by sixteen by three something like that, so it’s an eternal thing. Now as you know, in our chakras also if you know, there are three gunas, now you start from the fourth. Number four. Four divided by three is eternity, so Ganesha can take Incarnation. Then six. Six has divided by three, so Brahmadeva doesn’t take Incarnation. Then comes ten. Ten divided by three, is again eternity. So the Vishnu can take Incarnations, also all the Gurus can take Incarnation. Then comes twelve, at the heart. Twelve is divided by three, so Shiva doesn’t take His form, only the Goddess does. Because it is divided completely. Then comes sixteen. Sixteen divided by three, again eternity. That’s why Read More …

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Interview – Australia, Early Teachings of Shri Mataji 1990-03-15  Indians believe that it is the mother Primordial Mother that created this universe and the Father is the one who is the spectator. Question:  Is that Hindi belief? Shri Mataji: Indian.  Also I think the Greeks see believe the same way. They believed in Athena. Athe means primordial in sanskrit language. Athea is the primordial mother. I think they all believed in it before but then somehow or other accent was more on God the Father. [unclear] The Father is the spectator and the Mother is the creator, and there’s the Son of God. The Trinity is like this – the Holy Ghost is the primordial Mother.  Question: So when did you first know that you would speak [unclear] right from the beginning when you were a child? Shri Mataji: I was born like that. I knew that. Something different.  Question: And how did you come to found Sahaja Yoga? Shri Mataji: Sahaja Yoga is a very old system which was used before also. Very ancient. Thousands of years back.  It was used even in Partantha Yoga, but that time there were very few seekers.  Like you can see on the tree of life there were one or two flowers but now it’s a blossom time. It’s a special time now. Question: Why is it special? Shri Mataji: [unclear]  Life is special. Question: So what do you offer? What is your philosophy? Shri Mataji: It is the last break-through of our Read More …

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Seek the eternal, and treat the transitory with all understanding about it University of Sydney, Sydney (Australia)

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Public Program for Members of Department of Religious Studies at the University of Sydney (Australia), 15 March 1990. Sahaja Yogi : Will you be standing up ?Shri Mataji: I think so, would be better. Or if you think it’s alright, then it’s alright. They can see me on the tips.[Long introduction to Shri Mataji by a Sahaja Yogi]Shri Mataji: Thank you very much.I bow to all the seekers of truth.At the very outset, we have to know one thing, that truth is what it is. We cannot organize it, we cannot order it, we cannot conceptualize it also with our human understanding. It is, it was and it will be. The essence of all religions, if you bring it down to the one-line essence, is this, that: seek the eternal, and treat the transitory with all understanding about it.The first part is the difficult one: seek the eternal. Eternal is the truth, and what is the truth? Now when I’m talking to you, you are all very well versed and very well educated people, I have to request you to have an open mind, a scientific outlook to see for yourself what I say is the truth or not, experience it, and treat all this talk as a hypothesis. And if it turns out to be the truth, then in all honesty we have to accept it. So there are two things which we may not accept, but they exist. One of them is that all this universe, all this Read More …

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What is the purpose of our coming? Brisbane (Australia)

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Public Program, Birsbane, Australia, 1990-03-11 I bow to all the seekers of truth. When you seek truth, how dynamic one can become. You can see the way these artists are, how the blessings of the truth helps you in your self-confidence and in the expression of your art and also you must have seen how the people from the West, who have had no training in Indian music, which is very difficult, how they have taken easily to it. In the same way, the Indians have taken to Western music very easily. The reason is we have to understand what we are and that’s the truth one has to know.The truth is that you are the Spirit. You are not this body, this mind, this ego, emotions, but you are the Spirit. Until you become the Spirit you cannot feel the all-pervading Power which is very subtle and this is another truth one has to realise, that this power exists and it does all the living works. It organises, it thinks, above all it loves you. But when I say this you have to have an open mind of a scientist. If what I am saying, like a hypothesis, turns out to be true, then you have to accept it in all your honesty.The most important thing today is to ask a question to ourselves: “Why are we here? What is the purpose of our coming?”If we ask such a question, then only a new search towards truth will start Read More …

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Conversation with Sahaja Yogis on buying the Ashram Brisbane (Australia)

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Conversation Sahaja yogi:        [Inaudible: Place of work?] Shri Mataji:         You can go for your work. Staying in the city is not so good for Sahaja Yogis. You see, vibration-wise and also not good for your lungs, you see. It’s better to be little away if you want to meditate. First and foremost thing is you have to ascend. For that you should be in a place which will help you to ascend. Otherwise, if you live in the city, the city hubbub [unclear. in the city] all nonsense. Can’t even meditate properly and it’s so polluted. It spoils your lungs completely. So it would be nice to be a little away from the city. Try to find some house of that kind. And first you have to get a mortgage for that which you can do if all of you put together. And then you have to pay the rent of the house as the mortgage part of the mortgage. So you own it all. Sahaja yogi:        I think it would take some time to own a place of that kind. Shri Mataji:         I didn’t follow that. Sahaja yogi:        He said they have desired for some time to own something rather than pay rent. Shri Mataji:   Yes if you can. Whatever is possible. If you can own something, nothing like it. But can you?  You see, this is the way I said that you first pay the first instalment. I would like to know what is it. How much you Read More …

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Talk and Evening Program, Eve of Holi Brisbane (Australia)

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Music Program “Babamama is explaining his song to a group of Yogis. He gives the words of the chorus and ask for silence as Shri Mataji starts to speak.Shri Mataji: It’s kabira who has sang because he was a dyer and he used to put colour on cloth and all kinds of things so he always used similes which were connected with his profession…. He said that. He said that -Oh, make my- “Jhini” (what does it mean)Babamama: colour. He reminds Shri Mataji the word of the songShri Mataji: colour- oh make my sheet that I’m colouring, that means his body, You’d better color it “Jhini rigini”..“Ma ke ranga me” means colour it up, means it should be coloured with that “ranga me”.So now we have different key of the same part. (Inaudible)Babamama: Shri Mataji something for Holi. Would you like to tell us something on Holi, this, I made it for Holi festival.Shri Mataji: The Holi festival is coming now, today, actually, tomorrow is the Holi, but for our convenience we are going to have it on the 18. And the Holi festival was started by Shri Krishna, because before Shri Krishna was Shri Rama who was a very serious Incarnation to make human beings as perfect human beings and he’s called as Purushottama, he is the highest being among human beings. So the people were quite serious and they were doing everything so seriously and working out all kinds of rituals. Shri Krishna came and said : “Oh, Read More …

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It is your own power which cures you Cairns (Australia)

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Public Program. Cairns (Australia), 9 March 1990. I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset, we have to understand that truth is what it is. We cannot organize it, order it, or conceptualize it. It has been, it is and it will be. And we cannot know it through our human awareness, through our mental capacities, emotional projections, imaginary thinking. It has to be perceived, and to be experienced on our central nervous system. As in our evolution we have grown, slowly developing into human state, also we have to grow a little more to become the spirit state. When I am talking to you about this mechanism, which is a subtle mechanism within us, you have to have the attitude of a scientist who has an open mind, and to accept whatever I am saying as a hypothesis. And then if it is proved, as honest people you have to accept it, because this is for our benevolence, benevolence of our countrymen, emancipation of the whole humanity; because within us is placed this subtle mechanism. This time is so special, I feel, because there are so many seekers of truth. Before this, people used to run after so many other things. First, for the security they had all kinds of clubs and all kinds of arrangements made that you should feel secured from nature, from natural crisis, from animals; and then they developed other organizations just to feel their power and their money-orientation. Now the Read More …

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Conversation with a journalist and yogis after the walk on the beach Ashram in Cairns, Cairns (Australia)

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Conversation with a journalist and Sahaja Yogis after the walk on the beach (on cricket, saris, etc.) Is it…(INAUDIBLE) too much for you? (Unclear) Shri Mataji: No, I mean we Indians have too much of sun in our body. So we perspire a lot compared to you people. Journalist: and your next stop from here is where? Shri Mataji: I think we are going to Brisbane. Journalist: Brisbane? Shri Mataji: (Mother nods her head as a yes and cont. to talking to the person) and from there New Zealand. Then back to Sydney, (unclear) from Sydney, I will fly out to Hong Kong. Hong Kong, we also have a center. I’ll spend a day there and go back to Bombay. Then there’s a tour of North India. Journalist: of? Shri Mataji: North India. Journalist: Oh! Shri Mataji: It’s going to Delhi, (*) various places. And I’ll be back from Calcutta ….on the 15th or 16th. And then I am going to London. Journalist: It could be called as busy then. Shri Mataji: (Smiles) wherever you are, you are! Journalist: do you follow cricket at all? Shri Mataji: Off course. Journalist: Yes, off course. Because India is very (proper game)(*) in cricket. Shri Mataji: I understand it very well. Journalist: Yes, because India is (UNCLEAR) you are flying in New Zealand now so perhaps when you are in New Zealand you (UNCLEAR) may be. Shri Mataji: My elder brother, he is the chairman of the Indian Cricket Team. Journalist: Oh Really? Read More …

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QTV Interview Cairns (Australia)

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Interview for QTV. Cairns, Queensland (Australia), 9 March 1990. Part 1: QTV Program Behind the scene, Cairns [ Preparation for the interview going on. Mataji talking to yogis, every body happy and enjoying. Some sections of part 2 is also included in this video.] Part 2:  1990-0309 QTV Program On Shri Mataji, Cairns (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=86&v=dryz4Z_XbhU) North Queensland today program. Presenter:  Hello! I am Mel O’Connor Welcome North Queensland today where we look at who is doing what in North Queensland. There is yoga, the meditation way, wet weather driving tips, beach erosion and financial advice for women.  Her name is Shri Mataji. She came to Australia to explain her philosophy of self realization, a delightful lady who had worked with Mahatma Gandhi when she was very young and now she has a following in the [globe? UNCLEAR]. This is just a glimpse of this very unique lady. [Shri Mataji’s voice in the background] We cannot organise it. it is a living process, a living process of evolution. In the evolutionary process we have become human beings. Now, there is only one breakthrough left is that we have to become the spirit. Sahaja! “saha” means “with”, ja is “born”. So, with you is born the right for the yoga meaning to be united with the all pervading divine power. Once it happens to you then you become the spirit. Spirit is the source of joy, source of truth, source of love, so you become that just because your attention is enlightened by Read More …

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I will ask Mother for Yoga Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program Day 2. Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne, Australia. 7 March 1990. I bow to all the seekers of truth. This last song that you have heard was written by poet called Namdeva in the year 12th century. And it says that I will go and ask Mother for my yoga, for the union with the divine. For so many years this is a folk lore, people have been singing in the villages of Maharashtra, this song and has described so clearly what I will do when I will go and ask for my yoga. Jogwa is yoga and aayi means Mother in Marathi language. And he has very clearly described what I will be doing to achieve that yoga. I wish we had time more to explain to you the beauty of this song. And is sung everywhere in a village you go they all sing this song. So this was known to India since long that you have to achieve your yoga your union with the Divine. The modern yogas are just some sort of a wee part of something. That is really not yoga I would say. Like rajyoga these days, is practiced in a very wrong way where they are doing some sort of exercises which are not spontaneous. Like if you start your car with the ignition the car starts moving by itself and the machinery also moves with it spontaneously. You don’t have to do any exercise for that. In the same way when Read More …

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Address to Sahaja Yogis, about leaders Melbourne (Australia)

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Address to Sahaja Yogis, about leaders [UNCLEAR- ONE SHOULD THINK?] just she can’t have it, you know, under [UNCLEAR] Only thing is she should give it to God, you see, that’s the point is. [UNCLEAR] try. Hmm She’s much better now. Hmm, good – alright? What more? You are alright. [HINDI – Haan theek hai.] [MARATHI] Keep a candle for her on her left Swadishthana and the left hand towards the photograph, sit on the ground, say Atharvasheersha [MARATHI] and also raise her Kundalini with a candle – three candles to be used. One in front, one there and one to raise it, then she’ll be alright. [MARATHI] She’s really doing – so many people are [UNCLEAR] her family. Alright? [UNCLEAR] Yogi [LC?):Some newspaper, when You were not in Adelaide, suggested that I follow the path of journalisms. It’s quite typical, however, this year I found enrolled in the University degree. I’m doing half media studies and half computing and it felt very good but I can say that it’s going to be an enormous amount of work and thought best to ask You that this is really the correct direction to go in. – If you want, you can close down Adelaide for the time being. – Yes, Mother. – [MARATHI] – Hunh? [MARATHI] The rest of them can close it down and shift to Sydney or to Melbourne, to Perth. You are alright but they should also shift. It’s not that but, you see, a kind of a Read More …

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What have we to achieve by leading this human life? Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program Day 1, Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne, Australia, March, the 6th, 1990 [The music group “Nirmal Sangeet Sarita” is performing while Shri Mataji arrives at the program and asks them to sing “Namostute” along with Australian Sahaja Yogis. Shri Mataji gets up from her chair, stands near the mike and starts.] I bow to all the seekers of truth. So far, we have been seeking, so many other things. Some felt that by seeking money, we’ll achieve the ultimate joy and the freedom. And some felt that if you have the power, then, you will be the Lord of this universe. Some felt that if I could be just concerned about my limited family, about my children, it would be the most joyous thing. Ultimately, we discover, that all these are nothing but mental or emotional projections, which are linear in its movement. Also, we tried to find out about science, about music, about art. But anyone of them on one side of our mental or emotional projection make us absolutely one sided or we can say they put us into imbalances. And we can see the effects of that in modern times that people are having problems which we feel have no solutions for it and sort of, we are sometimes on the verge of shocks. As a result of that, people have taken to things which are very absurd and destructive, that has added to the problems that we have already. So let us find out the Read More …

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Music Program and Dance Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk Sahaja Yogi: This is the recording Shri Mataji  Shri Mataji: Alright… Sahaja Yogi: This is the broadcast microphone. Shri Mataji: It is such a joyful day today,  that we have now Sahaja yogis for Musicians [unclear/from India . ] They have come to this country of Shri Ganesha to meet you all and to sing to you the praise of Sahaja Yoga. On their behalf, I have to say something that they are very happy, eager to meet you all…Some people have never met before…I hope It will be convenient and [unclear].[lots of echoes]02:17 It was so beautifully planned by the divine that they are here. And I am sure you are going to enjoy their music very much. May God bless you! And everybody should thank them.  [unclear] [Performance of various artists ] (Chapter: Talk end of the evening ) Sahaja Yogi : [unclear] Shri Mataji: There is a present for her dancing … [Artist took the present from Mother ] All of you & now feel the collectivity in dancing …And all my cells were dancing when you were dancing inside …So you are like the part and parcel of the whole. And you must get back to that awareness. Collective Consciousness…I hope it will be completely established within my stay in Australia. May God bless you all…

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Interview With Greek Journalist And Talk With Sahaja Yogis Greg and Cheryl Bradshaw's house, Melbourne (Australia)

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Interview with a Greek Journalist, at Greg and Cheryl Bradshaw’s house, Melbourne (Australia), March 4th, 1990 Shri Mataji: What lotuses! Very surprising! Interviewer: I’ve heard that You’ve been brought up in some of – I’m a Greek descendant myself, I was born, my life birth [unsure] in an island in the Aegean Sea. And I’ve heard that You’ve been to Greece. Shri Mataji: Oh, Greece is tremendous! Tremendous people, Greeks. You see, they’re very traditional. They’re very traditional people and they understand this, you see, and you had such great philosophers like Socrates. So, I mean, is all in-built within them absolutely and they’re very subtle people also. They understand serenity. I mean, in the whole of Europe I never heard this word anywhere except in Greece, the word serenity. And it’s beautiful. Interviewer: Could you tell me what’s the record of your philosophy? Shri Mataji: All right. The, you see, the philosophy is actually the practical side of it. Whatever has been the philosophy so far that you have to know yourself: ‘Know Thyself. Also Socrates said the same thing and Christ said the same thing, that you are to be born again. All the scriptures, all the saints have said, ‘You are to be born again’ or ‘You have to know yourself.’ Now how to do it? You see, how to achieve it was the problem which now is being solved. Not only that is solved for one person but solved for many because you can do it Read More …

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Airport Arrival & Talk to Sahaja Yogis: For our ascent is very important to be collective Melbourne Airport, Melbourne (Australia)

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Informal Talk to Sahaja Yogis. Melbourne (Australia), 4 March 1990. Very happy to be back here in Melbourne, after such a long gap, and everybody’s grown up so much; nice to see you all so healthy, beautiful and joyous. Of course I feel sad about the ashram that we have lost, that we should not have lost the ashram. But whatever has happened you can’t help it; but it’s important for Sahaja Yoga that we have to live together. I also told the same thing in Perth, that try to get a big place, because you know your children are there, and you all are there, and if you are together, negativity runs away. It has such a tremendous force, an ashram has a tremendous force. When you live together, you help each other, you understand each other, you know so many things, you learn so many things from each other and, it could be done very easily, once you start enjoying the collectivity. Human being is a social being. He is not a person who wants to live in a – single way. That’s why if you jail someone, if somebody’s in jail, it becomes a punishment. Though in the jail you have all the conveniences, everything is there, on the contrary you don’t have to work so hard, you get your food all right, everything is fine, somebody cooks for you. But it’s a punishment. And for our ascent is very important to be collective. It’s said that Read More …

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis:  In Sahaja Yoga we should not criticize anybody Applecross ashram in Perth, Perth (Australia)

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Perth Ashram, Australia. 04-03-1990  So for all the Sahaja Yogis from Perth, I must say all the Indian Sahaja Yogis have sent their love and are sorry that they could not come here, though the musicians would be coming other side of Australia. But in any case I will give them the good news that you have already become musicians. Now coming back to the basics in Sahaja Yoga, we have to know that in Sahaja Yoga we have no hard and fast rules for anything because you are awakened people; you are saints, you know what is good for you. But you must keep that quality of saintliness within you. And certain things you should avoid yourself if possible and if not then see what’s wrong with your centres. If something’s wrong with your centres you start getting into problems, getting into ideas, something’s which are destructive. So best is to judge yourself first of all, how are your vibrations. Now the best part that has happened so far I think is that the Perth (inaudible) is happy and they have assured me that they will try and get a big ashram. Because yesterday you saw how many people were there, day before you saw how many people were there. Now if you have to help somebody in such a big way then we have to have a big ashram, a big place where people can come. Now found out a suggestion another one if Read More …

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Living process of sprouting the Kundalini Perth (Australia)

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1990-03-03 Public Program Day 2, Perth, Australia I bow to all the seekers of truth. I was very happy to learn that in Fremantle there are many seekers of truth. Maybe, the blessings of the sea and the expanse gives rise to the curiosities to know what is beyond and the time has come today, I think that we’re trying to find out what is beyond this human awareness, what is beyond human endeavor. Is it all a fruitless life? So many questions are peeping in. That’s why I call it a blossom time. Because there were never so many seekers in the world before as they’re today. Of course in ignorance they might be mislaid into wrong paths and they might be completely disillusioned as well. But whatever maybe, truth exists, it is there and to find it out should be the easiest thing for us, it should not be difficult because it is so vital and so important. Whatever is vital has to be, has to be very simple and so we call it sahaja. Sahaja also means spontaneous – it means born with you. Is the spontaneous happening of this living process within you, of sprouting the Kundalini, just like a seed sprouts when you put it in the Mother Earth. You can’t pay for it first of all, no you can’t. You can’t have a course in it – it’s not mental, it’s something that is inside. Anything that says that by paying you can purchase Read More …

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Become your own essence Perth (Australia)

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1990-03-02 Public Program Day 1, Perth, Australia – [INAUDIBLE] – [INAUDIBLE] The purpose of to-night’s gathering is for you to have the opportunity, if you wish to to have this energy released to have it pass through these various centers, to enlighten them, to switch them on, if you like, until eventually it will reach the top of your head which in effect is the [UNCLEAR] I talked to you about and from that point you can become here what we call realized people. You have a whole new world opened up to you. It is a very simple process, it requires nothing of you but your own will to [UNCLEAR] Like most evolutionary events it’s quite simple. Has to be simple, it has to be something that happens without effort on your part. Just as you became a human-being without effort so this is another step in your evolutionary course. So, when Shri Mataji has finished Her talk She will offer you this experience. And I hope you’ll get it. [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [UNCLEAR – YOU?] would like Me to stand up and.. [UNCLEAR] I’ll stand up [UNCLEAR] can’t see you so. I will stand up It’s all right, it’s all right, doesn’t matter I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset we have to know that truth is what it is. We cannot mold it, we cannot organize it and we cannot order it. It exists, has existed and will Read More …