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Talk to Sahaja Yogis and Workshop Applecross ashram in Perth, Perth (Australia)

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Talk to Yogis ……better. just relax. Not to feel guilty at all, not to feel guilty. [unclear]. You don’t think, don’t think anything to think. This works…did you do TR or something, transcendental meditation or something? Never. [sahajayogi speaks]. It’s the same thing. Ha. [unclear]. You better now? More than one chakras are catching there. do you feel anything? The swadishthana and the mooladhara, [unclear]. Did you have something to eat here? Now just watch, just watch my red spot. Now better, one more time. [Shri Mataji asks for something]. I think now you are a grownup man, have you. what about your photographs. [unclear]. [sahajayogi speaks]. You are so good. Just like [unclear word]. Beautiful photographs he has. What was the camera you used at that time? It was the normal camera I used Shri Mataji. Quite ordinary? the same one, different film though. beautiful, some of them are so remarkable, one is here. [hmmm]. Now you have taken to television or? [sahajayogi speaks]. But not on the camera side. [ he says no]. forgive yourself, forgive, don’t blame. How are you feeling now? Better? The flow of cool breeze, has it increased. You are not feeling any breeze. [ slightly]. it is better now. [Shri Mataji speaks to sahajayogi]. Now don’t be serious. there’s nothing to be serious. [unclear]. Did you come by car? [mother gives advice]. We have, you know its due to some possessions. This is the theory on which you work and it works out. Read More …

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis after Arrival Applecross ashram in Perth, Perth (Australia)

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1990-0301Talk to Sahaja Yogis Applecross ashram in Perth, Perth (Australia) Thursday, March 1st, 1990 The conversation starts midway. … But this time 3 / 4 came for the program from there. And when I arrived at the airport there were about 25 to 30 people. I was so surprised you know. Such a surprise. And they did a trick. They came all the way from Malaysia by plane so they were inside the airport so they didn’t have to come inside. Just I was there. So no problem. It’s spreading very fast. I don’t know. They say 1990 is a very good year for Sahaj Yoga. It’s going to jump. Bur Russia is the thing… (inaudible) it’s unimaginable. You won’t believe it. (Name inaudible) was telling me in England there’ll all waiting for human rising. How can they wait for me? Can’t understand. They don’t believe in God, they don’t believe in any religion nothing. So, they’re just waiting. And when we went there the first day, we went through Helsinki. First of all, that’s near. And they had a big hall of 2000 people. Of course, you see you have to buy tickets. It’s not for me but Govt has it. 2000 people were sitting outside and 2000 were inside when I went there. I gave them a lecture. I was so surprised. They were so dedicated. They wanted to touch the platform on which I was sitting. With their foreheads. So amazed. How can you develop this idea Read More …

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Departure from Adelaide Ashram Adelaide Ashram, Adelaide (Australia)

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1987-05-20 Departure from Ashram, Adelaide, Australia Sahaja yogi: It’s a nice place …yet peace in your mind …Shri Mataji: Mother, Why are you doing unnecessarily…Let them do it with themselves …You should not lose your temper, that’s the big thing. That’s all we are going to do …I can look after them because when we have done nothing wrong why should we worry …[unclear…] have you written the letter, one I asked you to write …Sahaja Yogi: Yes [unclear]Shri Mataji: No but it should be with me also…Then …Sahaja Yogi: We are coming later…Shri Mataji: Once also direct your television at those people who are doing the Television here …You should say that we want to show it in England …How these people are behaving …Alright …

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Shri Mataji with ABC TV Adelaide (Australia)

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Shri Mataji with ABC TV (Starts at 3:20) Shri Mataji: Now today, I want to tell you how you can cure your trees and how you can cure yourself also. And then how to cure others. First of all, you must get cured completely yourself. You have to mature yourself in a way. When you are matured, the first thing that happens [is] that you, when you try to feel others or when you try to go into funny places, you don’t get any sensations from them. You are detached and you watch the whole thing like a witness. You don’t feel the pinch of anything. Now so, first of all, you must work on yourself and the working on yourself starts in such a way that you see yourself, what sort of vibrations you’ve got. One, you can use my photograph because my photograph has got vibrations. So, now when you start feeling it on your hands, anything wrong with it. You must know how to treat it. Now supposing today, I found that Lalitha had some liver problem, say. Now she has some liver problem here because I could feel it here on the right-hand side, little liver problem. She had it before but still, she has some lingering problem. So, it’s nothing serious. But, liver you see, doctors cannot detect very easily. But you can. Immediately you feel a sort of a ting here like that, the bell sort of rings, that is liver. Now, for liver, Read More …

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Departure from Burwood Ashram Sydney (Australia)

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1987-05-20 Departure from Burwood Ashram, Sydney, Australia, DP The last but not the least(name of the Sahaja yogini ), Your husband forgot the sweater which I gave him…Use it alright!Where is the farewell? 🙂(Sahaja yogi’s name ), This is for you …Sahaja yogini: Thank you very Much mother, Thank you …Shri Mataji: Thank you (after taking flowers from Sahaja yogis)I hope you work out your eyes very soon …Alright …I have told all of them …All the Indian Sahaja Yogis have to stay in the ashram No excuses of studies and all this …It looks as if you have come here to exploit…Nothing of the kind …They all will shift here and work hard and study …They can study… they have rooms …Why can’t you study …My God bless you all!Alright, you better tell them that mother does not want at all to stay outside.[unclear/you can study here if you want …]You have not come here to study, you have come here for Sahaja Yoga …And not to bring a bad name …(Sahaja yogis did jaykara of mother) May God bless you all!Bye, Bye Bye Bye Hope to see you soon …Come for Guru Puja …:)

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To get to realization, you have to have people of quality and a calibre Adelaide (Australia)

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Public Program (A Sahaj yogi addressing the audience, speaking specifically to someone) If you come here to disrupt the meeting, then I have a right to get you moved. You come here to listen and then to ask questions when the question time comes up. Fine. But that’s not (unclear) or advisable because you have a particular problem. (A lady’s voice from the audience) Haha. (Not clear) followed by clapping from the audience Sahaj Yogi: And you too. Thank you. Now, I am walking. I am standing around here. Four years ago, I walked with the brace. I had a belt and my leg was in a (unclear) because I had a prolonged disc in my spine, which caused my (unclear) nerve to flatten and I lost the USD of my right leg. I am not claiming, that Sahaja Yoga was totally responsible for my present condition because I know there would be regeneration, but the best medical advice you can get will tell you, that regeneration does not continue much beyond eighteen months. It is still continuing. I have a daughter. I am speaking in the first person because I don’t see any point in speaking about other people. I have a daughter, who was a heroinette. She gave up heroin in two weeks after she got what Mother calls self-realization. She is now married. She has one child and another one is expected. And she has totally changed. That came about not through some mumble jumble or not Read More …

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Talk To Sahaja Yogis, Melbourne (Australia), May 18th, 1987 But we could set out certain things in this short time, I think that was a good idea. And he told me that there were 70 people who came for the follow on. I thought now that more people will be coming down here. And the person who is the owner of this house is creating a problem for us. He cannot do it under law. He cannot do that. So, in case he doesn’t listen, we should put some law upon him, and we must see that you don’t have to pay more and we keep the backside of it [unsure]. So, that can be done. [Despite] lots of difficulties, we must keep the house. Because we’ll get more people from this new group and we have to attend to them also. So, some people can shift to the other house, which has got four bedrooms and some people can, very nicely, live here. So, we can have both the places. And one should not vacate this house. He has no business to increase the rent and he has no business to take back the house. I’ve also suggested that we should have the pre-school going on and they should not be stopped. Plus, we should also have a creche in this hall, you can have a creche [from 2,8 to 5 years old]. So, many mothers who go for work or who go for – say, some sort of Read More …

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Sharing an endless Biscuit with children Melbourne Airport, Melbourne (Australia)

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Arrival at airport, Melbourne (Australia), May 18th, 1987 It’s really the small ones. You are small or big? Let’s see, you stand up. Let’s see how big you are. Left Nabhi .Fighting the world out![Laughter]Bring them to the airport and they must be thinking, “What to do with this and what to do with that?”[Laughter]Once, we went to the airport with my granddaughter, and very small, to the [unclear]. Pulling this side. I said, “What are you doing?” She said, “In this airport, everybody seems to be mad. I’m trying to tie them up properly”. Going on like this, very fast, to tie them up. I beg your pardon? What does she say?Sahaja Yogi: She said she’s got a ribbon.Shri Mataji: Oh! I see. That’s a good one. And you are wearing a very beautiful necklace also. That’s a beautiful one. Yes, that’s very beautiful, isn’t it? You all should have one. I’ll have to send some.When you go to India, you can pick up something nice for them also. And you get lots of things for children in India, quite cheap and quite nice. That’s it. I can see that. That’s really good. For me? [the little child gives a biscuit to Shri Mataji] All right. With the hand, now you have it. Woah! Also, have some more. Thank you.Good!Baby: Nana.Shri Mataji: Nana. She is Nana? All right. So, for Nana, what do you want to give her? Nana. What do you want to give her? Nana.Baby: Kumkum.Shri Mataji: Read More …

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Interview on AIDS, with the help of Balamama Adelaide (Australia)

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Interview on Aids, Australia, 18 May 1987. or 16 May Journalist: [Inaudible] Shri Mataji: You see, because I try to know so much about religions. Journalist: Yes. Shri Mataji: Because I’m dealing with all kinds of religious people, first of all. Journalist: With- yes. Shri Mataji: And then, you see, within ourselves, it’s – there is a religion, a human religion. Journalist: Right. Shri Mataji: That is actually our valency, it’s our valency. Journalist: Our wellbeing? Shri Mataji: Valency is a thing, like the carbon has four valencies, we have also ten valencies within ourselves. Journalist: I don’t know this word. Shri Mataji: Valency is a word of chemical, chemistry, valency, v-a-l-e-n-c-y. Valency. Journalist: And is it something new going, an expression? Shri Mataji: Well it is within us, you see, this ten qualities a human being has. Journalist: We have ten valencies. Shri Mataji: Ten valences. And once we are missing in that, then we are missing in our personality. Journalist: And it seems that you have all sorts of relationship with people’s psyche and the problems they have, but we will always say there are psychosomatic. Shri Mataji: Yes. Psychosomatic diseases or human physical diseases all are because we are very much going into extremes, you see. So there are imbalances in our character. Journalist: Given that you are living in London it must be odd of you- I mean [unclear] not even from your own bags. Shri Mataji: Well, it started in India, I shouldn’t say that. Read More …

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Talk and Departure Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk and Departure Melbourne (Australia) Thursday, May 14th, 1987 Shri Mataji: Thing, he was telling me that they haven’t yet given any permission, I don’t know what are they doing about it, I don’t know what’s all the things going on but you are coming back to England now? Is she here? [UNCLEAR Enn] Sahaja Yogi: She is in Sydney Mother. Shri Mataji: She is in Sydney. I wanted to talk to her about it, so I will talk to her in. I thought she is here in the crowd. So better tell her about and because that’s another problem you have to solve. Now, anything else I have to talk to you. Anybody else in particular? Who else? Because James has mentioned all these things to me. Yes, yes Sahaja Yogi: [UNCLEAR Mr Engie] the guy has suggested Mother to ask you a Shri Mataji: Really? She has agreed Sahaja Yogi: Well it seems so Shri Mataji: Aww, she is tremendous. [UNCLEAR Engie] is such a sweet fellow, very beautiful and he has that pure intelligence as you call it. He could see very clearly that Sahaja Yoga is the way and he stuck on to it and he has a friend through whom he has come because he was Bala’s friend too, but his wife is English and this English girls always puts him down somehow or the other. So, he is not such a fast mover but Engie is and I am very happy that you have Read More …

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Interview for ‘The Age’ Newspaper Melbourne (Australia)

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1987-05-13 Interview with Newspaper ‘ ‘The Age’ Melbourne NITL HD Interviewer: Have you had a chance to look around, or everyone looking at you only, all the time? Shri Mataji: (Laughing)No I have been looking around also and I went round to see places, but I have been to Australia before, four years so I have seen it quite a lot. Interviewer: What are your impressions? Shri Mataji: Ah, it’s a.. Australia has great potential I think and as far as the country’s abroad are concerned, I think they can give a very big lead spiritually, to the whole world. Interviewer: Nice to think (UNCLEAR) other countries, spiritually (UNCLEAR)  spiritual countries, (UNCLEAR) materialistic culture.Why do you say it could give  spiritual lead? Shri Mataji: You see you may think that way, but basically, we have built up that within yourselves I think.’Spiritual potential’. Interviewer: I noticed in one of the interviews which was in the media I think it was an American journalist, interviewing YOU and YOU say that Australia is like the lowest chakra in the body. I have forgotten what it was called. Shri Mataji: Yes, yes.Mooladhara. Interviewer: Where is this chakra placed? Shri Mataji: This chakra is placed below the Coccyx and.. Interviewer: Where is that? Shri Mataji: Coccyx is a triangular bone. That is at the end of the spinal cord. Interviewer: Right. Could you explain what you mean by Australian could be like..? Shri Mataji: That is the first centre created.Before the creation started this Read More …

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You have to achieve the Absolute Freedom Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program Day 2. Melbourne (Australia), 13 May 1987. I bow to all the seekers of truth. Yesterday I told you what is the truth and that is what we are seeking today. In all our seeking we may run after the mirage of money, of power, of friendship, of carnal love but ultimately we have to know, that we are running after the truth that is the Spirit. Yesterday I explained to you how the truth manifests itself through your finger-tips and you can find out about any disease or any trouble that is within you and without. Only thing you have to know how to work it out. When the realization takes place, we have to know that a complete integration within take place. That is your physical, emotional, mental and spiritual being become completely integrated. For example, you think, you should start some sort of a work. That is what your mind tells you but your heart tells you, “No, no, no, we should not do it.” Then physical being says, “No, no, no, you’re very tired, how can you do it?” And the spiritual being can say that, “I just don’t know what is to be done.” But when you get your realization, you become very intense, very positive and concentrate your mind very clearly on what is to be done. Supposing, you have been doing something very wrong all your life and you had no courage to get out of it, after realization you become Read More …

Conversation Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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TRANSCRIPT OF CONVERSATION AT KEW ASHRAM MELBOURNE, 1987-0512 Shri Mataji: Really? Sahaja Yogi: Can’t… can’t focus Yes. Shri Mataji: The whole mind is conditioned. Australian Sahaja Yogi 1: I mean, absolutely. It is like a record. Like a gramophone record going round. Shri Mataji: Yes. I have seen this in China when, I went there when Mao was there. See, the girl used to tell us anything as if it was a record – she was just saying it, without even thinking about it. See then I felt that this is some sort of a possession this girl has got. But now, of course, Chinese have got their freedom and they are much better people, I mean they’re not that kind. But in the beginning, they did that like that in China and this is how they just conditioned them. But all our theological colleges, all these people are the same. They are just trying to find out how to condition people. I mean, if they give all their business and just take to God, they will be so very much happier. And all this effort will be lost. Very serious things. You see, for Christian community especially I think, it is that because of these barriers, they may never reach God. It’s all right for Christians in the West because they have seen the nonsense of it, most of them.  But in the countries like ours, you see which are developing, for them Christianity being so sophisticated, so good Read More …

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Interview Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Interview with Shri Mataji, Melbourne, Australia, 12-05-1987 Interviewer: Thank you for the invitation. This is an interview with Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi on the 12th of May, 1987. Interview begins 5 seconds from now.  Interviewer: Shri Mataji, we’ve been told that there were three thousand people at your program in Sydney and the hundreds rushed forward after the program to speak to You and to shake You by the hand. This is a very unusual thing in Australia. Why do you think this happened? Shri Mataji: I think there were not three thousand, maybe less, because the whole didn’t counting many people. But there were quite a lot, about two thousand. And they did rush to thank Me and their eyes were glancing with light and their faces were looking very enlightened and happy, joyous. Because this is the greatest thing that can happen to human beings. In many ages it happens: the rebirth of a person. And they felt the rebirth within themselves. The peace within themselves and the cool breath coming out of their own heads and all that convinced them and that’s why they just came to thank Me. Out of gratitude, I think. Interviewer: With your respect, Shri Mataji, the world is full of people promising the millennium. One by one they becoming exposed as charlatans, tricks us. How can we know when we have been deluded? Shri Mataji: I have been telling from 1981, in Australia, I visited four times before; every year openly telling Read More …

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The Purpose is to know the Truth Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program Day 1. Melbourne (Australia) 12 May 1987. I bow to all the seekers of truth. You are all here to seek the truth. One has to realize that truth is what it is. We have to know the truth; Truth does not have to know us. And the truth lies within us, within our being and the instrument of knowing the truth is what he has described it to you today. Now if you have got your eyes, you can see clearly that this is a white color. You don’t have to pay to your eyes for that – that’s a truth. You all see the same thing. If you are passing through a dirty lane, it’s obnoxious and you know it’s a dirty lane you’re passing through. But a dog does not know the truth, a horse does not know. They can all pass through that without feeling anything about it. So you are at a higher level than all the animals put together, all the living things that you see, you are at a higher place. So, what is the purpose of our being human-beings. The only purpose is to know the truth. Many people say that truth is love and love is truth. People don’t understand. At human level it’s a very illusive, deceiving sentence. Maybe, love may not be the truth, truth may not be love. But when they say truth is love, they mean to say that the All- Pervading power of God’e Read More …

Farewell Talk Sydney (Australia)

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And be coming back to Sydney again. And stay here have been wonderful.  We have made the largest number of people and you have to look after the people who are going to come here now.  We have to be very cautious and careful with the new people because they don’t know about Sahaj Yog, they don’t know about the kingdom of god, so don’t have to show off in any way. Try to be kind and nice to them and tell them everything.  In such a manner, as if you’re trying to be very helpful to them.  Don’t get angry with them, don’t shout at them. So very big responsibility, I think, to. Get the new people. In proper shape. It’s a knack I think. It has to be a nack if you find somebody rather difficult or someone, then you ask somebody else to deal with that, go on on shifting such a person, so that person gets fed up and will go away if somebody is asking too many questions or anything. Also, you try this thing like that, you see, don’t go on arguing, don’t argue with anyone. Too much arguments will not bring anything, you know in Sahaja Yoga cannot be argued on some extent is all right, but too much. It should not be argued. Now. We have achieved quite a lot in Sydney and for the whole world to see that if you can do that in Sydney, why not anywhere else? Let Read More …

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Mother’s Day Picnic Galstone (Australia)

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1987-05-10 Mother’s Day Picnic, Sydney, Australia [Shri Mataji:  I would like to thank all of you but thanking is coming with the rain, for a celebration of this Mother’s Day. It’s a very good idea that this Mother’s Day has been established in your country and that it coincides with My visit here. In India surprisingly we don’t have anything like Mother’s Day. Very surprising. We have all the goddesses’ days but not for mother. And we have to remember also the mother who gave us birth, and then only you can realize what it is to give a spiritual birth. And so nice to see so many children here and small little babies, all of them so much enjoying themselves in the nature and are bringing joy to all of you. There are no words that can really express the joy I feel the way Sahaja Yoga is growing in Sydney especially. I have to [unclear: achieve?] Melbourne, but I think it will go very much faster than any other country abroad than India. You can see how things are happening. It was so exciting the other day when you came after the workshop. You were so much satisfied that you have been able to save so many Australians. And you will be saving more and more and more and bringing much more joy to your country. So many things happened at such a short time. Difficult to mention all of them together. Next year you have decided to Read More …

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The road to Realization is straightforward State Theatre, Sydney (Australia)

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Public Program. day 2, Sydney, Australia, 8 May 1987. Sahaja Yogi: On behalf of the people of Sydney, may we make welcome to Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. [applause] It was said on National television today that, Sahaja Yoga is a respectable yoga because of some so-called yogas that have gone before. Shri Mataji has come to show us the truth because that’s what we all desire for. If we have a special reason for existence, it is to find the truth. And those of us that have been blessed to be with Her have found the truth. So She’s come to Sydney to tell us about the truth. In a very troubled world, that’s rife with many of the wrong answers to our troubles – the answers of drugs, hard and soft, and other things that distract us, we’ve found that those are not the answer. Holy Mother, thank You for coming and thank You for being with us. So once again, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. Shri Mataji: I bow to all the seekers of truth. The idea about truth is sometimes a misconception. Truth is what it is and will be the truth. We cannot change it, we cannot organise it, we cannot work it out. It remains what it is. And the greatest truth is that we all have become human beings to become the Spirit. We’re still not in that stage, that’s why there are problems around us. Once you become the truth, it being the absolute, Read More …

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Interview on Channel Nine Channel 9, Sydney (Australia)

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Interview with Ray Martin on TV Channel Nine (from the original tv broadcast). Australia, 8 May 1987. Interviewer: Welcome back. I guess Indian gurus have been in vogue over recent years in the West –The Beatles introduced us to the Maharishi, the Orange people blindly followed the Bagwan, but there have been others for more credible and far more respectable. My next guest is a Bombay lady whose following is growing around the world.  She says that you have the power to deal positively with every problem from con men to cancer. All you have to do is know how to tap into it, to tap into that power. Would you please welcome the lady acclaimed as India’s greatest living saint, the Mother of Sahaja Yoga – Shri Mataji. [applause] Welcome. Welcome to Australia. I know it’s very difficult for You, for anyone to sum up one’s religion, but is it possible to say what is Sahaja Yoga? Shri Mataji: Now, Sahaja- saha means with, ja is born with you. This is born with you. Within us is the power which can give us the status of a Spirit. We are not yet the Spirit. We are at a human level, and in the evolutionary process, we have to now have the breakthrough to become the Spirit. That’s very essential and is absolutely eventually, the all possible natural thing that has to happen. It should happen to all of us and the time has come for you to get to Read More …

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The time has come now to prove the existence of God State Theatre, Sydney (Australia)

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Public Program Day 1. Sydney (Australia), 7 May 1987. I bow to all the seekers of truth. As it has been explained by Charles, we have to realise that there’s something gone wrong with humanity. We have come to a level of awareness, which is a human awareness, which understands many more things than animals can understand. Like, a horse can pass through a dirty lane but a human being cannot pass through that. We have developed lots of sensitivities after becoming a human being. We have a sense of beauty, we have a sense of creativity, of music, of architecture; everything that surrounds us, we’re aghast to see what human beings can do. On the other side you see a terrible vacuum, as if the world has reached its doom. What has gone wrong within ourselves or without, it is high time for us to find out. This beautiful hall is created out of a human mind, so beautifully done, every detail worked out because the artist wanted to give something great to human beings for their happiness, for their joy. But this Tree of Life grew too big outside and the roots inside have not grown. Unless and until we know about our roots and grow them to their source of joy we cannot continue anymore. This is the knowledge of the roots. This knowledge existed in India since long and also is expressed in most of the religions. They all have hinted at it. Like in the Bible Read More …

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis: The need to go deeper Burwood Ashram, Sydney (Australia)

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis: Questions and Answers, Burwood Ashram, Sydney, Australia, 6 May 1987 I am happy that you all were meditating here, and were trying to develop your depth. You all have depth, a very deep personality within yourself. But we have to touch that, that’s very important, because you see, we sing, have music, that’s a very good thing; we enjoy each other’s company, also is very good and that’s a nice thing. But we have to enjoy our own company also by meditating, going within yourself. Now, ‘What is the use?’ one may ask. ‘Mother, now we have got realisation, we have a nice life, we are enjoying ourselves, we are doing so well.’ The deeper you go, the deeper you touch the essences of all the things, like all the elements – when you had finished your meditation, you saw how the rain fell down, how the rain came suddenly. So rain has felt your depth, or you have felt the depth of rain. Now you know that if you light one little candle and put your finger towards it with My photograph there, it acts, it reacts and it gives you a flame which burns, sometimes gives you smoke, sometimes it gallops. So you have noticed that there’s a reaction, even in the fire. So all elements have got an effect: if a saint wants to have an effect. But first of all you must reach your own essences. Once you reach your own essences, Read More …

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Daily Telegraph Interview Sydney (Australia)

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Daily Telegraph Interview Sydney Australia 06-05-1987 Shri Mataji: Suddenly become little cold, isn’t it? What about they, did they have tea?Yogini: Would you like a cup of tea or coffee?Shri Mataji: Yes, I don’t mind. What about him?R: I’m all right, thank you.R: So, how was the tour going? Your tour in Australia going so far?Shri Mataji: So far?R: Yes.Shri Mataji: It was very good in Brisbane, except for the reporter who came and could not get his Realisation, and he was very disappointed.R: Can you just explain to me, it’s quite a basic question, what exactly Self Realisation is?Shri Mataji: I will explain. You see, we have reached a stage of human awareness now. But that’s not the absolute. If it was absolute, then there would have been no problem. All the human problems come in because we have not yet got to that stage. Now, that stage which I’m talking about is Self Realisation, where you become the Spirit. That in your awareness, the light of spirit comes in. The light of spirit comes in. Without that light we have no discrimination and we have selfishness, temptations, habits, all kind of dominations on us. But when you become the spirit, then you feel complete.R: How did you find Self Realisation?Shri Mataji: I was born with it. But it was a process so far only for few people. But I found out a method by which thousands could get Self Realisation at the same time.R: How?Shri Mataji: We have Read More …

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2SER FM Radio Interview Sydney (Australia)

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2SER FM radio Interview with Shri Mataji, Sydney (Australia) May 6th, 1987 Question: What is Sahaja Yoga? Shri Mataji: Sahaja: ‘saha’ means with, ‘ja’ means born.  Born with you is sahaja. Yoga means union with the Divine, that is, spontaneous union with the Divine. Question: And is it for all ages? Shri Mataji: Yes; for all ages; for everyone. It is an evolutionary process which ends up with your ultimate goal, and that is to become the Spirit. And so it is meant for everyone. Question: And how does it differ from other forms of yoga? Shri Mataji: Other forms of yogas are leading to this one so that you are purified to receive this spontaneous yoga. But there is no need to do anywhere of these; you can get your realisation without doing anything, any one of them. Question: What is Self-Realisation? Shri Mataji: Self-Realisation is that, so far the Spirit – which is in your heart, which is witnessing your activities, but does not come into play, into your actions nor into your intelligence, nor into your attention – but once you get self-realised then the Spirit, the light of the Spirit shines and that’s how your whole attitude towards life changes. You become a transformed personality. Question: Are You the only person that can give Self-Realisation? Shri Mataji: No. There are many Sahaja Yogis who can give Self-Realisation to many people. Question: Shri Mataji, it’s written in the publicity that I read that, You can actually give Read More …

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Meeting with Sahaja Yogis Sydney (Australia)

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1987-05-06 Meeting with Sahaja Yogis., Sydney, Australia.    Starts at: 0.21.39 [Shri Mataji is listening to a pre-recorded interview where Sahaja Yoga is being explained to a reporter by two Australian Yogis – Stephen Taylor and James Blackley. Yogis applaud when it ends.] Shri Mataji: Very well done. I was thinking, there’s one point which you can tell them that, you see, human awareness is not at its best, is not at its absolute. So the – what is the evolutionary process is working. And because of that natural evolutionary process, the time has come for many to break through, then that goes into their head, I think is better. That is one point. And I was thinking why not have Rustom for tomorrow’s interview – Rustom and [unclear/him] for tomorrow’s 8:30 interview. You can say that: there’s a psychiatrist coming all the way from Viard and all that. So you could have them for the interview tomorrow, [replying to someone aside: 8:30. Yes, of course.] Sahaja Yogi One: Excuse me Shri Mother, between Your radio interview tomorrow and the television, there is one and a half hours and if it would be possible, we could take You to the man himself in that one and a half hours. Shri Mataji: One and a half hours between My interview… Sahaja Yogi Two: Between the ABC interview at 10 o’clock and the Ray Martin show at 12 o’clock. Shri Mataji:  Yes, that’s true but there’s one 8:30 which… Sahaja Yogi One: Read More …

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Shri Mataji Interview with Channel 7 News (with Andrew McCullen) Brisbane (Australia)

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Interview With Channel 7 News, Brisbane, Australia, 05-05-1987 [Interviewer is getting his realisation from Shri Mataji. Bad sound quality throughout] Yogi: Don’t think, just look over here. [at Shri Mataji’s bindi] Just put your attention here [top of the head] within you, you just have to ask Shri Mataji… [break in recording] Interviewer: It should be blowing, going towards… [unclear] Shri Mataji: A little hot. You’ll be all right. English – it took Me four years to crack seven [unclear/hearts] Interviewer: Four years to crack seven English [unclear/hearts?] It is hard to get Self-Realisation. Shri Mataji: No, no, no, yours is very easy. English very difficult. We have now some English there and they know about it. Can you loosen your tie a little bit? [Shri Mataji puts Her hand on the interviewer’s right shoulder] This tie gives a feeling that you are on duty. Interviewer: Yes. [unclear] Shri Mataji: He is all right, he is going all right – only thing is that now [unclear] [Shri Mataji works on his right hand] Interviewer: [to Yogi nearby] How did that feel to you, the first time you felt it?  Shri Mataji: How much time for you?  Interviewer: How many years, how long does it take to [unclear]? Sahaja Yogi: It is unusual, it took three months. Shri Mataji: You felt after three months? Really? Interviewer: It took you that long? Indian Sahaja Yogi: Yes, one gentleman took ten seconds. Shri Mataji: You see he is a Christian, and he told Read More …

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The need for self-realization Brisbane City Hall, Brisbane (Australia)

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Public Program. City Hall, Brisbane (Australia), 5 May 1987. I bow to all the seekers of truth. Just now, Albert has very clearly described to you the mechanism that is within us which works out our Self-Realisation. There is a mechanism, no doubt. When we are in this room, we see so many lights and there is a mechanism behind this. But what we do is to just switch on and the lights are there. So the whole mechanism is already built within us through our evolutionary process. Now we have reached at a point when we have to achieve the result of the evolutionary process. In the West, people had the quest to find out outside this body. I would say that they tried to find out the knowledge about the Tree of Life, but when the life is found out from outside, you can go up to a point, and the tree can also grow up to a point. You have to go to your roots. This is the knowledge of our roots. Now to say that it comes from India or it comes from a particular region is not true. India, being an ancient country of course, they have been able to go deep into it, but even in the Bible you get sentences like: ‘I will appear before you like tongues of flames,’ and these centres really looks like tongues of flames. Then in the Quran also, it is there called as ‘Asas’, the Kundalini, and Read More …

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Evening at Ashram and Interview Brisbane (Australia)

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Evening at Ashram and Interview, Brisbane, Australia 04-05-1987 Shri Mataji: … is very money-oriented and sometimes it becomes very crude also about it. Like I went to Boston and there they asked Me a question, ‘How many Rolls Royces She has?’ [Shri Mataji laughs] How many Rolls Royces, just think of that. I didn’t know what to say. [unclear. Break in recording] Yes, they have gone through Jung, good idea: started with Jung. I addressed them, when I was in New York. They will be very happy to have another program with Me. But I told them where Jung went wrong and why he couldn’t achieve much in his lifetime. But, the people are, at large, very stupid in America. Extremely stupid. I mean they… I talked to them about Jung and all the mistakes he must have committed and – a very deep subject. Then the chairman, an old man of eighty years, wanted to see Me personally. I said, all right, he came along and then what he says to Me, most surprisingly, he says he has a keep, and he had this keep for many years. [Yogi: A keep?] He – this gentleman. He never told his wife and now the wife is dead. Now, this keep is still not so old as I am, and now she wants to go away with another man. That’s his problem, and how can I help him. I mean, what to do, I said. [Yogi: This eighty-year-old man.] How far Read More …

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Sahasrara Puja Evening Talk:The Spirit is Paramount, it is the Highest Thing Thredbo Alpine Hotel, Thredbo (Australia)

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“The Spirit is Paramount, it is the Highest Thing”, Sahasrara Puja Evening Talk. Thredbo (Australia) 3 May 1987. I hope today’s lecture did not shock you very much. I had to tell you about it, otherwise you would not know your importance, your greatness, your responsibilities. But I must warn you about the ghost as I told you, because a mother has to warn about the ghost to frighten the children: that’s important, and the ghost is materialism, as I said, which has become so important. Matter always tries to overpower the Spirit, all the time. All the habits are formed because of the matter. Even the habits of drinking, say, habits of taking drugs, is nothing but these horrible, powerful material things which are dead are trying to overpower us.The Spirit is paramount, it is the highest thing. Nothing can reach it. It keeps you away from all the skirmishes, all the cheap and superficial problems of the world. Materialism has grown much more today than ever before. It has become very important for people to worry about things that they possess. I find in the West it has grown so subtly and so sophisticatedly that it is difficult even to find out how far we have gone with it. It’s like plastic, which can penetrate into everything and can hold it. This materialism has brought us to the cracking point now; the whole world is bothered about it. First of all there are ecological imbalances. People are watching Read More …

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Sahasrara Puja: Mother, it’s all Yours Thredbo Alpine Hotel, Thredbo (Australia)

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Sahasrara puja. Thredbo (Australia), 3 May 1987. Today is a very great day for all the Sahaja yogis. It was a long time back that I desired Sahasrara should be opened out. But waiting for a right time. It was important to do it at the right time. A boy in Aurangabad, quite young, asked Me a question, “Mother, this All-pervading Power of Brahmachaitanya is beyond senses, you cannot feel it through senses. How is it we are now feeling it through our senses?” This is the question he asked, and I ask you the same question. Before this, those people who got Realisation could not talk about it in the way you can tell people, that you can feel it on your senses. They could not explain, they could not put it into experience. Just what they did was to tell them in words, words which were telling about something – like the taste of mango, unless and until you eat the mango how will you know the taste? By just knowing about “It’s wonderful, it’s great, it’s fantastic,” still you have not tasted the mango. So, “what has happened now?” was the question. Another thing was that these people got so fed up, like Gyaneshwara at the age of twenty-one, he took a samadhi. He went into a room and closed the doors and settled down there, and he died there. All of them [did the same]  – even Christ got Himself crucified – because they could tell Read More …

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Pre-Sahasrara Puja Talk: Accept the Truth as it is Thredbo Alpine Hotel, Thredbo (Australia)

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Evening before Sahasrara puja. Thredbo (Australia), 2 May 1987. [Talk after singing (not on video).] So very nice to see you all here, all My children. Your love outbeats Me. I really find no words to express My feelings. The way you have taken to Sahaja Yoga and the way you have established yourself in Sahaj Yog. I know it is very difficult to spread Sahaja Yoga. Everywhere it is difficult because you know these are the times of Kali Yuga. I am not tired of the journey so much as the fighting the evil forces around us. When I came to Canberra, I felt the Left Swadishthana very strong, so strong that I could not walk few steps, and I asked them what’s the matter and they told Me that TM, there is some Chinmoy fellow, they are very strong here. Apart from that there are other spiritualist courses which they are announcing in the newspapers. It’s shocking that human beings take to these horrible things so easily and try to work it out. When you study the reason why they take to these horrible things, then you realise one thing: that these things promise quick results. Like supposing somebody’s son has been lost. So, they will say, ‘All right. You come to our group, we’ll find it out for you.’ Or else, somebody says, ‘I am under a great strain.’ ‘All right, you come to our group, we will remove your strains.’ It’s very easy to remove the Read More …

Address to Leaders Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Address to Leaders. Melbourne (Australia), 18 March 1985. Shri Mataji: Better teach them how to manage this. But we have experienced now your wife should not be in charge. No woman should be in charge. If you want an assistance take another gentleman but not any woman whatsoever. While I think they don’t understand. If they go in administration they go off their heads. So best is to have another assistant, if you want somebody, ask your leader here or someone and then arrange. Have somebody to assist you. But, be careful, always be careful that he does not become dominant and does not try to spoil the scope. Take always all opportunities to create joyous moments. Like say this people have come, the young people have come married, should ask them to go out and have some nice time and give them some nice time, or something. All the joyous moments must be an advantage for the people to feel happier. You see this must be done. And now, those who are married now also you must say that you are married, you see that you build up the atmosphere so that they feel the importance of marriage. I think that is not in the west but we have it. You all the times say the ripples which you see to please them, do this, do that, and then they see and then they build it up within their hearts, but that’s not here, no interest. You show interest Read More …

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis: I depend on you very much Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk To Sahaja Yogis: I Depend On You Very Much Farewell Talk. Melbourne (Australia), 18 March 1985. Shri Mataji: There are some children to be blessed.Sahaja Yogi: Any of the children yet to be blessed.Shri Mataji: Those who are to be named. There are three, four children?Sahaja Yogi: It could be.Shri Mataji: Ah, this one. Hello, what’s his name?Sahaja Yogini: Shane.Shri Mataji: Shane. Call him Prashant alright? Prashant is a good name, meaning the peace that is being enlightened. Alright?Sahaja Yogini: Thank you, Shri Mataji.Shri Mataji: Good. May God bless you. He’s happy, he likes it. You like it? You like it that way? The heat is coming out. Yes, it’s good. You must massage your children, always, alright? Heat is coming out. May God bless you. Sahaja Yogi: Now, Caroline’s children are in Sydney. You probably remember them.Shri Mataji: Yes.Sahaja Yogi: From Sydney. They have been called Gabriel and Michael. Is that what you’d like or would you like to give another name?Shri Mataji: I mean, you can call them by Hanumana and- you can call them by Indian names also.Sahaja Yogi: Bhairava and Hanumana.Shri Mataji: Bhairava and Hanumana. It’s a good idea.[Laughter][Applause] Shri Mataji: What’s her name?Sahaja Yogini: Anna.Shri Mataji: Anna.Anna, now. You can call her as Amruta. Amruta means eternal. Nice name Amruta? May God bless you.[Applause] Sahaja Yogi: It is Steven’s daughter.Shri Mataji: Ah, yes.Sahaja Yogini: His name is Nicola.Shri Mataji: Nika?Sahaja Yogi: Nicola.Shri Mataji: Nicola.Let Me see her. So, we’ll call him Niranjana, it’s a good name. Niranjana, it’s a Goddess’s name. Alright. They all look like Me, somehow.[Laughter][Applause][…] Shri Mataji: So, whats your name? Sahaja Yogi: Timothy. Shri Mataji: Timothy. From ‘ta’, there are very few good names, I think. I will give it from something else, then. Kabira is a nice name. Sahaja Read More …

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Kundalini is the pure form Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Public Program Day 3 and Workshop 1985-03-17 Melbourne, Australia Warren: [UNCLEAR] has really nothing to do with ultimately the process of Self-realization. It is a manifestation and it is that to tell our egos shut up. That’s the end of it. We needed some physical manifestation in our central nervous system consciously, to know that the process has started, so that, this rational thinking, mechanic, mechanistic brain would start to quieten down – start to quieten down. And then the process of continuing to quieten down, takes place. And when it continues to quieten down more and more of the vibrations can be taken in, more and more of these chakras can open, more and more of the Kundalini can rise and so the whole thing becomes a beautifully expanding process of awareness and so you start to feel more of the silence. Your thoughts don’t dominate you completely as much as they used to. You find that your awareness of yourself and of others changes. You find that the illnesses that you had often miraculously get better overnight. Others, which have been chronic in their onset, take time to be dissolved and to be neutralized. But, whatever it is, it works out. So, tonight I want to start with the Mooladhara Chakra and work up and just show you a little bit of the practicality that is involved in Sahaja Yoga. We have seven centers. They are made of five elements so combinations of those elements and in Sahaja Read More …

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Birthday Puja: Our maryadas Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Birthday Puja. Melbourne (Australia), 17 March 1985. I am very joyous today to see all of you celebrating my birthday as well as having the national programme same day. It’s a good combination we have in the month of March. It’s regarded as springtime in India – madhumas (मधुमास). That’s what you sing, madhumas. And as you know 21st March is the equinox, so it is a balance and also the centre of all the signs you have in the horoscope. So many centres I had to achieve and also I was born on the Tropic of Cancer as you are on the Tropic of Capricorn, and Ayers Rock is on the Tropic of Capricorn – just in the centre. So, so many combinations had to be worked out. So the principle of ascent is to be in the centre, to be in the balance, to be in the maryadas of the centre, to be in the boundaries of the centre, is the principle. So what happens when we do not keep to the boundaries, to the maryadas? Then we get caught up. If we keep to maryadas we can never be caught up. Many people say, “Why have the maryadas?” Say we have the maryada, the boundaries of this beautiful ashram here and somebody is attacking you from all the sides, on all the sides of the void, so if you go out of the void you get caught up. That’s why you have to keep to the boundaries. Read More …

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Evening Program with Conversation After Marriages Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk After Marriages in Kew Ashram. Melbourne (Australia), 16 March 1985. SRI MATAJI: Beautiful, beautiful, is really. It comes from the heart. The whole tune, everything so beautiful. Beautiful, absolutely. Is all the description, isn’t it? I don’t know what has happened to Christians now, where have they gone. Singing all these songs, feel so lost with them. It’s rather heavy, better take it out here. DR. WARREN: No, no, I want to show you… PETER COX: We wanted to show you Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji: What? WARREN: something special. Shri Mataji: Ah ha. How did you get it that way, uh? Beautiful, Oh that’s fine really. Very beautiful. Yes, may God bless you. It’s beautiful. WARREN: Ray went to all these little details. Shri Mataji: I tell you, Ray is the limit. I don’t know how he managed, really. And these little, little photographs we get, and all such problems there. RAY: Peter, are you going to do “Awake, Awake”? Shri Mataji: Hmm? PETER: We’re going to do just the song without the poem. This is the next one, Shri Mataji (handing sheet). CHOIR SING: “POLORUM REGINA” Shri Mataji: Really, they are based on Indian melodies, something like that. Very much is it. And in our, also in our, ah, villages and all that, specially in the Bengal side they have songs made like this, you see, in the -what you call – in the villages, people sing, you see, with this kind, but this very difficult to sing Read More …

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Marriages Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Marriages in Kew Ashram. Melbourne (Australia), 16 March 1985. Shri Mataji: … ask all of them to stand at the back so all the people have to stand at the back so the girls can stand up. And bring their garlands and you have to … one garland to the boy. [too much background noise to hear Shri Mataji] They should all stand up and move back. All of you will have to stand this side. All right. Should we ask them to get up now Warren? Have you given them numbers or something? Make them stand in that way … They are standing now better stand … way. Now, yes. We have to start. Get the garlands. This light has to be brought in here. I’ve not seen … shining before I think. May God bless you. No, no, the children have to be in front of them, with the flowers in the hand. Can you break off the petals for the children in their hand? Warren, you have to take the flower petals for them, for the children. In the hand … like this you make and give to the children. The boys have come, or not? They should come now. Warren, I think the girls better stand there because the boys will come here now. Can they come that way? Let the girls stand this side. Now you take your lights this side, I’m sorry to say. Is better. Take the lights on this side. All right. Read More …

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Where are religions leading? Royal Exhibition Building, Melbourne (Australia)

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Second Public Program, Melbourne (Australia), 15 March 1985. I bow to all the seekers of truth. Everyone has been talking about truth; since long we have been hearing that we have to find out the truth, and there has been a evolutionary process even in our spiritual seeking. As you must have seen how gradually we are built up and how the divine personalities came on this earth to give us a new awareness, a new dimension, a new understanding of ourselves within. All this evolved slowly one after another, outside as well as inside; but what we see outside is something frightens people. They see a person like Khomeini, they see a person like Idi Amin, then Gadaffi – they’re quite shocked. They think these fundamentalists are there, they can’t understand how these people can carry on with that kind of a fundamental idea in their head – that they are the best and they have a right to proclaim as if Mohammed Sahib was in their pocket. But is true of every religion – they are very close, they are not sophisticated so we do not see their fanaticism, we can see this fanaticism but those who are so sophisticated, like I was born in a Protestant religion; I found they were extremely sophisticated and no escape was left for any seeker to come out of it – because only thing was to dress up nicely, go on a Sunday, attend a meeting and finished – pay for Read More …

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Talk to Sahaja yogis before Marriages Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk Before Marriages, Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia), 15 March 1985. Tomorrow we have decided to have the weddings in the evening time so, there are, how many people are getting married? Can you give Me the list of people? Yes. So many people are getting married. Now tomorrow, as the time is very short, as we have, they’ll be arriving tomorrow morning and they’ll be all be sleeping off, all the brides and bridegrooms, and I don’t know… Nine of you, so there are still seven coming. All right, how many girls, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, where’s the ninth? Who? Sydney, all right. So we have nine. So what I’m saying, that you have to have, choose your own, one man has to have one brother, younger, one of the younger boys, you can have one little boy as the brother or one unmarried man. Then you have to have girls who are flower girls. All right. Then you have to have one, uncle, of yours, some uncle has to be there. So this is the relation we need, is for girls to have father and mother and the boy to have either a uncle or mother, one of the two. All right. Do you follow that point? So out of you nine at least you decide now, who will you have, and the boys, little boys will be the brothers of the wife, so you select brothers of the wife, and the girls will be Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

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Talk to Yogis, Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia), 14 March 1985. Late night, after public program. This is the best you can give to your friends, instead of giving them parties, dinners. That’s how you become permanent friends. So the children are enjoying themselves preparing the next occasion. Going to sit down with Modi today, and finalize the marriage program. All right? So I would like to have the names of the people who are getting married. Ah. And I hope, they have everything all right. Because I will have to check up on these things, isn’t it? Because day after tomorrow will be a puja and then we’ll have to prepare for the weddings, that is on Sunday. Puja will be in the evening? What we can do if you want to have a sort of a follow-up program, we can have it on in the morning time. Yogi: But Mother it will be too much for you. No, I’ll be out only for one hour at the most. That’s you see because I think the contacts are lost. If you don’t say I’m there, I’m not there, then they don’t come. So best is to have one day. I’ll just come for an hour outside that’s all. Keep it like that, we’ll manage somehow. Yes, last time did we cook? So many, we cannot. So they should be left out. See they should come here at the time about say ten o’clock and leave about twelve o’clock, so they Read More …

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We are living in a relative world Royal Exhibition Building, Melbourne (Australia)

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First Public Program, Melbourne (Australia), 14 March 1985. I bow to all the seekers of truth.I bow to them because they are a special category of human beings which is described by William Blake * as the men of God who will become prophets and they will have powers to make others prophets. This is what is described by many other seers in India also. All over the world people have talked about the resurrection time. Mohammed Sahib in His Koran has described that at the time of resurrection your hands will speak. Like when the disciples of Christ got their blessings of Self realization from the Holy Ghost which came as a cool breeze upon Him they started using their hands because they felt the power flowing through them and they started speaking the language which was strange. That was the language of the chakras and that’s why people thought they were off their minds, they didn’t understand. But today we are in a special time which I call as the blossom time. We do not have only twelve people who are seeking, twelve hundred who are seeking, but thousands and thousands, millions and millions. This seeking has come to us from ages, we have been seekers from ages, though in the western contries the tradition of seeking has lost its meaning very much because of industralisation. It has grown like a tree which does not know about its roots. In India the climate was very gentle, I think, Read More …

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Radio Interview Melbourne (Australia)

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Interview Interviewer: Right we’re going to talk about a kind of yoga, Sahaja Yoga if I’ve pronounced it correctly. And we’re going to talk to a lady called Shri Mataji. Hope I’ve got that right too. Sahaja Yoga is now a recognised religion and it’s catching on at a great rate here in Australia. In fact, the religion has just been granted permission to open a school here in Victoria and that school is situated at Kew. It’s been established to comply with the extremely high moral and educational standards set by Shri Mataji. The basic objective of this school is to instil non-aggression peace and harmony here. Here, I think we all agree with that. Shri Mataji is in Australia for a whistle-stop tour and She’s a brief visit us here in Mulba (?) Studio. And we’ll have to put those headphones on because I forgot it’s got the microphone attached to it. So, if you don’t put those on, we won’t be able to hear you. So, if you just hold that up there and speak into it, I think we would be able to hear you okay. Welcome to Australia first of all. Shri Mataji: Thank you very much. Interviewer: Actually you’ve just stepped off the plane, I believe. Shri Mataji: Yes, (?) Interviewer: Are you suffering from jetlag? Shri Mataji: No, no. I don’t much (?) Interviewer: How do you avoid things like jetlag? Shri Mataji: I think if you are at a state where you Read More …