Shri Vishnu Puja: The Basis of Dharma Paris (France)

Shri Vishnu puja. Paris (France), 13 July 1994. It is such a great day today that the French got their liberation on this day. But what is this liberation for? I don’t know. In no country where they had freedom and liberation, I have seen, it has not worked something very much that was expected. Say in France… So the liberation through anger, when it comes, hatred is the basis of these revolutions and these so called achieved liberations. If the liberation takes place within yourself, so that you are no more slave of anyone of these horrible destructive forces and negative forces, then it’s a real liberation. The second thing that has happened in France, first time in Europe, it has been recognized as dharma. It’s a very big thing, and give a hand to it. [Lots of applause.] It is recognized that Sahaja Yoga is dharma. It is. But today it was recognized. This is a very big thing. I must say credit goes to your leader and to all the Sahaja Yogis of France who have worked so hard to get this sanction, this kind of a position. It’s a very great thing. So, today I was thinking that we’ll have the puja of Shri Vishnu, who was the basis of dharma. So far we have never worshipped anyone who were the basics, except for Shiva. We only worshipped the incarnations because they became as incarnation; Ganesha came as incarnation, the Goddess came as incarnations, Rama, Shri Read More …

The Inner Religion Palais des congrès de Paris, Paris (France)

Public Program, “The Inner Religion”. Palais des Congrès, Paris (France), July, the 12th 1994. I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset, I have to say that truth is what it is. We cannot change it, we cannot transform it. We cannot compromise with it. It is what it is, it has been what it has been, and it will be what it has been. So it doesn’t change. What is needed is that we have to change. So, what is the truth? Truth is that you are not this body, this mind; you are not these emotions, intellect or conditionings. Nor you are ego. So what are you? You are the pure Spirit. All the scriptures have said this. If you are the Spirit, that is the truth. We say, “My body, my intellect, my emotions.” Who is this my? So we have to become that truth. The another truth is when we see these beautiful flowers, we don’t even think what a miraculous thing it is to have them. So beautifully planned. When you see the nature, you are amazed how every leaf gets the sun. Who looks after nature? Who does these living works? If you ask the doctor who runs your heart, he’ll tell you it’s an autonomous nervous system. But who is this auto? Who does this? They cannot answer. Science cannot answer many, many questions. Specially it cannot answer: Why are we on this earth? What is the purpose of Read More …

Conversation on Islam Montfermeil Ashram, Montfermeil (France)

Conversation on Islam, Montfermeil ashram, Montfermeil (Paris), France, July 11th, 1994 Indians are ancient people; they travelled all over the world. They went to, even to England. [Inaudible] But the best part is the timing: six hours difference. And this six hours difference comes in with the exact timing in India and here. And another I will tell you, the way they give degrees to the studies, Bachelor of Arts. “Apne a brahmachary tatva”, masters of arts, Brahmins. These are the things of ancient times, guru [?] Dr Rustom Banjorjee: Like laureates. Shri Mataji: You are surprising Me. Even in, near Peru or somewhere, there were mountains called Shiva, Vishnu. Sahaja Yogi: I don’t know Shri Mataji. Arnaud de Kalbermaten: Even in Bolivia. Shri Mataji: Bolivia, what do you have? Arnaud: In Bolivia, there are some ruins, Shri Mataji, which is unexplained and they think that the people came from a very far away country to build this ruin. And it was a city in the Altiplano. Shri Mataji: What did they build? Arnaud: It was all the city. It’s not the Maya it’s a city which is quite close to La Paz. Tiwanaku. Shri Mataji: Best part of it, I’ll tell you, is that we went down to Bogota. And what is that port called? You have got a port in Bogota? Sahaja Yogi: Cartafel? Shri Mataji: Hum, Cartafel. So we went there and they were having a party, reception party. So I asked them: “Why do you have Read More …

Dinner with Ayatollah Rohani Paris (France)

Dinner with Ayatollah Rohani, Hotel in Paris, July 1993 PART 1 Shri Mataji: …About what’s happening all around the world about Islamic people. And they said that “Mother we will join you in every way because we will bring peace.” I was very happy. Ayatollah: Is it? Shri Mataji: So they said they have had lots of conferences and this and that, organisations but nothing has worked out. And in Sudan, most of them are Muslims. And educated people even in Senegal, I know, are very well-educated people are there. And fundamentalism is not so much in Sudan, but the fight between the two sides of the Muslims; one on the Arabic side another on the African side. I said I will come to Sudan and let us see. In America, we have lots of Iranians. I met them in Los Angeles. There are 900 families, Muslims. And they want their Realisation. They’re very, very good people.  [Ayatollah speaks in Arabic about a Hadith] Djamel: He says that there is a Hadith in Arabic from the Prophet. There’s a Hadith which says that “Whoever knows himself knows God” Shri Mataji: Who knows? Ah, that’s it! That’s the point. I mean, you see, as you know, Mohammed Sahib was a great person, a great enlighted person. And he did say the same thing, I mean. How could he say something else?  Ayatollah: It’s my son. [In French] Shri Mataji: Son. Lady: Nice to meet you. So they, you see, they have Read More …

Spiritual Traditions Hyatt Regency Paris Étoile, Paris (France)

Public Program “Spiritual Traditions” Paris (France), 12 July 1993. I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset, we have to know that truth is what it is. We cannot conceptualize it, we cannot change it, we cannot transform it. We have to feel the truth. At this human level, we do not know the absolute truth, that’s why there are all kinds of different opinions about everything. Absolute truth is for everyone the same. So, what is the absolute truth? The first is that you are not this body, this mind, these conditionings, this ego, but you are the pure spirit. The another truth is that there is an all pervading power of Divine love, which does all the living work. We have these beautiful flowers, we see them all around. It’s a miracle, the way from little seeds, how they have come out in different colors, in their own personalities. We take it for granted. Who runs our heart? Doctors will say, it is the autonomous nervous system. But who is this auto? Who does all this job? We should, at least put our attention as to how the things are happening in this world. There are no answers given in the science, it cannot give, because science deals with dead things. It has nothing to do with the living work. Also it is immoral, it has no morality behind it. Some of the calamities that have come to us are by science only. Still, Read More …

Shri Mahakali Puja: Within us She creates desires Paris (France)

Shri Mahakali Puja. St Denis, Paris (France), 11 July 1993. Today we have decided to have the puja of the Devi. This time we are not talking about Adi Shakti, about Kundalini or about Saraswati, Mahalakshmi. We are talking about the Mahakali. That’s the Goddess which is the first one, which comes first and establishes Shri Ganesha in the form of Gauri. She’s the complete form of Mahasaraswati and Mahalaxmi. Out of Her only these energies emit. So She’s the one who is the power of desire of God. Within us also She creates desires. These desires within us start emitting outside and we develop a kind of a reaction to all our desires. The first and foremost desire, as you know very much, the most primitive, is to feed yourself. And this is given to us by the Goddess. She gives us the desire to feed ourselves. Now if we don’t feed ourselves, then we cannot survive. We have to have food. It is very important that we should feed ourselves sufficiently enough to exist on this Earth. And also we have seen that when this kind of desire grows very much more than normal, then you become slaves of this desire and any amount of food cannot satisfy you. All the time you think of nothing else but food. I have told you many a times that the French are very particular as to what they should eat. You see, they take at least forty-five minutes on a Read More …

Shri Durga Mahakali Puja: France is going down and down Paris (France)

Shri Durga Mahakali Puja, Paris (France), 25 July 1992. [A little child calls loudly: “Mataji! Jai!”. Shri Mataji smiles, Yogis laugh] Today’s puja we have arranged of Durga or the Kali. That is the destroying form of the Goddess of all the evil and negativity. This we had to do it in France, because I feel very strongly that day by day, in general, France is going down and down and down. While you people are coming up, the rest of the France is in the most pitiable condition. Firstly, as you understand, is the Catholic church, which – perhaps you are not aware of, perhaps maybe – because you don’t read any other languages, you just read French compulsorily by this country. So you have no international views or international news that this Catholic church has done so many horrible things in the past, that it is unbelievable that they have anything to do with God. They burnt many cardinals in the hearth – roasted them. Not only that, they killed so many people who ever tried to utter a word about them. They were much worse than Muslim people. They went to other countries like South America, America – all these places they’re all Catholics – even our country. And they killed millions and millions of people. Now as this is Kruta Yuga that has started, one of the things as I said yesterday is that: you will have to pay for whatever you have done, on mass Read More …

All of you were born with a innate faith of divinity within you Salle Gaveau, Paris (France)

Public Program, Paris Gaveau, France. 24 July 1992. I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset we have to know that truth is what it is. We cannot think about it, we cannot conceptualize it. Unfortunately at this human level we cannot feel it, we cannot know it. We have to be the Spirit to know the truth. Whatever I am going to tell you today you have not to believe blindfolded. But as scientists, keep your mind open and treat this as a hypothesis. In case it is proved then as honest people you have to accept it because it is for your benevolence, it is for the benevolence of your country and it is for the benevolence of the whole world. All world problems are due to human beings and all human problems are due to these subtle centers which are within you. When these centers get blocked, then you have physical, mental, emotional as well as spiritual problems. But all of you, believe Me, were born with a innate faith of divinity within you. This innate faith within you was there but it was challenged later on and you got confused. This challenge could have come from various sources. One of them, surprisingly, is coming from religion. Many people who have come to Sahaja Yoga have told Me that they were very much disappointed in their religions because these religions are money-oriented or power-oriented. They are not spirit-oriented. The second challenge comes to Read More …

Shri Mahakali Puja: Purity and Collectivity Centre Culturel Thierry Le Luron, Le Raincy (France)

Shri Mahakali puja, “Collectivity & Purity”. Le Raincy (France), 12 September 1990. We have had Bhairava puja in Belgium and now I thought today let us have Mahakali puja because yesterday’s experience, last night’s experience, was the work of Mahakali. She has a double role all the time, she is at two extremes. On one side, she is full of joy, giver of joy, she’s very happy when she sees her disciples are joyous. Joy is her own quality, is her energy. And yesterday you must have been amazed to see so many middle-aged ladies of France smiling and laughing. I had never seen them smiling! It’s very surprising how they were so joyous and so very happy. And this is the energy of Mahakali, that gives you all that joy after Realisation, and the joy you enjoy among yourselves. All these are the qualities of Mahakali. And when they will read out the names of Mahakali you will know how her powers manifest in Sahaja Yoga and how it has helped you all to get drenched into the ocean of joy. To begin with, I have to tell you one thing that Mahakali puja, when you are doing, you have to feel a joy within yourself, and joy from other Sahaja Yogis. If you cannot feel that, that means you are not yet grown and there’s some problem, maybe with your parents, maybe with your children, maybe your family, with your country, whatever it is. But there’s some sort Read More …

Guru Puja: Detachment, Silence, Faith Avignon (France)

Guru puja. Avignon (France), 8 July 1990. In Sahaja Yoga the Guru puja has a very different significance from any other guru puja. When you worship your Guru you are also worshiping the Guru within you. This is not in any other guru-disciple system because, in you, the Guru, the Master has been awakened. And so, when you are worshipping your Guru, then this Master within you is also worshipped, you respect it, you glorify it, you awaken it, and you manifest it. This we have to realise that – in Sahaja Yoga – if you are a Sahaja Yogi. Now, the quality of Guru, first and foremost, is that he makes you meet God: means he raises the Kundalini and establish the relation between the All-pervading Power. And as your Guru is Adi Shakti, you make that person meet, also, the Adi Shakti. So you have a double advantage that, at the same time, when you give them Realisation, not only that you make them feel the union with the Divine Power, but you can make them meet the Divinity Itself, the source of Divine Power. So your responsibility, as Sahaja Yogis, is very great because in you is there is the Guru. Now in our mantras we say that, “Mother, I am my own Guru.” But, saying that, do we realise that: if I am my own Guru, this “I” and “my Guru,” between the two, what have I achieved? Where am I? Can I guide myself? Have Read More …

Evening Program, eve of Guru Puja Camping Parc des Libertés, Avignon (France)

Musical program, camping “parc des Libertés”, on the island of Barthelasse, Avignon, France, 07-07-1990 Shri Mataji: Give her a chair. Give her a chair otherwise she won’t be able to play harmonium. Ah, [Hindi] Can you keep it up there? Ah. On that. [Hindi] You can move that. Come on. Have a sit there. Sahaja Yogi: We would like to present you with a “Bharood” [Marathi religious song] by Sant Eknath. It’s a song that, in a style that is designed to teach people what will happen to them if they don’t behave in a, in the correct way. In this particular song, Sant Eknath is talking about what happens to people if they’re not if they trick people badly. If they are, if they are rude to them if they cheat them. Sant Eknath gives example in particular of Duryodhana who took Draupadi and humiliated her in his court and it was eventually his brother, the brother of Duryodhana drag Draupadi into the court to be humiliated. And was eventually punished by Bhishma, punished by Bhishma in a dual. In the same way, Ravana who kidnapped Shri Sita was duly punished by Shri Rama. And so on in many cases. In reality, there are only four people that Sant Eknath mentions who are free from any kind of problem in his regard. For example, Bhishma and Hanumana those two are examples. Sant Eknath concludes the song inviting us to be sweet with each other and not to abuse each Read More …

You develop a balance in life Paris Marriott Rive Gauche Hotel, Paris (France)

Public Program Day 2. Paris (France), 11 July 1989. It’s only possible because they are Sahaja Yogis. Because it’s a very difficult language. And music is very intricate and the rhythm also is very difficult. It’s surprising you all have joined it so well. If I tell this in India, nobody will believe. So yesterday we were talking about this power within us, which rises and gives us our Self Realization. This is our own power, and she is our mother. She has been waiting for this moment when she could achieve this second birth for you and it has been for ages. She is like a tape recorder, she knows all about us. She knows about all our failings, she knows all our weaknesses. And she knows all about our dreams and aspirations. So she’s not going to trouble you at all. As your mother gives you birth and she took all your troubles, in the same way this mother takes upon the problems upon itself. And when she rises, she understands how to move, and how to establish your Self Realization. So to achieve your Self Realization you don’t have to worry much. That works all right. But the connection with the Divine has to be established firmly. Many people who get Realization feel very fine, and then just get lost. And then they come and complain, they have got this trouble, they have got this fever. They’ve got cancer, all kinds of things. As a result of Read More …

We need to ascend and know the Absolute Paris Marriott Rive Gauche Hotel, Paris (France)

Public Program Day 1. Paris (France), 10 July 1989. Till 7.13 yogis singing Uday ga ambe (Marathi devotional song) Thank you very much. 8.00 I bow to all the seekers of Truth. It is to be understood that Truth is what it is. We cannot conceptualise it. We cannot achieve it by our human efforts or mental projections. We have to reach into a higher state to know it. To know it. This song that they sung just now was written in the year in 1600 in India by a very famous poet, Namadeva was a tailor. Aside to Patrick: Loud. In the 16th century. And they’ve been singing this song in the villages of India with the same folk tune. It says that I will ask for Yoga, that is, the union with the Divine from Mother. ‘Aai’ is the mother. I’ll ask the Mother to give me the Yoga. And the ‘uday uday ambe’ means that ‘O Mother Kundalini! Please rise, uday uday! Please rise!’. So this knowledge of our roots was known to many people all over the world, especially in India to many saints. This Namadeva once went to meet another saint who was a potter, making things out of clay. His name was Gora. He saw him and then he says, in very beautiful couplet he describes this personality of a potter. He says I came here to see the formless that is this all-pervading power, but I see it in person, in form. And Read More …

Interview with “Afrique Magazine” Paris (France)

Interview with the French “Afrique Magazine” Afrique Magazine: The Indians call her ‘The Great Mother’ and see her as a saint; At a very young age she used to write Mahatma Gandhi’s prayers. She’s been living in London since 1975 where her husband is general secretary of IMCO. She has founded yoga centres in India and in several countries in Europe: England, Switzerland, France, Italy.Shri Mataji Devi is what we usually call a ‘guru’ which is a rather rare status for a woman. People she says mainly would be more balanced and would have a better life if they could get connected with the supreme principle within each of us. How can we reach this spontaneous connection with the divine, this Self-realisation? Thanks to her method of course! A sort of meditation, regular but easy and accessible to everyone and which is supposed to purify the energies of the body and soothe mental activities: peace ‘coming from the heart’ would settle down this way because the divine has always been with us.Is it a daring claim and a simplistic method ? Or the strength of a faith which can only bear its fruits? In any case, the disciples of Sahaja Yoga seem more and more; there would be tens of thousands of them in Europe alone… In July 1989, Shri Mataji has held two lectures in Paris in front of several hundred people. But she has confided to us in private. Afrique Magazine: Do you think you were born with Read More …

Shri Radha Krishna Puja: The importance of friendship La Belle Étoile, La Rochette (France)

Shri Radha Krishna Puja, “The Importance of Friendship”, Melun (France), 9 July 1989. I am really over-delighted that in France we have so many visitors as well as French Sahaja Yogis for this Puja. That shows the collectivity, the collectivity which attracts all of you from all over the places, and that you try to enjoy that collectivity. But the basis of collectivity, the foundation of collectivity is very deep; and the deep understanding can only tell you that the basis of collectivity is detached love. Love is the only way. It’s not possible to have collectivity unless and until you have detached love. French have been good at so many types of love that they have been talking about; and they have written books after books, novels after novels and have created lots of romantic and unromantic and all kinds of atmospheres to talk of love. But the pure love, as we understand in Sahaja Yoga, is to be now expressed by Sahaja Yogis among themselves. After all, we are all human beings made by one God. And we are all Sahaja Yogis created by one Mother. So there should be no misunderstanding between us of any kind. But we must know what sometimes makes us a little different. If we can understand the problems that we face, then it would be much easier for us to see why our love becomes so attached and not so detached. It starts becoming smaller and smaller, then a person just starts Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis: Intuition & Women Ashram in Le Raincy, Le Raincy (France)

Informal Talk to women, Le Raincy ashram (France), 9 July 1988. Shri Mataji: So, I hope you enjoy! [Unclear] are so nice! I should go for a wedding. [A baby is crying] Leave him, it’s all right. Just come along. Why are you crying? You’re all right. Take my hand. All right? Come to take Me up. Antonio [to the boy in French]: Help Shri Mataji to climb up the stairs. Antonio. Lunch is ready. [Sahaja Yoginis are serving food to Shri Mataji at the first floor.] Shri Mataji: Hello. [Cut in the video] Shri Mataji: She’s married? Patrick: No, no. She was on the list but she was not – Shri Mataji: She’s not. Patrick: She’s not. Shri Mataji: Couldn’t get anyone. Sorry for that. Now the thing is, you see, mostly the boys are of a younger age and the girls are of an older age. And sometimes the difference is quite a lot. But still, we try, we try to accommodate and see if there is any way coming in and we find it. All right? Why I asked him to talk to arrange a meeting with you people is this: because I’ve discovered that in Kali Yuga, especially in the West, the problem will be coming from the women. We have had a very bad problem in Australia, you must have heard about it. Have you heard about it? It’s a very serious problem. Now this wife has shown her ego so clearly. And She said, Read More …

Absolute truth can be found after Self Realization Maison de la Mutualité, Paris (France)

Public Program Day 2, Paris (France), 8 July 1988. I bow to all the seekers of truth. As I told you yesterday that truth is truth, and cannot be changed, or cannot be molded and cannot be organized. And if we are the seekers of truth, we have to keep our minds open about it. Absolute truth you can only find after Self Realization. Because the self itself, your Spirit itself is the embodiment of truth. When you achieve your Realization as you did yesterday so many of you, you felt a cool breeze in your hand, and you felt the cool breeze all over. This is the subtle cool breeze or the subtle All-pervading power of Divine love. It’s described in all the religions. But you have to establish yourself in your state of Self Realization, so that you can feel it all the time. Also you should know, what all this fingertips when they emit a kind of a sensation maybe burning, maybe cool, maybe frozen, what does that mean. Also one has to know that your vibrations, your personality, is to be felt on your fingers. Also the personality of others is to be felt on your fingertips. So how to differentiate, this also you have to learn. Once you know what is the problem with you, what is the center catching in you, you should also know how to correct it. Also you should know how to raise the Kundalini of others, how to give them Read More …

Eyes can cure Maison de la Mutualité, Paris (France)

Public program, Maison de la Mutualité, Paris (France), July 7th, 1988 [First, last part of Realization process done by a French Sahaja Yogi Michel C.] [Shri Mataji’s arrival at 10:43] [Talk starts at 15:20] I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset, I would like to apologise for getting late but I think Paris is a place where you can never reach on time, because of the traffic. My visit to Paris has been so many times and I have met really very wonderful people who are seeking the truth. But I think the problem is, we do not know what is the truth, what is the reality. We have certain concepts in our mind and we believe that must be the reality. But the truth is truth, it is no concept. And a scientist would keep their mind open. So, I would request you to keep your mind open to what he has told you about. Because if what he has told you can be proved, then you can accept it as something fundamentally true. But before that, it is hypophysis. As I’ve said many a times, the knowledge of the West has been like the knowledge of the tree. But one has to know the roots. Because if we do not find our roots, the tree will collapse. This mechanism that you saw, within you, is like a computer being made within you, during your evolution. Only thing, it has to be connected to Read More …

Talk on marriage, Songs, Shri Mataji giving names Ashram in Le Raincy, Le Raincy (France)

Talk on marriage, Songs, Shri Mataji giving names. Ashram in Le Raincy, Le Raincy (Paris-France), November 4th, 1987 It’s nice to see you all here, to meet you all. Now, we were very successful in these programs and so many people came. I’m sure they will be coming again. Some of them are such that they may not have light, a particular statement of mind or maybe something like that. Because one lady came and asked Me, “How do you say that Hitler was the disciple of Dalai Lama?” But it’s written down in the papers, it is written down in the books, there’s nothing a new thing I’m telling. And whatever I’m saying, it has the truth behind it. I never tell lies. And I talked about Gautamala also it’s a fact. Maybe it is an American trick, I don’t know what it is, but there are doing all these things there. We have to be concerned about the whole world, isn’t it? But for Sahaja Yogis it is important, first and foremost thing, that when the others come to our meetings or to our follow-up, we should show at most peace within ourselves. And we should be extremely gentle in talking to them. You should be very, very kind to the- extremely kind, much more kind than, normally, people are. And they should feel, “These are very kind people and very nice people”. And not arrogant people that think no end of themselves. And there should not be Read More …

Divine love doesn’t expect anything Maison de la Mutualité, Paris (France)

1987-11-03 Public Program Day 2 Paris France [FRENCH] I was just, Shri Mataji, explaining a bit the chakras. So I explained, I explained the different two sides Shri Mataji: Two sides SY: The right and left side, the centers of energy and that’s all I’ve told. Shri Mataji: All right. Thank you.SY: I think [that’s it] for introduction before.Shri Mataji: All right. I bow to all the seekers of truth. The truth can be realized if you love someone. But it should be pure love without any lust and greed which is a Divine love. Divine love doesn’t expect anything. You cannot sell it, you cannot force it on anyone. It is the purity of your being, that starts emitting that love. For example there’s a lamp, which is dirty, and even if you put a light inside that it won’t give any light at all. So the first process that starts in you of the awakening of the Kundalini gives you the feeling of the All-pervading power and also gives you a kind of a peace within and a security. But above all you develop a new awareness called as collective consciousness. This new consciousness is where you can feel another person on your finger tips and you start emitting yourself in vibrations of Divine Love. But these vibrations are very dim in the beginning. The Kundalini comes, again falls down, again attends to the problems in the being. The problems could be physical, could be mental, could be Read More …

Power that comes with your second birth Maison de la Mutualité, Paris (France)

Public Program Day 1, Paris (France), 2 November 1987. I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset, I apologize for being late because you know my plane could not leave London somehow. But that shows that you people have real patience, and you want to know the truth. One has to know that truth is what it is. You can not have a concept about truth. Truth is reality which is beyond human concept and is beyond human endeavour. It exists and manifests itself once you become a subtler being. For example, this tree that we see, these trees, they have their roots. We have the knowledge of the tree. And we have no knowledge of our roots. So to know the knowledge of our roots we have to become subtler personality. The truth is absolute. There can not be two opinions about truth. As you can see, there’s a candle burning, everybody can see it, and know there’s a candle burning. There can not be two opinions about it. When we see that there are many opinions about God, about reality, about philosophies, we get confused. But to know the truth, we have to become a little higher personality than a human being. On human level we live in a relative world. Nothing is absolute. We have many choices and then we start saying, ‘I believe in this, I believe in that.’ But whatever is your belief may not be the truth; may not be Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Criticism, Ego, Rightsided Dangers Ashram in Le Raincy, Le Raincy (France)

Talk to Yogis, ashram in Le Raincy, Paris (France), 17 August 1987. So first of all, on behalf of my husband I want to thank you because he told Me he wants to thank all the French for giving such a nice time to him. But let be [inaudible] because you’ll feel embarrassed later on. [Laughter] All right. Come in. And I must say I was really amazed how in such a short time you could arrange such a nice program and such nice music, specially the music surprised me very much. I’ve never had such good poetry and such good music from the French. And this time it was really remarkable. Now why I have called you to talk to you, because I’ve had no time to talk to the French separately. I thought I better talk to you here. And you are so many, I’m very happy to see that. I must tell you that France has been the most difficult country for Me to work out Sahaja Yoga. To begin with we had Marie who was in charge of the France Sahaja Yoga, and somehow or other she found it impossible to manage things. When I came for lectures there were so many people, but when I went away they all attacked her very much. So, every third month she used to telephone to Me, “Mother, You come along otherwise I’m going to give up Sahaja Yoga. I’m not going to work with them.” And whenever I Read More …

Shri Krishna Puja: The 16 000 Powers of Shri Krishna Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines (France)

Shri Krishna Puja. St Quentin (France), 16 August 1987. Shri Mataji: What’s that? Sahaja Yogi: Little Ganeshas, a gift. Please be seated. Shri Mataji: What is shaking? Sahaja Yogi: It think it’s the stage. Shri Mataji: What’s shaking here? It’s the energy? Sahaja Yogi: It think it’s the stage. It was very beautiful of children to come and receive me, in this beautiful manner. This can take you back to the days of Krishna, when in his childhood, he was very much respected by his friends, and they tried to do all the honour that was possible. You know the story of his birth. Also, you know the story – Shri Mataji, [aside]: I think you should stop the water, otherwise my speech might be little bit- You know the story of his birth. Here we have the flowing of water, both the sides. The way he used to play his flute, along the Jamuna River. The whole thing looks, sometimes, so human, but it is not. At the right time, whenever he needed, as a child, he manifested his powers, that he killed a woman who was a devil [Putana]. Ultimately, he killed Kansa. After that, you know that he preached Gita, but it is not so fast as that. After killing Kansa, he went down to Dvaraka to reule there. And there he has to marry five more wives. First, he had sixteen thousand wives. So, many people can ask a question, “Mother what sort of a husband Read More …

Shri Krishna Puja Evening Program Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines (France)

Shri Krishna Puja Evening Program, Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines (France), 1987-08-16 [Sahaja Yogis sing “Swagat. Agat. Swagatam” to welcome Shri Mataji] [6:35]Shri Mataji: Thank you very much. Thank you very much, thank you. [Conversation in Hindi] They can come here [on the stage]. It would be better. [Shri Mataji asked the musicians to come on the stage in Hindi]Would you like him to play tabla?Sahaja Yogis: Oh, yes. [Laughter, applause]Shri Mataji: Ah, what is this?Sahaja Yogi: This is the list of the children, who would like to get a name.This is the list of the children, but they are twenty years old.Shri Mataji: Ah. Today, we have to do it.Sahaja Yogi: Some of very same age but some are quite old.Shri Mataji: So, I can do it quick, otherwise,Sahaja Yogi: Yes.Shri Mataji: And we can inform. Now we have so many children here. He has given me a big list of children.Sahaja Yogi: But some are very old children Shri Mataji.Shri Mataji: They start from two months.Sahaja Yogi: Two weeks.Shri Mataji: Two weeks to seventeen.Sahaja Yogi: Twenty-one. I saw one of twenty-one Shri Mataji.Shri Mataji: One is twenty-one. Yes![Laughter]All right. So, it’s a very big list and I’ll try to give them nice names.[Hindi]Please be seated, all of you. Please be seated Sahaja Yogi: Shri Mataji, before starting his performance, we have a surprise for mister CP and Yourself.Shri Mataji: Oh.Sahaja Yogi: Because you are traveling both on each side of the world, and I heard that mister CP has not been in Read More …

Talk and Evening Program: Shehnai Concert by Bismillah Khan, Eve of Shri Krishna Puja Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines (France)

Talk to Sahaja Yogis the day before Shri Krishna Puja. It’s very nice to see you all here assembled in such happy mood and the nature is also very happy with you.I’ve tried to learn French but I think it’s a very difficult language.When I came first to France they told me, Mother you should never say that you are a happy joyous person. I think I practised to myself — Now the idea was that, in France people believed that the whole world is full of misery, we are all sinners and we should all suffer and we should be all miserable, so everything that wasgrey and very gloomy was regarded as the highest art, I did not know what to do because I enjoy, what am I to do. They said because they’d think that you are ignoramus, you don’t know what is going on in this world, that’s why you are joyous. But I said I know everything, so I started addressing them with “Les Miserable” and today I say the joyous, you are the joyous people here sitting down in France, because you have found out the truth and that is the source of joy. We are here to celebrate the birthday of Sri Krishna tomorrow and is the most suitable thing to celebrate his birthday in France. Because he came on this earth to establish the fact that truth is joy, when he came on this earth, at that time there were people who believed Read More …

Spirit is the reflection of God Almighty Within Us Universite Paris Diderot Paris 7, Paris (France)

Public Program Day 2. Medical College, Paris (France), 21 May 1986. I bow to all the seekers of truth. As it is, at length, Gregoire has told you about the chakras and about the three nadis which are within us. But what is the purpose of the mechanism within us? What is the purpose of getting self-realisation? People have been talking about the self, about the Spirit. But what is it? Spirit is the reflection of God Almighty within us in our heart. He is the witness of the play of this power which is the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost is reflected within us as the Kundalini. She’s the residual energy. She creates the whole of our being but still She is residual because she is still not manifested. As I told you She is the energy of our pure desire. The pure desire is to be the Spirit. We may avoid the issue, we may try to do something else, but actually what we really desire now, after becoming human beings, that we should become the Spirit. But English language, as you know, is very confusing for Me, for Spirit is the Atma which is the reflection of God and spirit is the dead body or a dead possession and spirit is also an alcohol. So when I’m talking about Spirit here I’m talking about Atma, the self. We talk of the autonomous nervous system in the medical science. This auto is the Spirit. It is the witness Read More …

A living force of God has to work through you Universite Paris Diderot Paris 7, Paris (France)

Public Program Day 1, University Paris Diderot, Paris (France), 1986-0520 I bow to all the seekers of Truth. In these modern times, a new wave of consciousness is working. People are trying to seek, perhaps many of them do not know what to seek. The atmosphere is filled with this idea that there are a special category of human beings who are seekers. And with this demand, there’s a market now established to give you the truth. But we have to understand that you cannot find truth in the market. It cannot be found by your effort either. The truth is a living force. It’s a living force of the Living God. And you cannot find anything that is living through your efforts. That living force has to work through you, to manifest that truth within you. So we have to be honest to ourselves and understand that no amount of theology or theories are going to achieve that state. We came from amoeba state to this state, and whatever we have achieved in our evolution, we have felt on our central nervous system. It is not that somebody tells you: “This is truth, and that is truth“, you have to believe it. [To the interpreter: If somebody tells you “this is truth and that is truth“] Moreover, even if I say anything, you should not believe into, but keep a mind open. The thing is even they need not sort of blindly have faith in Me. I’m trying to Read More …

Devi Puja: The sincerity is the most important Dourdan (France)

Devi Puja, French seminar. Dourdan (France), 18 May 1986. Today we have gathered here in this beautiful place to work out something very deep. There are certain things of which we are not aware, which are in the history, and some things in the atmosphere, they affect us very much because we are the product of five elements out of which the Mother Earth is the left side within us. The Mother Earth changes its atmosphere, its hills and dales, rivers, fashions them in such a way that it gives a variety to her temperaments. Now God has created only one world, He’s not created many worlds, He’s created only one world, this world where alone here only human beings are created. So, this is the most important planet, you can say, which has been in the attention of the Divine. So, the whole cosmos works out for the benefit of this planet, and the working of that cosmos has created this earth, and then human beings, and then the Sahaja Yogis. So, the Sahaja Yogis are the epitome of the creative powers, they are the epitome of God’s desire, that’s what He desired, that’s why He created this cosmos, this universe and this earth. So now His desire is fulfilled when He sees seeds being reflected through the Sahaja Yogis. But there is still a few things we have to clear out within ourselves.His desire represents the Mahakali power within us. Now we have to see how His desire Read More …

Talk Before Shopping, You have to become Kingsley and Ruth Flint's flat, Strasbourg (France)

Talk to yogis. Strasbourg (France), 10 October 1985. How many are the new Sahaja Yogis in Strasbourg please? Are there any new ones here? From Strasbourg. Yes, that’s true you are, I know that. Is there someone there? Good, it’s beautiful people. The responsibility on the new Sahaja Yogis is much more because the load of the truth they have to bear on one side, load of the truth they have to bear on one side to the Sahaja Yoga and another side to the other people. Because in the beginning we are related to other people, sometimes we get confused. We’re related on their own grounds, you see, that’s the problem is, not on our grounds. So one has to have a flexible personality in Sahaja Yoga, to bend down, to pull out people and to hold on to the truth. In the beginning you may find certain things so stunningly different, but stunningly doesn’t mean shockingly and maybe that others will start trying to tell you something that may, may hamper your progress, those who are not Sahaja Yogis. As if you’re in the intermediary state, just now say, for example, then what happens that you see the other people who are there and you see Sahaja Yogis who are there. Now the Sahaja Yogis who have not matured much come up to the same level, a sort of you get attacked by them or sort of interested in them and then you find them up to your Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis Kingsley and Ruth Flint's flat, Strasbourg (France)

Informal talk with Sahaja Yogis after Public Program , in Kingsley and Ruth Flint’s flat, Strasbourg (France), 1985, October 9th. [Sahaja Yogis say the three great mantras] Om twame wa sakshat Shri Mahalakshmi, Mahasarasvati, Mahakali,Trigunat mika Kundalini sakshatShri Adi Shakti MatajiShri Nirmala Devi namoh namaha Om twame wa sakshat Shri Kalki sakshatShri Adi Shakti MatajiShri Nirmala Devi namoh namaha Om twame wa sakshat Shri Kalki sakshatShri Sahasrara swamini moksha Pradahini MatajiShri Nirmala Devi namoh namaha Shri Mataji: May God bless you all.May God bless you all. Today’s program was very successful for us and I hope the same thing will happen in Frankfurt. It was a very successful program I must say, a lot of people they have got their Realization but the lecture was also very well done. So, it’s all nice, I’m very happy with today’s program.Sahaja Yogi: Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi ki!Sahaja Yogis: Jai!Shri Mataji: May God bless you.So good night everyone.Sahaja Yogis: Good night Shri Mataji. [Cut in the audio]Shri Mataji: Here, it’s the road which is about thirty feet wide [10 meters], which looks like a little line here.You can all see later on. Now, this road comes on this hill which is on top. And then from there, you see this valley, so big, you can’t walk it’s too big. From this side, flows a brook and there’s a river flowing from this side. And this river goes and meets Vaitarna. And the river Vaitarna word is used always in the “shastras”, in the Read More …

The knowledge of the roots has to be such that you get new enrichment to the nerves Strasbourg (France)

Public Program, Strasbourg, France. 9 October, 1985. nb. no video exists due to technical problems. I bow to all the seekers of truth. You are the lovers of truth and you have been seeking in these modern times. It is a special category of human beings who are seeking, beyond materialism, beyond power, beyond emotional enterprises, because the times are such that we have reached the epitome of our evolution and the breakthrough has to be found. But the way we understand breakthrough in modern times is through our mental understanding because today the human beings are more mental. It analyzes, reflects and tries to understand the truth. But we do not realize that mental projections are always linear. They move on one line up to a point and then they recoil back, (back) upon us, like science has evolved to create hydrogen bombs.Everything ends up in self-destruction or in collective destruction. Even on political level when we talk of democracy we find it has become demonocracy and when we talk of communism it has become autocracy. So where did we go with all this? We have to reflect again to understand that there must have been some mistake.The truth that is known through our reading or through our thinking is a partial truth, because partial truth is more dangerous than ignorance. Like you see a land and you think that is the road and when you walk on that little land, you fall into a big ditch. So this Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis: Like a Drama (Arrival) Kingsley and Ruth Flint's flat, Strasbourg (France)

Talk to yogis. Strasbourg (France), 9 October 1985. Like a drama it is that you have to reach a climax point, otherwise … I’m saying it is like a drama that it has to reach a climax point. And I see the game has started now this way creating an expectancy and little suspense, and then ultimately you arrive on the scene. Yesterday it was said that there’s no chance at all, so I wondered, “What’s happening now?” I said, “If there’s no chance, then how can I go?” Then I said, “I’ll have to sneak in somehow.” And it worked. It is becoming very interesting now, Sahaja Yoga. Formerly I remember that when you went to any place there would be a straightforward march, no problem. But without events it’s not interesting, and when there are certain events one should not get upset but to watch for the climax. For you also in your personal life and individual life and collective life you’ll find such things happening now, you’ll find this kind of happening in a very dramatic manner. And then they report it to Me that “How, Mother, dramatically the whole thing took place and how it all worked out so well.” But the biggest thing is that we are getting now such good Sahaja yogis who are so very matured. And it’s so encouraging that there are still so many sane people left in this mad world. And the madness is also of different varieties. I find Read More …

Departure (to Belgium) Talk Charles de Gaulle Airport, Roissy-en-France (France)

Departure Talk, Charles de Gaulle airport, Roissy-en-France (France)Monday, July 1st, 1985 [All the attempts that have been done to create a trade by Sahaja Yogis for Sahaja Yoga have failed, but the ones that exist before]…Established shop is alright, like she has, but otherwise. So everybody must take up a job and should go on working on his job, not to change, it’s ego, absolutely ego that: “I’ve given up my job.” It’s ego, 100% it’s ego. You see as if, you see, as if it’s side dish; it’s the main issue for us to maintain yourself. Of course, Sahaja Yogi is there. And we had one case like this long time back of Douglas. Douglas he used to every time come and boast: “I’m successfully unemployed.” And I could not understand because he had no money, nothing, he was just trying to boast. And with all that, he was on and on and on. Then one day, I told him that: “You are not to see My face if you give up this job.” And when I’ve said that, you see, you’ll be surprised today he has got his own car, his own home, he’s got his work, he’s doing very well, both of them. So now, you should understand that you should not give up your job. Now those who are making something, like they are making some herb thing – who’s making the one you ?Now, for you also, you see, it should be a side dish, Read More …

Inauguration of The Advent Palais des Congrès de Versailles, Versailles (France)

Inauguration of “The Advent”. Versailles (France), 30 June 1985. Sir C.P: My dear Sahaja Yogis, Sahaja Yoginis, my very dear friends. First of all I would like to express my profound gratitude by the great honor you have done me today by allowing me to participate in this beautiful function. [Excusez-moi. Je ne parle pas le Francais. Je parle l’Anglais]. It’s totally/wholly wrong to come to France and not to speak French but I do apologize. This is a very important occasion; very important occasion from many points of view. I look upon the function today in a certain historical perspective. First of all about the book itself, “The Advent”, and the author I have had the privilege of knowing the author, the very distinguished author, the very learned author, Mr. Gregoire, for a number of years now. Well, I tell you, I have known many young men but his sparkling brilliance, his mastery of history – history of ideas, history of movements, his analysis of the past, his comprehension of the present and his vision of the future ? these are unique and I admire them and I respect them. His book has a message for the world, a message which is so needed today, a very important message. The inspirer of the message is sitting to his right but the one who has used his strong pen, beautiful pen, powerful pen to convey the message to the world is sitting here, Mr. Gregoire. I am very happy that Read More …

Guru Puja: You Have To Respect Your Guru Château de Chamarande, Chamarande (France)

Guru Puja, Paris (France), 29 June 1985. (Gavin Brown reads out prayer to Shri Ganesha in English at beginning of puja) I believe you all say these things, and you listen to it, and you say it from your heart. Only the one who are united with God can worship Shri Ganesha. And Shri Ganesh worships your Mother. First of all, one must understand that there’s a combination of a Mother and a guru. Because guru is a very hard task master. He doesn’t allow any liberties to be taken, and Mother is very kindly. Well, you don’t have feelings for the Mother, do you? Is it all a lip service, that you listen, goes into your head and you think you have become the surrendered sahaja yogis? Like all Islam, people believe they’re surrendered to God, like Christians believe they’re surrendered to God. It’s just a lip service that you are this, you are that. How do you know what is said is a fact? Have you not seen the Sun in My hands? What more proof you want? Anybody who misleads you is of course is sinful, no doubt, but to fall a trap to such a person! If you had told a child that The Mother is coming, he would have fought, “I’m going!” Would have cried and wept. What about your vibrations? You don’t use your vibrations? You have come all the way from Guru Puja here, who is your Guru? Whom are you going to Read More …

The true master will tell you that you have to seek your Self Musée social, Paris (France)

Public Program Day 2, Musée social, Paris, France, 1985 [Introduction to Sahaja Yoga in French by Patrick. Short resume to Shri Mataji about what he said.] [Talk starts at 23:35 on video.] I bow to all the seekers of truth. The day before, I told you, that eventually, one has to understand what a seeker has to find out. He has to find out himself, his own Spirit, the idea of having some sort of a new venture into the style of seeking comes because people want to make money out of you. But the one who is the true master or the Satguru will tell you that you have to seek your Self. He has no interest in what you are nor he has any interest in what you can give him! Because he stands on the giving end, and he cannot receive even if he wants to, he cannot receive by his own nature and so, also, he does not want because by his nature he is compelled, just to give! Even if you try to please such a guru, by giving him something, he will say: ”I’m sorry, you’d better have it to yourself”. We had a very great saint in Maharashtra called Tukaram. And we had a very enlighten king called Shivaji. And when he heard about Tukaram and found out about him he took lots of ornaments for his wife and things for his children and for his household and went to see him. So Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis: Why We Are Not Growing? (Evening) Ashram in Le Raincy, Le Raincy (France)

1985-04-23 Talk To French Sahaja Yogis in Le Raincy ashram, Paris, France. Talk 1 Audio starts here Shri Mataji: So we’ll call her Gauri, all right? Gauri. Sahaja Yogi: It’s a boy’s Mother. Shri Mataji: It’s a boy? [Laughter] Oh, it’s a boy! Boy, what happened! So we can have the Gauri Kumar. It’s a name of Ganesha. Son of Gauri Kumar. He’s smiling. Acha, he looks like a boy, I was thinking- [Laughter] Gauri Kumar. All right. Sahaja Yogi: [In French: please move that everyone can come in and see Shri Mataji] Sahaja Yogi: I brought your shawl. Shri Mataji: Yes, thank you Shri Mataji: Now, we have many Sahaja Yogis here who have been also married in France, and there will be more coming down to be with you all, to strengthen the centre in Paris and other places. I feel that this year has not been very good for Sahaja Yogis, and there has not been much growth as it should have been. I don’t know why but it is always to be understood that when Sahaja Yoga does not expand there’s some sort of a negativity in the Sahaja Yogis, because all the nature, everything works out for you. As soon as you change, the whole atmosphere changes and you get a big response from outside. I’ll give you an example of England now. In England we had one girl- lady, as you know , Gavin’s wife, who was very negative. And since she’s gone away, Read More …

Conversation with French Sahaja Yogis, denounce the false gurus Ashram in Le Raincy, Le Raincy (France)

Conversation with French Sahaja Yogis, Ashram in Le Raincy, Le Raincy (France) April 23d, 1985 [Audio and video start when Marie is translating into French: “The so-called Guru told them that, “By December – that was last year – “by December the world would be destroyed”. When Shri Mataji went there, it was in September. “And that everyone had to try to come before the world gets destroyed.”] Shri Mataji: And he is buying – he is just buying Rolls Royce’s and he has got three airplanes; I think, I don’t know. I mean such a fraud and such a horrible gangster he was! And he talked through his hat. I don’t know what he talked. Nonsense! I just wanted to test him and I saw him and I wanted to know what is he up to and I found out that he was a dirty man. He was doing all dirty tricks with there – he was like a homosexual. Most of his disciples get Aids also because he spoils their private parts and things like that. And in my presence, I’m surprised about you, but normally they faint and they just become like stones in my presence, the disciples. They can’t stand Me at all.Once Yogi Mahajan told Me he wants to bring three of them for my program. I told him, “Don’t bring them”. He won’t listen. He brought them. And I was sitting like this [in an armchair] and at least two hundred feet away, in Read More …

This is the Last Judgment. You are judged by yourself Universite Paris Diderot Paris 7, Paris (France)

Public Program Day 1, Paris, 1985-04-22 [Patrick is introducing Sahaja yoga] Shri Mataji: I’ll stand, it will be better. Better take out my shoes. I bow to all the seekers of truth. These are exceptional times. There are thousands and thousands people born on this earth who have been seeking the truth for many lives. It is a very special category of personality. As a result of this, people started the seeking in various ways of the unknown. But whatever is unknown is not the truth. This is the problem in the West, that we are not knowledgeable about the roots on which we stand. The knowledge is in the West is that of the tree and not of the roots. And that is why many people have taken full advantage of this naivety. From 1970 I’ve been speaking very loudly against all such people who have come to the West to delude you, how they have tried to loot you and to give you diseases and troubles of incorrigible nature. In the beginning when I talked against them, people here were protesting vehemently and they were so badly mesmerized that I could not rescue them. Such people, we can say, form real cults. But the truth has to be in the line of evolutionary process. It has to have the bases. It cannot just come from somewhere and people say, “This is a method,” or, “This is a way it is to be done.” As you know, in the Read More …

Arrival Charles de Gaulle Airport, Roissy-en-France, Paris (France)

Arrival, Charles de Gaulle Airport, Roissy-en-France (France), April 22nd, 1985 [Shri Mataji says hello from far. Starts at 4:10] Shri Mataji: How are you? All right? We have two American ladies, all right? And there’s a little gift from America. And Paul, you know him very well. Guido! How can I meet these people around? Sahaja Yogi: There’s a space over there. [Conversation with the French coordinator Alexandre] Shri Mataji: [Inaudible]. It’s better. Because otherwise they’ll start thinking, you see, that it’s another Guru. [Inaudible]. And your wife? Sahaja Yogi: Inaudible. [Alexandre introduces the French SY to Shri Mataji] [Cut at 17;12; comes back to 17:02] [Cut at 17:31] Shri Mataji: All right, I want to see you all. Alexandre: So, you come with us and the luggage will go there with Denis. Shri Mataji: Let’s call [inaudible] I ‘ll ask her. You must take them also.

8th Day of Navaratri: What We Have To Do Within Ourselves, Talk After the Puja Complexe sportif René Leduc, Meudon (France)

Ashtami Puja, Eighth day of Navaratri, Meudon, Paris (France), 30 September 1984. Today is the eighth day of Navaratri, and it is great day for Sahaja Yogis because it is the most important time, period. That is, the seventh centre, we have crossed, and we are on the eighth centre. We need not think about the Goddess what She did on the eighth day, we have to think today what we have to do within ourselves. After crossing the seventh day, after crossing the seventh chakra- that is the real ascent in your spiritual ascent. What are we to do on the eighth one? It’s so Sahaja that today should be the Ashtami, because that is the day the Goddess killed so may evil doers, and devils and Rakshasas. She did it on Her own, alone. Now these evil forces are manifesting in human beings. They have spread out. They are within us. So we all have to fight those forces within us. The war is within ourselves, is not without. First when you ascend the seventh chakra and you are on the eighth step, you have to remember first you have to fight those forces within ourselves. You are all very intelligent people; bit too intelligent sometimes. So whatever I say you may twist it, and may try to use it in your own intelligence. But it is not in your well-being. It is not for your ‘hita’, for your good. You want to use it because you think Read More …

Whatever is our genuine faith, why doesn’t it manifest in our life? Paris (France)

Public Program. Paris (France), 29 September 1984. [About the mike] Just have to test it a bit. I bow to all the seekers of truth. Now, we talk of truth, we have heard about it, and so many of us think that we know the truth. But truth is only known on your central nervous system. Supposing, sitting down in London, I believe that Paris is like this or like that, I do not see the truth. So, I have to experience, I have to come here, and see for Myself. But whatever I do in My imagination is of no value. And if we are honest, if we are really seeking, if we really want to know the truth about ourselves, we have to have an experience. Now, if somebody says, that: “I give you the experience”, or he says that: “I am God” or: “I am something great”, must you believe that person? Many people have believed in all religions. Hindus have believed in religion, Muslims have believed, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, all have believed in something. But this belief did not transform you, did not give you power to follow the religion. We can take the case of Christians, where it was said by Christ, that: “In the Ten Commandment, it is written that: ‘Thou shall not commit adultery’, but I say unto you: ‘Thou shall not have adulterous eyes.’” But those who believe in Christ, or believe in church, have they got pure eyes? Have they got Read More …

Radio Enghien Interview hold on telephone Marie Rouger’s flat, Paris (France)

Interview on Radio Enghien, Marie Rouger’s flat (175 avenue Ledru-Rollin 75012), Paris (France), September 29th, 1984 Interviewer [speaks in French]: She is known in India as the greatest woman of these days. She comes to propose to Westerners as well as to Orientals a new stage in their conscience which was promised by Jesus-Christ himself. We can ask Shri Mataji how to achieve this new state of conscience and what will it bring to us?Marie: The question is how to reach this new state of consciousness and what will t bring us? Shri Mataji: This new state of consciousness, to begin with, should be called as Collective Consciousness and I should be achieved spontaneously.You don’t have to exert, you don’t have to pay for it, it is spontaneously happening, f there is somebody who knows how to awaken the residual power called Kundalini within you. Interviewer [speaks in French]: Très bien, on peut aussi se poser la question de savoir comment se manifeste ce nouvel état de conscience si, dans le passé déjà, des personnes en ont parlé dans notre civilisation, aussi bien que dans d’autres civilisations.Marie: Now, how does this awareness manifest itself, and what have been the manifestations of awareness in the past, now, as there have been people who have manifested this awareness. Shri Mataji: In the tradition of spirituality, it has been happening for thousands of years. But in the beginning of time, the tree of life had few flowers which became the fruits. But I Read More …