Public Program and Impressions, Evening Natura Artis Magistra, Amsterdam (Holland)

Public Program in Hindi, Artis, Amsterdam, 31st July 1994, Translation I bow to all the seekers of truth. First of all you should know that truth is what it is. You cannot change it. You cannot describe it. And the biggest thing to understand is that it cannot have any kind of reconciliation, or compromise with untruth. Truth is absolute. It cannot be different. People talk of different things, there is definitely something wrong there. So one should know first what this truth is. Truth is that you are not this mind, body, not all your thoughts or your emotions. You are the true spirit. Unless you become one with the spirit you cannot get any satisfaction. Your search may never be over. So let us desire to become the spirit. People explain numerous things to you. Do this or that. Do penances, do fasts. You have done it all in your previous birth. This birth is to achieve the truth. And to get the truth, the right time has also come. It is very beautifully described in the “Nal Damayanti Vyakhyaan” how this time had to come. Once Nal caught hold of Kali and wanted to kill him, because Kali made him part with his wife. Nal said it is good for Kali to die. It should be his end. Kali said, “Let me die, but first hear my Mahatmya (significance).” “What is your Mahatmya? You only put confusion into the minds of people.” asked Nal. He replied, “When Read More …

Afternoon, Interview with Hindustan TV station Varikstraat Ashram, Amsterdam (Holland)

Interview with Hindustan TV station, Varikstraat Ashram, Amsterdam, 31st July 1994, English Transcript (missing) Translation from Hindi Q: Shri Mataji, can you give your introduction in short? Shri Mataji: Introduction is such that, I belong to the family Shalivahanas. Both my father and mother were great disciples of Gandhiji. And my father was a member of the Constituent Assembly and also the parliament. My mother was honours in mathematics. I have a brother who is a cabinet minister. But spiritually it was my parents who recognised me, that I had something special in me. Then I got married. At that time I was studying in a medical college in Lahore. Then there was trouble in Lahore in those times, so I had to leave my studies, and I got married. My husband is Dr. C. P. Srivastava and he is a well known person. Later he was chosen as the Secretary General of a U.N. Organisation called IMO, International Maritime Organisation. He was chosen unanimously by 134 nations. Now he has taken retirement. I have two daughters. One of them is married in Bihar. They are related to (Rajendra Babu) Q: Mostly we see that there are yogis coming from India, but they are mostly men. You are the only woman. Do you see something special in that? Shri Mataji: Yes, because only a woman can do this work, not possible for others. Sri Rama came, and had to go to exile. Sri Krishna came and he had to leave Read More …

Through Kundalini you get a complete integrated vision of yourself NH Amsterdam Grand Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam (Holland)

Public program at Hotel Krasnapolski, 1994 Amsterdam I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset, you have to know that truth is what it is. You cannot change it. You cannot describe it. Unfortunately, at this human awareness you cannot know it. Moreover, truth is not going to compromise with anything. [Aside: Speaking everyday makes your throat…] Now the… whatever I am going to tell you, you have not to take it for granted, because we have had lots of problems with blindfolded faiths. But keep your mind open as a scientist. And treat it as… [Aside: Come along, sit here.]And treat it like a hypothesis. And if it proves, then you have to accept it as honest people, because it is for your benevolence, for it is the benevolence of your country, your countrymen and humanity at large. The truth is that you are not this body, this mind, this intellect, these emotions, your conditionings and your ego: but you are the pure Spirit. We say: my emotions, my feelings, my intelligence, my ego. Who is this ‘my’ which owns…? The second truth is that there is an all pervading power of divine love which does all the living work. We see these beautiful flowers – it’s a miracle. In Holland you get so beautiful flowers. We never even think how they are coming out of the Mother Earth of different shapes so beautifully. So the second truth is that there is a subtle power Read More …

Why we cannot come to a common point? NH Amsterdam Grand Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam (Holland)

Public Program, Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam, 16th July 1993 I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset, I have to tell you that truth is what it is. We cannot change it, we cannot transform it, we cannot conceptualise it. Truth has to be known, through our evolutionary process, on our central nervous system. It has to be tangible. When we are seeking the truth, we have to know what we have to seek. Whatever I want to tell you today, you need not take it for granted and you should not believe me blindly. But you have to be a like scientist with an open mind and see for yourself if it is true. Then, as honest people, you have to accept it because it is for the benevolence of yourself, your country and the whole world at large. These days we see so many problems in our life all kinds of struggles going on. On one side you see our family life is breaking; our society is breaking; people are becoming materialistic and have no place for love and affection. Everybody seems to be starving for affection and compassion. These are the worst times for peace also. There is no big war on but every country seems to be on the war path with each other. People take to all destructive measures automatically. As a result we have people who are suffering from all kinds of diseases which are incurable. There are people who are Read More …

What is the practical advantage of getting self-realisation? Kunstcentrum Artemis, Amsterdam (Holland)

Public Program Day 2, Second Evening, Artemis, Amsterdam, 2nd July 1992 At the very outset we have to know that truth is what it is. We cannot change it, we cannot conceptualise it and also, at this human level, we cannot feel it. That means at (the level of) human awareness, we have to humbly accept that we have not reached that stage where our awareness can feel the truth. Once we realise that something more has to be done, something more has to happen, if we are seeking the truth, then you jump into a new category of human beings; and this category of people are called the seekers of truth. And yesterday you saw how so many of you felt the truth. So what is the truth? Firstly, the truth is that you are not this body, this mind, this ego, these conditionings; but you are the pure Spirit. And the second thing is, that there is an all-pervading power of God’s love which does all the living work. So when we talk of yoga it doesn’t mean standing on your heads. But it means your connection established with that all-pervading power. Like this instrument was made beautifully, but it has to be connected to the mains – otherwise it has no meaning. That is what people start thinking when they cannot find the truth, that “What is the meaning of their life? What is the purpose of their life?” They bang their heads here and there; try Read More …

The culmination of our evolution Kunstcentrum Artemis, Amsterdam (Holland)

Public Program Day 1, First Evening, “Artemis Arts Centre”, Amsterdam, 1st July 1992 I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset one has to know that truth is what it is. You cannot change it. You cannot conceptualise it. You have to accept it as it is. Unfortunately, at the human level you cannot know the truth. You have to become the Spirit. It is not just saying that you have to be the Spirit, but you have to become. It is an actualization for which there is a mechanism beautifully placed within you. And it’s the culmination of our evolution now. I see you all here as seekers of truth. This is a new category of people. As William Blake has described; “Men of God will be born on this earth, and they will know God, they will know divinity; and they will have the power to give divinity to others.” And this is the time when one has to get to your Self-realisation. When I see western people seeking, I find that there is a basic reason why there is such a strong desire to seek, because we are born with a faith within ourselves. It is there, innately built in. We have faith in our future, and innately we have the faith that there is something divine. While in the East we have so much talk about the ascent; but in the West, when science challenged your faith, you did not know how Read More …

Self-Realization: The Seed of Spirituality Natura Artis Magistra, Amsterdam (Holland)

Public Program Day 2, Second Evening, The Koningszaal, Artis, Amsterdam, 2nd August 1991 I bow to all the seekers of truth. Yesterday I told you that truth cannot be felt at human awareness, and that the truth is that you are the pure Spirit. In the evolutionary process you have become a human being, but there is a little growth needed in your awareness where you become the Spirit. To start that growth you have to awaken a power within you which we call the Kundalini. Somebody should show it. (On the chart) Now this residual power is the reflection of the Holy Ghost. In the Christian religion it’s a mystery, the Holy Ghost is a mystery. Maybe because Christ came on this earth and he was here only for eight years in Israel, in that place where he was born; and then he had to go to India for twenty years. And he came back, and three and a half years only he got before people crucified Him. And as I told you, three and a half years is nothing to explain to people, because it took me four years in London to give realisation to seven hippies. It’s a headache I tell you! (Laughter) They were so argumentative and so ignorant and arrogant; I had to use all my patience and love to bring them round. So I must really give credit to Christ and the people around him who at least listened to him even these three Read More …

Talk to Dutch Sahaja Yogis, Afternoon Zaandam Ashram, Zaandam (Holland)

Shri Mataji Speaks to the Dutch Yogis, Zaandam, 2nd August 1991. 18:00 Everyone was allowed to greet Shri Mataji in person. Mother received lots of flowers, the Dutch translation of the Ascent and a table-cloth, embroidered by the Dutch ladies. She showed the children how to make paper airplanes. So I have to congratulate you all for coming to Sahaj Yoga in Holland. It’s very important. (Waiting for some people who still have to arrive) So it’s nice to see really so many people in Holland, really. I’m very happy because I was thinking we should go to Sweden, to Norway, and I always said let it be settled first in Holland. In the beginning it was so difficult but now gradually it’s settling down, and I think from yesterday’s group we might get lots of people. You see the main problem of Dutch people is this, that suddenly they got this idea into their heads that nothing is evil and nothing is wrong. Everything is alright. And that’s how it all started working here in a wrong way. And we came here much later than that, so already this idea was prevalent that nothing is wrong, everything is good. And that’s how they went to all kinds of people and drugs and, I mean, everything. Because once you start thinking that nothing is bad then you do everything; and this came out of their stupid ego that they thought of abandoning everything. But maybe it is a reaction to Read More …

You have to actualise the experience of spirituality Natura Artis Magistra, Amsterdam (Holland)

Public Programme, First Evening The Koningszaal, Artis, Amsterdam 1st August 1991 I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset, I have to say that truth is where it is. It is what it is. We cannot change it, transform it or conceptualise it. Also unfortunately, we cannot know it at this human awareness. We have to become a subtler being what we call the Spirit. Otherwise it is not possible to feel the truth. The truth is you are not this body, not this mind, nor this ego or these conditionings, but you are pure Spirit. The second truth is that there is a subtle power of divine love that does all the living work. We have never felt it. Holland is a country of flowers but we never thought how these small seeds have produced such beautiful flowers, spontaneously. The seed had the potential to sprout and the Mother Earth had the potential to make them sprout. But we take it for granted.  Look at ourselves. Look at the eyes that we have- it’s such a beautiful micro-camera. But we do not know how we have achieved this state of human awareness. From amoeba stage to this stage we have come, but we do not try to find out how. In the Zen system of Buddhism it is called as Tao, which means how. But as in every system they have lost their way to reality because of ignorance. When we find that science cannot Read More …

Public Program and Shri Mataji working on Seekers (video) Kunstcentrum Artemis, Amsterdam (Holland)

Public Program in the Koningszaal, Artis, Amsterdam, 15th July 1988 NOTE: Sri Mataji travelled by car from Belgium to Holland with the Belgian yogis who lost their way and went into Rotterdam instead of Amsterdam. When they finally arrived at the programme in Amsterdam, the local yogis had explained everything and then started giving realisation. Just as they got to the Sahasrara chakra, Sri Mataji entered the hall. Sri Mataji: “I think already some of you have got your realisation. I can feel beautiful vibrations in this place. It’s a great thing that Sahaja Yogis can give realisation; my task would be so much easier. So, I don’t think I should disturb it now any more, but I would like you to put your hands towards me like this and see if you are feeling the cool breeze in the hands. One may be hot, one may be cold, doesn’t matter, just see if you are feeling the cool breeze in your hands. Any amount of lecture is not going to give realisation. It’s a happening that has to take place. Will you please also see if you are getting a cool breeze on, or through, your fontanel bone area if you put your hands and bend your head a little. Put the left hand towards me and the right hand on top of the head. Now please put your right hand towards me, like this, and bend your head and see for yourself if there is a cool breeze Read More …

God is not for sale NH Amsterdam Grand Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam (Holland)

Public Programme (evening) in Hotel Krasnapolski, Amsterdam, 9th October 1987 I bow to all the seekers of truth. As I have been telling before, we cannot conceive the idea of truth. It cannot be a conception of human beings. It has to be felt on your central nervous system. As you can see me with your eyes and can feel me, you should be able to feel the truth. There are many wrong ideas prevalent about the truth. But all the great incarnations, all the great prophets have said that human beings have to jump one more stage in their awareness to understand the truth. This jumping or this breakthrough is a living process. We have got our human awareness through our evolution spontaneously, effortlessly, through a living process. And to go further with it, it has to be a living process, which acts spontaneously. As we have not paid anything for our evolution as human beings, we cannot pay for anything that gives us a higher life. There can be no courses about it. It’s the built-in quality within us, like a seed which sprouts by itself. We don’t make the seed go through any courses, nor do we make it stand on its head. Nor do we pay any money to the Mother Earth because she is giving us such a lot of beautiful nature. But it has not been understood so far by human beings that God is not for sale. Nobody has the business to earn Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis: How To Be Respected, Leadership The Hague Ashram, The Hague (Holland)

Talk to Sahaja Yogis, How To Be Respected, Leadership and Administration,The Hague (Holland), September 17th, 1986 Now. (Hindi aside) So. Now to, you see, to influence other people we must know how much control we have upon ourselves also; that’s very important. For example, some people, you see, have no proper image and they try to influence others, so it’s a mockery. Nobody gets influenced by such a person who himself has no image of his own. So, before working out the exterior, interior must be worked out. For example, a person who always comes late to the office, and is always delayed and has no time-sense, is never respected. So when you tell people that “you should be in time”, you should be the first to arrive at the time, right time. You must always keep the time, absolutely, you should be known person for keeping time. Say, supposing you have to go to the office at say ten o’clock, you reach office in such a way that you are there five minutes, wait outside and enter the office exactly at the time when you have to go. That punctuality is very important. That helps people, and people get an awe about you because they think that “This gentleman is so regular and I’m the one who is absolutely late”. Also, if you tell somebody that I have to meet at such and such a time, and should be arranged at such and such a time, then you should Read More …

How to stop in the present moment? Hotel Gouden Wieken, The Hague (Holland)

Public Program, Hotel “De Gouden Wieken”, The Hague, Holland, 16th September 1986 In these days of turmoil and chaos, we feel we are waiting for some sort of a big shock and maybe that our last days will appear in our life time. When we think only from the human limitations, this is quite justified. But we are not created by ourselves, nor have we become human beings by ourselves. From amoeba to this stage we have come, without doing any research or enterprise. So there must be some purpose and it has been mentioned in many scriptures, that we have to attain our eternal life. But when human beings start reflecting on concepts like this, concepts become bondages for them. These bondages work as systems and when we try to get out of those systems, we again get bound by bondages. Beyond the human concept, we have to humbly accept, there is reality. The main problem lies with our mind that we have got concepts which are limited. If you have to go to the realm of the unlimited, something has to trigger it in our awareness; something that is a living force, which is spontaneous. It cannot be that we human beings can manoeuvre it. We cannot put in efforts for it, nor can we pay for it and do all such things that human beings normally do. But in our understanding, in our human awareness, we think we can pay for everything. Let us think, how much Read More …

Bhoomi Puja/Trigunatmika Puja: Holland is the Holy Land Huis Overvoorde, Rijswijk (Holland)

Bhoomi Puja (known as Trigunatmika Puja), Overvoorde: Holland is the Holy Land. Overvoorde (Netherlands) 5 July 1985 Are, you can open the window a little bit, I think. It will be better. One window will do. They are all closed. One window you can. They are opened as much as they will, Shri Mataji. Really? That’s all that can be opened? They have all arrived, so we’ll wait for two minutes for them. Tell them to come from the other side. Can somebody go and tell? When you are taking photographs I’ll not have this. Better, then I’ll have it later. You must take the right angle and right time. I find, some people take exactly the wrong angle and the wrong time. Yes, where you get the vibrations, that’s the point you must click. That’s it. And because you just take it at a wrong time, photographs do not come out well for some people. Vibrations will tell you when to take. I took photographs of some people and their vibrations stated flowing. It’s all related. Come along, we’ve been waiting for you! [unclear] has not come? That’s o.k. Shri Mother. Actually we left her or otherwise we would have been too late. Oh, God ! But she will do a little Puja at home by herself, she said. S.M. – But where is she? Y – At home. And I had to go to fetch Warren in Gent and I learned the Puja was earlier… Why didn’t you Read More …

The Guru Supermarket Huis Overvoorde, Rijswijk (Holland)

Public Program day 2, Garden of Overvoorde mansion house, Overvoorde (Holland), 4 July 1985. Sri Mataji: Hello, please be seated. (To yogi giving introduction) Have you finished? Yogi: Shall I continue a little bit? Sri Mataji: You finish it, yes. (Yogi finishes the introduction in Dutch) I bow to all the seekers of truth. Yesterday in My lecture and afterwards, the impression I got about Holland, I must tell you very frankly. And you shouldn’t mind, because I am a Holy Mother. I am your Mother and I will not tell you any lies, nor will I support anything wrong that you have been doing. If you are a mother, you will understand Me better. If the mother sees the child is doing wrong she will tell, whether the child likes it or not, because the child is yet not matured, is not grown up, he doesn’t understand. There is nothing to gain for Me; I have to just give you. So those who are real gurus, I’ll praise them; but who are not, I will say they’re “antichrist”. But if you are honest and if you understand My earnestness to save you, you must not mind that. You get identified with a person, for nothing at all. What did you get yourself? You must think, did you get your realization? Did you feel your collective consciousness? Can you talk like this, the way he’s talking? Do you know all that, what he knows? Or like sheep, you are following Read More …

Interview for “Het Binnenhof” Newspaper Conferentieoord Overvoorde, Rijswijk (Holland)

Interview journalist; “Het Binnenhof” Newspaper, Overvoorde, The Hague, Holland, 4th July 1985 Shri Mataji: The man who was here. He has been to all these fake gurus. He has seen all that nonsense. He has seen everything. It is very easy for him to see me now, because you see if you have not been to all these then you start… you cannot understand it so well. So that’s a very big point about it. G: He said there is a book called Spiritual Superman. Shri Mataji: (Laughing.) Yes, he himself told me. G: We have to find out. (Short discussion about a book) Shri Mataji: So. Journalist: So well I may resemble a little bit to this colleague journalist of mine in this sense that I have also been searching and I have had a little bit of practice with transcendental meditation and I went to “Baghwan” in the United States and read the books of Krishnamurti and so on. Sri Mataji: So you are also alright! (Laughing) Ah, I saw it. That’s better. Then you can see the contrast. The reality is very different. Journalist: But I, up till now, I find some beauty in all of these movements. Shri Mataji: It’s a camouflage. Of course they have to beautify otherwise they can’t attract; very clever, very professional. Like in India, they wanted to smuggle whisky and they used Gita books. (Editor: The Bhagavad Gita – an Indian holy book.) They made Gita books, you see, beautiful Gita Read More …

Interview for “Trouw” Newspaper Conferentieoord Overvoorde, Rijswijk (Holland)

Interview journalist; Dr. Kranenburg, “Trouw” Newspaper, Overvoorde, The Hague, Holland, 4th July 1985 Journalist: I received some books and papers from you and I heard you yesterday evening in that congress hall. Sri Mataji: Did you? Journalist: I was there yes. Sri Mataji: I hope I didn’t hurt anyone. Journalist: And I liked to read it and to see what it is because I am interested in such things. Sri Mataji: Yes, one should be. Very important! Journalist: And I sometimes write about it in the newspapers and… Sri Mataji: That’s it. Journalist: And they asked me to think about it first… (Interruption) I have many questions, I hope you… They are different kinds. Sri Mataji: Yes, yes I don’t mind. I don’t mind. Journalist: But first I was speaking here with some of your friends and I asked; what is the difference between your method and other methods…? Sri Mataji: Of yogas? Journalist: Yes Sri Mataji: No, there is no difference at all. But I don’t think anybody has studied the entire thing in modern times. I mean, it’s just a wee bit of it here and there, you see. So it shows no integration but it’s all integrated, something that Patanjali wrote himself. Patanjali wrote. Journalist: Patanjali. Sri Mataji: Now, I don’t know how many have read the real Patanjali. Maybe, it’s such a big book, Patanjali’s “Yoga Shastra”. And yoga means to be one with the divine. There is no other meaning to it. Also it means Read More …

A new awareness: self-realisation Het Nederlands Congresgebouw (World Forum), The Hague (Holland)

First Public Programme day 1 in Holland, Het Congressgebouw, The Hague, Holland, 3rd July 1985 I bow to all the seekers of truth. I’m very sorry for being late today because they miscalculated the time that it will take to reach this place. We are talking about truth. Truth that we know of cannot be conceptualised, cannot be mentally understood. We have to know that truth is beyond mental conception. If we believe that this piece is hot, or this piece is cold, (pointing to the microphone) it’s just our mental idea. But we have to feel it, experience it. The truth has to be known on your central nervous system. It should not be just a conception that; “I’m very happy. I’m very joyous. I’m very blissful. I have found the truth.”, because truth can only be found out through our evolutionary process. We cannot achieve it through our human awareness. Human awareness is limited and whatever we do through our human awareness is also limited. If we have to ascend higher, we have to have a higher awareness, a superior awareness. This has been described thousands of years back in India and all over the world. Many great incarnations, prophets, all over the world have been talking about this awareness; this new awareness that we call self-realisation. In the name of these prophets and incarnations many religions were formed, organised, but I think they all missed the point. They missed the point that you have to be something higher; you have Read More …