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Public Program Victoria Hall, Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Program. Victoria Hall, Geneva (Switzerland), 8 July 1994. At the very outset I have to tell you that truth is what it is. You cannot mold it, you cannot change it. It is always the same. It has been the same, it is the same, it will be the same. But to say that we know the truth and that we have the truth is really a self-deception. If you had known the absolute truth there would have been no problems and everybody would have said the same thing. There would be no discussions, no arguments, no fights and wars. But when we don’t know the absolute truth then we can find out our own mental conceptions as the truth. But this mind is so limited. How far can you go with it? Even science cannot answer many questions. It cannot say why are we on this Earth. It cannot explain why we evolved to human beings. So far this answer has [returned?] to religion, and to reason [NOT CLEAR] that truth is mental. It’s such a frustration when you see in the name of religion, in the name of God, what people are doing is something we never expected. The religion has to be Spirit-oriented, but it is only power-oriented or money-oriented. In the original scriptures, or we can say in the origin of this religion was the truth. And all these religions bloom on the same play of spirituality like beautiful flowers at different times, but people Read More …

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Public Program Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Program, Geneva, Switzerland, 08-07-1993 I bow to all the seekers of truth at the very outset. One has to know that truth is what it’s, we cannot purchase it. We cannot conceptualise it. We have to feel, we have to experience it. Also, only those who are seekers of truth will find it. Those who do not want to seek the truth and are satisfied with themselves, it cannot happen. One has to be truthful seekers and honest and must have a pure desire to seek the truth. Now, whatever I’m going to tell you today, you don’t have to accept it as blindly people, but keep your mind open like a scientist and if it works out, then you have to believe as honest people because this is for the emancipation, a whole human race because it is the solution for all our problems. It is for the benevolent of human beings. It’s the fulfilment of the promises given to us by all incarnations and it is the last breakthrough of our evolution, but it cannot work out for people who are conditioned, not can it work out on people who are egotistical and an aggressive when asked to accept that we do not have the truth. We do not have the solutions with that humility, only you can achieve this real state of awareness. It’s as you see here is a subtle centre placed. It’s a subtle system which all of you have. All of you have Read More …

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One has to rise above your physical, emotional and mental side University of Geneva, Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Program. Geneva (Switzerland), 24 August 1992. Shri Mataji: It’s all right, it’s ? I don’t need, I don’t need. It’s all right. Shri Mataji: You can ask them, all of them, to sit; I think there are chairs here and there. Standing, what you can see here also? On the, on the? they can come on the stage. It’s a big stage, you know. They can come here, on the stage. Please come. I bow to all the seekers of Truth. At the very outset, at the very outset, we have to know that truth is what it is. We cannot think about it, we cannot read about it and we cannot conceptualize it. And also unfortunately at this human awareness we cannot feel it; we cannot know it. One has to rise above your physical, emotional and mental side. We have reached a stage of this human awareness through our evolution, but we do not know the absolute truth. This is the reason why there are so many theories coming up, so many dogmas, and there are fights, wars, all kinds of problems in this world. Thanks to Mr. Gorbachev that the political wars may not take place. But fundamentalism is the biggest problem today. And we do not know how they work out their fundamentalism on our minds. It is very important now to understand because this is going to be the greatest problem for us and for our children. To get over the fundamentalism, the only Read More …

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10th Day of Navaratri, The deities are watching you Geneva (Switzerland)

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Navaratri Puja, “The deities are watching you”. Arzier, Geneva (Switzerland), 23 September 1990. According to the calendar, this year there are ten days of Navaratri, not of nine. Nine are the days, in the night, when the Goddess had to fight the demons and to save Her children from the effects of negativity. On one side She was ocean of love and compassion, and on the other side She was protecting them like a tigress; because the times were such that nobody could meditate, nobody could take the name of God, nobody could think even of Self-Realisation. But those who are sitting here today, you have been there also in those days, and you were all saved for today, for this day, so that you can achieve your Self-Realisation. The form of the Goddess in those days was not maya swarupi. She was in Her real form and that created a great awe, even among the disciples. So the question of giving them Self-Realisation was not there. First of all they were to be saved. So, like nine months the mother has to keep the child in her womb, for these nine months or you can say nine yugas, nine times, you all have been saved properly, and on the tenth month you are given your birth. Also this birth is always after seven days of nine months. So we had to wait for some time till it matures. Now the tenth Navaratri today is to celebrate actually the Adi Read More …

TV Interview Geneva (Switzerland)

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TV Interview. Geneva (Switzerland), 10 August 1989. [The interviewer speaks in Italian to Guido who translates the question to Shri Mataji.]Guido: What is a seeker, please?Shri Mataji: Seeker is a special category of human beings which are born in these modern times – whom William Blake* has clearly described. And he said that men of God, at these times they will be born, and they will know divinity, and they will have power to make others also. Very clearly, he said it, William Blake*. Guido: What is Your opinion about Jung?Shri Mataji: Jung? Jung was the one, he was the same as Blake, a seeker himself, of truth. So, he didn’t accept Freud. And he thought that there was something wrong with him. He has trained also in philosophy and I think he did go to India. Not only that but he got his Realization. And after getting Self-realization, he wrote about Collective Consciousness. He wrote so many things, which we can now feel it ourselves. And he was a man who gave good pictures of what will happen to a person when he once gets Self-realization. I should say we should be very much obliged to him for giving us the truth. It was not just a mental projection, but it was a capture training of his own evolution. Guido: As you may know Jung was a Swiss man. Do you have any particular message for Swiss people?Shri Mataji: You see, Jung saw that people were seeing images in Read More …

Public Program Geneva (Switzerland)

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1989 – 0810 Public Program Geneva Switzerland I bow to all the seekers of Truth. As I told you yesterday about the all-pervading power of God’s love, that is fort is described by Yung who was a Swiss as the collective unconscious. So, in Switzerland already it has been established that there is a power which is a subtle power which does all the living work. Now, how are we to feel of this power is very important. As I told you yesterday that it is a living process within us which takes you to that state where you can feel the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost. You cannot pay for it, and you cannot force it. It has to be in a way that you are seeking the Truth and the grace of the Holy Ghost wakes up this power of Kundalini which is the power of pure desire within you. So, you cannot maneuver, you cannot manage it, you cannot manipulate it, nor can you create it. It is already there built-in within you which has to work. Now all human beings have this power within themselves. And the awakening takes place without any problem. One saint Rama Dasa was asked, how much time it takes for the Kundalini to Raise? He said ‘Tatkshan’ means that moment, that moment. But he clarified it is not meant for ‘moodhas’ means stupid idiotic people. And it is not meant for the people who are not really seeking the Truth Read More …

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Public Program (Self-Realization Part) Geneva (Switzerland)

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1989-08-09 Public Program Self-Realisation, Geneva, Switzerland … I mean to say that you should not feel guilty at all. Because, logically, what do we do if we feel guilty ? Make ourself miserable! that’s all! And after all we are human beings – only human beings can make mistakes. We are not gods! Moreover, this Divine Power I’m talking about is the ocean of forgiveness: so, what mistakes can you commit that it cannot dissolve? Second condition is that you have to forgive everyone. Now some may say it’s difficult to forgive. Now, logically, what do we do if we forgive or don’t forgive? What do we do? Nothing! What we do really, is to torture ourselves. We play in the hands of wrong people, and this centre then (Shri Mataji puts Her hand on Her forehead) catches very badly, and it’s a narrow door, the Kundalini stops. Then how can I give you Realisation? You are not going to miss your Realisation by not forgiving people, that means we play more into their hands, that you miss such an opportunity. I hope you are convinced now for both the conditions are absolutely important because we have to enter into the ocean of joy. The religion of Sahaja yoga is to know yourself and to enjoy. No austerities, no sacrifices, no crucifixion, nothing! You yourself will know what is enjoyable and what is not enjoyable. So I hope you will comply with these two conditions first and be pleasantly placed towards Read More …

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You have to become a saint Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public program, Geneva (Switzerland), 12 August 1988. I bow to all the seekers of truth. As I told you yesterday that we have to know the truth on our central nervous system. That is why in every scripture, it is written that, “You are to be born again”. You are to be born again, in the sense, a happening has to take place within you. And this happening should give you the Self-knowledge. In every religion, whether it is Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Sikh, Zardust religion called as the Parsis follow, every religion has said that there has to be this happening within you. In Islam, it is said very clearly as I told you yesterday, that at the time of Qyamma, that is resurrection, your hands will speak. So much has been written about Qyamma, the promise day of resurrection. And that you have to become the ‘waliy’ [saint], you have to become a saint. But as I told you yesterday, in every religion, people have plugged the flowers which were living, and now are living with the dead flowers, fighting with each other. Even the animals don’t fight that bad as the human beings fight. And how can it be? Those who are religious fight worse than anybody else. This has really brought such bad name to the Divine Power, to the righteous behaviour, to the pure love of the Divine. A lady asked Me in Italy, “Mother, how can You be a Mother, Grand-mother, wife and looking after Read More …

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The Time of Resurrection Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Program. Geneva (Switzerland), 11 August 1988. I bow to all the seekers of truth. The seekers of truth is a very special category of people. They’ve existed in all the centuries before also. And you find glimpses of that in many literary work. Today I read a book written by [Ayalahu ?] from Spain who was there in 1906. And he had described a seeker of truth how he became a saint. William Blake* from England, about hundred years back he lived, has said that, “The time will come when many seekers of truth will be born. They are the men of God, they will be transformed, and they will have powers to transform others”. This transformation is what we call, is the birth which takes place second time. It is not just a certificate we should have, from some institution that we are born again. Or we have become a twice born person, as we call in India a Brahmin, who thinks that he is really baptized. But the real baptism is a happening. Recently there has been a very beautiful discovery of Saint Thomas’s writings who was a disciple of Christ and on his way to India, he wrote a beautiful description of what a saint should be, and what Christ wanted us to be, in a very large book, and put it in a jar in Egypt. This book was recovered only 48 years back and has been again deciphered by a very good gentleman who Read More …

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Attitude of seeking and Workshop Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Program, Geneva (Switzerland), 5 October 1987. As I told you, these are modern times. And in modern times this en masse-realisation was to take place. That was to happen. In modern times only, when people get frustrated, when they get lost, they don’t know what to do, when they are deceived and cheated, then they start looking for something that is the support. This attitude of seeking was never before so much as it is today. This attitude of finding out the Truth never existed before. And this tremendous true desire to find out something beyond human life was never that in the masses.So they are now a special category of people, a special type of people who have developed this inner sense to find out the Truth. Of course, in contrast to that, we have many more crooks these days than we ever had, many more evil people and money-makers and also we have a trend of mind which is after self-destruction. So, it’s a serious thing that happens. When a person finds he is getting lost in the mire, whatever he gets hold of he clings onto it to save himself. It could be something more dangerous than mire.So this kind of attitude and this kind of new dimension in your awareness starts expressing itself and it shows much more sharply because of the bad background that it has. Because of the contrast we see and we feel that today’s world is such a chaotic world, full Read More …

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The Truth that we understand it can not be our concept Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public program, Geneva, Switzerland, 10-05-1987 [Lecture starts at 22:30 minutes] I bow to all the seekers of truth. The truth that we understand, it cannot be our concept. It is what it is. We cannot change it. And when we try to say this is truth after sometime it gets proved that it is not. The truth is eternal. It doesn’t change and the truth has to be felt on your central nervous system. For example, you all see I am sitting here on a couch with a green coloured cover. You see it with your eyes, through your central nervous system you know, this is it, everybody knows it. But do you know the divine truth? You have to have divine eyes. You have to have the divine ears. And you have to have divine nerves. Your central nervous system has to be enlightened. Without that if you say there is no God, it means you are very unscientific. Without a microscope if you say there are no cells, you are being unscientific. If you are scientific you have to be honest and open-minded. You should not reach certain conclusions. Because you think, because you understand through your mental process.  There are so many things which human beings cannot explain. They cannot do much either. We cannot even create an atom of any element. We try to feel that we are very great, we have achieved lot of things. But all these things that we have achieved was out Read More …

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All great Incarnations are just one Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Program. Geneva (Switzerland), 13 June 1985. I bow to all the seekers of truth. We are here to know about the truth. First through our mental understanding and then through our experience, to prove everything that you have heard so far. But the minds are very conditioned. Like in India, when you talk about Christ to Hindus, say that Christ is based and placed in the Agnya chakra, they think that I’m trying to spread Christianity, because I was born in a Christian family. But when people talk about the deities on the chakras, which is a fact, people in the West start thinking they are talking about Hindu philosophy. But one must know that are all related to each other. Christ Himself has said in the Bible that: “Those who are not against us are with us”. Who are those? Actually the most unfortunate thing is that Christ was not allowed to speak more than three and a half years. I’ve been coming to Switzerland for four years and I have been telling [UNCLEAR] before talking about the deities. Because I know the conditioning of the Western mind. They will never try to understand that there is something beyond what they know from the missionaries. It is a very difficult situation but I think the Sahaja Yogis feel the emergency. They feel that it is now necessary to start talking about the truth plainly to everyone. If they do not want to come in, all right. But at Read More …

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The Truth Has Two Sides Geneva (Switzerland)

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Geneva Public programme 11th June 1985 ‘The Truth has Two Sides’  I bow to all the seekers of truth. But the truth has two sides: the illusion that we see can look like truth, and the essence of the illusion also may appear to be truth. But the other side is absolute and has to be felt, has to be experienced on your central nervous system. It’s not a mental projection that we can think of, nor emotional imagination, but truth is what it is, it cannot be changed. It cannot compromise. We have to humble down ourselves to know the truth. Now we have discovered so many things in the science, by humility that we have not known so far. But whatever is known outside, like the tree, must have roots, and these roots are not known if you are just looking at the tree. And when somebody talks about the roots, we get shaken up because we have had no knowledge of it before. Thus we are conditioned to only see the tree, and we cannot make our mind understand that there must be some roots to it. So we can say that people have advanced in science quite a lot, and have progressed and have become developed countries. But they do not know, if they do not seek their roots they will be completely destroyed. Now when I’m before you, one should not in any way feel that I’m here to offend you, but I’ve come here Read More …

Do not seek the Truth through mental projections Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Programme Day 1. Geneva (Switzerland), 28 August 1984. At The Human Level We Try To Seek Truth Through Our Mental Projection I bow to all the seekers of Truth. I’m sorry, I could not come yesterday and I hope today we’ll be able to do something for ourselves. When we talk of Truth, we have to know that at the human level we try to seek Truth through our mental projection or through our emotional understanding. The other day I met the president of the Jungian Society in America and he told Me that he was sitting on a cut trunk of a tree and he just thought that, “I should try to know the roots and thus I will know the sap.” I said, “How will you know the roots when you have just mental capacity?” He said, “With mental capacity you can go down into the subtler side and go down and you can understand the roots.” I said, “By your mental projection it’s all imaginary knowledge you have.” So to get to the roots you have to become a subtler personality. So one must know that Truth is much subtler than our gross understanding and to know the Truth we have to be subtler personality. At this gross level we understand what our ego tells us, or our mental projection tells us, or our conditioning tells us. And so when we read too much about the subtler life, we think we know what subtle life is. Read More …

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When you become the spirit, actualization takes place Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Program Day 3, Geneva, Switzerland, 31.08.1983 I Bow to all the seekers of Truth Within us lies the truth, it is said in all the scriptures, where does it lie? Nobody has told so far exactly where it lies. You must have realized from Armour’s lecture that he is Swiss, and he has become such an expert on Kundalini Yoga. There are many young people, very young, who come to Sahaja Yoga, and within a month, they can speak on truth. It is the actualization of the truth that is important. It is the becoming that is important. It is not reading or knowing it from outside, but becoming one with the truth. Whatever we can see outside, is outside us, but when we become that it acts. It shows its power. But so far in the human endeavor, there is nothing that can really give analogy of actualization. For example, somebody becomes the president, still he can lose his job. He may manifest his powers which are bestowed upon him, but he may be wrong. He may make mistakes. He may do exactly what he is not supposed to do. He would not know absolute truth. But when you become the spirit, actualization takes place. As I told you the other day, it is not branding yourself that you are twice born, that you are a realized soul, that you are a very religious person or a righteous person, but you become. It is the becoming. For example, Read More …

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The roots of human beings Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Program Day 2. Geneva (Switzerland), 30 August 1983. I bow to all the seekers of truth. Yesterday we saw the general aspect of Sahaja Yoga and how these modern times are connected to the future and to the past. Because if it is a living process of evolution then it is a continuous process intermittent with transformations. But we human beings believe that whatever we achieve through our mental projection is the transformation. For example, when we started to establish our kingdoms, we thought that monarchy will solve the problem and we adhered to it very much. Later on, we thought it’s better to have democracy, or some people thought we should have communism. Some people thought that Christianity would work out. Others thought that Islam might work out. Some thought it was Buddhism that is going to help us and some thought it is some other religion will help us, like Jainism or Zen. Now, if you really see all these human endeavors from a detached mind, you will find that there is something missing in them. There are psychologists who said that it is the sex energy which is important and we should not be conditioned. So, they used their ego to express themselves without any conditioning. And the others who believed that it is the will power that is important and you must develop your will power. But one should know that truth cannot be two. It has to be absolute. And the point at which Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis Geneva (Switzerland)

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis during Entertainment Programme, 30 August 1983, Geneva, Switzerland [Beginning is missing]Shri Mataji: Tannay, is the holy land [in Sanskrit].Gregoire: [Translates in French: I’m speaking to all the Sahaja Yogis who have met in this beautiful place of Tannay, which in Sanskrit means the place, the square, the holy place.]Shri Mataji: The roads –Marie: Mother, actually this place is called “Holy Land” also in French.Shri Mataji: That’s what I am saying. It’s a fact. And the street which has cool breeze [chemin du Joran], is such an expression of the Unconscious as to what we are going to do in this place. Even when you get your Realisation, you are still sometimes in a growing stage up to a point. Like you are nourished by the Mother Earth all the time but you are not aware of it. In the same way, the womb of Sahaja Yoga nourishes you to grow up into beautiful beings. Still, you have to come up to a point, when it has to click in such a way that you start feeling the awareness of that abounding love. In the small children, it clicks very fast because they are so innocent and uncomplicated. And in some people also I have seen it clicks very fast as soon as they get their Realisation. But in some people, they have some more ego trips left to be finished. So, they come to me. I find they are flying in the air like bubbles. And Read More …

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Human consciousness is a product of a living process Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Program Day 1, 29 August 1983, Geneva, Switzerland I bow to all the seekers of truth. Every moment has got a past and a future. Everything has got a history and a future that is going to follow. Today we are here at this moment and we have to look at every problem in relation to this time. The understanding of consciousness has to be understood in all its aspect, and at this period of complete integration it is easy to relate it to every movement of our mind. The evolutionary process has created a human consciousness within us, and this human consciousness is a product of a living process, and a living process is to be understood in its own nature. I was very happy to see the picture of these trees on these flags, because they denote or express the living process. To understand the living process we can look at the trees. A seed sprouts into a plant by a living process. If we want to do it, we cannot do it. The leaves burst out into flowers later, and the flowers become the fruits because of the living force that is acting in it. We human beings cannot do anything like that. We can’t even produce one living leaf, but we take everything for granted, as we are taking our human consciousness also for granted, but the living process, whatever it does, is spontaneous and cannot be done by us, the human beings who are Read More …

Radio Interview Geneva (Switzerland)

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Shri Mataji: [? but] important that we still linger on with other trips, like [? ego trips)]. So if somebody talks big we believe him. These people are money-oriented and they have lots of money and they can put in advertisements and we get impressed by [unclear]. Recently, to My surprise, I discovered that in England they have something called “chequebook journalism”.  Sahaja Yogi (to Swiss translator): It means that the journalist – I don’t know if it’s true – that there is payment made to journalists for reporting according to what they personally want.  Shri Mataji: That’s the phrase they use, chequebook journalism.  Swiss translator (to Shri Mataji): He (a man speaking French) asks – in Geneva it is the first time that he saw such a publicity for a personality like You. All the advertisements, papers in the [letterbox] and very big posters all over the place, and he said: “This cost lots of money.”  Shri Mataji: No, it did not. What happened [was] that we did not pay to anyone. Luckily, the authorities allowed us to quickly [unclear]. But we didn’t give anybody under the table any money.  Sahaja Yogi: Printing costs [unclear]. Shri Mataji: Also there are so many Sahaja Yogis all over the world, for example these people from Australia were sending some posters for America.  But I will tell you about how the gurus work. You see what they do, they [? get to] some journalist, give them a large amount of money, to Read More …

Radio 74 Interview Geneva (Switzerland)

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1983-08-24 Radio 74 Interview (Geneva) Part 1 and 2. Lady interviewer:  Could you join me now in a very cordial and very special welcome to Shri Mataji.  A great welcome to You. Shri Mataji:  Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Lady interviewer:  In the.. in the country of India, I know that there is much talk of… the word ‘enlightenment’ is used in a way that perhaps we of this world don’t fully understand.   Would that be a place to start, that You talk to us a little bit about enlightenment and then go into Your own message? Shri Mataji:  Yes.  India has a special advantage over many other countries, as far as the nature is concerned, because the nature of our country is such that people don’t have to worry so much of combating the nature.  It’s warm country, and it has… it’s a very fertile country and it doesn’t require too much for you to exist in that place.  You can even exist under a tree.  It’s a …you can lead a very, very simple life in India and you need not have all the [elaborations] we  need here to fight the nature.  As a result of that, many people who were quite satisfied with their mundane lives took to deeper seeking – thousands of years back – in that country, where they wanted to find out the secrets of life, and they wanted to know why we are on this earth and why we Read More …

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Love is the Solution Temple de la Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Program in Geneva (Switzerland), 25 August 1982. Shri Mataji: When the Spirit manifests within us, then this joy becomes active within us. First of all, our maladies disappear. Because our Spirit is the source of the white cells. Or we can say, is the connection between human attention and the Divine Power. When the connection is loose, the vibrations become a little difficult – sometimes they appear, they disappear – till the person establishes himself.  The first thing that happens to human beings when your Kundalini is raised to this stage (the Agnya), is that you become peaceful and the thoughts that are bombarding your brain disappear. Now, if you want to think, you can think or you need not think. There is complete rest and peace in your mind. So when the Kundalini comes out of your head and starts flowing regularly after establishment, you can give realisations to others.  Those who got realisations yesterday were today giving realisation to people in Geneva. One little girl wanted to test a gentleman who had been doing some sort of black magic. Suddenly her thumb started becoming (hot). And she showed Me, “Mother, the thumb is trembling”. This thumb indicates authorised, unauthorised working of the mind. All those people who preach, gospel or talk of God without getting realisation have this left Swadishthana.  This forehead is not to be bowed to anybody else but to an incarnation. And those who bow this head to a person who is not an Read More …

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When Christ Will Come (Follow-up) Temple de la Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Program Day 3 follow up, Temple de la Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland) 25-08-1982 Shri Mataji: I am told that some of you have come for the first time for the program here. Now, for the people who have come  for the first time, they have to first get their Realisation. That is very important. Now, today I am feeling the atmosphere, today, I think some of you have come from places, who have been to people who are doing black magic maybe or some sort of a thing like that, or ESP or psychology, or to some false gurus. Some of you. And also that there are people who are feeling guilty. If you are feeling guilty, then there is catch on this finger [showing Vishuddhi finger]. But, if you are catching from people who have been to black magic and fake gurus and all that, then you catch on this finger and this thumb. [showing fingers of left Agnya and left Swadishthan]. Also, I think there are people who are already feeling the vibrations. So we have people of all types. I am happy you have brought your children. Because I am very happy with the children. There are many children born, who are realised souls. And they don’t understand human beings who do not have that level. And that’s a big problem. Moreover when these children grow up, they take to new seeking, in which they fall a trap to drugs or false gurus, or some sort of Read More …

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When Christ Will Come Temple de la Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Program Day 2,  “When Christ Will Come”, Temple de la Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland), 24 August 1982 Again, I bow today to the seekers of truth. From the very beginning, I have to say, that I would like to address to all those who are really seeking the truth. I am not going just to read something to you and give My own interpretation about it. All of you have got sufficient intelligence to read any book you like and to have your own interpretation. We have so many interpretations of the Holy Bible, that it is amazing, how people, do not understand, that when they have their own interpretation, it could be wrong. For example, our great leader in our country, Mahatma Gandhi, was once asked by a Christian to become a Christian. He said, “Why don’t you become officially a Christian?” And he laughed aloud and he said, “I would like to, but, please, tell me what should I become, should be a Catholic or a Protestant or I should to be another sect of Protestants”. Especially, the Protestants have so many sects, like Pentecostals. They have got Seventh Day Adventists. They have got Methodists. They have another one – what is that called as, Penta – I mean, so many like that. So he asked, “Which one should I join?” If you tell me exactly which one to join, I would like to join. And he had no answer to it. So, there is some sort of a gap Read More …

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The function of the liver Temple de la Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Program, Day 2 (morning) , Geneva, Switzerland, 24-08-1982 So today we have to find out people who came yesterday and felt the cool breeze. New people who came yesterday and felt the cool breeze, please raise your hands. Now all the others, inclusive of you, please put your hands again [UNCLEAR]. Now also see, looking at Me, if you can become thoughtless. If not, you have to say – Mother, I forgive everyone – that’s [UNCLEAR]. Say it from your heart. Are you thoughtless now? Those who are not, just close your eyes. Now see on your head if there’s cool breeze coming. If there is a hot breeze coming, if there is heat coming out of your head, then you must know that there is some obstruction within you. You must again say – Mother, I forgive everyone – because you know Christ has given us this weapon. You should go and say – Mother, I forgive everyone, forgive everyone. Whatever is said, is absolute truth, but we must know the subtle side of Christ, otherwise, we never [UNCLEAR/understand Him] if we just read something about Him.   Is it cooler now? Or still hot? If it is hot, then put your left hand on the liver. Put your right hand towards Me and the left hand on the liver. [Pointing to somebody – Other way round]. Look at me, right hand towards Me and left hand on the liver.  Translator – Everybody or only those who feel the Read More …

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Lunch and Public Program Temple de la Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland)

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Public Program Day 1. Temple Fusterie, Geneva (Switzerland), 23 August 1982. I bow to all the seekers of truth. It is such a great fortune that I should be given this opportunity to face so many seekers of truth in this international city of Geneva. There has been never such times, such great times, where you have seekers who were just trying to find out the truth, the self-knowledge, the Spirit, and were not satisfied with anything else. This seeking that has come today is so much exposed and manifesting. It is the work of thousands of years of the seers and prophets. In this materialistic advancement, when we have gone too far, the Tree of Life has grown too much and it must find its source to sustain itself. With this background, we are here today to know about the truth that we have to find within ourselves. All the scriptures, whether it is Bible, Koran, or any Indian scripture, even Lao Tse or if we go to Zen or Buddha, Mahavira, all of them have said that you are to be reborn. Those who have talked about the rebirth, traditionally, I think in India people have really worked very deeply, in meditative way, to find out what are we to find. The existence of this primordial power within ourselves – called as Kundalini, in the triangular bone – was known to ancient seers for thousands of years. This is not a new knowledge which I am telling you Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis: Christianity House of Matthias, Geneva (Switzerland)

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Talk to Sahaja Yogis about Christianity, Mathias’ House, Switzerland, 1982-08-21 But if you look at the crualty [Unclear] You should see the vibrations. Just tremendous vibrations! You know, I’ve seen [unclear]. In the end, there were two persons standing, and one of them was a pastor who was standing, was he?Sahaja Yogini: Yes. There was somebody standing, towards the end.Shri Mataji: Who was wearing a blue suits.Sahaja Yogi: Yes.

Talk to Sahaja Yogis: On Investments House of Matthias, Geneva (Switzerland)

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Conversation at Matthias’ apartment, Geneva, 1982-08-21 Shri Mataji: Very powerful. But for this incident and this church, I would never have said all these things. [unclear] But it cannot [unclear] vibrations. Sahaja Yogi: It’s quite powerful! [Laughter] Gregoire: Magda told me that she heard somebody going out saying, “I admire this person for the courage with which She is speaking.” That to speak like that about Swiss bank in the country of Europe. [Laughter] [Applause] Shri Mataji: In India all the ministers, even our Prime minister who has made this kind of money have put it in this bank of yours. They must know that they are helping the thugs. It’s a fact. What can you do? I mean, if there is a bank to keep their money, they will have. Sahaja Yogi: Actually, Mother the whole economy, very much the economy of Geneva is based on that because these people, they travel frequently to Geneva and they stay in hotels, they bring the family. The restaurants make money, and the hotel makes money. It’s very much all linked to the prosperity of this city. Shri Mataji: Very much. Sahaja Yogi: I remember customers of ours, with whom we worked, who also have black money here. When they come here for [unclear] they come for the bank. Not that much to meet, to come to our company but for the banks. Shri Mataji: You see, anybody who has white money will never put in the bank, I can tell you Read More …

The Last Judgment has started Geneva (Switzerland)

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Geneva 2.10.80 The Last Judgement Sahaja Yogi: Mother I would not try to talk to You. May I ask You… Shri Mataji: They were very interested in your talk, [you know] [unclear]. Sahaja Yogi: I think I’ll carry on with translating. Shri Mataji: He spoke very well because you were so much interested; I could see that. Sahaja Yogi: I’m not translating this. Shri Mataji: And you could see from his heart, he feels so much for Switzerland… [French] Shri Mataji: I would say he is a real Swiss. He feels such concern about his fellow-being. Shri Mataji: We are all the seekers of truth. Today there is a big urge to seek the truth, because the Last Judgment has started. There were never so many seekers before. Very few used to seek and extremely few used to receive. But the blossom time has come and so many of them have to become the fruits. That is the plan of God Almighty. We have to see how Switzerland faces it. When we are seeking the truth we must know what we are and what we have to seek. The first premises must be that we are not yet there, where we should be. There is something missing. Now in a country like Switzerland where there is so much of affluence and people are very settled, still one finds that such a great rate of suicide exists in this country. Now every country has its own problems, but in that problem  Read More …

Pure Intelligence Geneva (Switzerland)

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Pure Intelligence, Public Program, 1980-04-29, Genève, Switzerland “(…) Even by blindly accepting it you have not been able to solve your problems. If we could put our attention to this question that there must be some meaning to us and that there must be some arrangement within us to manifest that meaning: you are with Me. It is very easy to deny and defy everything intellectually and intelligence gives you a capacity to cheat yourself all the time. Not only that: a capacity to avoid if you are facing the Truth. It can provide any argument – which may be absurd if you see it later on – to convince you that reality is this, what you see with your gross attention. But the pure intelligence is that which sees the game of this intellect and that which sees the limited function of rationality. I am here talking to you about unlimited space. I am going to put forward before you a hypothesis, which, as good scientists or intelligent people you must keep your mind open and try to absorb it. If it is proved then you have to accept. There lies the real bravery of intellect. If intellect teaches you cowardice it is not intellect. So I have to put forward before you: what is within us, which resides as our subtle being? First of all, let us understand that we are made something like a spacecraft. You can also see how a seed sprouts: that from a seed the Read More …