Shri Chandrama Puja

Vaitarna (India)

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Shri Chandrama Puja, Vaitarna (India), 18 February 1984.

Talk just before Puja

It was such a joyful procession today, in the evening hours when we call it as Goraj muhoorta in the Sanskrit language, meaning when the cows are returning home, the dust from their feet rises and makes a beautiful atmosphere, and we call it as Goraj muhoorta – is the auspicious time. And so today at a very auspicious time we have had a beautiful, joyful procession, and you must have realized that the people of this country has no inhibitions about things. They just get transformed and electrified immediately as soon as they start expressing their joy. They don’t have inhibitions, neither they’re shy nor do they have to think about it – of all age groups.

And I must say that Maharashtra has done such a lot of traditional training for Sahaja Yoga. All the different types of dancings and things you have seen are all traditional dancing of Maharashtra, and I also used to do the same things and we used to play many things called zimma fugadi and all those things, but some of you, you have seen. But this we, our body is used to this, and the lezim which the girls were playing I have also learnt. All of us are supposed to learn all these games from childhood, as if they were all prepared for this great day when there will be the advent of Adi Shakti.

Traditionally they are so built, and I am so happy you all have also tried to understand the decent type of expression. If you see the balance of the body and the balance of the whole gesture is very divine, it doesn’t have anything that is ridiculous or vulgar. It has very, very deep expression if you see, and if you also try to express yourself that way, you see, all the inhibitions and the conditionings and the funny ideas about gesticulations will disappear.

Moreover, the whole atmosphere is very pure here, and we are away from the madding crowd, away from all that nonsense that we have been going through, and it’s a very, very blissful place. The whole thing fills Me up with great hope that one day we all will be able to fulfill the prophecies of the great saints, who said that later on the great trees of bliss – not trees, but the forests of trees of bliss – these are the trees of bliss. “Bliss” means the ones, they give benediction. And then he also has said that later on the talking, talking oceans of ambrose. So that is what he has described, you people, and I saw you moving, all of them, the forest of that; and I said, “This is the bliss walking on the roads here, on the roads of Vaitarna. Along the bank of Vaitarna the bliss itself is walking, dancing, jumping and expressing its joy.” It was beautiful. I wish I could express it more subtly, because I think in the meditation one can feel it more and the words get lost, the meanings are lost, they are not sufficient enough to express the beauty and joy of that bliss.

May God bless you all. I am very happy to meet the second batch here, and I hope we’ll start the evening puja later on, which will be a very good beginning for you.

So I have to tell you that there is no need to have any inhibitions, not to worry about time. You have to go beyond time, beyond all your habits of comfort, habits of so-called sophistication. Try to really get rid of it. That’s why you are here. So don’t start the day with all those that we have left behind.

I am so happy to see you are all so much drenched in the joy of the advent of the Adi Shakti, to express it, and to feel that joy that you are the ones who are witnessing it, you are the ones who are spreading it.

(Shri Mataji speaks in Marathi for some time.)

Please pay attention to your Sahastrara. You have to ask, “Please sustain my yoga.” Then, “Please increase my yoga shakti.” And lastly, “Please allow my spirit to spread its light in my attention. Mother, please give me the boon of Your grace.”

Please see if the cool is flowing out or not, on your Sahastrara, just press it a little bit; because just now you’ve been jumping too much, your Heart is catching …. Please keep your hand on your heart. If the Heart is catching you do feel the pressure on your Sahastrara. The reason is, this is the place of the Heart Chakra. Fontanel bone area is the place of the Heart Chakra. That’s why I put it … Now, just say with full assertion, “Mother, I am the spirit” …. Say it twelve times …. but not mechanically.

…. Are you all right? Give it a bandhan and raise your kundalini, I think …. We are all Sahaja yogis here, you see. The whole village is become a Sahaja yogi village! So sweetly, yes? Ha, now raise it – how they do it …. All right? Done! Like Maharashtrians, they say “yes” like this! They don’t do it that way; but I think good for Vishuddhi – both the sides gives a balance. Ha – done! ….

Can somebody help Me here? … (Shri Mataji is giving directions in Marathi for the puja preparations.)

Puja Talk

…to organize. Yes, but I praise Indians very much and I also praise with you. But we have certain very bad qualities, and one of them is that we are very extremely untidy people. Our aesthetics are so horribly made that we don’t understand the difference between a plastic bag and a silver jug, such jumbled up things we have. And I think I would request you to insist on arranging things yourself, because then they will pick up and learn things that it is to be done. You have to learn a lot of things from them, but they have to also learn some things from you, and they are very important things. Because it all makes a coefficients, it makes an atmosphere, and a pleasing thing for the gods.

But this is the character of an Indian, Indian character, that whatever is wrong where, whatever is the condition, carry on. See no evil, speak no evil – it’s like that. If anything is bad, let it be as it is. Let it rust, let it absolutely till it becomes so rotten that it is going to fall on your head, then you may put a little support. That’s our character. We’re too tolerant with everything, and that has led us to this kind of an incapacity to work.

But if you see the ritambhara pragya, see the ritambhara pragya, how she works, how she beautifully does everything, how she creates everything so beautifully. There’s so much neatness if you go to a jungle, you will not find anything dirty, filthy, smelling – nothing. Everything washed up, cleaned up. The nature works in beautiful circles. Everything works out so much beautifully that when we call ourselves “natural” we should understand that ritambhara pragya is the most natural thing. And how ritambhara pragya works is with complete neatness and complete cleanliness of the whole thing.

Indians will be personally very, very clean, extremely clean they are, no doubt. But collectively they don’t understand cleanliness. If you see their roads, if you see their outside of the houses, it’s all dirty. And that is what I will blame our Indian men, you see, they are extremely conscious that they are human beings. You see, we have only two races in India, women and men. There is no third race. Men are not supposed to do any work, inside, outside, anywhere. They don’t see to the outside of the house. Like in England I find men are all the time doing the sweeping, swabbing, everything outside. They do mowing of the lawn, looking after the garden, everything. Here the men will be just standing with their hands on their waist and ordering the wives, or if not the wife, the servants and all that.

And whatever may be, the wife may be dominating as far as money is concerned, but all these things the man is not going to do. He’ll just give up; he’ll say, “I am not supposed to do all these things.” That’s why collectively in this country we can never be clean people, because our men will just sit down. They won’t do anything, just they won’t do anything. Only the women are supposed to do everything, and that’s how our collective cleanliness is zero, absolute zero.

For example, if there’s a W.C. not working in England, I can’t think of any man who will sit down for five minutes. He’ll himself do it, he’ll get a plumber, he’ll do somehow or other, try to manage. Here, it’s not all right – it doesn’t matter, it’s all right. No, see no evil – manage. This is how we have lived all centuries now I think, and it’s high time for all Sahaja yogis to change themselves.

Now, here there are many artists sitting in this part, but the men are not doing anything – puja the women are doing. And the women don’t know anything how to do it, so the whole thing can be absolutely wretched. It is not, it is a sort of a character with us, we do this way. But otherwise we have so many qualities. We have so many qualities that you can’t imagine how much we have got through our traditions. We are very humble people, we are extremely loving, affectionate, we’ll go to any extent to serve others. We are not cunning people, we are not meticulous, we don’t calculate. We are very hospitable. All these things are there, no doubt. But these things that we have to learn from you, it’s maybe gross, to look at it looks gross, but it’s not.

Just now as you see that if it is properly done, if it is nicely done, I mean, at least I feel very much pleased with it, and everybody feels pleased about it. And when somebody sees the film also, they’ll be pleased to see this kind of a film where there’s something sensibly put up and everything is nicely done, care has been taken. Also shows a kind of a understanding that this is the worship of the Adi Shakti, and you cannot take liberties with it. Imagine, in these ordinary temples they spend so much money; even the walls, the doors, the windows, everything made of silver. They do so much to create that. But if you people miss it – the Indians, I am saying – then it’s going to be very dangerous for you.

One must understand that you cannot just play about – just “Mother is coming.” Nobody came to even call Me. Somebody should have come to call Me. I just walked on Myself. Here, this is not the way to behave, and the Indians must learn these things, that somebody must come to call Me. After all, you see, all these protocols they are going to learn from you, from the Indians; and if you don’t have any protocol about it, how are they going to get it?

So this is what one has to understand, that as English have to learn from French and French have to learn from Germans, and Germans have to learn from, say, Austrians, or Austrians have to learn from Swiss, whatever it is, it’s very important that the Indians must learn from the Western people. Certain things, that the way they respect their women – first of all that, the way they respect their women. Of course, one should not go to that limit that the women just dominate all the time. I mean, American women are, I have seen about women, they are horrible. But still I would say that one must learn, one must learn how to respect the women. Women are human beings. Your Mother is a woman, and you must learn how to respect a woman. And if you don’t know how to respect the woman, then in this country I’m sure there cannot be bliss, whatever you may try.

So the men must learn that, they must know how to talk to their sisters, to their mothers, to their wives. But if there’s a woman who is dominating, you see, if there’s a dominating woman then she becomes a prime minister in this country. That’s what we are. If you get a dominating woman then she can manage. If she’s a simple woman, she’s good, she’s religious, she’s submissive, then she’s finished. If she’s dominating, then men are afraid of such women. This is very sad and that gives a very bad images.

So I feel that as ritambhara pragya works out everything so well; in the nature if you see how she beautifully creates everything, how she chooses things, how she places things, how the colors change. You’ll never find anything loud, anything obstructing, anything that is destructive, vulgar, new – nothing. You find everything so beautifully done that it creates an inspiration in a human mind, in a human heart which can be of a stone also. Even French, you see, they get inspired by ritambhara pragya. So you can imagine people with stone hearts can get inspired, people who have very funny ideas about human beings can get inspired by ritambhara pragya. So why not we the Sahaja yogis should get inspiration from ritambhara pragya, and try to make everything look nice, beautiful, and must have coefficients by which we can have the proper channel for our vibrations.

And this is what I feel is lacking in the coordination between East and West. Let us give them this simple thing as to understand how you respect your women, how you respect the aesthetics, how you look after things. I know in the London, supposing I have to have a puja, I don’t want to see these things at all. On the contrary, I am enamored the way things are done – always. Here also they work out, I’m not saying always, but it could have been much better a little bit, because a film has to be done and all that.

But this is the trouble is that in our everyday look, outlook we are like that. You will see that everywhere you go in the villages the problem is, there are bathrooms, there are W.C.s, but never repaired. Once spoiled means spoiled once for all. Telephone is spoiled, it’s spoiled forever. At least in America people will go and buy; they will not repair, but they will go and buy new one. Here they will not buy new one, nor they will have any replacement – carry on with it throughout. That is a very bad character we have got, which we must change. We should try to see everything is working all right.

Now, come to the kundalini. Supposing the kundalini goes out of order, are we going to give it up? If one chakra is not good, are we going to give it up? If there’s something wrong with – that point Indians are very particular, much more than the Westerners – if the kundalini is out, they’ll get after it. If one chakra is out they’ll get after it, they’ll clean it. Because they are the roots, you see, and the root doesn’t bother about the beauty; but the tree has to look after the beauty. So this is a combination which has to be worked out properly by you both, and the things will work out very well, I think, if you understand what co-relationship you have with each other, what you have to learn from them and what they have to learn from you.

Now, today is a special day I thought of having a puja, because today is the moon – just see, in front of Me here – and today is the first day the moon is waxing *[ Shri Mataji may mean “waning.”] In the science of Sahaja Yoga, the moon is the spirit in our heart. It is the spirit in our heart, meaning in Marathi purnantara. It’s the spirit in our heart, and it shines when the sun reflects on it. When the sun – the sun, that is the sun of God. When the sun of God reflects on the heart, then the moon shines in the human heart. But when it shines as a moon, then Shiva Himself lifts it up and puts it on His head. So the human beings who are blessed by the sun of God, who are being awakened by the sun of God, that is you can say that it is Shri Ganesh or Lord Jesus Christ, any one of them, if they enlighten the heart of human beings, then it becomes a shining moon.

And the amavasya, the day when it’s the dark night, is when a man is not a realized soul at all. The realized soul is like the full moon. Now today is the day when the moon is slightly, one degree less. It’s a important day for us because this is the first day when it is waxing [waning.] And that is the day we have to fix up our moon within ourselves, that we start waxing [waning] by degrees. Into sixteen degrees we to go on waxing [waning.] And when that happens we don’t realize that there is no shining in there. The shining is going out. And we have to be careful, we have to look after it, and we have to work it out so that we worship that day when it starts waxing [waning.]

It can wax [wane] with many things. You see, we have so many ways of finishing off the light that God has given us in our heart, that is the spirit. One of them is, very great one is the thinking that we do about it. The first it starts when we start thinking about it, rationalizing about it. You must know that when I speak, I don’t speak: actually these are all mantras, and whatever I do, I work it out in such a way that what I’m saying works out within you. It’s the Krita Yuga, and it works out. When I say that, the whole machinery gets geared up. So when I say something, if you start reflecting it in your mind you are gone, because you are not receiving what I am trying to do. If it is a mantra, that means whatever I am saying, those sound waves will create that being within you that I am describing. So at that time, once you start thinking about it you cannot receive it, because you have put a barrier of your thought. So when I’m talking, just try to receive it. Just say “yes, yes” inside, so that you receive it within yourself.

So this is one of the greatest problems of today, is that whatever you say everybody must answer, everybody must argue, everybody must say, “No, this could be that way, that could be, there are alternatives, this, that” – everything goes on. There is no need at all to do all that. And when you start doing that, then all the gods and goddesses get angry one by one, and that’s how you start losing your light within yourself. So this is the most displeasing thing for gods and goddesses, that you don’t recognize Me, that you don’t recognize Me fully, that you still argue with Me. Still you start asking questions, still you start giving Me alternatives. Absolutely, this is just not necessary for you to go on arguing, to go on discussing it.

It is just that you assimilate whatever I am saying, and that assimilation itself will open out those new dimensions within you, which God wants to be opened out. So better surrender in that way your ego. Ego is the one that makes you say something, argue something, discuss something. And this is what is the biggest problem, what that I have seen when the first day of the waxing [waning] starts. So today is the first day when we should say that our ego should not start that drooping down.

It was nice to dance, enjoy, everything, but then when you sit down – while dancing you can’t think, thank God! But as soon as the whole thing is over you sit down, again the mind starts going on, “tck, tck, tck, tck,” and then we start thinking. And once we start thinking, then we are losing that light which we have received. Sort of, the moon has started waxing [waning] and that point one has to be careful, because that’s the most important thing. If you do not allow it to happen first time, then it can stop. It’s very simple to understand that if you can stop a sari or a last bit of it, it will not blow out, because you are holding onto it. So at the very beginning of waxing [waning] of the moon, if you are careful about it, if you are alert about it, it will never happen; whatever you have achieved will be sustained, and then you can increase. But that’s the very important point which we miss, and that’s why we have lots of trouble and lots of problems in Sahaja Yoga.

So now as you are moving for your further journey, so many of you have come for the first time, I have to tell you: don’t think, don’t reflect. In this you must learn from Indians. They don’t think about these things. But they have to think, because when they think they’ll start thinking about gross things which they have to think. I mean you don’t think. You’ll be giving up all that is nonsensical that you have been thinking about.

So don’t think about it, don’t reflect, don’t bother. Try to be subtler and subtler and not misidentified with your tags that are outside – like hooks, you see. And the mind is like a hook. I have seen all of you have some one hook outside and all the yarns go, hook around it, again another yarn goes and hooks around it. And the whole mind is attached to that hook. That is Mr. Ego.

If you can cut your strings somehow or other and say, “I’m not going to think. I have come here for my spiritual ascent. Let me be what I am. If Mother says something I’ll listen to it, if She scolds me I’ll listen to it, She does something, whatever She does, let me see that as I have come here for chiseling out myself; let Her chisel me out, let the Nature chisel me out, let the whole atmosphere chisel me out, puja should chisel me out.” But you just become like a beautiful, we can say, a jade in the hands of the Divine, and allow the Divine to take out all your beauty. Just allow the Divine to take out your beauty, and then you can enjoy your beauty. But if you hand over to all these old things, then it will be very difficult.

So as being the first day, I have started it on the day when the moon is about to wane, you see. So I hope you’ll be all very careful about it. Be alert. You have to be very alert. You have to go beyond time. You don’t have to think about food. Once in a while if you don’t eat, doesn’t matter. Nobody is going to die, I tell you! We don’t eat for days together, nothing happens to us. So food has not come, the breakfast time, the dinner time – I mean, there food is a religion, I think, so everything has a time. Here there is no time for anything. We’ll do whenever we feel like, you see? Let’s do that way.

So we have to be prepared for a nice thorough cleansing, and a very enjoyable time throughout. These two things can work hand in hand, if you just accept that you don’t have to think. If you don’t think, everything can be done without any problem, and you’ll enjoy life very much.

So that’s one thing.

* Note: This was the first day of the waning of the moon, and Shri Mataji did use the word “waning” near the end of this talk (English part.)’

(Shri Mataji contiues in Marathi.)

Attempt to translate Shri Mataji’s commentaries on Shri Suktam in Marathi language into English

hiranya varnam harinim suvarna rajata srajam
candram hiranmayim laksmim jatavedo ma avaha
Gold comes from the Sun and the Moon comes from the Spirit, so Golden Moon is a good idea, combination of both, Mother is. Chandra and Surya, both… Both are expressed on the face.

tam ma avaha jatavedo laksmim anapagaminim
You pierce through our heart, you can put it like that in English. But otherwise it is, the Mana is as you know the Super Ego, regarded as something great in India. Super Ego means all the conditionings, the good conditionings are the…

yasyam hiranyam vindeyam gam asvam purusan aham
asvapurvam ratha madhyam hastinada-prabodhinim
Prabodh, Bodh is the knowledge and Pra is the enlightened knowledge. The One who gives us enlightened knowledge.

sriyam devim upahvaye srir ma devir jusatam
Now, what is Shri Shakti? Shri Shakti is the power by which you enlighten all that is gross. You use all that is gross through your divine power. Sarva panchama bhuta, all the five elements. That is Shri Shakti. It’s the subtle power of all the five elements which can be controlled by You. That is what You enlighten within us and we can also control.

kam sosmitam hiranya prakaram ardram jvalantim truptam tarpayantim
Asmita is where you don’t think, Asmita, without that, the state of mind where you don’t think. Asmita, thoughtless awareness. Adrata is the humidity felt by affection and love, becomes like fire, means fire means warmth, we get warmth in our attachments, in our expressions of emotions. Warmth.
Truptas are people who are satisfied, who are realized souls, and when You worship them or sort of respect them and honour them, as if You give them the honour because they are satisfied souls.”

padme sthitam padmavarnam tam iho pahvaye sriyam
Your apparition, Rupa [Mhanjets] means your apparition, your appearance. Because of your appearance, whatever appearance You have we get our Realization. We also get that appearance of Shri. Shri means dignity.

candram prabhasam yasasa jvalantim sriyam loke devajustam udaram
Prabha –Aura. Yasa means success [in Marathi : but “success” is gross.] Spiritual success. We get burning spiritual success. [in Marathi : Shabda nahi. Exact shabda kase? // There is no word. What would be the exact word ?] You cannot think of a mild burning or a sweet burning in the heart you do get, isn’t it?
tam padminimim saranam aham prapadye laksmir me nasyatam tvam vrne
This is just happening to you, I mean, just see it was written thousands of years back, is happening to you people. You are such special people. Otherwise the people used to read this before, used to think : “How, God knows how it works out.

aditya varne tapaso dhijato vanaspatis tava vrkso tha bilvah
tasya phalani tapasa nudantu maya ntarayas ca bahya alaksmih

upaitu mam deva sakhah kirtis ca manina saha
pradur bhuto smi rastre smin kirtim rddhim dadatu me
I mean, one is asking for virtue. Virtue is to be asked, to be deserved, to be adored [?], to be proud [?]

ksut pipasa malam jyestham a laksmim nasayamy aham
abutim asamrddhim ca sarvam nirnuda me grhat
asamrddhi-affluence. A spiritual affluence. It’s all spiritual all right? There’s nothing like that, you see […]

gandhadvaram duradharsam nityapustam karisinim
Make my nose, make my eyes. You increase the power of my […] You see when you are aware, you get a fragrance. So what he is asking for is that you give me a nose that will always have the fragrance of your being, you see. Gandhadvaram duradharsam, means even if you are away, I should always have your Darshan, means I should always be in your nearness [?], or I should always have your blessing, as if you are with me. Karisim.

Isvarigum sarva bhutanam tam iho pahvaye sriyam
Now, Ishwari Shakti is the Power by which You pulsate in every atom, you see, and the same way as You pulsate in every atom, You should be all the time fragrant in my being and also I should be feeling Your Darshan all the time.
Shreya shabda (word), you see, Sanskrit word is such… Shreya means your spiritual well being, but in Sanskrit you can say it is so in one word, but in English you have to say spiritual well being.

manasah kamam akutim vacas satyam asimahi
Means with my body, with my being, with my speech, with my think, with my mind. Many people speak about Sahaja Yoga but in the heart they don’t have and many people have it in the heart but they don’t work it out with their bodies. You see they won’t work it out, you see they’ll be just using it for their own indulgence from the mind. Some may work it out by talking about it. But those who work by all these three integrated forces they are the ones… You give me that power that I work out all of them with the integrated force. I mean even that is asked from Mother… But at least there is the asking. That’s the great point [laughter] At least they’re asking for it.

pasunam rupam annasya mayi sris srayatam yasah
It’s spiritual, again spiritual, see, animals have got their own beauty, but You should give us that beauty that gives us spiritual success. Shreyam mhanje (means) spiritual well being… Or our knowledge of English is limited I think, I don’t know… Is there anything like a combine word for spiritual well being in English? Would you say that? Anyone knowing English? [laughters]

kardamena praja bhuta mayi sambhava kardama
If I have children, let them be by Your blessing.

sriyam vasaya me kule mataram padma malinim
This you must hear. In the whole dynasty. In my whole dynasty the children should be born out of Your grace so that You are worshiped throughout my dynasty.

H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi