Music and Conversation on Sahaja Yoga School Project Jaipur (India)

Music and Conversation on Sahaja Yoga School Project NOT CLEAR SY: He is chairman of Housing Board Land allotment he has done. He is sardarji. Shri Mataji:They eat money (take bribe) every where. SY: In this case, they didn’t take bribe. Shri Mataji, Government gave the rebate. In this case they gave the rebate. They did not take the money. NOT CLEAR

Conversation on Quran Swiss Hotel, Istanbul (Turkey)

Talk at Swiss Hotel. Istanbul (Turkey), 23 April 2001 SHRI MATAJI: So, the religion should be inside. That’s Sufizm. “Sufi” word comes from “saf” [clean]. Yogi: Mother, Mr. Emin is teaching at the Marmara University and teaching the interpretations of Holy Quran. SHRI MATAJI: Good. Yogi: Yes. SHRI MATAJI: But, you see, Quran also is very much recent. Sufi : There is a verse in the Quran. It says that if the people were abstain of Allah’s prohibitions and namely, if they followed Allah’s orders, if they did not do so (what they did), they would experience the abundances raining down on them from the sky. That is to say, if they did not break the rules and if they run the orders of Allah. SHRI MATAJI: It’s not that way. You see. Sufi : So I am not sure, Yes if they believed, if they believed and didn’t break the rules Sufi : They would see the gates of abundance in the sky is going to open for them. SHRI MATAJI: To whom? Yogi: To the people. SHRI MATAJI: There’s no doubt about it. But what I feel about the whole thing is that that Koran was written after forty years of death of Muhammad Sahib SHRI MATAJI: and also- Sufi :Not, no, He wrote it in his lifetime SHRI MATAJI: and you cannot remember. But despite that, I find Quran is perfect. But there are many subtler things that are missing. Now, for example, Muhammad Sahib has said Read More …

Conversation with Princess Nun Bangkok (Thailand)

1995-03-15 Conversation with Princess Nun Bangkok Shri Mataji: I am very happy you are taking interest in this andPrincess Nun: I have no experience on this one, (laughs). I like to learn about(Mixed audio)Shri Mataji: That’s what Buddha had said that you have to have experience. Without the experience whatever you believe is is not that. It has to have connection. But Buddha’s mission was finished like that abruptly. He had really worked very hard. No doubt. But people didn’t understand him and even I see in Japan, they follow Buddhism. But they dot understand. Because  Princess Nun: It’s very difficult(laughs)Shri Mataji: See it is not mental what they talked aboutPrincess Nun: SpiritualShri Mataji: It’s beyond mental. Thats the thing they called as Nirvana. But just believing in something, you don’t get it. You have to have it within yourself (Mixed voice)Princess Nun : PracticeShri Mataji: experience has to (unclear). My son-in-law, elder-son…younger son-in-law is writing a book on Buddha. In that he is going to point out all these things little little. That how we have missed the point you see. He said that we have to be in the middle path first of all and people are not in the middle path. They are one extreme to another extreme and his main idea was compassion. Compassion that has power. That only you get it when you become one with the All-pervading power. Otherwise you don’t have that compassion. That compassion which has power and this is very important Read More …

Conversation on Islam Montfermeil Ashram, Montfermeil (France)

Conversation on Islam, Montfermeil ashram, Montfermeil (Paris), France, July 11th, 1994 Indians are ancient people; they travelled all over the world. They went to, even to England. [Inaudible] But the best part is the timing: six hours difference. And this six hours difference comes in with the exact timing in India and here. And another I will tell you, the way they give degrees to the studies, Bachelor of Arts. “Apne a brahmachary tatva”, masters of arts, Brahmins. These are the things of ancient times, guru [?] Dr Rustom Banjorjee: Like laureates. Shri Mataji: You are surprising Me. Even in, near Peru or somewhere, there were mountains called Shiva, Vishnu. Sahaja Yogi: I don’t know Shri Mataji. Arnaud de Kalbermaten: Even in Bolivia. Shri Mataji: Bolivia, what do you have? Arnaud: In Bolivia, there are some ruins, Shri Mataji, which is unexplained and they think that the people came from a very far away country to build this ruin. And it was a city in the Altiplano. Shri Mataji: What did they build? Arnaud: It was all the city. It’s not the Maya it’s a city which is quite close to La Paz. Tiwanaku. Shri Mataji: Best part of it, I’ll tell you, is that we went down to Bogota. And what is that port called? You have got a port in Bogota? Sahaja Yogi: Cartafel? Shri Mataji: Hum, Cartafel. So we went there and they were having a party, reception party. So I asked them: “Why do you have Read More …

Picnic Maroondah Dam, Melbourne (Australia)

Picnic , Maroondah Dam, Melbourne (Australia) 31-3-1994 That time I used to be so happy that you people all have joined together, the collectivity is good and that you are helping the leader, who is very capable, I must say, you are so lucky to have such a leader who is so capable, educated, wise and I can’t understand how people do not enjoy his leadership. If you have any problems, tell Me – no harm. You see, from Australia I get such thick letters always [UNCLEAR – WHEN THEY WRITE?] but the main thing they never write. Like, I never wanted them to go to America because America is a Hell, you see. I didn’t want them, they’ll lose their vibrations – I mean, it’s not a place to go to and without asking Me they all went. Otherwise for a small thing like putting a WC somewhere, they’ll write to Me but for going to America no body wrote, I never knew, I was surprised to see thirty five people coming on top of these few four, five sahaja yogis there. And the way they talked to these people also shocked [ASIDE – Paani Dena (Give Water)] They are actually very, very good sahaja yogis; They are few, very few but one better than the other – wonderful people they are! And gradually they are spreading sahaja yoga in a very good way. So, they told Me that some of the sahaja yogis who went from America, they Read More …

Dinner with Ayatollah Rohani Paris (France)

Dinner with Ayatollah Rohani, Hotel in Paris, July 1993 PART 1 Shri Mataji: …About what’s happening all around the world about Islamic people. And they said that “Mother we will join you in every way because we will bring peace.” I was very happy. Ayatollah: Is it? Shri Mataji: So they said they have had lots of conferences and this and that, organisations but nothing has worked out. And in Sudan, most of them are Muslims. And educated people even in Senegal, I know, are very well-educated people are there. And fundamentalism is not so much in Sudan, but the fight between the two sides of the Muslims; one on the Arabic side another on the African side. I said I will come to Sudan and let us see. In America, we have lots of Iranians. I met them in Los Angeles. There are 900 families, Muslims. And they want their Realisation. They’re very, very good people.  [Ayatollah speaks in Arabic about a Hadith] Djamel: He says that there is a Hadith in Arabic from the Prophet. There’s a Hadith which says that “Whoever knows himself knows God” Shri Mataji: Who knows? Ah, that’s it! That’s the point. I mean, you see, as you know, Mohammed Sahib was a great person, a great enlighted person. And he did say the same thing, I mean. How could he say something else?  Ayatollah: It’s my son. [In French] Shri Mataji: Son. Lady: Nice to meet you. So they, you see, they have Read More …

Conversation with Sahaja Yogis around Bucharest, Elisabeta Palace (Romania)

Yogini: We hoped you really like that Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji: So Beautiful. Yogi: Thank you, Mother. Shri Mataji: It’s beautiful. Thank you very much. This cannot be opened out? Inaudible, laughter. Shri Mataji: I see, so this you can bring it. Yogini: Yes. Shri Mataji: This is for yourself? Yogi’s: No, (unclear). Shri Mataji: How much time more? Yogini: Ten minutes after them, ten minutes after them. Another Yogini: Ten! Yogini: So we have to not leave in one hour. Yogini: Less than an hour. Yogini: In half an hour. Yogini: In half an hour we have to leave. (Unclear.)

Conversation with Sahaja Yogis About Politics Canberra Ashram, Canberra (Australia)

Conversation with yogis about current events and international politics, Canberra ashram (Australia), 12 February 1992. Yogi: But there is a room here with a bathroom attached! Shri Mataji: Would be better to be with you all! But in Melbourne I would like to stay in a hotel – would be better – just to show a little resentment at the way they are behaving. How many came for follow-on last [time], after my programme? Yogi: Fifty people. Shri Mataji: Fifty people? And then how many stayed? Yogi: Only three or four. Shri Mataji (Laughing): That’s just like it. I don’t know, there’s something missing. I don’t know what is missing. Like in Russia I don’t know how people settle down that fast. They have never heard of God. I think we have too much conditioning of all these things – God and, religion, this that – which has deviated. So we are between the two. Some people who believe in God, in a blind way, and are following something wrong, religions which are deviated; and there are some people, who are against it completely, they are atheist, intellectuals. So, we are lost in between. And that’s why it takes time here. And there is not much of introspection also. Bu,t I must say, Russians are very introspective and very humble people, very humble. Even the media is very humble. The media people who came to see me there, even like Pravda, which is a hardliner I should say, was very good. Read More …

Informal gathering Vienna (Austria)

TRANSCRIPT OF VISIT TO AUSTRIA INFORMAL TALKS 1991-1025 [Transcript starts from 1:12:00. A few unclear informal exchanges from start to 45 minutes. Mother and Sahaja Yogis may be working on chakras and catches. Sounds of people and children moving in the background. There is a sitar instrumental performance playing from 45 minutes to 1:10:00]. Shri Mataji: What do you say? Sahaja Yogi: Mother, I feel both the Vishuddhi, both the Agyna, Nabhi, Central Heart, Swadishthan. [Long pause in conversation]. Shri Mataji: No use talking you know. Talking is just talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. It should go into your heads. You should understand how important it is for you to meditate and keep all right. Because if you think this is a very important work we are doing, you have to work it out. Also, we must be capable, worthy of it. Worthy of the name of Sahaja Yoga isn’t it? [Phone rings]. Sahaja Yogi: Hello? We are with Shri Mataji at the moment. Can you ring back later? Can you please ring later? Yes. Thank you. [Pause in conversation]. Shri Mataji: Right. You have Nabhi, Right Heart. Gregoire, how is [UNCLEAR]? [UNCLEAR/reply from Gregoire]. Shri Mataji: You have been to TM? Have you been to TM? Sahaja Yogini: No. Shri Mataji: You haven’t been to anything? Sahaja Yogini: I have read several books in the direction of management frameworks. Shri Mataji: What? Sahaja Yogini: How to be successful. Shri Mataji: How to? Sahaja Yogini: How to be successful. How Read More …

Conversation with yogis Applecross ashram in Perth, Perth (Australia)

Conversation With Yogis, Applecross ashram in Perth, Perth (Australia), 1991-03-28 Yogini: Mother, it’s Mathias on the phone again, it’s Mathias on the phone again, he’s talking about lamb and things, he wants to talk about the lamb. Shri Mataji: Lamb? Huh? Should I go in the room or? Yogini: Is there a telephone extension in here? Yogi: Yes. Yogini: Is there a point from the wall? Can anyone say point from the wall? Yogini: Otherwise, there’s one in the kitchen, Mother, which… Shri Mataji: There’s a meat company, you can talk to the meat company, I think Frank can do something about it. So he wants to have an offer as soon as possible. Isn’t it? It’s a good solution. It’s maybe for this also you’ll find this, but first of all this, there must be meat companies here. Yogini: Oh, I’m sure there are, mother. As you say, Frank would be there. Shri Mataji: [unclear]. And the meat. [unclear] To Poland. Both. To Poland and to Bulgaria.

Departure Conversation with Yogis Sydney airport (Kingsford Smith), Sydney (Australia)

Conversation with Yogis, Departure Sydney Airport, Sydney (Australia), March, 21st, 1990 Now you have to be very careful, alright. And don’t allow collectitivty to be broken by anyone. I now feel that [Gibs?] was a very evil person, very evil man. He has harmed so many people, he has made so many people get out of Sahaja Yoga, also he tortured some people, he beat some people, not only he wiped himself but he was not a very good man, he’s an evil man. And if such a person tries to talk to you, or telephones to talk, just you tell him that: “We have no faith in you, we don’t talk to you”. Cause you will have troubles, you’ll have troubles, I’m telling you. Such people, you should never talk to or discuss anything. Just say: “We have nothing to do, you just don’t talk to us.” Alright? Please be careful. Because I’ve seen people who do all these things can bring lot of harm. As I told you the case in Germany, where two people got cancer. You don’t listen to him you just say: “We don’t want to talk you, we have nothing to do with you, we don’t know you.” “We have no faith in you”. Just say that. Because also very cunning, you see. Accounts are so horrible and God knows what he has been doing, where the money was going you see, impossible to locate and find out. It’s a very difficult situation. You’d Read More …

Conversation with Sahaja Yogis on buying the Ashram Brisbane (Australia)

Conversation Sahaja yogi:        [Inaudible: Place of work?] Shri Mataji:         You can go for your work. Staying in the city is not so good for Sahaja Yogis. You see, vibration-wise and also not good for your lungs, you see. It’s better to be little away if you want to meditate. First and foremost thing is you have to ascend. For that you should be in a place which will help you to ascend. Otherwise, if you live in the city, the city hubbub [unclear. in the city] all nonsense. Can’t even meditate properly and it’s so polluted. It spoils your lungs completely. So it would be nice to be a little away from the city. Try to find some house of that kind. And first you have to get a mortgage for that which you can do if all of you put together. And then you have to pay the rent of the house as the mortgage part of the mortgage. So you own it all. Sahaja yogi:        I think it would take some time to own a place of that kind. Shri Mataji:         I didn’t follow that. Sahaja yogi:        He said they have desired for some time to own something rather than pay rent. Shri Mataji:   Yes if you can. Whatever is possible. If you can own something, nothing like it. But can you?  You see, this is the way I said that you first pay the first instalment. I would like to know what is it. How much you Read More …

Conversation with a journalist and yogis after the walk on the beach Ashram in Cairns, Cairns (Australia)

Conversation with a journalist and Sahaja Yogis after the walk on the beach (on cricket, saris, etc.) Is it…(INAUDIBLE) too much for you? (Unclear) Shri Mataji: No, I mean we Indians have too much of sun in our body. So we perspire a lot compared to you people. Journalist: and your next stop from here is where? Shri Mataji: I think we are going to Brisbane. Journalist: Brisbane? Shri Mataji: (Mother nods her head as a yes and cont. to talking to the person) and from there New Zealand. Then back to Sydney, (unclear) from Sydney, I will fly out to Hong Kong. Hong Kong, we also have a center. I’ll spend a day there and go back to Bombay. Then there’s a tour of North India. Journalist: of? Shri Mataji: North India. Journalist: Oh! Shri Mataji: It’s going to Delhi, (*) various places. And I’ll be back from Calcutta ….on the 15th or 16th. And then I am going to London. Journalist: It could be called as busy then. Shri Mataji: (Smiles) wherever you are, you are! Journalist: do you follow cricket at all? Shri Mataji: Off course. Journalist: Yes, off course. Because India is very (proper game)(*) in cricket. Shri Mataji: I understand it very well. Journalist: Yes, because India is (UNCLEAR) you are flying in New Zealand now so perhaps when you are in New Zealand you (UNCLEAR) may be. Shri Mataji: My elder brother, he is the chairman of the Indian Cricket Team. Journalist: Oh Really? Read More …

Conversation with Sahaja Yogis, Mooladhara and the qualities of Indians Aurangabad (India)

Talk to yogis at India Tour. Aurangabad (India), 7 December 1988. Sahaja Yogi: “Our ascent Mother.” Shri Mataji: “What?” Sahaja Yogi: “Our ascent.” Shri Mataji: “That’s very general.” Sahaja Yogini: “Enjoy tapasyas.” Shri Mataji: “Enjoy what? Chapathi?” (All Sahaja Yogis laugh) Shri Mataji: “Enjoy What?” Sahaja Yogini: “Tapas.” Shri Mataji: Tapas! Is it any tapas in this? Doesn’t seem to. No, no, no, no, no, no. We are all having a nice time I think. Tapasya doesn’t mean this. Tapasya means you have to climb the Himalayas without any water, with dehydration getting thinner and thinner, no food, nothing, that is Tapasya. Or stand on your one foot for 12 years. Sahaja Yogini: “We are getting Joy.” Sahaja Yogi: “We enjoy collectivity.” Shri Mataji: “That’s one of them. Correct. That’s one of them.” Sahaja Yogini: “To be in thoughtless awareness all the time.” Shri Mataji: Yes. You see there are really many things about this Indian tour, specially of Maharastra. To begin with, Maharastra is the country where I would say the Ganesha principle is very strong. Because there are 8 Ganeshas which have come out of the Mother Earth. And all the three powers are represented by the Mother Earth also here Mahakali, Maha Lakshmi, Maha Saraswati. So the whole place is very vibrated. And the Mother Earth is very much vibrated. Now, if you have any problem of Mooladara, for example, on this land if you sit down on the ground and put My photograph in front of Read More …

Conversation after Arrival (United States)

Conversation after Arrival, New Rochelle (United States), July 25th, 1988 Yes, how beautiful they were! [Shri Mataji speaks in Hindi about Emile Zola] Then, he is trying to show in one woman, four types of womanhood [in the book ‘Nana’]. But [Hindi]. It’s like that.Very sublime. [Hindi]. Must read. I am rereading something, it’s important, good things. In Sahaja Yoga, we don’t believe in somebody reading and getting Realisation. But after Realisation, you must read.[Hindi].So many books, one can read. These days, I have no time to read.Grégoire: If they are good you inspired them all, Shri Mataji.Shri Mataji: Hum?Grégoire: If they are good you inspired them all.Shri Mataji: It’s true but – American magnets [unsure], they haven’t got much, except for writing. They just digest these things all right [unsure]. These days, it’s not so bad. Sometimes you get funny articles in that also.Also, in between, they want to popularize themselves whatever it is, but they have kept quite a good standard. Also, apart from that, oratory and ? point of knowledge, must read.Now let’s seek general knowledge. What was the name of Abraham Lincoln’s wife?Sahaja Yogini: Mary Todd.Shri Mataji: Hum?Sahaja Yogi: Mary Todd.Shri Mataji: Correct. How many knew? It was a terrible woman. Of Abraham Lincoln, you read ‘Unknown’. It was a very beautiful book. ’Unknown’.[Hindi: Unknown, do you like?]Sahaja Yogini: Dji [yes]. Shri Mataji: How are you?[Hindi conversation about Ganapatipule]Every Sahaja Yogi must come every year. It’s very nourishing, I think. Ganapatipule is very nourishing. This time, Read More …

Conversation and Dinner with Shri Mataji Gleißenfeld (Austria)

1988-06-10 Dinner, Gleissenfeld Austria Shri Mataji: …. poor line all that. which is has got regular very artistic  Yogi: But this Shri Mataji it is also very freshen again in Europe. We are going back with the two handles with old style… Shri Mataji: Because they are not so complicated.  Yogi: Yes, we can easily very pears Shri Mataji: That’s why I thought the two things that can be declared and also I think I unclear() they have eternal values. Yogi: Could be sign  Shri Mataji: Then of course people are saying unclear(you look/you should) very modern by., you see in modern I don’t mind. You must have some unclear(character/talent) in it.  Yogi: Easier to just… Shri Mataji: and also, its Brass. It is natural Brass. Indians are becoming very, very superstitious. Very superstitious. Plastic so expensive, everything so expensive. I don’t know they lose it completely unclear(when) the way you people are moved in your industrial revolution as if you have lost unclear() and Indians are so concerned about that. That’s why I was telling the management that to start one new operation. Then you ask to do Indian art, Indian craft. Once it is lost, it is lost. Now in Germany, crafts and handmade must be very expensive. Because everybody labor is expensive, and they would lost that.  Yogi: Yest Shri Mataji, everything single thing which is handmade Shri Mataji its very expensive.  Shri Mataji: See that is also unclear() it has something to do which prohibited, has, Read More …

Conversation Before Public Program Madrid (Spain)

1988-05-17 Before Public Program, Madrid Roncali, Spain Shri Mataji: Yes, Good, Let us see- If my sound also comes into it…That would be best if the sound is there …Because the one Ganesh has done was very beautiful, very nice, beautiful photographs…I think you have to be a good Sahaja yogi to get good photographs… Is it? That’s important …Is that send you this? This thing …Garland …Sahaja yogi: No idea, I don’t knowShri Mataji: Ganesh did …He said it …Give them all the things …Beautiful…See the light at the top of the Agnya …Sahaja yogi: HmmShri Mataji: Very beautiful photos has come …Very Motherly!This is the another one …2 of them are shining …[unclear]Very beautiful! Indians would like something like that …You see what they like is…This …they may like.Photographs you give them …See this is after my life …Now everybody wants you …They said that but they would like to pay …Europeans want it …So they were saying Where did you get those things for today[unclear] …Only in Spain nowhere else But they just want to pay for it …They say we will not take it for free…So last time …[unclear ]….It’s beautiful …How beautiful it is, see …Sahaja Yogi: They want to ask how much it cost and they want to send you the money in advance.Shri Mataji: All the Europeans and everybody …I mean Indians we have given now free so much but I think now better do something for the Europeans …They don’t want it Read More …

Conversation, Treatment of virus infections Pune (India)

Conversation with yogis, Pune (India), 1 December 1987. So whatever we condition ourselves, becomes a kind of our subconscious. That we have been doing, say for example, all the time something, so it becomes our conditioning, because we have been doing it repeatedly for so many times it becomes a conditioning and is also, what you call, is the habit. And also the habits are also given by our subconscious. So this is the nearest to the present, you can say. Even sitting down here, supposing I take something which is very intoxicating and immediately be thrown into such a depth of subconscious, into the collective subconscious area, that immediately something will grip Me from collective subconscious and next time I must have it. That’s what happens with drugs. As soon as you take drugs once, you’ve had it. It throws you so much to that area that you just get under the grip of something, what we call as the bhoots. And then you have to… Now, in the collective subconscious, what we have got? In the evolutionary process there were many material things which came on this earth and were thrown into this collective subconscious as useless. Like in the modern times you are having now plastics. In the same way we had many things like that which were thrown out of the evolutionary process on one side kept. Then we have got another thing, what we call the plants. Like certain plants that we have, say tobacco. Read More …

Conversation Kew Ashram, Melbourne (Australia)

TRANSCRIPT OF CONVERSATION AT KEW ASHRAM MELBOURNE, 1987-0512 Shri Mataji: Really? Sahaja Yogi: Can’t… can’t focus Yes. Shri Mataji: The whole mind is conditioned. Australian Sahaja Yogi 1: I mean, absolutely. It is like a record. Like a gramophone record going round. Shri Mataji: Yes. I have seen this in China when, I went there when Mao was there. See, the girl used to tell us anything as if it was a record – she was just saying it, without even thinking about it. See then I felt that this is some sort of a possession this girl has got. But now, of course, Chinese have got their freedom and they are much better people, I mean they’re not that kind. But in the beginning, they did that like that in China and this is how they just conditioned them. But all our theological colleges, all these people are the same. They are just trying to find out how to condition people. I mean, if they give all their business and just take to God, they will be so very much happier. And all this effort will be lost. Very serious things. You see, for Christian community especially I think, it is that because of these barriers, they may never reach God. It’s all right for Christians in the West because they have seen the nonsense of it, most of them.  But in the countries like ours, you see which are developing, for them Christianity being so sophisticated, so good Read More …

Conversation with Dr. Talwar Mumbai (India)

English translation of Shri Mataji’s talk in Hindi. Conversation with Dr. Talwar and other Sahaja Yoga leaders on February 26 and 27 1987 on the occasion of Shivaratri puja in Mumbai. Sahaja Yoga was known to me all along. It is a unique knowledge with which I was born. It was not so easy to reveal it and I wanted to find out how to reveal it. First of all, I thought that the seventh chakra must be opened, which I did, on 05th may 1970. It is a secret in a way. Formerly, the brahmachaitanaya was avyakta. It was not manifested. It was not expressed by itself, and so the people who managed to reach brahmachaitanya somehow, by attaining ‘Realisation’ said, “It was nirakar ka guna. You are like a drop that gets dissolved in the ocean.” No one could say, explain or tell people anything more about it. The great incarnations also who came out of this great ocean of brahma-chaitanya, tried their best to share it with the best available followers (which were very few) and introduce them to this Brahma-chaitanya. But because the brahma-chaitanya was not in a vyakta form, these incarnations got dissolved in it. Like gyaneshwara took his samadhi. People said that he cannot talk. It has to be experienced. So very few people got to swallow it. Nobody could actualise the experience by feeling on their fingertips, or feel it on their senses, or on their minds, or even understand it with their Read More …

Garden Reception New Delhi (India)

Garden Reception, 1986-11/03, New Dehli, India No, in that, so many dimensions have been shown.I am SHE knows Yantra Vidya, Tantra Vidya, Yagnya Vidya. SHE knows Adhyatma Vidya. SHE has mentioned all the qualities of Devi. There is not even one such quality in these gurus, not even one! Except Economics, they don’t know anything. They are modern gurus.Sahaja Yogi: How do they establish themselves even for a short period?Shri Mataji: Don’t know! You people only establish them. If we observe, they are actually pocket mars. You people only establish them. What can I do? Can’t understand anything!Sahaja Yogi: They are numbered in lakhs.Shri Mataji: They are in lakhs. Recently some had come. There were some diggers. They didn’t dig anyone in Delhi! I said as they say when jackal’s death awaits him, he goes towards city. I said, he has exactly come out towards the city. Now let him jump. He has accumulated crores of rupees. Now you sing a song. [Music].I have written a new song for New Year.Shri Mataji to a Sahaja Yogi: See he (singer) has become a spontaneous poet. He has become a great spontaneous poet.Singer: But I am not writing anything.Another Singer: You make me to write.Shri Mataji,” Go on writing.” Van Pyar Jag Mag karta Hai Sansar, Aao Aao Re Saare Hil Mil Ke Swagat Gao Re Aaya Deepon Ka Tyohaar (2)Paaya Maa Se Pawan Pyaar (2)Jag Mag karta hai Sansar (2)Aao Aao Re, Saare Hil Mil Ke Swagat Gao Re Saare Hil Read More …

Conversation about Chastity Armonk Ashram, North Castle (United States)

Excerpt from conversation at New York Ashram. New York (USA), 9 September 1986. One thing is Mooladhara is good. Indians have one advantage; they have a good Mooladhara, you see. Eyes are good. That’s what Salim [?] was telling me that they do everything that [sounds like: Sagaricles] are doing are doing but not chastity. That part they don’t compromise. Naturally, the attention is good. Once you know the Mooladhara is so important for everything, even for material gain, people will start to look after the Mooladhara. But logically you can see, it’s very logical that if your Mooladhara is all right, you have a nice family life, you have good children, they become obedient, your attention is concentrated, whatever you work you grow, you do it with concentration. There’s no diversion. There’s no – sort of, nobody can befool you because your Mooladhara is all right. Any girl who is good-looking can come and entice you, murder you, take away all your money. Or the other way round. Could be anything. I mean, you are solidly placed if you have a nice Mooladhara. You may go anywhere. Nobody can cheat you. In India it’s too much a strong feeling from tradition, I think. In our country we had three thousand women burnt themselves on a fire – Jauhar − because the Muslims had won the battle and they would enter into the fort. So they burnt themselves up. Very common in Bombay also. So many cases where women jumped Read More …

Music and Conversation on Sainath of Shirdi Los Angeles (United States)

Music and Conversation on Sainath of Shirdi [Somebody is playing guitar, a Marathi song] Shri Mataji: Hai, Mathe.  Sahaja Yogis: Hai, Mathe. [End of the song] Shri Mataji: Wow, beautiful, very beautiful, very, very beautiful, beautiful.  A Sahaja Yogi: Thank you, Mother. Shri Mataji: Hmm, just tremendous. How did you do it? Everybody’s laughing.  Shri Mataji: Marathi kaha se aa gaya?  Sahaja Yogi who was singing: Ma, English main likha hoga, translation Madhuri [unclear].  Shri Mataji: Marathi is a very difficult language to pronounce, but you did well.  Sahaja Yogi who was singing: Yes… I made a lot of mistakes at first. Shri Mataji: We have the most difficult language. Beautiful. But I feel Marathi is a very integrated language.  Sahaja Yogi who was singing: Yes.  Shri Mataji: It’s a very integrated language. It doesn’t have only one style or one type of things. It is very direct and very subtle, very, very integrated language. I mean, even the jokes and things, there is no vulgarity at all. Maharashtrians don’t know vulgarity. All the time they are laughing. And people can’t understand so why they are laughing. Every word, you see, has double meanings and this and that, very happy people. Very integrated language, I must say.  Like my husband who have come with Me, he used to come with me to see some Marathi places, and to translate it at that instant, I mean instantaneously, was so difficult for Me. I said, “This language has a big tradition behind it, history behind it. How to translate it that fast?” One day, it Read More …

Sahaj Behavior Los Angeles (United States)

Sahaj Behavior, Seminar Part 1, Los Angeles (USA), 1985-05-28 So, that’s a very good stanza if you can remember it by heart, I’ll say it again: [Sanskrit stanza from Adi Shankaracharya] “Pratah smarami hridi samsphura ta twam Satchitsukham paramahansa gatim turiyam” The second part of it: “Yat swapna jagara sushupta mavaiti nityam Tad Brahma nishkalamaham na cha bhuta sanghaha.” So, the second part is – So, the first part, as I told you, is the Spirit which we must bow to, which is the “sat chit ananda”, the one which gives you truth, the enlightened attention and the joy and which takes you beyond the fourth dimension [turiya]. “Yat swapna jagara sushupta mavaiti nityam”: which is awake under the three conditions of our consciousness. There are three conditions of our state, of our consciousness. The first is the sleeping condition, when we are sleeping. Another is the awakened, and sushupti is beyond, beyond the sleep. In all these states of consciousness, it is awake, that Brahma, that All-pervading Power. I am that [prap] All-pervading Power that Brahma, not the combination of five elements. I’m not just the combination of five elements “bhuta sanghaha”. But I’m that All-pervading Power, that Atma which connects you to that All-pervading Power, and I’m not just this reflector which is the combination of five elements.  Just when you think like that, early in the morning, you just rise above and then you do not start with mundane ideas about life, but you start your ideas Read More …

Discussion on Progress in the West Rome Ashram - Nirmala House, Rome (Italy)

Discussion on Progress in the West, Rome Ashram, Italy 1985 -05-17 How we are destroying ourselves, I think that is the ideal thing one can do. The real shock is this we should not worry about population or anything. I think you should all sit down and think about it and make a, this thing, and then you should give confessions and stories about someone Sahaj Yogi told me horrible story about his own father that when he got his confirmation and he was about 16 years of age you see. The father celebrated it, his confirmation and after that he called a prostitute to teach him all about just imagine.If that is the situation, if the parents only try to..like these things. And they think they are liberated, there should be a really very sarcastic and any pungent attack on these people those who think they are liberated and this and that. It’s just a mental domination and the conscious mind has become so powerful with the west I tell you, one day they won’t be able to control it also, won’t be able to control their conscious mind. It will go beyond their consciousness; it may happen like that. You see, when ego becomes the most powerful thing then you cannot control it at all. {Shri mataji talking to a sahaj yogi}. They are living in another world I tell you still, have to make them understand that they are really going towards their destruction all these things Read More …

Short Conversation on Arrival Rome Ashram - Nirmala House, Rome (Italy)

1985-05-16 Arrival, Rome Ashram, Italy Shri Mataji: Oh! Who has done this painting here? Very good idea.Guido: This is a copy of the one that has been made by Herbert.Shri Mataji: Ah.Guido: In Vienna.Shri Mataji: But it’s big work, much bigger, much bigger.Guido: Yes. And also, there is the deity on his eyelash.Shri Mataji: Yes. And everything is so beautiful, I tell you, really.It’s really beautiful. Please, be seated. Extremely beautiful. A very nice place, Feels so fresh here, very, very fresh. So nice. Imagine what a place! [In Hindi: Very Beautiful] It’s god sent. Guido: All wood is so naturalShri Mataji: And also, you see, to have such a big hall, such a big hall!Guido: Yes. We can have 300 people. 300 hundred people can be here.Shri Mataji: Live here?Guido: Can be –Shri Mataji: Seated. Hmm. It’s beautiful. [Hindi] It’s god sent, I tell you. As if for [inaudible]. Beautiful. Anyway, pleasant and nice place. So now what do we do?Guido: Dinner, we have dinner.Shri Mataji: Dinner. And then we can talk to these people.Guido: Yes, Mother. You prefer it here or in your room? Shri Mataji: When did you come all of you? You came this morning?Sahaja Yogini: Yes, with the train.Guido: They came by train, Shri Mataji.Shri Mataji: I See!Guido: First, our Ruth is here. Shri Mataji: Ah, Ruth! How did you come? By train or by-Ruth: By plane. Aeroplane, Shri Mataji.Guido: Aeroplane.Shri Mataji: Aeroplane, I see. Is there a direct plane?Ruth: No.Shri Mataji: You had to Read More …

Conversation Auckland (New Zealand)

Informal Talk, Centre in Auckland, New Zealand 1985-03-04 [UNCLEAR] very close to Left Swadishthan, very close to Left Swadishthan. See this [UNCLEAR N INAUDIBLE] – We’ve felt quite often we have our open right heart. – Right heart? Right heart will be those people, who came and killed many people This was a major center of colonizing [UNCLEAR] – the organizing for the colonizing of countries started from this. It was all… – Did they come here to the Spaniards or…? – The money was here, the banks were here, the organizers were here – Oh, I see, that’s how.. – That sorted [UNCLEAR] – Oh, – and even when the government shifted to Wellington, it was still – it was still Auckland which … – worked it out. – [UNCLEAR] I feel that, you see, all things, these things are of the past and we have a special category of human-beings born now-a-days. – Come to the Feet. – You can now use that one, if you want. – ….. while they’re decorating the Feet [UNCLEAR] – Now you can put it there in there, in that. – [UNCLEAR] – Yeah All the colors of My feet are there – yellow and the red. What’s that flower is? – It’s [UNCLEAR] – Annh? – Beautiful, isn’t it? – Yes. You don’t get this in India. [UNCLEAR] they always [UNCLEAR] But the vibrations are like that. – This is Warren’s idea. – What is his idea? [UNCLEAR – SAREE IS Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Children and Other Topics, Ashram Perth (Australia)

Talk to Sahaja Yogis on education, ashram of Perth, Australia, 2 March 1985.   [Tape 1] Shri Mataji: … or any sleeping of what? Sahaja Yogini: No, he has had. Shri Mataji: He? He must be tired, poor thing, you see, he’s been with Me for such a long time. I’m all right because I know how to manage, but for him it is too much marathon. Shri Mataji: The [inaudible] is at home. [Shri Mataji is laughing] Some I got for the Sahaja Yogis there, a glass, was very beautiful and quite cheap. And they like all those things. The tumblers and I brought some cups and saucers, they really like them. Because yet, we are not so good at crockery and it’s very expensive, whatever is very good is. You see, mostly, it is exported to Russia, so we don’t get good quality things available for general persons. Only very rich can buy. I mean, a good tea set would cost not less than fifty pounds, sixty pounds there. I mean and this, whatever you give is so good for them and they like it, unbreakable stuff that you bought. That was from France.   I bought the saris and everything from there and also these cups and saucers to be given to them. That’s the things they like the most. And they’ve got all these cups and saucers all intact and sometimes, they use it only for Me. I said: “It has been given for you, while Read More …

Milan/Rome Events, Conversations, Interview Rome (Italy)

1984-09-17, Milan/Rome Events, Conversations 1 Shri Mataji: “Now, it’s too loud”. Yogi: “Shri Mataji take to Milan Her message. This is the title, the great….”. Shri Mataji: “I didn’t hear, again;” Yogi: Shri Mataji take to Milan Her message, and the title, the big title is – “The Great Mother leads to discover the seed of the Spirit”. Shri Mataji: The seat of the… Yogi: The seed, Seed, seed. Second Yogi: The seed. Shri Mataji: The seed…lead, lead. Yogi: is leading? Is leading us to discover the seed of the Spirit. This is fundamentally a call for a man of today, because he has to discover the Spirit within, and this mostly is the message of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, that She gave to the person She met. And also She has a great disponibility on helping him to reach the Self-Realization and teaching him the way to enter in connection with the Divine. And get from that the vital energy. And yesterday She brought Her message to the people in Milan, in that meeting in the “Sala de Congressi”, of the Provincia. The rationality has led the men too far away and he forgot his own inner spirituality and his natural tendency for the ascent, that’s what Shri Mataji said. But the most of all in the Western World, we have always neglected the knowledge of the roots and we gave the privilege of the knowledge of the trees. And this has grown too far, and risk to get Read More …

Conversation After Shri Krishna Puja New Jersey (United States)

Talk After Shri Krishna Puja, New Jersey (United States)  Sunday, August 19th, 1984 Shri Mataji : Like Christine, I should say, Mary came here, with her fiancé, big objection, imagine French having objection to Mary coming with her fiancé, you see, can you imagine the French going to the other extreme, (laughing). I mean it is absurd, and big telephone calls to me that Mother, this has happened and this is going to happen and that is. I said look at these French telling me about this. Can you imagine? Now they don’t want that you should even talk to another person, the one who is your fiancé, before marriage, shouldn’t even look at that person, the French! (big laughter) Can you believe it! (laughter) I mean the extreme of that! So I told her better not go to but they had tickets and they couldn’t return, I said ‘baba don’t go’, big objection from everywhere, I’m amazed at it myself (laughing) and this is a new kind of a problem coming up. I can’t understand (laughing). I have seen this happens like that, another extreme, you see they are so fed up with what they have been. Just don’t want to have anything more of that, but this is the extreme can you imagine, French objecting to something like that? I mean, just think of it.  Now racist, English have the worst racist I tell you. Who was racist? They started the racialism actually. But in England if you take Read More …

Conversation About Indian Projects Vienna (Austria)

Conversation. Vienna (Austria), 7 September 1983. Sahaja Yogi: [asking about taking drugs & punishment – mostly inaudible] Shri Mataji: So I think, when they come outside, they do it. He was outside in London, in Brighton he met Me, this boy. And then he was better, but again he took to it, I don’t know why. You see, for that you must keep the company of Sahaja Yogis to get rid of your bad habits to – see, if you keep their company then in collectivity it washes off and you’ll feel better. But if do not keep the company of the collective then what happens – your individual habits just crawl up again and take charge. I give the analogy of a butter and butter milk, you see, but when you are churning, what happens? Part of the butter sometimes sticks here and there, little little stops, though it is a butter, but still it sticks here. Doesn’t go with the whole, so it is left in the buttermilk and it’s thrown away. So, like that, you see one should not stray out of the collectivity, it’s a very big force in collectivity, also where there is collectivity I remain. One should not go out from collectivity. Whatever work you are doing, take three, four Sahaja yogis also with you to be together, because negativity is very cunning and it will attack a person who is a little bits. And also other things like, you see, the social customs, Read More …

Conversation Kegelgasse Ashram, Vienna (Austria)

Conversation with Sahaja Yogis. Kegelgasse, (Edith’s house), Vienna (Austria), 3 September 1983. Shri Mataji: A great Sahaja Yogi has come. He’s a great Sahaja Yogi. Gregoire: Would you like a cup of tea, Mother? Shri Mataji: No, water. Actually, you said you’ll introduce them to Me. Gregoire: Should I do it now, Mother? Shri Mataji: Yes, please. Gregoire: So, this is Edith. Shri Mataji: I know, I know. Gregoire: We are in her house. Then we have among the Sahaja Yogis, who have been quite active. When I say your name please get up, so that is the easiest thing. We have Herbert, we have Guenter, we have Zorana, Inge, Engelbart. Shri Mataji: I don’t know this one. (Laughter) Gregoire: Jacqueline, Thomas; he is the brother of Guenter. Shri Mataji: Oh, I see. Gregoire: Camillo. Shri Mataji: He is also from Spain or something. Gregoire: No, he is from Austria. Shri Mataji: Austria? (Laughter) More Spanish sound. Gregoire: Then you have Hamid that You have met. Shri Mataji: Yes, of course, he is around us. Gregoire: And Wolfgang, Dorothea, Elisabeth, another Elisabeth, Sissi. What is the first name of your friend? Werner. I forget him, Werner. I certainly forgot. Oh, Monica, I forgot Monica. Shri Mataji: And the lady there sitting, the elder lady? Gregoire: The elder lady is the mother of Zorana. She is the mother of Zorana, she comes from Ljubljana. She just came for the children. Shri Mataji: Zorana. Oh, I see. Gregoire: She is a pediatrist. Read More …

Talk and Singing Tannay (Switzerland)

27 August 1983, Talk and Singing, Tannay, Switzerland [Unclear] How are you?  Are you back again?  You are all right?  Happy now. [To a child] It is a very good speech I gave yesterday.  You must all hear it. [Sahaja Yogi speaking]  Last night?  In the evening?  After the lecture.  Ah yes, beautiful. All of you were there, or not? [Sahaja Yogi speaking]  Yes!  [unclear] How is Markandeya, is he all right?  Athena, how are you, you are all right? The people came today from Lausanne.  They got their realisation.  There was a lady and she touched Me, and she got a shock, twice.  Like an electrical shock.  Because there was black magic on her.  And she told her husband had done black magic on her. She was really frightened.  There was yesterday one lady who came, she was very difficult, she never came today. You were working on her. [Sahaha Yogi speaking]  She could not come today, she was working, Mother.  She might be coming to Geneva.  Yes. What was wrong with her?  What chakras were catching? [Sahaja Yogi speaking]  The Agyna.  She was thinking so much.  She was left alone with two children by her husband, so she had a hard time to forgive him. She was with two children, left by her husband? [Sahaja Yogi speaking]  And now the financial situation is not good, so she felt depressed.  But here the government pays for them, isn’t it? [Sahaja Yogi speaking] But no, I don’t think so. No.  Read More …

Short Conversation on Marriages New Delhi (India)

Short Conversation on Marriages, India, Dehli, December [Before 1985]. Dr Warren: (inaudible) (I think we just needa little more time?) Shri Mataji: Now, you see the thing is, how many are really settled for marriage? Raise your hand. Sahaja Yogi: It’s Chandra and Matti. Shri Mataji: Not yet. Sahaja Yogi: Not yet. Shri Mataji: Not yet. That’s not yet settled, because told you, if he has a problem, is a problem. I am telling you very frankly:  unless and until you fully sort it out, you are not to be married. Sorry, I don’t want him to loose his job, alright? Sahaja Yogi: Yes. Shri Mataji: You see, if he looses his job, if he has to resign and go away it’s not proper. Sahaja Yogi: That’s right. Shri Mataji: What will he do? Sahaja Yogi: That’s practical. Shri Mataji: That’s very practical. Sahaja Yogi: Robert and Nirmala are coming they’ve been married by Arian Samaj [unsure] yesterday. Shri Mataji: Hum. Shri Mataji: Patrick and Madhurai have been married, I think today by Arian Samaj. They’re coming up to Delhi in two days time. Pedro and Patricia are very happy to go ahead with the arrangement. Shri Mataji: Three of them no? Sahaja Yogi: And Guido and Isabelle who wish to seek your blessings for their marriage. Shri Mataji: Alright. Sahaja Yogi: And that’s all that I have [inaudible – apparently(?)] Shri Mataji: Four of them. I’d also want to be- Sahaja Yogi And five re-marriages. Shri Mataji: Hum? Sahaja Read More …

Tales of Shivaji Maharaj Sajjangad - Ram Das Temple, Satara (India)

Conversation at Swami Ramdas Temple, Satara (India), 30 December 1982. In the music score, I must say the Western people have done so much better. What about the Indians? When are they going to take to music? I mean, there is no progress as far as music is concerned. We have great musicians in this Sahaja Yoga group like Mrs. Venugopalan and all that, but somehow or other, I find that the music is not coming up. What’s the reason? In Maharashtra, of course, we’ve so many people who can do something about it. They haven’t done anything. Better get these things translated. You can’t sing that fast in, I don’t think in Indian way. Beautiful, fantastic, is the word, I tell you. So now, we are ready for the war, is it? You play that very well eh? [Aside comments] Where should I keep it safe? [inaudible……]  Is everything safe? All these stones, are these stones [unclear]. If you could ever do that, is to go to a place called Bhilwara. There you find huge big marble stones. I feel this is not real marble. This is something like marble, but not real marble. But real marble, worked out in one big stone, the whole thing worked out like that and very beautiful. This is only one of them, you can see. But this is not real marble. Marble is on the sides. Sides are marble. All is marble, here down below. But all this is a kind of a stone which is being Read More …

Conversation with Rustom on cold liver and horoscope London (England)

Conversation with Rustom on Shri Mataji’s horoscope, cold liver, London, 1982-10-13 Shri Mataji [reading her horoscope]: I must say, the things they have written, if anybody reads. I mean, just, one sentence I must read it [Laughter; inaudible].He will be happy to know. I don’t know, so many complications of course, this and that, and that house in that and this one.Indians life of course … [incomprehensible][Laughter]Dr. Rustom I hope he saw that humour about You.Shri Mataji: He has proved little be of a [inaudible], it’s all right, but – Yes, something like Jupiter, you see. The trouble is, everything seems to be in his house you see. This, I can’t understand how it is happening. It’s like Lord is in the house, sort of thing is going on. The aspect of strong Jupiter lord of ten. From an Area sign on the intellectual planet Mercury. What does that mean? I don’t know.Lord and sub-lord of ‘lagna’ [moment of the sun’s entrance into a zodiacal sign]. ‘lagna’ is quite as ascendant.Dr. Rustom Ah. ‘lagna’ up to the Cancer. [Indian language]Shri Mataji: But Lord and sub-lord of ‘lagna’.Dr. Rustom He has a curious system. I know this charting called Krihsnamurti’s system. You divide each house into seven or nine parts. And each part is ruled by certain planet. So, if your ‘lagna’ – so, according to him your ‘lagna’ is in Methon I think according to him.Shri Mataji: Jupiter.Dr Rustom: And that part of Methon is ruled by Mercury. So, it’s Read More …

Conversation (Evening) Gregoire's Flat, Vienna (Austria)

1982-0927 Evening at Gregoire`s flat Vienna, Austria Many people mother were very interested and asking and Mother, many people were asking and very interested and they wanted to know more about you and they are going to come tomorrow. Vibrations were so cool. Shri Mataji: very cool vibrations. They had come today after ___0:29__ I must say it was very great the translation, because I speak quite complicated. Gregoire: first of all the picture too much, too much too much. Now I translate. Yogini: which page. Gregoire: these days the Kundalini power will also be in Vienna awakened. And then the title, the breath of God blows over the top of the head and in the palms of the hand. Now the text, and then on your picture it is written `feminine Guru Mataji`. Then at the last a Guru who does not take any money. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi called Mataji by Her disciples also simply Mother, is in Vienna. She is in London, married to a high diplomat. She does not need any material support, and from 1970 onwards, she teaches the world wide Sahaja Yoga then we quote spontaneous link between the everyday being, living and risen with our deeper divine being, soul of being and this comes from the information which is distributed during the seminars and the conferences which She gives. According to Shri Mataji is actualized as in the human being the sleeping potential spiritual energy of Kundalini the energy of the holy spirit Read More …

Conversation, These Are the Days of Confusion Freiburg (Germany)

Conversation, These Are the Days of Confusion [Missing part] Shri Mataji: [Fraud] he is? Sahaja Yogi: Very, very, very, very. Sahaja Yogis: Devil. Devil. Shri Mataji: Devas. Sahaja Yogi: Devil. Shri Mataji: Oh, devil. He is a devil himself. Why should you work with him? He’s, he is Ravana, who had said to Sita that, “I’ll molest the chastity of women of India.” But he could not do it much. Sahaja Yogi: No. Sahaja Yogini: Mother, has the second one got the powers of Ravana as well? Shri Mataji: Aaaa? Sahaja Yogini: Has this second one got the powers of Ravana, or one of Ravana’s brothers he is? Shri Mataji: What’s it? Sahaja Yogini: The second. Sahaja Yogi: Rajneesh. Sahaja Yogini: Rajneesh. Has he got the power? Shri Mataji: I don’t know. These are stories I am telling you. I don’t know. I’m not bothered. Sahaja Yogini: Mother, as well is [one of] printed matter in India. One of Your disciples collected anything printed out [unclear]? Shri Mataji: No, I can ask. I can ask. So I am able to tell you all these things. Hmmm. See now, the story about him, another story, seem to be many stories. Another story they said is that Rajneesh was never shaved since he was a diabetic patient. And as a diabetic patient he used to eat a lot. That’s good. He got a neck problem, was not very seriously sick. But they took a certificate from a doctor saying that he’s very Read More …

Conversation, The Sects Lausanne (Switzerland)

The beginning of the talk is not on the tape “Sahaja yogi : …[…feel they are sent by France]Shri Mataji: Now another [Christian country], Switzerland. Now England are the people who dominated all over the world. Went up to China and see, who are they to get out of their place?They went everywhere; in India they stayed for three hundred years. And now they don’t allow Indians to stay even for three months! And openly they are racists! These are Christians! Look at the French, the great Christ-ians of France! Christ has said : “Thou shallt not have adulterous eyes.” Every third lamppost you meet a prostitute in that country, and every seventh lamppost you see a pub there! They are Christians: no morality, and no respect for themselves, self and body, such indecent people! These are Christians.Then Germans, when they fought, they killed so many people, they were still believing in Christ and God, and they said we are killing the Jews because they didn’t believe in Christ. Now Jews are killing the Arabs because they don’t believe in Jews. [Laugh]This is just madness, I mean, just think of Christ what would he think of the people who are supposed to be Christians? We must face ourselves and see that we have to do a lot, if we have to really make Christ live within us.Shri Mataji : Alright, that’s alright,Sahaja yogi : Bolo Shri Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi ki,Sahaja yogis : Jai!Shri Mataji : It was a nice Read More …

Talk to Sahaja Yogis: Western Woman Bianca's House, Versoix (Switzerland)

1982-0825 Talk to Sahaja Yogis, Western Women, Bianca’ House, Versoix, Switzerland Gruhalakshmi hee?Sahaja Yogini:Shri. Mataji.:Sahaja Yogini:Shri. Mataji.: I might say the camera is great.Sahaja Yogi: [Laughter].Shri. Mataji.: [Laughs.] Or the cameraSahaja Yogi:Shri. Mataji.:Sahaja Yogi:Shri. Mataji.: Now, this is in the West.Sahaja Yogi: I know.Shri. Mataji.: Now, the people, the women are intelligent and the women of the West being intelligent and educated have developed a kind of a very complex situation around themselves.Sahaja Yogi: Ya. They also can earn money, Mother.Shri. Mataji.: Yes, and they also handle their own money. These things have made them a kind of a man without manliness, and that is why their whole behavior becomes extremely odd. Sometimes I just don’t understand, but now I’ve started understanding, that the way the women are, they want to dominate men. But they don’t understand that by dominating you cannot create good relationship.Now, to dominate a man one way could be just to go on behaving like a man, you see, pushing him around and all that, saying, “Don’t do this. I don’t like it. This is not good. That is not good.” But that is not so sophisticated. So, the other way is to all the time talk about the miseries of your past. “I am like this. This is wrong with me.” All the time she’s sick. All the time she’s miserable. All the time she’s insecure. All the time she’s so dependent, she needs her husband. She wants the attention of the husband. The husband Read More …

Talk to Doctors, Hormones Derby (England)

Talk to Doctors, “Hormones”. Derby (England), 10 July 1982. Sahaja Yogi: Mullerian duct is something new about these two main lines that are in the [embryo]. Another Sahaja Yogi: Yes, it is the, reproducts it and the… Sahaja Yogi: They reproduce in the kidney, they reproduce and [unclear] I would [unclear]. I have no idea. You see [unclear] in the embryo Shri Mataji, the first thing they develop, it’s very interesting, is the, the brain. Not the brain but the neuron placement. [Alternative] separates to form the spinal cord. Kundalini in other words does [create] that. Not in the spinal cord. What is it ? the neuron, Christy? Another Sahaja Yogi: Is the neuron tube. Sahaja Yogi: It’s the, it’s the basis of that, of the spine itself. Another Sahaja Yogi: The neuron tube. Shri Mataji: The medullar cord itself. Sahaja Yogi: Ha, and the segments. And then the rest developments around it, half. But all that endocrine glands come from this reed, this pattern it’s the very interesting. Shri Mataji: That means that they are from the Ida and Pingala. Sahaja Yogi: Hmm. Shri Mataji: They are the stored energy of Ida and Pingala. Sahaja Yogi: Because it emits two side things afterwards, [none] of them, Mullerian ducts or something like that. Shri Mataji: Actually, first they are formed, then maintain them. Sahaja Yogi: That’s right. First that is right, first to do like that, these Mullerian ducts, you know. Shri Mataji: Why are they [doctors]? Because they are Read More …

Conversation with French Yogis Brompton Square House, London (England)

Conversation with French Yogis, Brompton Square, London, UK, June, 15th, 1982 Shri Mataji: To Me? What’s that? Alexandre: Some cherries. Shri Mataji: All right, thank you very much. Thank you, very kind of you. So, I’m very happy with the French for the way you people have done it. And I want you to do the same here now. Somehow, you’ll have to work it out and I don’t know how, how will you work it out. Sahaja Yogi: Somebody, some people could stay here for a while and maybe work it out. Shri Mataji: Yes. Alexandre: This is the wool you bought from Chelsea, Mother. Also, what happened is the French contribution, part of the French contribution, Robert gave Shri Mataji: Ah, this is the one, yes. Alexandre: Gave you a cheque note and he couldn’t put it in the bank. So, we want you to have cash this time, of this money. For the Bombay ashram, Mother. Shri Mataji: It could not be cashed. Alexandre: Yes, Mother. Shri Mataji: What was the thing with that? Genevieve or your cheque – which one was not cashed?. Alexandre: French cheque Mother, from Robert in Paris. Shri Mataji: How much was it? Alexandre: Five thousand Francs. Sahaja Yogi: Five hundred pounds. Shri Mataji: Five hundred pounds. Is it returned? It was returned to him? Alexandre: No, he said that you have to- this cheque is blocked at his bank, you can’t. His bank will not pay it now, anyway. So, he Read More …

Conversation With Joseph At Lunch Madrid (Spain)

Conversation With Joseph At Lunch, Madrid (Spain) [The seeker Joseph will be speaking in Spanish and a Sahaja Yogi will translate]Shri Mataji: Hello.Joseph (seeker) : Hello.Shri Mataji: Yes, yes. You give him bandhan. Something or you give the booklet.May God Bless You.Shri Mataji: Just a minute. We’ll come, we’ll come. Now the second center of Swadishthan. Swadishthan, second center moves all over.Shri Mataji: No, No. That is third center. You see the second center.Shri Mataji: Give him, give him that. You write it in it.Shri Mataji: What he is saying?Sahaja Yogi: He says this is very interesting. The most interesting thing is to know You. He says he is very materialized. But he hopes to dematerialize himself.Shri Mataji: God is in everything. On physical level if you have problems then you have to use the gems.Shri Mataji: Alright.Too much.Today I will tell about. Today I will tell you all the sides.Sahaja Yogi : He is going to [London?][Not Clear]Shri Mataji: Knowledge is within yourself. You don’t need any book.Sahaja Yogi: He is just saying he is very angry with himself. Because he was meant to come at 9 o’ clock and he had to work and he is going to.Shri Mataji: He is good. Whatever he has done is good because now we are free to talk.Shri Mataji: Second center, Swadishthana. Swadishthana is the second centerIt’s written down. It is for the creative, for creativity. It also transforms your fat cells for your brain.Shri Mataji: No Umbiligo is third [center]. Read More …