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Radio Enghien Interview hold on telephone Marie Rouger’s flat, Paris (France)

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Interview on Radio Enghien, Marie Rouger’s flat (175 avenue Ledru-Rollin 75012), Paris (France), September 29th, 1984 Interviewer [speaks in French]: She is known in India as the greatest woman of these days. She comes to propose to Westerners as well as to Orientals a new stage in their conscience which was promised by Jesus-Christ himself. We can ask Shri Mataji how to achieve this new state of conscience and what will it bring to us?Marie: The question is how to reach this new state of consciousness and what will t bring us? Shri Mataji: This new state of consciousness, to begin with, should be called as Collective Consciousness and I should be achieved spontaneously.You don’t have to exert, you don’t have to pay for it, it is spontaneously happening, f there is somebody who knows how to awaken the residual power called Kundalini within you. Interviewer [speaks in French]: Très bien, on peut aussi se poser la question de savoir comment se manifeste ce nouvel état de conscience si, dans le passé déjà, des personnes en ont parlé dans notre civilisation, aussi bien que dans d’autres civilisations.Marie: Now, how does this awareness manifest itself, and what have been the manifestations of awareness in the past, now, as there have been people who have manifested this awareness. Shri Mataji: In the tradition of spirituality, it has been happening for thousands of years. But in the beginning of time, the tree of life had few flowers which became the fruits. But I Read More …

Radio Interview Vienna (Austria)

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Her Holiness Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Radio Interview, Oe3 Dabei 05 September, 1984, Vienna, Austria INTERVIEWER: But I don’t understand too much about that subject, that You as a lady are the teacher, not only the teacher, the founder of a yoga–theory. Is this in common in India, that also women do it? I read that You say that all comes from Mother Nature and therefore are there many women that were teachers in the case You are, or are You in this sense of course a unique person? SHRI MATAJI: (Shri Mataji laughing) It’s a rather embarrassing question, isn’t it? I think a Mother can do better job than anybody else, in this respect, but you have to have a lot of patience with people, isn’t it? Say if it was Christ, He is very nice, He got crucified and finished the job. You see, He was so disgusted and Shri Krishna would take His Sudarshan and kill people. But if you have to really emancipate people, if you have to really see that they get what they have, you have to have real patience of a Mother. INTERVIEWER: So can You give me some not private details on Your family’s life. I read as well in Your bio, that now Your daughters are married, and then You started to do what You are doing nowadays. So did You influence them as they were kids? Or when did You start to create Your theory, Your yoga? SHRI MATAJI: No, Read More …

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Look East BBC TV Interview Cambridge (England)

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TV Interview, Cambridge (UK) 13 August 1984. Interviewer: She is here over the last few years who according to their followers have the one true message. Well, the latest to visit the Eastern counties, 62-year-old Indian woman Shri Mataji who lays claim to the title of India’s greatest saint but her brand of yoga doesn’t only lead to a serenity that can transform people’s lives. It even produces a cool soothing wind out of thin air. Rather sceptical, Julia Booth caught up with Shri Mataji in Cambridge. This man was a drug addict. His life in tatters at the mercy of LSD. He met Shri Mataji, learnt her Sahaja Yoga as it’s called in a few minutes and now he’s prosperous and happy. It isn’t physical yoga, it’s based around something called Kundalini, which is a sort of inner energy, which when released can apparently give you serenity and cure illnesses. The great Indian leader Mahatma Gandhi met her when she was a child. He recognized her gift and invited her to live and learn with his household. Her teachings follow no specific religion and are imparted in minutes. Receiving physical proof, apparently, a cool breeze can be felt from the head when you’re enlightened. Shri Mataji: It comes up here and pierces through this area called the fontanel bone area and you start feeling a cool breeze coming out of your head and that is the time we should say it’s a real baptism because that’s the time when Read More …

Radio Derby Interview BBC Radio Derby, Derby (England)

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Radio Interview Interview: You feel it on your hands. You feel it emitting from the top of the head. You feel it flowing over the body but that’s not the only thing. This is an outer experience because your central nervous system becomes enlightened by these vibrations but inwardly you start to feel a very joyful person. You start to feel the silence. You know that what is happening inside you is transforming all the things that were negative or undesirable within yourself into something positive and what’s more, you can give it to others. And that’s the most beautiful part. Shri Mataji, you were at the Guild Hall in Derby last night for a meeting there. How did that meeting go? Shri Mataji: Oh very well. I never had such a nice meeting before in Derbyshire. It was wonderful. People were very beautiful. I think certainly awareness is showing in England which is very promising. I have been here for 10 years and I’ve been struggling to work it out because I think England is very important, it’s the spiritual field. It is the heart of the universe and people have to understand it. And I found this year, it has suddenly taken a new turn in the awareness of people, they are started looking at it from another angle whereas maybe the controversy that is on about the miracles of Christ’s life and I’m here to prove that all the miracles were true. Absolutely true. I mean you Read More …

Radio Interview Brighton (England)

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Radio Interview. Brighton (UK), 26 July 1984. Interviewer: This time show. Now nowadays there are many people who reach a state of depression, unsure which way they should turn, often taking drugs to compensate, looking to religious or alternative lifestyles to shed a new light on their lives when now apparently a silent revolution has been growing, led by a spiritual leader, Shri Mataji. I am pleased to welcome Her to the studio now. Hello, Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji: Hello. Interviewer: Now, first of all, let’s talk about the thing that you, the process you are involved in. It’s called Sahaja Yoga. Shri Mataji: Yes. Interviewer: First of all, let’s ascertain what exactly yoga is. Shri Mataji: Yoga means, there are two meanings to word yoga. The first meaning is the union with the Divine that your attention becomes one with the Divine, or you can say that you become one with the Spirit. Second meaning of yoga is depthness. Or you can as call it technique, depthness of the divine laws. But unless and until you get united with the Divine you cannot use the technique. Interviewer: Right, now… Shri Mataji: Sahaja means, “saha” means with, “ja” means born, means it is spontaneous. It is a living process of evolutionary ascent, the last breakthrough. Interviewer: Right. Now, taking it one step further, how do you go about, what is this? Is it, it’s the Self-realization. Is this the same thing? Shri Mataji: Yes, it is Self-realization. It is the Read More …

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Success stories with Janet Turner Los Angeles (United States)

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TV Interview “Success stories with Janet Turner”. Los Angeles (USA), 1983. Reporter: The Academy award-wining Movie about Gandhi, made many Americans aware of the great work this man accomplished in India. My next guest worked with Gandhi but she is here in America now to help us find what she calls “Self-realization” Stay tuned! I think you are going to find this very interesting. Her name is Shri Mataji.Reporter: Did I say it OK?Shri Mataji: It’s good. [laughter]Reporter: It’s actually longer than that! But we are not even going to try that. [laughter]I just got to ask, was Gandhi anything like the actor who portrayed him in the movie?Shri Mataji: Oh! Very much. Very well done. The only thing was the style of talking of Gandhi was rather more Indian. This fellow was over brilliant, I think.Reporter: Over brilliant?Shri Mataji: And he would answer everything in such an alert way, and Gandhi ji was a very slow speaker. That’s it.Reporter: It took little longer to come out.Shri Mataji: Yes. That’s it, you see.Reporter: But they portrayed him so perfect like a saint. Is that true?Shri Mataji: Yes, you see, they have done it very well. And the lady who has worked it out, I know her very well. She is a very intelligent lady who did all the dress up and all that. She is very intelligent woman. Reporter: They chose her well. Wasn’t there anything that ever got him angry or?Shri Mataji: No, he used to be very angry. Read More …

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TV Interview Vancouver (Canada)

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TV Interview Shri Mataji: …meaning Your attention with your spirit. That what Christ was said, that we are born again. And this born again it is not just certificate, it’s not something artificial, but it is happening within us, you can see it clearly, the rising of this power from your secret bone. Greeks knew the meaning of the word sacrum because sacrum means secret. And this power rises you can feel it, like a heart bit going up, on the top of your head near of your fontanel bone area, and you can also, later on, feel the cool breeze coming out of your head, like an air conditioner. So You become collectively conscious as a result of it. You become, it’s not just talking about it, it is actualizing, this its real spiritual yoga. Correspondent: You are divine, what does it mean? Shri Mataji: Divine means a person who has a connection with the divine Correspondent: It does not mean you are a child? Shri Mataji: It can be, childlike Correspondent: I see, should we not have an attribute of divinity Shri Mataji: In the way, I have, because in my presence thousands of people can get this experience of self-realization. Correspondent: Do not you respect to be subjective of hundreds of gurus. Shri Mataji: I know… Correspondent: …to be subjected to all sort of thing which is coming of your country which is galvanized thousands of people, also been subjected to this kind of philosophy, so many Read More …

CBC Radio Interview “The Planet” Vancouver (Canada)

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CBC Radio Interview “The Planet” Presenter: [Missing part] come to Vancouver. But unlike some others this one is not after your money. As a matter of fact, She brands those gurus or teachers that are after your money as fakes. Shri Mataji Devi lives in London with Her husband, the United Nations diplomat. As a child in India She knew She was different, and Her character trait Mahatma Gandhi also recognized when he asked Her to stay and worked with him. In 1970 Shri Mataji began Her mission in bringing peace and enlightenment to the world’s people and She is here in Vancouver, this week. You don’t take money or ask for it? Shri Mataji: (Laughes) No, no. You can’t pay for it. It is God’s love. How can you pay? How much do you have to pay for it? Presenter: How do you finance Your projects? Shri Mataji: You see, I travel by Myself because My husband can afford it. And the people who have their own centers, they manage their own, because they live there. They pay for the rent and they manage their own. I don’t take any money from them at all for My own maintenance or anything. Sometimes they do pay Me for My travels. Sometimes. Not to Me but to the, I should say, to the travel agent. Presenter: So they pay Your travelling expenses. Shri Mataji: Sometimes. Very rarely. Presenter: Gurus that do ask for money then, You say, are automatically fakes. Shri Read More …

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Seminar Day 1 Kennolyn Camps, Santa Cruz (United States)

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Seminar in Santa Cruz, California (USA). 1 October 1983. I am really enamoured to see so many of my children. I have been able to find them back. It’s such a great thing to see them after such a long time. While I came here 10 years back and none of them could feel the importance of Mother’s love, and now such a tremendous thing has happened that it has worked, and that people are feeling that great thing called the subtle energy of Mother’s love. Now in these ten years I have been all over the world – Australia, Europe, England, India – but I must tell you my attention was in America all the time. I was longing for the day when I would feel like coming back to this country because I thought, ten years back, it was too early. They have to learn it, what truth is. They have to go through it. They had been too cocksure. Unless and until it works out that way, they are not going to accept Sahaja Yoga. What you accept in Sahaja Yoga is yourself, is your Spirit, is your power of Kundalini and by which the responsibility that, when you get this Realization, you have to settle down with it and know all about it. You have to become a guru, a pure sattwa and then the guru of others. In short, Sahaja Yoga is the epitome of our evolution. That is what we are made human beings Read More …

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Kazu Radio Interview Kennolyn Camps, Santa Cruz (United States)

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Kazu Radio Interview. Santa Cruz, California (USA), 1 October 1983. (Aarti ending.) Shri Mataji: Beautiful! Sahaja Yogi: Bolo Shri Adi Shakti Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi ki! Jai! Shri Mataji: Who is the gentleman who met Me in Kamini Kadam’s house? Sahaja Yogi: Are right there. Shri Mataji: Hello, how do you do? Very nice to meet you. Both of you were there? Gentleman: Yes. Shri Mataji: All right. May God bless you. Shri Mataji: How are you sleeping? Gentleman: Fine, thank You. Shri Mataji: May God bless you. Nice to meet you again. Sahaja Yogi: Mother, a lady from Kazu Radio actually who is coming as a seeker but has also arranged that, if an interview is possible. Shri Mataji: All right. Sahaja Yogi: Barbara! This is Barbara. Shri Mataji: Yes. So today we should have questioning only will be good idea. All right? Barbara: Thank you, Mother. Shri Mataji: May God bless you. Barbara: Before we begin, I would like to introduce myself to those of you in the room. My name is Barbara Schuler and I do a radio program on a station from Monterrey called Discovery, which is usually on Wednesdays from 1 to 2:30, and is going to be now on Thursdays to 11:30 to 1 o’clock. And it’s my privilege to be here to do a taped interview for my listeners. So for the listeners I would like to say that we are at Kennolyn Campgrounds in Santa Cruz and this is an interview with Read More …

Radio KFI Interview Los Angeles (United States)

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Interview Radio KFI, Los Angeles (USA), 25 September 1983. Broadcaster: Good morning. We hear a lot about gurus and various spiritual leaders these days, and a lot of times it’s hard to tell real ones from phony ones. And recently there was a segment on a news program – Sixty Minutes – talking about some false guru and today, to talk about that and a lot of other things, we have a woman who has many names – and You’ll have to let me know which – what You prefer to be called. But You’ve been called Holy Mother, Founder of the Sahaja Yogi Movement – is that the right way to say it? Anyway, You’ve also been called a faith healer, a saint, a Goddess – so many different names! Anyway, I’d like to welcome Shri Mataji. I’m not very good at Indian names. But anyway, You were born in India, were active in India’s struggle for independence from England, and personally knew … Shri Mataji: No, not from England, in India only. Broadcaster: OK. And personally knew Mahatma Gandhi and now You’re a grandmother and married to a United Nations diplomat in London – so many different roles. Welcome to Los Angeles. Shri Mataji: Thank you. Broadcaster: I can’t wait to hear a little bit more about what You’re doing and how You feel about things. Well, with so many descriptions of Yourself, how do You prefer to be known to Americans? Do You have a … particularly, Read More …

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TV Interview Los Angeles (United States)

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TV Interview, Los Angeles, USA, 1983 Interviewer: Joining me right now is Shri Mataji and She is known throughout the world as a saint. And that’s the first time that I have been able to meet a saint. And you’re also a faith healer or psychic healer, I guess some people call you. But when asked in a recent interview as to whether or not you were a saint or considered yourself to be a saint, you had a very unusual answer. Are you? Shri Mataji: Actually, you cannot certify yourself isn’t it as anything? The quality of a saint is that he can make other saints. If he can make others saints, then he’s a saint. Otherwise, it’s just self-certification. Interviewer: Can you make other people saints? Shri Mataji: I think so, yes. Interviewer: How would you define a centre? What would another person become that would make him a saint? Shri Mataji: The person who becomes a saint develops a new awareness as a result of a living process of evolution that he becomes the Spirit as described by Christ that: “You are to be born again”. And in that, the awareness becomes: it’s actualization. It’s not just mental projection but actualization, that you become a person who is Collectively Conscious. Interviewer: You mentioned Christ and yet you are from an Eastern country being from India. Do you believe in Jesus Christ? Shri Mataji: Of course, of course! He plays a very big role in your evolution. He is the Read More …

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TV Interview, Houston Live Houston (United States)

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T.V. Interview with Shri Mataji. Houston(live) 22-091983 Interviewer:(music playing) Hi. (No sound ) with me today is Shri Mataji. She is considered to be a guru, a prophet, a faith healer and in India she is called a Saint. We will be right back to talk to her after this. Some music playing. (some advertisement) She is a guru and a lot of other things. Which of those do you consider yourself to be? Shri Mataji: I would say I am just a Mother and mother can be anything isn’t it? Interviewer: Is it unusual for a woman to be a guru? Shri Mataji: No it should not. On the contrary I am not a guru as such, because I am a mother I am also a guru. And it is important that the time has come for the feminine qualities to manifest. We have had manly qualities where people had competitions and they developed in such a way as if the tree has grown outside and now the tree has to grow inside,inward to get to the source, for its nourishment.Its only the mother who can nourish it, isn’t? She is the only one who could be compassionate, and affectionate and kind. Interviewer: You have said some real harsh things about orthodox religions. Why is that? Shri Mataji:I didn’t mean to be harsh with them but I think they have mislayed the people very much as far as the religion is concerned. Any religion you take that they are propounding Read More …

Interview: 8 questions to Shri Mataji in Mulhouse Mulhouse (France)

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Interview de Shri Mataji, 8 questions to Shri Mataji, Mulhouse, France, September the second, 1983 Interviewer: ….L’éveil du Soi et la Kundalini, le Sahaja Yoga était ces jours derniers à Mulhouse, effectuant une tournée de conférences en Autriche et en Suisse, notamment à Genève, Lausanne et Vienne. Shri Mataji, et c’est assez étonnant, a choisi comme 1ère ville régionale française, Mulhouse, métropole Haut-Rhinoise. Mais justement, pourquoi ce choix, pourquoi le Sahaja Yoga ? Et un certain nombre d’autres questions, 8 au total, que nous avons posées à Shri Mataji avant son départ pour Vienne, et au lendemain d’une conférence qui s’est déroulée à la Société Industrielle, devant une salle comble, et qui sans aucun doute, aura suscité des réactions diverses. Shri Mataji, Vous allez quitter Mulhouse, première ville française de province à Vous accueillir. Peut-on savoir les raisons exactes qui ont motivé cette venue alors que de grandes métropoles provinciales de l’Hexagone ne Vous ont pas encore reçue? Alexandre (French translator): Shri Mataji, you are going to leave Mulhouse, first provincial French town, who has welcome you. Could we know exactly the reason of your motivation? Because there are so much big other metropoles in the hexagone of France who have not yet received you? Shri Mataji: It is all God’s work and wherever he takes Me, I have to go there. But, I found out, from some people of Mulhouse, that there are many seekers in this place who are seeking truly, ardently. Interviewer: Deuxième question, seconde et grande question Read More …

Radio Interview Geneva (Switzerland)

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Shri Mataji: [? but] important that we still linger on with other trips, like [? ego trips)]. So if somebody talks big we believe him. These people are money-oriented and they have lots of money and they can put in advertisements and we get impressed by [unclear]. Recently, to My surprise, I discovered that in England they have something called “chequebook journalism”.  Sahaja Yogi (to Swiss translator): It means that the journalist – I don’t know if it’s true – that there is payment made to journalists for reporting according to what they personally want.  Shri Mataji: That’s the phrase they use, chequebook journalism.  Swiss translator (to Shri Mataji): He (a man speaking French) asks – in Geneva it is the first time that he saw such a publicity for a personality like You. All the advertisements, papers in the [letterbox] and very big posters all over the place, and he said: “This cost lots of money.”  Shri Mataji: No, it did not. What happened [was] that we did not pay to anyone. Luckily, the authorities allowed us to quickly [unclear]. But we didn’t give anybody under the table any money.  Sahaja Yogi: Printing costs [unclear]. Shri Mataji: Also there are so many Sahaja Yogis all over the world, for example these people from Australia were sending some posters for America.  But I will tell you about how the gurus work. You see what they do, they [? get to] some journalist, give them a large amount of money, to Read More …

Radio 74 Interview Geneva (Switzerland)

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1983-08-24 Radio 74 Interview (Geneva) Part 1 and 2. Lady interviewer:  Could you join me now in a very cordial and very special welcome to Shri Mataji.  A great welcome to You. Shri Mataji:  Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Lady interviewer:  In the.. in the country of India, I know that there is much talk of… the word ‘enlightenment’ is used in a way that perhaps we of this world don’t fully understand.   Would that be a place to start, that You talk to us a little bit about enlightenment and then go into Your own message? Shri Mataji:  Yes.  India has a special advantage over many other countries, as far as the nature is concerned, because the nature of our country is such that people don’t have to worry so much of combating the nature.  It’s warm country, and it has… it’s a very fertile country and it doesn’t require too much for you to exist in that place.  You can even exist under a tree.  It’s a …you can lead a very, very simple life in India and you need not have all the [elaborations] we  need here to fight the nature.  As a result of that, many people who were quite satisfied with their mundane lives took to deeper seeking – thousands of years back – in that country, where they wanted to find out the secrets of life, and they wanted to know why we are on this earth and why we Read More …

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Newspaper Interview Ashram in Le Raincy, Le Raincy (France)

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Newspaper Interview, Ashram in Le Raincy, France, June 17th, 1983 Shri Mataji: I beg your pardon? Journalist: [Inaudible] Shri Mataji: All right, she will translate it. Thank you. Journalist: Alors ma Mère, je représente un journal d’Alsace, L’Alsace, à Mulhouse et je suis Réalisé à Mulhouse mais je viens vous parler en tant que journaliste. Marie [translator]: I represent a newspaper in Mulhouse. I come to talk to you as a journalist but I got my Realization in Mulhouse. Shri Mataji: All right, you come here, I think that would be better. Because if you have to translate him to Me and I’ll be able- I’m very happy to meet you and to hear that you have come from Mulhouse and we have some Sahaja Yogis in Mulhouse. They have not been there. I’m very happy you could come here and I’m very happy about it. Marie: He is very happy and very moved to meet you. And before starting the interview he’d like to ask you if you, one day, think you will come to Mulhouse. Shri Mataji: Yes, I will definitely. But first, I must apologize for getting late because he knows that my grand-children just arrived so I was late. So, please apologize. I will definitely come one day to Mulhouse, no doubt. Marie: You are the master of time. Shri Mataji: Thank you. Journalist: On vous nomme Mère. Est-ce parce que vous avez réactualisé le Sahaja Yoga ou parce que vous vous dites l’incarnation de la Read More …

Radio Interview Brighton (England)

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Radio Interview, Brighton (England), Friday, May 27th, 1983 Weeks ago on Gioanna’s program and Gionna was actually here, Jillian Copeland came in to discuss a new, well new to us, anyway, yoga, called “Sahaja” I think that is the correct pronunciation. Well at that time Jillian wanted to know if it is possible for her to bring Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi back, I think I‘ve pronounced all that correctly. And we suggest we would be delighted, well, we are delighted because both Jillian and Mataji are with us. Jillian first welcomes and thank you for coming back. [Jillian: Thank you] And now maybe you could give us some information about Mataji. Jillian: Shri Mataji is the wife of the very prominent gentleman in the Maritime Organization and she has spent quite a lot of her time giving Self-Realization to people who wanted. And for your people who are listening, I would ask them, as an experiment, if they could please put their hand’s palm outwards while Shri Mataji is talking and see if you can feel a cool breeze on your hands. If you can then I would urge you to come on to our meeting in Brighton centre this evening at 7:30 p.m. and find out what it is you are feeling. Interviewer: That sounds very interesting may I turn to you and say welcome and Is it a new ..it seems more meditation than actual yoga which I would always believe was exercise? Shri Mataji: Actually in the Read More …

Newspaper Interview before the up-coming USA Tour with Stan Bostock published in Zireus on May 1983 London (England)

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Newspaper Interview before the up-coming USA Tour with Stan Bostock published in Zireus on May 1983 The aim was to talk to Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi about her forthcoming North American tour. What happened was something that is only now, a week later, starting to make sense. I telephoned the number Shri Mataji’s followers in New York had given me, and found myself, an hour later, knocking on the carved door of a five storied terraced house in London’s classy Knightsbridge district. The door was opened by a young Indian who ushered me into a reception room as ornate and rich as a jewel box. Furniture covered with rose silk, tables inlaid with ivory, carved and gilded wooden screens, pale pink crystal chandeliers. I heard Shri Mataji before I saw her.“How are you? How is America?” Then the lady appeared, short, plump, with long dark hair falling free, and a smile that chips away all the defenses. Tea was ordered and I was asked to sit down. Before I could get the first question into gear Shri Mataji asked, “Do you know what the chakras are?” I mumbled something about subtle energy centers along the spine. “That’s right,” she said, and tapped the base of her neck with her index finger. “This one is called the vishuddhi. In the universe the vishuddhi is North America. Australia is the lowest chakra, the mooladhara. India is the kundalini. which can link all the chakras together,” she traced a line from the base Read More …

ABC Radio Interview Sydney (Australia)

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H.H.Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi speaking to Margaret Throsby, host of the ‘Morning Extra’ program, ABC Radio. Sydney, Australia. (1983-0315) Reporter: ..greatest living saint. Her name is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi and She will be my guest after the music. Reporter: Hi again, as we were on air with publicity. For the Richard Attenborough’s film of his life. But how many people can say they knew Gandhi and knew him well over a period of years? My next guest can, She is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, the founder of the world wide Sahaja Yoga movement and She’s visiting Australia for a series of lectures. Good morning! Shri Mataji: Good morning! Reporter: and welcome to “City extras”. Shri Mataji: Thanks! Reporter: This isn’t Your first visit to Australia, is it? Shri Mataji: No, I came a year before this. Reporter: When were You here last? Shri Mataji: Same time, about same time. Reporter: How did You meet Gandhi? Shri Mataji: My father was a member of the Congress and also My mother and that’s how we were very much very close to him. And Mahatma Gandhi came to stay in a place called Wantha, which was only sixty miles from the place we all lived. So we all used to visit him, first time when I was about seven years of age. And he asked My father if he could give Me to him for his own company, My father agreed and I stayed on with him. Reporter: How long did You Read More …

2JJJ FM Radio Interview Sydney (Australia)

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H.H.Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi being interviewed on 2JJJ FM Radio (ABC Radio). Sydney, Australia. (1983-0315) Interviewer:…is 12 and now here’is Tony Walker on the leadership trials on Mid-south [?]. If you think there’s no room left in the world for any more gurus, I’d say you are wrong, there’s one in town at the moment, She’s not exactly new, having been a friend of the Mahatma Gandhi’s, She’s nonetheless nowhere near as high profiled as one of the shri rajnesh or the maharishi, or the guru maharaji. She’s in fact Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, and I translate literally as “The Immaculate Goddess”, She claims to be the only link between the Creator God Almighty and mankind, and like many of the others of the kind She doesn’t take money from Her followers, which causes some people to view Her with some suspicion. She sais that She’s by the perfect capitalist and the complete communist, both at one time. Many miracles have been attributed to Her, including healing the death and the cancer sufferers. She claims that the orthodox western Christian churches have lost their direction. I spoke to Her yesterday. Shri Mataji: The message is for all the seekers, those who are seeking beyond, what is available to them now, that we are the Spirit, we are seeking our Spirit. And that can happen to us, because it’s all built in within us to be the Spirit. The whole thing is built in within us during the process of our Read More …

Talkback Radio Interview 3UZ Melbourne (Australia)

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Talkback Radio Interview 3UZ, Mebourne (Australia), 10 March 1983. 3UZ TALKBACK RADIO with Barry Everingham (first quarter of an hour was not recorded) BE: Thank you George. Joan? Is Joan on the line. J: Yes.BE: Now you want to speak to the Mataji about the curing of alopecia?J: Yes I do.BE: We’ll, we’d better explain to the listeners what it is: it’s the falling out of hair in clumps. It’s not baldness.J: Well yes that’s…BE: Is that right?J: It’s areas of baldness.BE: Areas of baldness? In men and women? J: Yes.BE: Are you a sufferer of it?J: Yes I am.BE: Well here’s the Mataji now Joan. Shri Mataji: Hello. See there was one gentleman from Australia who had the same problem. He was cured. And you can come along and get your realisation. After realisation it will all work out. All right? J: What do I have to do? Shri Mataji: Nothing. You just come along and see me. J: Do I have to bring something along or come? Shri Mataji: Just come and see Me. J: Where was it again? BE: Now tomorrow night Joan, it’s at the Exhibition Building, do you know that, in Nicholson Street, Carlton. J: Yes. BE: At 7 o’clock.J: It’s a very big building. BE: Well whereabouts is the… Shri Mataji: It’s the main hall. BE: It’s the main hall. J: The main hall? BE: Yes. J: Yes. BE: That’s at seven o’clock tomorrow night. J: And there was a Sunday one? BE: Yes Read More …

Radio Interview 3DB Melbourne (Australia)

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Radio Interview 3DB, Melbourne (Australia), 10 March 1983. Q: … Right now. Actually to be more specific, She’s in the studio with me right now … Shri Mataji and we’re going to talk to her. Good morning. Shri Mataji: Good morning. Q: How do I address you, do I call you. Shri Mataji: Mother, you can call it, it is better to call Me Mother. Q: All right thank you, Mother. Mother, now you are India’s living saint, do I stand or do I sit, or … Shri Mataji: Yes that’s what they say Q: India’s greatest living saint, and founder of the worldwide Sahaja Yoga. Mostly when we think of spiritual leaders, we think of men, but, quite obviously you’re a woman. Shri Mataji: Yes I am. I think this work can only be done by the Motherly love and compassion and patience, and men can’t have that much patience. I think a Mother was more needed at this time. Q: Men don’t have patience, Shri Mataji? Shri Mataji: I think so, women have more patience, specially Indian women are known for their patience. I don’t know about the women here. If they are copying men then they may not be also having equal patience. Q: What makes Indian women so special where patience is concerned? Shri Mataji: They are brought up that way. They are told that you have to be the bearing power, you have to be like the Mother Earth, so they develop that from their Read More …

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Press Conference and Interview Melbourne (Australia)

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Press Interview, Melbourne, Australia. 8 March 1983. Sahaja Yogi: And Her family members and Herself were the victims of considerable oppression and even jailed, at the time when … prior to British withdrawal. Two thousand years ago? Shri Mataji: So that was the calendar they started. Sahaja Yogi: That was when it started. Shri Mataji: It’s very ancient, even at the time of Shri Krishna. Sahaja Yogi: It’s a most ancient lineage. She’s doing this spiritual work since 1970. The work She’s doing is granting en-masse Self-realization to seekers of truth. There is no organization, there is no money paid. We call ourselves Sahaja Yogis. We’re professional people, we’re business people, we’re ordinary members of the public who just conduct their lives in a perfectly normal way. And She is, I think, well known for being an outspoken critic of many of the false gurus that are purveying their ways in the marketplace today. So, She’ll tell you anything you wish to know about Her message and the work that She’s doing. Basically, it’s to put you in touch with your spirit so that you become a master of your own Self. You don’t depend upon a guru, you don’t depend slavishly upon any other external influence, but you become master of your Self. So without any further introduction I’d like you to meet Mataji Nirmala Devi. Shri Mataji: Now, I think, we should have questions first. Journalist: What is Self-realization and how do You grant it? Shri Mataji: Self-realization Read More …

Radio Falmer Interview University of Sussex, Falmer (England)

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Radio Falmer Interview. University of Sussex, Falmer, near Brighton (UK), 25 October 1982. Phil Ward: Sahaja Yoga Program for Radio Falmer to be broadcast on the 25th of October 1982. Five, four, three, two, one… And this is Phil Ward presenting a look at Sahaja Yoga, a new method of natural meditation through awakening a spiritual energy laid into within each of us called Kundalini. Some quite astonishing claims have been made for this yoga and the effects it has on people’s lives. People have eligibly been cured of various illnesses and addictions and some pretty miraculous seeming transformations have been wrought. The University Sahaja Yoga Society will be holding its inaugural meeting tomorrow, Tuesday, 26th of October, at seven o’clock, in Refactory, level one. And there you can find out for yourself whether its claims are true. Apparently they’ll be giving realization at that meeting and it’s all free. I went to London to interview the leader of Sahaja Yoga, Mataji Nirmala Devi, and we’ll be presenting that interview later in the program. Meanwhile, I talked to the organizer of Sahaja Yoga on campus, Jason Copeland, to find out how Sahaja Yoga had affected him and to get an idea of what it’s all about. Jason, you are a mature student, studying international relations in [?] in, during your…? Jason Copeland: …first year… Phil Ward: …your first year. Tell me, did you have any religious inclinations before you came to Sahaja Yoga? Jason Copeland: None whatsoever. I was brought Read More …

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TV Interview BBC South West, Plymouth (England)

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TV Interview October 21st, 1982 Plymouth, UK Reporter: Her followers see Her as a great spiritual leader, capable of curing all ills, even cancer. Well, these are the sort of claims you’ve probably heard before from many so-called gurus, but for Her fast expanding group of disciples Mataji Nirmala Devi is different. Tonight She brings Her message to a public meeting in Exeter. Mataji, the world of healing and gurus is full of frauds and charlatans. Do you accept that many people might be skeptical about Your claims?Shri Mataji: Of course they should be. Why they are not I don’t understand, you see. You must use your brains and reach right conclusions. Why are you seeking, what are you seeking and whom are you going to. Those people who charge you money and live like parasites on you cannot be your gurus, you see, they are people without any self-respect. Reporter: You don’t charge any money at all?Shri Mataji: Not at all. I mean, how can I charge money for this, is Love, Love of God. How can I charge money for that? Reporter: It’s claimed that even viewers of an interview such as this just by looking at Your picture on the television screen can receive some sort of physical manifestation of Your power. Now, how does that work?Shri Mataji: Yes. By, just if they put their hands towards Me like this even now, they can feel a cool breeze flowing into their hands. So many might feel, as Read More …

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Newspaper Interview Maria’s House, Wellingborough (England)

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Newspaper Interview October 8th, 1982 Wellington, UK Shri Mataji: How are you? Please, What’s your name? Reporter: My name is David [Cooper?], I am (inaudible) Can You tell me why You have come along to Northampton here this week? Shri Mataji: Why I have come here? Reporter: Why You have come along here were you invited by a…. Shri Mataji: It’s a sort of a… kind of a message I have, that a discovery has been made now of a method. Reporter: Is this the first time that You’ve come to Northampton? Shri Mataji: No, I’ve come before also. Reporter: And what sort of response did You get then? Shri Mataji: Response was, I wouldn’t say very good. No newspaper didn’t come at all. Yesterday also there was no one, it’s very surprising. Reporter: You found a lot of people were very skeptical, did You? Shri Mataji: I don’t know what they were like, because no-, nobody came, you see. Reporter: That was the Guild Hall as well? Shri Mataji: No, Guildhall yesterday we had lots of people, yesterday. But as far as the newspapers were concerned, We met some people here. But most of them came to see Me, when I came here first. They were sort of a labor class people. They were suffering from all kinds of maladies like possessions and things, and one gentleman just got up and started walking all around the places and talking like … it was a bit funny. Reporter: In fact, Read More …

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Radio Interview Maria’s House, Wellingborough (England)

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Radio Interview October 8th, 1982 Wellington, UK Reporter: This is Phil Malone for the County Show at the Victoria Centre in Park Road in Wellingborough. With me is Mataji, who teaches Sahaja Yoga. Now, Mataji, what exactly does this yoga involve? Shri Mataji: Sahaja means: “saha” means with, “ja” is born. So whatever is born with you means spontaneous. It is a living process of the living force, which is surrounding us, which is everywhere, which pulsates in everything. And this happening is the breakthrough, the ultimate breakthrough into our unconscious; can be described psychologically. Reporter: So some people call this self-realization. Shri Mataji: Same. Reporter: Now, Your background is from a Christian family in India. Shri Mataji: Yes. Reporter: Is Your teaching involved with Christianity or not? Shri Mataji: It is, of course, because Christ is very important for Sahaja Yoga, no doubt. But the way we understand Christ out of the text of Bible is very limited. We have to see to other texts about Him, and expand, and explain Him, what He meant, because Bible is not sufficient to explain Him. Reporter: So, is Your message one of peace and that’s, in that case, peace in the rest of the world or peace within people? Shri Mataji: Absolutely. Peace within will only bring the peace outside. Whatever we are inside is expressed outside. Reporter: Now, You have had some successes in curing people or healing people in the past. Is this because You work from the inside Read More …

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2nd TV Interview University of Northampton, Northampton (England)

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TV Interview October 7th, 1982 Northampton, UK … Her name is Mataji Nirmala Devi. She trained as a doctor in India and She is now married to a senior diplomat at the United Nations. She lives in London, but this week She’s holding a series of public meetings to publicize Her teachings. She believes that we all have a form of spiritual energy called Kundalini at the base of our spines, which can be awakened and sent flowing through the body. So I took my shoes off and went to meet Her in Northampton this morning. Shri Mataji: You are a person who is more active and tries to think too much, work too much… Reporter: I think too much? Nobody ever said that to me before. Right… Shri Mataji: And you work too much physically, you run about and you are more working outside. And left side is the emotional side, so left side — for emotional life. Well, that’s what is the imbalance in you is. Now for this we have to first give you a balance, all right? What I’ll do is to awaken your frozen side and bring it down so the grace comes over here to satisfy this side. So it is to be awakened, you see, the emotional side is awakened. And this side is given a sort of a soothing effect with the all-pervading Power from your right. So this is, this is how it moves, right? This is the way. Reporter: But Read More …

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1st TV Interview University of Northampton, Northampton (England)

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TV Interview October 7th, 1982 Northampton, UK … wife of a United Nations diplomat. She lives in London now but has thousands of followers around the world, who hail Her as India’s greatest living saint. She teaches a state of self-realization and happiness, and says that with a spiritual force She can cure the incurable. She’s speaking at public meetings in Bedford tonight and Northampton tomorrow, and today She gave Her first television interview in England. Our reporter is Rebecca (inaudible) . Her Holiness Mataji Nirmala Devi is known around the world for Her healing powers. Her followers look upon Her as Divine. Mother, as She is referred to, preaches a gospel of peace and has discovered a spiritual force called Kundalini, which is shown on this chart. She can release it in seekers, as She calls them, to give them complete awareness. She admits that many Westerners are sceptical of Her powers, but She scorns the idea of charging money for Her gifts. Her claims of success in curing and healing are remarkable. Alcoholics have been known to give up drink, drug-takers have been cured, but perhaps most extraordinary of all, She claims to have cured many cancer victims. Reporter: How many people have you managed to cure who have had cancer? Shri Mataji: Thousands… I don’t know… I should say… Reporter: Thousands? What do doctors think of what you’re saying? Shri Mataji: You see the trouble is I Myself I have done medicine and… the doctors are the Read More …

Interview Vienna (Austria)

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1982-0928 Interview Vienna Austria Interviewer: Aww that’s interesting, that’s most interesting.  I listen to All India radio quite a lot at home at short wave. [Shri Mataji laughs] wonderful. Fine, but I think we can record.  The interviewer addressing to the cameraman/Technician: You are ok? Are we running? Good. The time is ten past seven which is the evening rounds up on Blue Danube radio with Alan King My guest tonight is Shri Mataji Nirmal Devi Indian spiritual leader and teacher of Sahaja Yoga. She lives in London and she married to the Secretary General of the International Maritime Organisation of the only UN Agency based in England and she is here in Vienna for just a couple of more days.  Mataji many welcomes to Blue Danube radio, thank you for joining us here. Shri Mataji: Thank you very much. Interviewer: Now there are many types of yoga, your particular form, what is its purpose, what is particular and special about it? Shri Mataji: Sahaja- Saha means with and ja means born with you. So, it is a Yoga means the union with the Divine is born with you. This right to be united to the Divine is born with you. And is spontaneous. Means it happens through a living force of the living God. It is a living happening, the living happening of any evolutionary process. So, it is the breakthrough of the last which Yung has described as we have to be collectively conscious. So, when this thing Read More …

Radio Suisse, Romande II Lausanne (Switzerland)

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[Radio Interviewer speaking in French.] Shri Mataji: It is with every religion. [Yes], all of them. But not the believers; the people who originated the religion are the real people, but the believers diverted. [Translation and question in French] Shri Mataji: As I said, I won’t like to limit Myself as anything or describe Myself as anything. It is for you people to find out what I am. [French] Shri Mataji: Jesus Christ is a great incarnation of God’s power of love. [French] Shri Mataji: Because truth is one… [French] Shri Mataji: It’s described that the Holy Spirit has the cool breeze. [French] Shri Mataji: The experience that they talk of is from St. Paul. [French] Shri Mataji: The experience of the power of the Holy Spirit has to be a living power. [French] Shri Mataji: Now this technique is called as ‘Sahaja Yoga’. [French] [missing part] Shri Mataji: Means it is spontaneous. [French] Shri Mataji: Now, first of all let us see the collectivity of it. [French] Shri Mataji: They call Me Mother. [French] Shri Mataji: That’s what I am coming to. [French] Shri Mataji: And that possibility is given in all the religions and described in all the religions. [French] Note This seems to be not a radio interview with Shri Mataji, but a radio interview with Sahaja Yogis (in French) which has some sentences by Shri Mataji (in English). Most of the interview consists of the yogis speaking French, with only a few sentences by Shri Mataji.

Spanish Radio Interview Madrid (Spain)

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Spanish Radio Interview, 1982, June 1st Madrid [pre-interview] Shri Mataji: It’s the real baptism. It’s the real baptism. You actually feel the bones becoming soft, on your head, and the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost starts coming out of your head. It’s alright? Interviewer: Yes. We will ask you how many persons practice Sahaja Yoga? Shri Mataji: How many? In the world, lots of them. But Spain is the last place, I should say. Even we have Portugal, many people practising. In London, lots of them. America, everywhere. In India, in the villages – thousands. People practice it en-masse because you just become that, it’s becoming. Shri Mataji: We should tell them also about the fake gurus and the cure because we cure nice people who are affected by them. [interview starts at min 3:28] Interviewer: [Presents Shri Mataji in Spanish]. Good afternoon. Shri Mataji: Good afternoon. Interviewer: What is Sahaja Yoga? Shri Mataji: “Saha” means “with”, “ja” is “born with you”, it is born with you. And “yoga” means union with the Divine. And this right – to be one with the Divine, is born with you. So you have a right to be born again which is promised in the scriptures. So you have to be born again. And this system is built within you but it happens that you become that. As you have become a human being from an animal state, you become divine by this happening. A new awareness comes into you, a new Read More …

Morning Radio CJOR Interview with Rafe Mair Vancouver (Canada)

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Morning Radio CJOR Interview with Rafe Mair Presenter: Well, I have a very interesting last hour for you, and I should tell you that if you hear strange noises coming over your radio, is because I am surrounded by private television set, or television recorder, that’s recording this interview, and we have all kinds of people here that we don’t normally have. Reminds me of my first day in the year. My listeners may remember when they had all the television cameras in here; then all the lights were out. I hope that doesn’t happen today. But my, my guest now, for the next hour ? I am going to definitely invite your calls very, very soon ? is Her Holiness Mataji Nirmala Devi and She is leader of the Indian Kundalini. And I said before, religion, that is not correct. It is Yoga. And She is, as I told you in the, before of the last hour, married to a former assistant of Mahatma Gandhi and who is now a Senior United Nations Official and, of course, as I say, She is the leader of this particular Yoga. First of all, before I get in and display all of my ignorance, Mataji, may I just welcome You to Vancouver, the city where you are. I wonder if You can speak right up to the microphone because it is not very sensitive and I’m going to have to test it to get it little louder for You. OK? There we Read More …

Radio Interview Brighton (England)

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Radio Interview, Brighton (UK), 10 July 1981. Broadcaster: Now, a little while ago with John Gribbin, we were being conducted on a whistle-stop tour of the external universe, but now we hope to probe a little deeper.  A spiritual leader, who believes that every country in the world is linked to a particular part of the body, but who scorns religious gurus, who preaches that the essence of life lies within the [??SOUNDS LIKE evidual/Ovidual. Does he mean ‘individual’?] awakening yet [not sure here if the ‘comma’ comes before the “yet” or after, as meaning not clear] is extremely rich and married to a United Nations official.  Well, I dare say I am about to be told that these apparent contradictions are of my own making, but I am very pleased to welcome to the sounding studio The Mataji Nirmala Devi, together with a local practitioner of Sahaja Yoga She espouses – Ray Harris.  Now, he’s a Brighton geologist so we’ve got both sides of the spectrum and we’re very pleased to welcome you both to the studio. Now, perhaps I could start with You, Mother Mataji.  You’re an Indian, now what kind of following do You have at home? Shri Mataji: There are lots of people in the villages of India.  I work in the villages of India, not so much in the cities, and the villages are not yet touched by the superficialities and the pretensions of life so much.  People are very simple and it’s easy to Read More …

Talkback Radio 2UE Sydney (Australia)

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Radio Interview, Sydney (Australia), 31 March 1981.  Talkback program ‘The Forum’ on 2UE Radio. Hosted by Ian Parry Oakden. Interviewer: Well, hi and welcome once again to the program. And tonight, a program with a slight difference. In the past, on the forum we’ve talked in different ways about finding oneself; about knowing oneself, and we’ve asked you at times to describe yourself in various ways, which has been interesting. Tonight we look at a different aspect of that under the title of Self Realization. In the past few years in Australia we have seen a succession of people come to Australia, with various titles, who lead what is generally regarded, I suppose, as cults. There have been people who have called themselves Maharajis, or Maharaji; there have been people who’ve called themselves yogis, there are people who will come up to you in the street and hand you literature who are followers of particular, mostly Indian based religious movements. I think that in general, is the way they describe them. And just lately I seem to be receiving more and more literature about these sort of people coming to Australia to speak to their followers. We’ve seen television films of them being greeted at the airport by devoted followers. And the other day I received a news release, guess you could call it that, about someone just a little bit different, because this time it’s a woman. And that makes it interesting to start with. Let me read you Read More …

Interview with BBC Radio Broadcast London (England)

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Interview with BBC Radio Broadcast, London, 17 March 1980 Lady interviewer: Vibratory awareness. Now I need to place you in collective consciousness, the second birth. The places we call the hippy trend in the 60’s with yellow roads and the solemn gurus. After those days going strong and today a new book is published to claim yet another new dawn to call as phrases from its present out [unsure].The book is called The Advent and it deals with the vibratory awareness available through something called Sahaja Yoga. It has been in congress [unsure] and written by Gregoire de Kalbermatten of the Swiss diplomatic corp. Based in London and press-launched in India House to the Indian High Commissioner and to the founder of Sahaja Yoga, Her Holiness Mataji Nirmala Devi. And it’s very true and he set out to meet the lady who was not yet vibrating the sample [unsure]. Second interviewer: The London flat where lives Her Holiness Mataji Nirmala Devi [inaudible] has been redecorated with tapestries and traditional Indian wood carvings. I removed my shoes and have been sitting. In the living room was introduced to Shri Mataji, which means Mother. She’s a plump middle-aged woman dressed in a sari, intelligent from birth in mid-life. Here over the tea and Indian sweets, we discussed how to achieve vibratory awareness. And here comes the difficult part: in a debate lasting several hours, She parried all my objections to her thoughtless awareness and evolution releasing with simple question: how is it Read More …

BBC Interview London (England)

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BBC Interview. London, England. 17 March 1980. Interviewer: I would like to welcome everybody particularly I want to have word before we do start the afternoon interview with some of the [inaudible] and have different opinions about some of my public programs for people that I interview who have different points of view from the main stream of a Christian thinking of radio 74. there those of you have written to me and said, I do not like anything that is not oh, let’s say it loose terms born again Christianity and I don’t think Christian station or anyone the call itself Christian should have any other kind of ideas there, others of you who right into say I understand that you have to be tolerate it because you’re the only English language station and it would get pretty rough for you if you want tolerate and so therefore I accept this is some kind of a grudging conversation to keep out another point of view then I have a high value very much. I have had several business man who said me, I cannot stand religious program and I never listen to such and they turn me off completely except on the ones that you run because you never trying so many thing. You always say, listen a few point of view or had how do you like this? How does this strike you? Or would you believe this? or you just be said listen something beautiful and they Read More …

Interview feature, Evening News (THE LIFE ETERNAL, 1979 ISSUE) New Delhi (India)

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KUNDALINI YOGA INTERVIEW FEATURE WITH MATAJI NIRMALA DEVI BY VIDYUT MANEKLAL Evening News, New Delhi, Feb. 23, 1977 ‘’What is the purpose of life”, asked a press correspondent to Mataji Nirmala Devi, votary of Kundalini Yoga also known as Sahaja Yoga. “To realise the Divine and be his instrument” was the prompt reply. In the present turmoil filled world this question seemed natural. For the lives of most people are affected by dissatisfaction, frustration and bitterness leading to violent action on their part; others accept the situation and jog along with resignation, indifference marking their existence. Why was it so, we asked Mataji. “Human beings are filled with so many urges. They want love, wealth, power. Having savoured the fleeting joys springing from the physical material side of life, they get restless and bored since their existence is confined to the physical, mental and emotional planes. They seek a remedy for their boredom. They turn to ‘Gurus’ in the hope of finding some solace. If the Guru is truly enlightened, he may show them the correct path, but if it is otherwise, the individual or individuals fall a victim to the myths of the ‘Guru’ who may lead them astray, plunging them into the very depth of darkness”. Q. What is the remedy for this ? A. The remedy is within you and the Divine has provided an instrument in the form of the Kundalini, which is like a Germinating power that works out your sprouting. Sahaja Yoga means awakening Read More …