导师崇拜(节录)
英国伦敦 1979年12月2日
一个月前，我告诉罗斯顿，这个星期天，你必须安排一个崇拜，星期天是月圆的日子，他问我做什么崇拜，是做导师崇拜，摩诃拉希什米崇拜还是格涅沙崇拜，我告诉他，就称这个崇拜为导师崇拜。之后，一段长时间后，他问我—当我要去印度—为何不也做圣诞崇拜？
今天是很重要的日子，因为很久以前，当耶稣还是小孩，祂阅读经典，向大众宣布，祂是Advent(基督教的降临节〔圣诞节前的四个星期〕)—祂是降世神祇，是救赎者。他们相信救赎者会降临。今天，很久之后，在星期天，祂说，祂宣布祂是救赎者。所以今天是降临节的星期天。耶稣要活得很短很短，因此祂在很年青的时候，就要宣布祂是Advent(降世神祇)。这是很不寻常的，在此之前，没有降世神祇公开的说他们是降世神祇。当然，罗摩，祂忘记自己是降世神祇。某程度上，祂令自己忘记，令自已扮演幻象，完全变成人类—MaryadaPurushottama和克里希纳也只告诉了一个人—亚周那—也只是要开战才告诉他；亚伯拉罕从没说他是降世神祇，虽然祂是原初导师达陀陀里耶，祂却从没说祂是原初导师。这三个力量，透过纯真，来到地球，作出指引；摩西从来没说…虽然祂知道自己伟大，祂能控制大自然，但祂从没说祂是降世神祇。
在基督的年代，有人感到有需要说出来，不然人们不会明白。若那时候他们已经确认基督，就不会有任何问题。但人类仍要进一步进化。要有人超越宇宙大我的额轮来穿过那度门，基督因此降世。这是很令人惊讶，这棵生命之树，当根发芽，幼芽生长树枝，树枝生长树叶，同一棵树，花朵在开放，知道根的人不想知道幼芽，知道幼芽的人不想确认花朵，这是典型人类的本性。
我从不谈我自己，因为我感到人类已经到达自我的另一个面向，甚至比基督的时代更差。你可能把责任推在任何事物上，你可以说是工业革命，因为你离开大自然，不管你怎样说，人类已经失去与实相任何的联系，他们认同于虚假。他们不可能接受这种了不起的实相，因此，我从未说过我自己一句—当然，直至有些圣人说有关我的事情，有些被鬼附的人也提及我。而人们开始奇怪，唤醒灵量这样困难的事情，怎么在玛塔吉出现后，就能以这样快速来提升。
印度有一所庙宇，没有人知道它的存在，他们发现当船到达某一个特定的位置，就会被拉扯向海岸，很难把船拉回大海，他们要用双倍的力气才能对抗这个引力，他们不知道，有某些东西在运作，他们以为有些地方出错，以海的深度…但，很多船都很难避过这个引力，他们想找出原因，不管这些船发生了什么。为何船只会忽然被吸引向海岸，他们想找出原因。当他们走进森林里，发现这所大庙宇，在庙宇上面，发现了一大堆巨大的磁石。
所以透过理性的解释，人们知道重点，玛塔吉必定是有些不寻常，经典上没有写下什么关于这样的降世神祇会降临地球—祂只要看一眼，或即使想一想，就能提升灵量。很多圣人远离疯狂的群众，跑到森林里，坐在喜玛拉亚山上，他们全都知道。因为他们的知觉，已经到达某一层次，能让他们明白。他们比你们更能明白，因为你们仍是孩子，刚出生，他们却已是成人。
今天这个日子，我要宣布是我要拯救人类，我是太初之母，是所有母亲的母亲，是太初的母亲，是力量，是神的欲望，祂降生在这个地球，向地球，向这个创造，向人类赋予它的意义，我肯定透过我的爱、耐性和力量，会达成实现它。我一次又一次降世，但现在我以我完全的形相，完全的力量，降临地球上，不谨为了救赎人类，亦不谨为了解放人类，而是要赐予他们…，他们的父亲想赐予他们上天的国度、喜乐、极乐。
到目前为止，这些说话只说给霎哈嘉瑜伽士听。今天是导师崇拜日，不是我的崇拜，而是你作为导师的崇拜。我因你作为导师而把油涂在你的头上。今天我会告诉你，我已经赐予你什么，你内在已经有什么伟大的力量。
你们之中，有些人仍未…仍未确认我。我的宣布将会在他们内在成就事情—确认。没有确认，你看不到整出戏剧，没有这出戏剧，你不会有信心，没有信心，你不能成为导师，不能成为导师，你不能帮助人，不能帮助人，你不会快乐。因此，要拆散这一串链子是很容易的，你是要建立这一串链子，这是你要做的事情，你要一个接一个的建立这串链子。这是你们都想做的，因此，要有信心，要喜乐，要快乐，我会用我所有的力量来保护你，我的爱会滋润你，我的本质会令你充满和平和喜乐。
愿神祝福你们！
the following was transcribed from an Mp3 recording of a tape in India]
Now I would like to give the books first of all. And then I’ll… about what you have got already within you. All weeping and crying should be over now. You have to wipe out the tears of others. Get out of your small shells and little problems, here and there.
First book, Kuli, can you give Me.
[inaudible words]
Where is the pen?
Yogi: …want a pen Mother?
Shri Mataji: I would like to write in Devalipi, because it’s a mantra, isn’t it? It has to be written in Devalipi your names, would be better than in English, though utility-wise English would be better, but from, from Sahaj Yoga point of view, I think, if I write in Devalipi it would be better and you will know it is your name.
So the first book. “Advent!” – by which we declare, the advent of your Mother, your own, very own Mother. Today, I would like to give to Gregoire, who has really worked very hard to write this book, and, I have tortured his life… and also Gavin, Jane, who have helped him such a lot, and Maureen who has helped him to type and read My funny handwriting which had mutilated all previous writings of Gregoire [Mother chuckles]. We have had a very nice time together, and now the book is ready. We should also be very thankful to Indian Sahaja Yogis, for giving all their assistance, to Gregoire, for the publication of this book. They have given the money and all the assistance. There are so many people who are to be thanked, but actually this is your own book. And the most important person whom you should thank is [unclear: WULEE?], or, Tony as you call him, because, he has taken the photograph, which turned out to be the best among all. He’s not a photographer, by chance he had taken a photograph, it’s such a sahaja photograph. And everybody said that this photograph should be… there. And everybody, not feeling jealous of anyone, have very sensibly behaved that the book should come out; and the involvement that everyone had; and they all helped…
Even the coming of book was so sahaja, that, first it would not come. It has come at a time when we needed it the most: it should not have come earlier, because we wanted advent date for this book. And, the coming of it was that, the ship people told Me that the books have arrived… and you have to collect the books, and we have to take all… customs clearance and all that. But then they told Me that surprisingly, the customs people did not ask anything; they did not even open the boxes; they didn’t want to know anything what was inside. They were all quite surprised. Normally, even if you say books they open it and see for themselves whether there are books or not, maybe something else coming in. And there was a niece of mine, who was there, who telephoned to us – that also spontaneously – and I told her such books are lying with such people, and just they arrived – it was that simple. And they t…
[Mp3 no.1 sound cuts off]
[Mp3 no.2:]
Should I write it here, or here Gregoire?. Here would…
This is the cover, I would like – just show them – to give to Gregoire, just show round, with the peacocks. Peacock is the… is the vahana of Saraswati.
Actually it is kept the other way round, you see?
Sahaja Yogi[softly]: I think…
Shri Mataji: Beg pardon, what is it?
Sahaja Yogi: [CHRIS?] was trying to explain what Shri Kartikeya was like.
Other Sahaja Yogi: He was just like Gregoire. [laughter].
Shri Mataji: Actually books are always done this way, you know? You can do it on the ground would be better. This way, and then is covered like that, you see? It’s always books are done.
Sahaja Yogi: Mother this way?
Shri Mataji: It’s on this way it comes up. See? So, they are kept. Hm, I think then they go round. Ya and, this is brought in… that side.. this way, and the pin must be put here or some sort of a thing. Actually they have a ribbon with it, attached, when they tie it up the book like that. This is called as grantha, you see, the one which is tied, grantha.All these books must be kept, tied in a proper cloth, in this way. And before opening the book you must wash your hands – properly. It should not be kept in every place you feel like: must be kept in proper places. And the due protocol of the book must be kept. It is very important.Which are the names? Which are the people?
Rustom: Gavin, your copy.
Shri Mataji: What is it?
Sahaja Yogi: We had to copy the […indistinct]
Shri Mataji: Alright. So to Jane, to… second to Rustom…
Rustom [interupting]: …Walter
Shri Mataji: Ah? [pause] This is the Guru Puja, I’m doing. [pause] Jane? There you go. Now I’m doing your one.
I’ll use it.
All of you must have your individual copies. That is very important. And as everybody has different vibrations, it must be treated with the same understanding that, you all should have your individual thing with you.
[Mother writes the names of all the Yogis in Devnagari in their copies of the books]
Let Me just finish the work, alright?
So now… Tony? What should I write? Tony or Kuli?
Tony: Tony
Shri Mataji: What’s your real name?
Tony: Antonacis
Shri Mataji: Anthony. Anthony. Anth…?
Tony: Antonacis
Shri Mataji: Anta….
Tony: An-to-na-cis
Shri Mataji: Antonacis. -nakir, “r” is there? Nakir?
Tony: Ess. Nakis
Shri Mataji: N-a-k-i-s. Antonakis
Sahaja Yogini: that means live [LAND UPON?…unclear]
Shri Mataji: Yes I knew you had another… An…to…naa…kis, nakis.
Tony: Anto…
Shri Mataji: Antonakis
Tony: Yes Mam
Rustom: N, A, I…
Shri Mataji: N, A, I, Naikis
Tony: No. An-to-na-kis
Maria: N, A, K, I, S.
Shri Mataji: Oh. Antonakis
Sahaja Yogi: Antonakis
Sahaja Yogi: So at last we got the truth here. [laughter]
Shri Mataji: Keece or Kiss
Tony: Kis
Shri Mataji: tokis. [long pause] Now, you must know the meanings of this:
“To My beloved son Antonakis
With love
My blessings
Ma Nirmala
Now, who else? Tell Me the names now.
Sahaja Yogi: Barbara.
Shri Mataji: and Mark [long pause] May God bless you. Now. Maria. That’s your real name, Maria? Full name?
Maria: And the only one.
Shri Mataji: Only Maria. [pause] Go sit down. May God bless you.
Sahaja Yogi: David Spiro
Shri Mataji: David Spiro. [pause] [Mother asks in Hindi about the Surname being “Spiral?”]
Rustom: Spi-ro
Shri Mataji [while writing]: Spi-ro. Spiro. [pause] May God bless you
Rustom: Malcolm Mother. Malcolm.
Shri Mataji: Malcolm. Ma-la-kom
Rustom: Mal-kom
Shri Mataji: Malkom. [pause]
Rustom: Patricia
Shri Mataji: May God bless you. Patreeshia, Patricia
Rustom: Patricia
Shri Mataji: Patrisia
Rustom: Pa’tricia
Shri Mataji: ta?
Rustom: Ta
Shri Mataji: Patrisia, Patrisia.
Sahaja Yogini[softly]: C, I, A.
Shri Mataji: But it is TRa [rolled “R”] or Tra [soft “r”]
Rustom: Its TRa
Shri Mataji: Tee – Are – but you see in Hindi we have two.
Rustom: Tra
Shri Mataji: PatRi, PatRisia, is correct? Patrici… Patricia, Patricia. [long pause] May God bless you.
Rustom: Hester.
Shri Mataji: Hm? Hester. It is… Hé-sta?
Rustom: Hester.
Sahaja Yogi: Hesta
Shri Mataji: Hestaa
Sahaja Yogi: Hesta. With an “a” no “r”.
Shri Mataji: Hesta
Yogi: H, E S, T A.
Shri Mataji: Tee. Ha?
Yogi: A
Shri Mataji: “T” Hesta,
Yogi: Hesta.
Rustom: Short “A.”
Shri Mataji: Hesta. [pause]. Hesta, May God bless you.
May God bless you. Now.
Sahaja Yogi: Harry.
Shri Mataji: hm?
Sahaja Yogi: Harry.
Rustom: Hare, is your name, ha?
Shri Mataji: Hari
Rustom: Hare
Yogi: Hari?
Hari: Hari Jairam
Shri Mataji: Hari Jairam [long pause] May God bless you.
Rustom: You, Peter.
Shri Mataji: P, E, T, E, R. [Hindi regarding pronunciation of Peter’s name] [pause]
May God bless you.
Rustom: Felicity.
Shri Mataji: Felicity.
Rustom: [Hindi] Usko apta hai Ma.
Shri Mataji: May God bless you.
Rustom: Philip… Philip
Philip: Spelt with one ell.
Shri Mataji: You have…?
Philip: Spelt with one ell.
Shri Mataji: What’s he say?
Rustom: [Hindi: about the spelling]
Shri Mataji: Philip.
Rustom: Philip.
Philip: P, H, I, L, I, P.
Shri Mataji: Philip. [pause] You can put some Music.
Rustom: Oh. Malcolm? Music.
Shri Mataji: May God bless you. Hm?
Rustom: Allan.
Shri Mataji: Allan.
Sahaja Yogis [recite mantras]: Mahasaraswati, Mahakali, Trigunatmika, Adi Kundalini Sakshat, Shri Adishakti Sakshat, Shri Bhagawati Sakshat, Shri Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi Namoh Namah.
Rustom: Om twam sakshat shri Ganeshaya Namaha
…Keshavaya…
…Matavaya…
…Govindaya…
…Vaishnave…
…Madhuswadhanaya…
…Trivikramaya…
…Wavanaya…
…Shridharaya…
…Rishikeshaya…
…Padmanabhaya…
…Damodharaya…
…Sankarshanaya…
…Vasudevaya…
…Pradyomnaya…
…Anirudhaya…
…Purushottamaya…
…Adokshajaya…
…Narasimhaya…
…Achyutaya…
…Janardanaya…
…Upendraya…
…Haraye…
…Krishnaya…
…Virataya…
Sakshat, Shri Adishakti Sakshat, Shri Bhagawati Sakshat, Shri Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi Namoh Namah
I’ll say the names of all the deities of the Kundalini.
Shri Mataji: Now you pay attention to those deities within your Kundalini. You can sit down. And just pay attention: you know where are the… which are the deities on what chakras are.
Rustom: Om twam sakshat shri Ganeshaya Namaha
…Nirmalgauri kundalini mataya…
…Saraswatibrahmadevaya…
…Hasratali Fatima mataya…
…Adigurudattatreyaya…
…Abraham…
…Moses…
…Zaratustraya…
…Mohammed Sahibaya…
…Confuciusaya…
…Laotzeaya…
…Sainathaya…
…Raja Janakaya…
…GuruNanakaya…
…Socrates…
…Avidut Adiraataya…
…Lakshmi Narayana…
…Gruhalakshmishaktimataya…
…Durga-jagadamba-mataya…
…Shiva-parvatimataya…
…Karuna rasa sagaraya…
…Daya sagaraya…
…Kshama shrayini…
…Atman paramatman…
…Kshetragnya…
…Sitarama maryada purushottamaya…
…Vishnugranthi vibhedini shakti mataya…
…Radha Krishna purnavataraya…
…Yeshoda Rukmini vithalaya…
…Vishnumaya…
…Lalita chakra swaminishakti…
…Shri chakra swaminishakti…
…Virataya viratanganaya…
…Hamsa chakra swaminishakti…
…Pranavaya…
…Omkaaraya…
…Kartikeyaya…
…Mahaganeshaya…
…Mahaviraya…
…Gautambuddhaya…
…Swaprakashaya mary and jesus…
…Mahakali Shakti bhairavaya…
…Mahashankaraya…
…Mahasaraswati Shakti hanumantaya…
…Mahabrahmadevaya…
…Mahalakshmi Shakti mahavishnuve…
…Ekadashaya Shakti rudraya…
…Rudra granthi vibhedini Shakti mataya…
…Sahasrara swamini moksha [pra]dayini nishkalankaya mahamaya Mataji Shri Nirmala devi…
…Ardabindu Shakti mataya…
…Bindu Shakti mataya…
…Valaya Shakti mataya…
…Sadashiva adishakti mataya…
…Parambrahman…
Sakshat, Shri Adishakti Sakshat, Shri Bhagawati Sakshat, Shri Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi Namoh Namah
Shri Mataji: You did not say Vishnu mantra.
Rustom: I said [unclear]
Shri Mataji: You said Mahavishnu….it’s alright. When you say Vishnu Shesha also you can say where the Nabhi is then say Vishnu Lakshmi and Surya Chandra. See they are also chakras, Surya Chandra. So the Ida Pingala Nadi Shakti you can also say, so that [unclear] …it now…[unclear].
Rustom: Om twam sakshat Shri Lakshmi Narayana Sheshaya Namaha
…Surya Chakra Swamini Shakti…
…Chandra Chakra Swamini Shakti…
Shri Mataji: See? How it’s… [unclear] You see? You can say Chandra Mandal Madhyastha. Surya Mandal Madyastha. Means this superego and supraego.
Rustom: In the… they say Bhanu Mandal Madhyastha
Shri Mataji: hm. Bhanu Mandal…
Rustom: OK. Om twameva sakshat Shri Chandra Mandala Madhyasthaya Namaha
Om twam sakshat shri bhanu Mandala Madyasthaya namaha
Shri Mataji: [Hindi about Ida and Pingala] Ida and Pingala bolo.
Rustom: Om twameva sakshat Shri Ida Nadi Swamini Shakti Namaha
Om twam sakshat Shri Pingala Nadi swamini Shakti Namaha
Shri Mataji: Sushumna Nadi.
Rustom: Om twam sakshat shri Sushumna Nadi Swamini Shakti Namaha.
Shri Mataji: That’s better. [inaudible] Much better now?
Rustom: There’s also Sarva Ida Granthi Vibhedini Shakti.
Shri Mataji: Oh. Ida Granthi Vibhedini is good.
Rustom: Om twameva sakshat shri Sarva Ida Granthi Vibhedini Shakti Mataya Namaha
Shri Mataji: hm.
Rustom: Om twam sakshat shri Sarva Pingala Nadi Granthi Vibhedini Shakti Namaha.
Shri Mataji: hm.
Rustom: Om twam sakshat shri Sarva Sahasrara [sic] Granthi Vibhedini Shakti Namaha
Shri Mataji: Sushumna Nadi
Rustom: Om twameva sakshat shri Sarva Sushumna Granthi Vibhedini Shakti Namaha.
Om Shri Mahaganapataye Namaha, Shri Saraswati Mataya…
锡吕.玛塔吉︰在做任何崇拜前，要做格涅沙崇拜，因为最先的是神圣…是纯真。因此，在做任何敬拜前，我们先要建立我们内在的神圣…或内在的纯真。你要敬拜你内在的纯真，因此，一切都要放下…放下外在的一切。
Rustom: Om Shri Mahaganapataye Namaha
Shri Saraswati Mataya Namaha
Shri gurubhyo namaha
Vedpurushaya Namaha
Aishtadevataya Namaha
Kuladevata bhyo namaha
[someone coughs]…eksthaanadevata bhyo namaha
Shachipuram dharabhyam namaha
Kalka parashurame Bhyo namaha
Matru pritru byam namaha
Adityadi nava graha devta bhyo namaha
Sarve bhyo deve bhyo namaha
Sarve bhyo brahmane bhyo namaha
Etat karan pradam devata bhyo namaha
Avi ghanam astu…
Shri Mataji: You’re not registering. Can you make it loud speaker? …the loudspeaker. You see because you can’t make…[unclear] You see?
Rustom: [Hindi] I’ll put it in here. It’s ok I’ll put it in my lap.
Shri Ma Bhagavato, Mahapurushasya, Vishnu Agnya Parvartam Mansya Adi Brahmano Dvitiya Parabe Vishnu Pade, Shri Shwetvarakalpe Vayvaswat Manvantare Englandeshe, Europekhande, Londonnagare, Thamesnadiye, Uttaratire Kaliyuge Kalipratamcharine, Ash…
Shri Mataji: Listen to it carefully, now…
Rustom: Ashtavinsha…
Shri Mataji:…See now see now what is it. It is localizing the point, you see? Now, now say again. Carefully.
Rustom: Kalki Avatare, shalivahan shake. vaganvartamane, anand twam sarvantsare…
Shri Mataji: Savatsare
Rustom: Sarvantsare. Hema rutu… Don’t know what Mase, Mataji, can’t find that.
Shri Mataji: Mase is… [Marathi question: Kun sa Mase wa?]
[yogi answers in Marathi]
Shri Mataji: [Marathi: BHAIDRABAD?]
Rustom: Bhadramase
Marathi Yogi: [MAAG, MAAG..unclear].
Shri Mataji: Hm? Maag.
Rustom: Maag, Maagmase, shuklpaash…
Shri Mataji: Pakshe
Rustom: Pakshe. [Hindi meaning “Mother, what is the “Tita”: KYA TITA MATAJI? KYA TITU? ]
Shri Mataji: Ti tau ayes purnima.[Hindi meaning “the tita is Full Moon.]
Rustom: [Hindi: meaning good/ok:] Acha. [Sanskrit:] Purnima titau… Madhu yavasare, Aadidya divas dhanuvaasare, nakshatre, vishnu yoge, vishnu…
Shri Mataji: Kshatra, nakshatre ye to du.
Rustom: Ah, pit dhanu bha
Shri Mataji: Dhanu.
Rustom: Dhanu, ah, dhanu, dhadu… ah
Shri Mataji: This is Sagittarius.
Rustom: Sagittarius.
Shri Mataji: See, we are putting the whole thing, where are we having the puja, you see? so you have to find the location and complete that in London, where the River Thames flows, and in the south…
Rustom: In the north.
Shri Mataji: Or, in the north of London, and then at this time. And… what is the era, and what is the month; what is the year; and what is the constellation, is Sagittarius. and what is the titi is the… today is the full moon day… Like that, you see the complete location is being said.
Rustom: Acha
Shri Mataji: This is to, inform the Gods.
Rustom: Vishnu yoge, vishnu karane, London-ashramastite, vertamam chandrastite, Shri Surya Stite, Devgura shesha, shivgrahe shivyatav ata rashishtaan-stite, shiv-satsu-evam guna visheshan na visheshtayam shubha punya titaau.
Now we say… make a vow, so you have to repeat this after Me.
Shri Mataji: Yes, you all have to repeat.
Rustom: [after each name the Yogis repeat:] Mama… aatmana… sarvadharmaash… shastrakla… falapratyartang… aasmakang… sarveshang… sahajyogi-kutambanam… kshem… starya… vijaya… abhaya… ayu… arogya… aishwarya… abhivrudyatam… dwipada… chaturpad… sahitanang… … shantyartang… punyatang… pustyatang… tushtyatyang… samastha… mangalavapyade… samasta… abyudayartang… paramchaitanyang… prapyatang… samasta-sakal-sahajyoginam… baadas-shantyatang… eshtakamsam… siddhyatang… kalpuktafalang… aavapyatang… yatashaktya… yata-gyanang… yata-militog-chadravay… dhyaanavahang… madi-shokoktchar… pujam… karishye…
[MP3 no.2 ends]
What have you got and what are your powers?
[Puja seems to be underway. Shri Mataji is talking with the yogis.]
If you say the mantra “You are the Mahat Ahankara.” Mahat means the primordial, the big and Ahankara is the Ego. It goes out. Just say that.
Sahaja Yogis: Om twameva sakshat, Shri Mahat Ahamkara Sakshat, Shri Adi Shakti Sakshat, Shri Bagavati Sakshat, Shri Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi Namoh Namaha.
Shri Mataji: Receding back, hm?…Just settle down. Hm! Now receding, that’s much better.
Sahaja Yogi: Where’s the Bowl the metal thing which was sent to be cleaned.
Shri Mataji: Better? Still. Quite a lot.
我们在谈基督，祂安顿在这里，控制我们的自我，消解我们的自我，谈谈祂，基督徒若认为自己是基督徒，就要完全没有自我。我是说跟随基督的人要没有自我。实际上，霎哈嘉瑜伽士才是真正的犹太人，真正的基督徒，真正的印度教徒，真正的穆斯林，真正的锡克教徒，因为他们并不狂热。
Rustom: Nabhi’s releasing.
Shri Mataji: Yes they are
[Rustom discusses in Hindi with Shri Mataji about doing a Mahalakshmi Puja]
Rustom: Gregoire do you want to do the Mahalakshmi Puja? Gregoire and Jane, Gavin, Tony.
Shri Mataji: [… GO DO IT?] all of them.
Sahaja Yogi: It’s [DEBRA?]
Shri Mataji: Lets see
Sahaja Yogi: Maureen?
Rustom: All the people who did the book Mother, I thought I would get to do the Puja
Shri Mataji: No-no-no…[noise on microphone]… as it is you have got the book as well as the Puja. Those who have got the book should not [two words unclear] who haven’t got it should.
Rustom: Not got it, but those who did the book Mother.
Shri Mataji: Oh did the book is a good idea. That’s a better idea. Alright…. I mean: I thought those who got the book. Those who did the book must, who else is there?
Various yogis: Maureen, Gregoire, Tony
Rustom: [Those are the people who did the book?] Who did the photograph?
Shri Mataji: Come along Tony, come along come
Sahaja Yogi: Ok Gregoire can you come along. [microphone moved]
Rustom: Om, Shri Maha…
Shri Mataji: What about your brother, Matt? [name not clear] He did the drawing.
Various yogis: Yes I thought of him Mother. Is he here? Patt?
[Rustom reads shlokas while Shri Mataji explains how to decorate kumkum on Her feet]
Shri Mataji: Put a line here. Put a line. Then, beyond the line you paint the whole thing. Now. Get two more unmarried. Hesta where are you? Yes come along. Now you boys are to go away. Let them come. Then you see the married will have to come – five of them – for My sari. Alright? Come along.
[Rustom continues.]
Shri Mataji: You draw a line, first of all. Here. Now you draw a line and you don’t go beyond that line. No no not. But with one finger,one finger. Now you can use another finger.
[Shloka comes to an end followed by 5 min of quiet while Mother’s feet are decorated]
Shri Mataji: Yes. It’s alright. Doesn’t have to look… Because we are going to put something now. Give one to them. …two sides it has got… That is mangalsutra. [necklace symbolic of a married lady] somebody, some married lady has to do that
Rustom: Jane
Shri Mataji: Jane.
You can open it. [referring to toe-ring]
Rustom: Margy you can open it, its just pressed apart. Pat. Ask Pat for the Garland.
Shri Mataji: You should, pull it down further with that finger. [3 words inaudible] This should be in front. You should see the thing coming… you see the ruby should come on this finger, it’s a double-sided one. That’s correct. Now this one, little down, press it a little.
Rustom: [unclear]
Shri Mataji: Call somebody who’s married. Sahndya, you can come along. Married women.
[Marathi words]
Sahaja Yogi: [inaudible]…hands…?
Shri Mataji: Hands? Married women will do My hands.
[Marathi]
Ya. Come along, come here.
[Marathi]
Like that.
[Marathi/Hindi]
Rustom: Towel. Pass me the towel. [Hindi]
Shri Mataji: [Marathi] You know how to do Swastik? [Marathi, directions for decoration of Hands] You see beyond this line, you have to put it on. With the right hand, with the right hand. All through. [Marathi] You draw the line like this Maria. Correct, now, you complete, you see, on the sides also. No-no: sides of the fingers.
Rustom: You see the whole finger must be red. So that no white can show up.
Shri Mataji: White, the white side of the finger. Backside. Frontside. Hm! See, how it’s improving, see? [Marathi] Good. Thank you. Like this [3 unclear words]. Is alright. Now. [Marathi]
Peggy? You come here. One more married lady is wanted. Peggy has to be there. Peggy come here. Six and seven? Yes come along. Pam is married too. How many here? You can put two and let Me also have two. Mary? Come along. Come, come, come. You have to put them together otherwise they’ll break there.
Sahaja Yogini: Put three?
Shri Mataji: Yes, in My hands.
Rustom: Just put one on each.
Shri Mataji: Press My hand. Good. Now, you sit down here. Yes. Put [unclear] red on My feet. Right? Come along, put some red one My feet. Right hand. With all your fingers, all your fingers, come now. Good. Rub it here. Now on… [unclear]… Better now? Both the hands.
Sahaja Yogini: Both the hands?
Shri Mataji: Yes. Good. May God Bless You. Is good. Come along. Both the hands. [unclear, sounds like YOU TWINKLE?] your fingers. Now. Half the [unclear]. [DO?] you make the line again. You see you are [CROSSING?] make the line. That’s it. Stick to the line. Alright. It’s good now. Now do this one, also. Take out, alright.
Feeling better now? Leave it here. Now, let’s see. Little hot. Hm?
Keep the line Hm? Alright. It’s better now! Hard, rub it hard, very hard. Rub it very hard with your hands like that.
How are you now. Alright. Keep the line now. This line must be re-[FORMED or DRAWN]. Alright, now, this one.
… Now everybody could not come, doesn’t matter, for everyone they are doing it. You must think it’s a symbolic thing, alright? So you do not differentiate. See if I touch something by My finger, I don’t say I touch it by finger, I say I touch it. Understand that? That’s how it is. ‘Cause everybody cannot do it: you need too much time. Now. Done. [HINDI WORDS] The girls who are left will just come along. All the girls first of all.
Rustom: Kumkum acha hoon [is the kumkum alright?]
Shri Mataji: [Hindi words] All the girls who are left, Felicity and others also. Anna come along. Come along Anna, you come along. All those who didn’t may go. Yes now, let them come along now. Those who have been here, come along all of you. Let them give one by one?
Rustom: Kumkum? Kumkum isn’t there. I’ll…
Shri Mataji: Take this, in your hand, alright? Now. You’ll give Me, out of…
Rustom etc: [Hindi]
Shri Mataji: For the lower portion…No, no, kumkum itself
Rustom: Where’s kajal. But kumkum we have Mataji.
Shri Mataji: Where it is?
Sahaja Yogi & yogini: There, somewhere there.
Shri Mataji: All here. [NAY?] there must be the lower portion of this also, that has got kumkum.
[soft talking. Shri Mataji directs the decorations of Kumkum & Kajal. Someone takes some Photos. Turmeric/Haldi is requested. ]
Shri Mataji: Put on the right hand only on the right hand…
…You have again gone to the previous condition. Get over it. It’s nothing serious. Is very simple. Now. Alright?…
[Marathi]
Let him go and get the books now. How many more?
Rustom: We shall need at least another thirty.
Sahaja Yogi: At least…
Shri Mataji: Bring the box, I think.
Sahaja Yogi: Eleven books here
Shri Mataji: If you take Marcus, take… bring the book….[UNCLEAR] he will take them back. Marcus, if you go with him you can bring it, but bring it fast, you see?
Marcus: Thank you, Mother.
[Marathi]
[END OF TAPE 1 SIDE A]
[TAPE 1 SIDE 2]
[Yogis sing Aarati Nirmala Mata, Saba Ko Dua, Maha Mantras (spoken), Lords Prayer, Allah Hu Akbar (x16)]
[microphone is moved]
…[OKIST AND?] everybody had such terrible colds, that I also got a little bit of it. So, that’s one thing, and, if you want I can write it down for you and you can copy it. So “how to cure colds and prevent colds [NEXT TIME or THAT’S…unclear]
Rustom: We can tape it Mataji.
Shri Mataji: I would say better to take [THEM AND BE COMFORTABLE?], alright?
So the thing that I want you really to know is what you have got and what are your powers, that is much more important. Now (has he come back, Peter? Not yet. [Hindi question to Rustom][noise on mike]…talk about it? Should I tell you? Now, Alright?
Sahaja Yogi: [unclear] [THE BEST KIND OF TECHNOLOGY?]
Shri Mataji: You can tape this. Sit-down sit-down sit-down sit-down sit-down. Ha. Mm.
前几天我告诉你shambhavopaya和nishaktopaya，这是两种方法…。第
一种方法是透过它你洁净人—很少数人—你不停洁净很少数人，他们的注意力因此得到完全的洁净，他们的五大元素也得到洁净…灵量因此升起，人们得到自觉，这种方法称为Shambhavopaya，透过这种方法，完全洁净你的品格。另一种方法是Shaktopaya，不管你是什么状态，有
个力量(Shakti)提升你的灵量，接着你只要好好洁净就行。在霎哈嘉瑜伽，我们是采用第二种方法，因为没时间采用Shambhavopaya，不可能用这种方法。
以Shaktopaya而言，人们通常…我们用的方法是Shaktipath，就是引发他们的力量，即Shakti(力量)，把力量投向另一个人身上，就像反映；或就如我们所说︰「光投射在我们身上。」因此，他们让他们的力量，或他们灵量的力量投向其他灵量的力量，然后渐渐把它升起。为了提升灵量，人类却用很费劲的方法。他们先挑选你︰你的灵量有什么问题？他们会仔细检查你的背景身世，看看你有怎样的父母，检查这检查那，你有什么梦想，他们把你彻查分析，还会找出你会染上那种疾病。例如，任何有眼疾的人，或鼻子出毛病，或喉咙出毛病，或胃病和其他疾病，他们都会避免挑选这些人。你可以想象，有多少人能符合这种类别；他们也会找出你过那种生活，有那类父母。大多数是很年青的人才找导师，要求这种Shaakta—Nishaktipath。
现在，因为我，它变得很简单，你也知道Shaktipath，你现在用的方法是Shaktipath，意思是把光投射向别人，Shakti是力量，path是投射出来。因此你的力量现在能投向任何人的灵量，令它升起。这曾经是非常，非常困难才能做到。他们说只有Veetaraga的人，即已经克服所有raaga的人—raaga是执着依恋—他克服所有执着依恋，没有执着，生命中毫无执着，那么他就能提升灵量。首先要有Deeksha，即主动权，你们已经有了。那天你来找我时，你已经取得Deeksha。你不知道…它是怎样发生，很多事情发生在你身上，你并未意识到很多事情已经发生在你们身上。就Deeksha而言，你要明白，人已经担起很重的担子，我是说你要好好照顾你的导师，你要拿点水果或类似的物品给他，人们也给他金钱这种荒谬的东西，都不要紧，但是要给一些Dakshina，因为，看，导师要受到Chelas照顾。
不管如何，导师完全不会依恋你的财富，依恋任何你给予他的物品，照顾导师是Shishyas(门徒)的责任，因此要给一点点钱给导师。当然，他们现在滥用这些礼仪，因为导师也要有地方居住，要有居住的地方或一些物品，所以要给他一点钱，这些钱称为Dakshina。整件事情现在被错误的理解，到达荒谬的程度，人们因为这种礼仪而成立了企业。导师要到达能提升灵量的层次，这类导师是Veetaraga，即他没有任何俗世的依恋执着，絶对不执着依恋，他的注意力已经很洁净，完全没有贪婪，不受任何诱惑，只剩下寛恕。这类人被视为Veetaraga。当他提升灵量，灵量只会接受这种极之罕有的人的命令才会升起。
首先，你已经取得作为导师的Deeksha，不用任何介绍，你已经取得Deeksha，也取得MahaDeeksha。首先是Deeksha，那么什么是MahaDeeksha？其二的MahaDeeksha是你被赐予一句口诀—只给你一个名号，不然，通常—这句口诀也被拿出来，因为，那个导师，若他知道…我是说这些导师连你什么轮穴有阻塞也不知道，试想像！他们通常为你占星。「你这个时刻来找我吧。」例如︰「今天你来找我，你是什么星座？你必定是有这样的忧虑？你是出生在什么Nakshatra(星座)？你父母是什么名字？」这是很大的科学。他们通常A…B…C…D…开始数算，就像这样，到达某一点，就找到一些字，什么是第二个字，第三个字，像这样，接着他们占卜，这是大的Shastra。占卜后就能找出你那个轮穴有阻塞，接着他们会给你一个名号，「好吧，例如给你罗摩这个名号。」你不停的念诵「罗摩、罗摩。」直至你治好右心轮。这可能要花上两年，三年，或许要花上两世人，也或许一百世人，你不停念诵同一句口诀︰「罗摩、罗摩、罗摩。」依据你的星座来为你占卜，你的家庭，房子，你的一切，直至到达你的轮穴有阻塞的某一点。例如你有四个轮穴有阻塞…因为，你要明白，不管他的星座预示你有什么麻烦，是吗？或你会有什么麻烦—首先是肉身方面，他们透过你的Kundalee，即你的星座，知道你有什么麻烦。例如你的胃出毛病，他们会四处寻找，找一句医治胃的口诀，因为他们不能直接的查明—像科学家，科学家是怎样查明事物。就如你看医生︰他会把你的眼睛拿出来，好好清洗，再放回去，然后说︰你的双眼妥当；接着他把你的牙齿拿出来，做一套假牙，把假牙塞进你的口腔说︰你的牙齿妥当；他把你的耳朵拿出来，加一些人造的东西，说它妥当；把你的心拿出来检查，把另一颗心放进去，就像这样。他们就是这样做，因为他们在黑暗中分类。你们知道轮穴的知识，却不知道什么是轮穴的阻塞，所以你能想象，你已经取得这样的Maha-Maha-Mahadiksha。你首先取得Deeksha︰那天你的灵量升起就是Deeksha，接着你得到自觉。毫无疑问他们不能一口气的说，只能悬挂在空中，每时每刻，倒挂在空中—就像晚上的蝙蝠，你明白吗？接着他们会咨询…其他事情…例如，他们会看你有那类朋友，那类人会吸引你，你有怎样的品性，从而作出论断。或许会给你另一句口诀，因为这些口诀，你长时间与他们一起坐着，每时每刻都念诵这些口诀，因此没有留意你其他的需要，而这是…当这些口诀发挥了效用，他们通常会这样说︰「好吧，口诀现在对你是siddha。」意思是现在你可以运用这句口诀在别人身上，即你只能念诵罗摩的口诀，试想像！
现在，你得到什么？你已经得到自觉—对吧。自觉的意思是你取得念诵那句口诀适合那个轮穴的完整知识，你可以创造自己的口诀，你也有能力知道那个轮穴需要帮助，亦取得提升别人的灵量的力量；若灵量跌下来，你已经取得把灵量安放在顶轮和净洁自己和别人的轮穴的力量；你已经取得力量，透过做班丹来稳固轮穴，保护自己免受负面力量的侵袭，你已经取得力量引导你的注意力到任何地方，从而知道谁人需要你的帮助；你已经取得力量去感觉集体出什么问题。就像，伦敦出什么问题？把你的双手张开，伦敦出什么问题？像这样，法兰？不要向着我，这是危险的。
Rustom: Left Heart very strong.
Shri Mataji: Left heart.
Sahaja Yogini: Right Heart.
Rustom: And Right Heart.
Shri Mataji: And Right Heart, that way, everything, but minimum left heart.
Sahaja Yogi: And Right Swadishthan.
Shri Mataji: Right Swadishthan.
右腹轮，你已经取得解读的语言，你已经取得…当你说︰「左心轮」，这样说，你并没有伤害任何人。伦敦人左心轮有阻塞，什么意思？意思是你违反神，对灵不感兴趣，物质主义，自我中心，你不关心你的灵，想伤害你的灵，你是酒鬼，你用酒精来摧毁自己，这些话你全都不用说，只要说︰「你的左心轮有阻塞。」就可以了，你甚至不用说你要原谅什么，只要把手这样放，在左心轮请求所有伦敦人的寛恕，他们会得到寛恕—他们却越喝越多酒，有很差的心脏。
因此，你已经取得这些力量，要提升灵量，消除灵量的障碍。若有人的额轮有阻塞，导师不会洁净他的额轮，因为他害怕自己的额轮也会受感染，所以他首先念诵口诀，成为Siddha，Siddha是被证明的人—有效的。你每一句口诀都很有效用—你念诵神祇的名号，你的口诀很有效，它已是Siddha。它就像你拥有的一个什么都有的万用包，你打开这个包，取得它。若任何人任何轮穴有阻塞，你只要念诵口诀就行。你拥有所有口诀的知识，你知道它是什么，你拥有所有知识，那些知识是那么隐密，其他人是不知道的。即使你没有念诵名号，你指着…每个人都知道发生什么，该往何处去，该说什么。所以虽然它是秘密，你们之间却有共识，你们是同类，互相了解。我们知道什么是什么，因此对自己，对别人没有坏感觉。虽然我说你的EeGeeOh先生是很大，却没有人回击我。基督的时代是不可能念诵EeGeeOh的名号，现在你可以说，亦可以清楚的看到你的自我，你的超我，你的荒谬，这个，那个，你能清楚看到一切。
即使有人拥有力量，例如一个生来已有自觉的人，他不懂提升灵量，除非他成为霎哈嘉瑜伽士，他不能提升灵量。这些只想着自己的生来已有自觉的人，应知道自己要成为霎哈嘉瑜伽士，不然他们是不会有成效，不能成为Kriyavati—他们不能行动起来。
你内在已经取得所有，你已经拥有神祇的完整知识，你知道他们为何生气，出什么问题，他们因为那种罪孽而生气。只要我说︰「不要犯下任何罪孽。」就这样。你会问︰「什么是罪孽？」若你说︰「不要犯下这种罪孽。」但现在却不谨如此，你想玩把戏，就会这样。这是…你的母亲强迫你做班丹，若你喝酒，就会吐；若你做任何错事，你的胃会不舒服，若你想逃避霎哈嘉瑜伽，你就要留下来，因为虽然你感觉不到它，但在你内在，已经感受到霎哈嘉瑜伽的魅力。
可是仍有一群人，虽然已有自觉，却未留下来。两者之间有何分别？很简单，是「确认」。仍未确认我的人是不会受到祝福，他们只会绕圈子。确认是必须的。现在有些人，像…我要说，很好的例子是ShirdiSainath的门徒，现在他已经不在，他们相信他，现在他在哪里？他们不相信在他们面前的降世神祇，却只相信一些死去的人。他们相信罗摩，相信基督。大部分基督徒都有这个问题，他们甚至只会把我与基督联系上。若我不能把自己连上基督，他们就不来霎哈嘉瑜伽，又或他们只会把我联系上摩西，又或类似的人。你要活在当下，你不能把我概念化。你的概念是有限的，就如若你出生在这里，就会是基督徒；若你出生在印度，就会是印度教徒；若你出生在中国，就会是中国人，你会有这样的眼睛，你是怎么样也可以，因此，当你不认同，你立即知道…你并不认同，因为生命能量会停止。那群处于两者之间的人—那些仍未完全安顿在霎哈嘉瑜伽，仍未完全获授权的人，就是没有确认我的人。有时他们却为未有确认我而感到很自豪︰「我们仍未确认」。这是愚蠢的。
一旦你确认，你的生命能量立即开始流通。这群人是来自不同…我们可以说来自不同的导师，他们都有问题，当他们来霎哈嘉瑜伽，就得到自觉。我要说我很慷慨，不管他们的状态如何，全都得到自觉。数天前有个妓女，她也得到自觉。霎哈嘉瑜伽给你一条很长的绳，若你恰当的拿到它，就不容易失去它。在来霎哈嘉瑜后，什么会发生︰作为光，你开始看到自己的缺点，接着你想否定霎哈嘉瑜伽。有些人开始有点麻痹，有些人平常是妥当的，但当我在场，他们开始颤抖，开始有点扭曲。有些人一旦看到我，你也看过，他们变得热起来，胃有点痛—因为，当你面对光，就开始面对自己，但你却不想面对自己，主要的问题是那些在霎哈嘉瑜伽仍未稳定的人，他们不想面对自己。若他们面对自己，就能很快纠正自己。因为有光，你不会认同你的缺点，你是医生，你拥有光，你运作，你也知道怎样运作。你只要决定︰「我要面对自己，让我看看我是谁。」这些缺点都会跑掉。你却不想面对它，这就是为何有自觉的人都不想面对它。那些感受到凉风的人，他们没想太多，因为若他们想太多，就要放弃自我，这个他们认同多年的自我。此外，他们要看看自己，他们说︰「不，我没有感到好一点，我有麻痹，这事情在发生，我身体发麻刺痛，这是…我怎会这样？它帮不了我，霎哈嘉瑜伽把我向后推。」他们开始责怪霎哈嘉瑜伽，而不是看到有些人得到改善。
你在责怪谁？你在责怪要拯救你的事物，你在责怪你的拯救者。最好是看看你的问题，你的缺点，迎上前。这样做是对自己仁慈︰摆脱所有毒蛇、蝎子，所有毒物，所有围绕你四周的东西，只要变得纯真。光已经来了。在这光中，你应该开始看到什么是实相，那么你就能摆脱对错误的认同，建立对实相的认同，不然这是不能做到。你要学习面对自己，永远都不论断。有些人习惯论断，即使是他的儿子，或他的兄弟，或他的妻子或丈夫，藉此你帮不到他们。这些负面的人会走在一起，通常两个负面的人会走在一起，上演一出戏剧。我很惊讶，这里连工会也没有。不然，我们会有「反玛塔吉负面的人的工会」。我是说你是会面对这种情况，因为他们常常联合一起，负面的人很有兄弟情谊，大的兄弟会。因为，你也看到，盗贼常常联群结党，他们互相很友好，保守所有秘密；只要有两个好人联合一起，整个世界都会改变。因此，你要明白，要接近正面的人，不然你不能发展霎哈嘉瑜伽。谁说负面的说话，你就不要接近他们。
在这个国家，有另一类人，因为明天你要成为导师，我在告诉你各种类型的人，他们不想面对自己，他们有很多途径避免面对自己。其一是︰一旦他们有自觉，就开始分析；你给他们什么，他们就分析。我是说在这个国家，他们以为自己可以分析一切。我不知这种想法从何而来，或许…来自科学家又或是心理学家，必定是…其他所谓智者—或许是这些人给他们这种想法︰一说到什么︰因为这样所以才这样。我是说他们甚至没有张开眼睛去看，你仍是小婴儿，怎能什么都分析？你开始分析一切。为何会有这种那种事情发生？一旦你开始分析，就失去一切…开始谈论它，分析它。你要做的是去接收它，理解它，多多吸收它，好好体验，不要找霎哈嘉瑜伽的缺点，只知道你的缺点只能透过霎哈嘉的爱来纠正。有些人甚至来找我︰「母亲，你为何不这样那样做？」我想我很清楚我的工作，他们想教我怎样做︰「你要这样做，你要那样做。」不管你有怎样的做法，若某人是玩偶人(盒盖开启则小人跳出)，他会常常跳出来，因为这是他的本性。你要改变这种本性，「把你的弹簧松开一点，安顿下来。」弹簧代表分析的态度，你会遇到很多这样的人。
所以该怎样接触这类人？我应对凡事分析的人是这样的，你们就是要这样应付这些人，听清楚，你给某人自觉，对吗？这个人感到手上有凉风，他开始说︰「那又怎样！我感到凉风，那又怎样？」你告诉他︰「你取得凉风，不是透过思考，对吗？又或透过分析？」「不是。」「你从未有过这种感觉？」「从未。」「你现在已经有这种感觉…这是什么？你解释一下。」你不能解释，这是超越你思考力量发生的事情，比你的思考更高的力量，你要明白，他们…他们认为无思无虑即他是疯子，你明白吗？若你谈无思无虑的觉醒，他们以为…「噢！即是说你不思考，即是说你很容易…原始。」若你不思考，他们认为你很原始，它是透过一种力量发生，那种力量比你高得多，想想你做过什么？透过思考…你切掉你的鼻子，你的眼睛，你的双手，你切掉一切。现在你要有一场大战争，奇妙的思考。所以你告诉他们︰「透过思考，你永远得不到它，这是一些更高的力量。」说说高层次的东西—是它给你这个。若你要身处更高的力量，你就要放下低层次的思考力量，他们就是这样清醒过来。若你说︰「噢！不要想。」他们会说︰「什么？不去想意思是想也不要去想，我是说这是一无是处。」这就是应付自大傲慢，常常思考，即使感到有凉风也不接受的人的方法。渐渐地，你就能帮助他们。
就导师而言，就如你现在那样，你拥有所有知识，所有力量，拥有一切，我们还欠缺的是信心…我们内在有种惰性，我不知道怎样摆脱这种惰性。你知道有时有惰性的人也有用途，把他们放进大炮里，在马戏班里引爆，就能展示他们的功绩。他们是那么呆滞，没什么能骚扰他们。但你是我的孩子，我以耶稣基督、格涅沙的形象来创造你们，你们随时可以运用祂们的力量。有时我也很失败，我不知道怎样去除你们的隋性，因为你仍未练习霎哈嘉瑜伽，仍未开始练习霎哈嘉瑜伽。你很容易，很便宜的得到自觉，因此，你不明白它的价值，只当它为旁枝，你知道吗？你要律己，除非你能律己，我让你有自由，因为我相信我孩子的自由，因为我认为他们不是低层次的类别，我要让他们有自由，他们不应滥用自由。你是絶对自由。若你想进地狱，我会给你一部战车，直通地狱；若你想进天堂，我会给你一部vimana—飞机，直飞天堂，这样做是为了让你变得有活力，有自信。
你知道每个轮穴，你知道灵量的提升，你知道一切，担起它吧！承担起它的人，你要明白…我可以很生你们气，很简单，但我没有，我要把工作完成，我要好好的与你说话，有时我也要责骂你们，我要求你们这样那样，你知道吗？浸泡你们，有时放一点油，有时这样那样做，有时给你一点热，有时给你一点冷，管理他们，不管如何，把他们带来，对待他们就像他们是在这里。同样，你也要这样对待他们，不要生他们气，生气是最容易，你要明白，接着就会出问题。有一次，我生你们气，我自有我的平和，没有问题。你真的要对他们所有人很有耐性，极之有耐性︰你的语气…「请你」，「很抱歉」，你能说出很多这种语句，我想它们已经失去价值，我们必须发自内心，要从心感受到︰「我们要拯救这个人，要帮助他。」有时我们也责骂他，因为你发觉大部分负面的人都是最了不起，最爱挑剔的人，他们会创造最伟大的场境，最大的炫耀…所有这些有可能…。
每一个人︰「你能为霎哈嘉瑜伽做什么。」把你能带来的人列一张清单，只有那些到过教堂一次…在圣诞节—或许每个星期天会捐款，也有些妥当的人，可以带来霎哈嘉瑜伽，安顿在后面，把他们安顿在后面可以是个担子，除非我们前面拥有真正的力量。所以你要决定，你是否玛塔吉的负担︰「我们来这里…我父亲病了，我母亲病了，我兄弟病了。」或「给我一份工作，为我做这事那事…我要有…。」这些事情都是一无事处，毫无用处。对我而言，这是絶对无用，没有意义的。我只是不太想及他们。若现在你说︰「好吧，我乐意为你做这样那样的事情。」同样，对其他人你也是这样说︰「为何我还要在意这些事情？它为何这么重要？你的人生要做些什么？」当你开始这样说话，你的智慧，你的伟大，你的一切都会得到赞赏。导师要知道自己力量的来源，他们要有正确的理想。他们应学习我，我怎样与人交谈，怎样在知道他们阻塞得很厉害时，仍能表现得从容不在意…我从不会告诉他们︰「鬼附着你。」从不—直至他们的头开摇动，他们絶对走得太远，我从没有个别的告诉他们。同样，你也不应忽然告诉某人︰「鬼附着你。」因为这样或许会令人感到失望沮丧。你们必须明白，任何唐突的，尖锐的说话都不会对他们有帮助。你要明白，导师的国度是不一样的，要成为导师是不同的。你要极之温柔，极之亲切，不然这些疯子会跑掉，会被摧毁，他们不知道自己是好人，你要告诉他们，他们是好人，你要亲切的与他们说话，你要做一切，尽力而为，把他们带来，你要这样做。所以今天你们都要作出承诺，就是你们全是导师，因此你们要展示…你已经彰显你的导师质量。当我回来，我想看到你们为此做了些什么，你们全部人都要
开始做了。
愿神祝福你们。
Shri Mataji : Any questions? Food can be served also… 有没有问题？传扬霎哈嘉瑜伽时，你会有问题。
瑜伽士︰母亲，什么东西是生来已有自觉的人有而我们没有？另外，什么是我们有而生来已有自觉的人没有？
生来而有自觉的人是很久以前已有自觉，他们出生在这个生命前已经有自觉，所以他们洁净得比你快得多，因为他们之前已经洁净了，所以洁净得佷快。通常他们不受吸引你的诱惑和堕落行为影响，他们是不同类型的人，很独特，愤世嫉俗，因为他们出生后，发觉其他人与他们的行为背道而驰，他们不懂怎样应对这些人，不懂怎样与其他人相处，不懂怎样处理这种状况，因此变得愤世嫉俗，有自己的想法，或许这些生来有自觉的人会发展自我，发展很大的自我，他们通常不受诱惑—若他们接受诱惑，就会看到自己已在诱惑中。而你们对一事有很大的能耐，因为你知道自己有自觉，你在有意识下得到自觉。当你知道自觉，就看到什么在发生，你因此知道它的价值。就如你生在富裕的家庭，就不会知道富裕的价值；若你不是生在富裕家庭，却忽然拥有很多钱，你就能作出比较，知道有什么分别。
同样在霎哈嘉瑜伽，当你本来没有自觉但之后得自觉，你就能比较。对霎哈嘉瑜伽士而言，自觉的价值比生来已有自觉的人大得多。有些有自觉的灵或许会明白，但他们比较个人主义，没有你们那么合群集体。其二，因为你这一生经历过，在你的记忆里有你做过的错事…你对其他犯错的人更慈悲，更体谅；而有自觉的人对这些人并没有太大耐性，他们有自己处事的方式。若他们来霎哈嘉瑜伽，会是更有活力，更了不起，这是毋庸置疑，但他们不会那么容易接受霎哈嘉瑜伽，因为他们以为自己是「妥当的，为何现在要接受什么？」因为他们是满足的人。除非他们学懂一些事情，不然他们是帮不了人类。就如一个人，他很聪明，很有才智，与生俱来很有才智，他不喜欢上学，就会错过学校的一切︰学校的纪律，学校完整的知识。我是说他可能妥当，也颇聪明，但他却没
能恰当的学会只能从学校才学到的一切，除此之外，他缺乏同伴，与我为伴，因为我已经给你们自觉，所以你对我比他们对我更多感觉。
就如母亲生下孩子，孩子没有见过母亲，他对他的母亲没有其他人对他们的母亲的感觉，所以这是你取得最了不起的东西。若生来已有自觉的人依附着霎哈嘉瑜伽，他们也会发展同样的感觉，喜乐油然而生，因为你(译按︰指生来已有自觉的人)开始看到你的母亲怎样每时每刻照顾你，她怎样创造戏剧，创造魔法。因为不是我给你自觉，所以你忘记母亲，你忘记她…你以为︰「噢！我已有自觉。」你有类似的想法。
有没有其他问题？
瑜伽士︰这可能是个愚蠢的问题，自觉是否会失去，当我已经有自觉，我会否失去它？
玛塔吉︰这不是蠢问题，絶对不是。你要明白，就像这样︰当你成为人类，你生而为人的小孩，对吗？若把这个小孩放进狐羣里，孩子就会像狐狸般长大，他没有人类的意识，只有狐狸的意识，但身体仍是个小孩。同样，一旦你有自觉，你就跳进超级人类的意识，若你不容许它恰当的生长，它仍会生长，也必须生长，不然它不会彰显出来。这就是为何会失去自觉，某程度上，你要一次又一次重生，它会迎上来。很多人已经失去它，才智？大问题，我也不知道，因为我从不知道有这种蠢人。我只在我这一世看到这种愚蠢、白痴的人。已经有自觉的人也不明白自觉的价值，你会否随时都想起这类人。
自觉也会失去…有自觉后，你不会有像喝很多酒的感觉，你想强迫自己
再次做坏人，灵量或许不会升起，这就是为何虽然会打开…但灵量完全不会升起，这是会发生的，我知道有很多人，我是说这是很新的事情，你知道吗？在斗争期，一切都很有趣，这是最有趣的事情，真的，我很惊讶，我对人类感到很惊讶，他们得到自觉，来静坐班，给十个人自觉，
之后却回到从前，失去生命能量，这是颇为有趣，是吗？斗争期创造了这种组合排列，无休止的，不可能理解他们。
这个问题絶不愚蠢，因为你看，愚蠢的人在这里，他们以为自己能融入这里，这是事实—很可悲—但是事实，它发生，这类人，我是说我不能想象这类人，我从未梦过会遇到这类人。我想︰「一旦我给他们自觉，他们都会成为霎哈嘉瑜伽士，很好…。」你知道，我在这里，你有否看过任何果实成为花朵？哈！我是说，真的！我从不知道会有这种逆转，人类透过他的自我也有这种逆转，他们已经做到。你知道当蛋孵成小鸡，小鸡不能变回蛋，对吗？但人类却可以，我的孩子，他们都是蠢人。你说得对，这是事实，会失去自觉，他们很多人都失去自觉。所以你最好告诉他们，你看，这是唯一的方法…这样做的好处是你能令他们害怕，你看︰「不要这样做，不然你会失去自觉。」若他们在意，他们就会妥当。人类却变得表面虚假，他们只是不在意，不大在意。你告诉他们︰「你不应这样，这是错的。」他们会说︰「我知道，我知道。」「那么为何你还这样做？」「我知道，我知道！」
现在，你知道什么？你不知道怎样与这类人交谈，他们一些人快要进疯人院，或许他们还未进疯人院，我们要面对他们，他们一些人就像这样，半笨蛋…令人害怕，你怎样称呼他们，各式各样的称呼。有一事你必须知道，那些骑着自我的人大多是愚蠢的大主教。若你要应付笨蛋，你不知道他们会做什么。你看到笨蛋，你不知道他想怎样，你怎能知道？对正常的人，这是很困难的。我曾经看过这种事情，他们看来很合情理，当他们走路，却是笨蛋，你给他们一颗钻石，告诉他们︰「这是钻石，要好好看顾它。」他们会把钻石抛掉，他们以为︰「噢！我毫不执着，我甚至对自己的自觉不感兴趣。」或许他们以为这是个恰当的辩解。我不能解释，但这是事实，不要紧，我会处理他们—一段时间后。他们是个难题，你知道吗？他们很令人头痛。所以首先尝试简单的字句，才用艰深的字句，要时常先用简单的语句。
透过生命能量，你知道一切，你知道自己的位置和他们的位置。透过生命能量，你能测度你的成就，你能…我是说你知道自己的停泊处，我的意思是相对的位置，你知道一切，所以没有问题，你知道很多。
Hm what other question? [Marathi word “wathaapini?”]
巴拿？「你在这里。」巴拿在他其中一封信提到，有个男人要拥有三件事情。第一件稀有的事情是他要生而为人，这是很稀有的；其二是他要有遇见神的欲望；其三是他要找到一位好导师。这三种事情都已经发生了…(你已得到自觉)，那么，我们在做什么？这就是问题，我是说一切都已经发生，全在这里！你该怎办？你给予光，他们说我们…或许我已经开悟了你，那么你该做什么？给予光！就这样！把你的灯保持清洁，发出光，就这样，没其他事情要做了，你不要把你的灯放在角落里，或藏在沙发下。
Are you better now. How are you? Good. Are you alright now? You, good. David?
David: Yes I am, Mother.
Shri Mataji: Oh. That David also is he alright?
瑜伽士︰我在想你说的话，我们怎能帮助生来有自觉的人？他们不轻易接受别人的好意，他们不会来霎哈嘉瑜伽。我们怎能帮助他们？
玛塔吉︰他们要自己帮自己，不要在意他们。Now this Mr. Gent [said as in “get”] of yours or Gent [said as in “jet”] or whatever his name is. He’s trying to study all the four这个男士，他想学习…你怎样称这个瑜伽，他在做什么？这是伟大的瑜伽，全都在内里，他必须来，他不想与我见面，在逃避，你又能对他做什么？看看他们，他更偏向超意识，对吗？拉加瑜伽(RajaYoga)和其他瑜伽全都是骗子，全是谬论。 That’s not Raja Yoga at all! It’s all misappropriation and, I don’t know what to call it like…有次有人告诉我，是用梵文写下来︰当灵量升起，她变成Kriyavati，Gyanavati，意思是她变得活跃—变得活跃，拉加瑜伽的说法是当你的灵量升起，你会像猴子般跳跃，不是这样，它的意思是当你变得活跃，你开始提升别人的灵量。这就是他们为何建立了很大地方的所谓拉加瑜伽，他们说这是拉加瑜伽。
瑜伽士︰母亲，我们能否在别人不知情下提升他的灵量？
玛塔吉︰可以，可以，你可以提升，但…。
瑜伽士︰这样做较容易，因为有些人，虽然看到霎哈嘉瑜伽美丽之处，却拒絶来霎哈嘉瑜伽，或与它有任何接触。
玛塔吉︰你提升他们的灵量，他们慢慢就会来，可是，他们要知道自己有自觉，这是必须的。
瑜伽士︰他们知道，我遇过一些人，他们感到自己很差，他们说自己仍未准备好接受霎哈嘉瑜伽。
玛塔吉︰你要说︰「你怎样判断自己？」你也可以这样说︰「我常常都说…说同一样事情，这是潮流。现在，不管你是否准备好，审判的时刻已经来临。」没有人会把他们从坟墓里拉出来，审判他们。
瑜伽士︰那么我们能否只把…。
玛塔吉︰你就留给我们去看你是否受判断…你是否准备好。这全是潮流，这是新类型。「我们未准备好，我是很坏的母亲，我一无事处，我没用。」
瑜伽士︰母亲，他们一些人很年青，他们感到，若接近神，作为年青人，他们会失去自由，你明白，要漫不经心的对他们说是很困难的…我在说人的纯真…。
玛塔吉︰这就是问题，你要告诉他们…你要明白，自由和放任是不同的，这是两回事，我们要明白，就如你手上拿着风筝，对吗？风筝在你手里，若你容许风筝随处飞，这是放任。自由是你调动它，控制它，以你喜欢的方式运用它，这就是自由。那么你是自由的，若你在一些人手上…毫无根基的随意漫游…这就是放任，若是这样，随之而来的常常是惩罚。就如你会惊讶于西方国家，有很多阳痿的人，难以置信的高，就像这样。他们对性谈得太多，性要谈吗？这是不能成事，很多阳痿的病例在西方国家发生。这种污秽的疾病是由任意的性行为所引致，很大百分比，我们要阻止这种情况发生。若有人说︰「请给我自由，让我把双手放进电线里。」这是自由吗？我不明白，他们享受的是怎样的自由。因为妒忌，你不能与很多女孩交往，因为妒忌，你不能与很多男孩交往，你要明白，可能有谋杀案发生。为何这些日子人们要杀人？他们的自我受伤害，即使有这种情况，你看一些戏剧…你会很惊讶，常常有种感觉…没有人说︰「好吧，你有男朋友？照办吧，我很快乐。」我不曾听任何人这样说，没有人喜欢这样，这样带来伤害！他们秘密的去做，不会公开。若这是自由，理应能公开，这有什么秘密，他们向与他们有关连的人隐瞒这种关系，只秘密的去做。这样不好，他们在欺骗自己，欺骗另一个人，欺骗的行为！
这是没有自由。就如有贼走进来，想拿走一点物品，他说︰「我有拿走东西的自由。」就像这样。若你把目光放在某个属于别人的人身上，你就是在盗窃。在登记办公室里说，这属于我，那就是我的。同样，在登记办公室说你是某某的妻子，你的丈夫就是主人，或你是你的丈夫的主人。我是说这是两人之间的关系。例如有某种关系像贼一样建立起来，你只能秘密的进行，你明白我说的重点吗？这不能在任何地方登记，不然他们就变得絶对无耻，絶对放任，全部人最终都在四十五岁进孤儿院，看上去很老，破烂不堪，孤僻，受人排斥，还有什么，受人切割的人。要应对实相，必须要强烈，即使爱也要强烈，不然你只是愚弄自己，在玩把戏。你看他们只是想玩把戏，这不能为他们带来什么，这不是自由，是愚蠢的行为，是愚弄自己，只是认同自己。自由的意思是去除自我，而不是去除智慧。
瑜伽士︰母亲，我们有没有杀死恶魔的力量？
玛塔吉︰当然有，你们已经杀死很多恶魔，这是你拥有最低限度的力量。
Sahaja Yogini: [INAUDIBLE – something to do with using “mardini” from the negativity destroying mantras together with someone’s name?]
玛塔吉︰你向任何人念诵mardini这句口诀，就这样。就像这样︰我有资格，就是我杀死他们，我有资格，若你念诵我的名号，我已经取得权力，他们就完蛋了，他们所有力量都失掉，你运用这些力量，你已获授权，不然你怎样拯救这些练习超觉静坐，练习不同功法的人？可怜的家伙，可怕恶魔紧握着他们。
瑜伽士︰他们完蛋了，不会以另一形相再来？
玛塔吉︰不会，我是说…你要明白他们有很多不同风格，你肯定杀掉他们一些人。就像在战场里中，明白吗？你在杀敌，你杀死第一个，接着第二个士兵，第三个士兵，第四个士兵，就像这样。
瑜伽士︰母亲，鞋打法对阻塞得很厉害的人和被鬼附的人有什么效用？我们应否鞋打这些人…。
玛塔吉︰不要，我们要把兴趣转移一点，给他们相片，让相片来为他们洁净，若他们对相片不感兴趣，就忘记这个人吧。你不应关心对相片不感兴趣的人，这是最佳的途径，为何不必要的浪费自己的精力？
瑜伽士︰若这些人与我们有直接接触，例如他们与我们一起生活，那该怎么办？我们只是不能不理他们。
玛塔吉︰不，若他们对此事不听你的话，你要尝试与他们断絶来往，也要告诉我他们的名字，我来处理。
Sahaja Yogini: I’m telling You the names to get rid of it?
[Laughter]
Shri Mataji: No, no, no. Give Me in writing, you see. Give Me in writing and give Me a photograph. Then I’ll manage.
Sahaja Yogi: I’m living with some
Shri Mataji: Hum?
Sahaja Yogi: I’m living with some.
Shri Mataji: Alright? You give Me the names.
[Shri Mataji laughs]
Sahaja Yogi: No Ma, I’ve been living with them for six years.
Shri Mataji: Yes, but you give Me the names, and the thing, I’ll manage them.
Can I have my sweater, it’s here.
Sahaja Yogi: No, I mean there’s no need Mother.
Shri Mataji: Hum?
Sahaja Yogi: There’s no need, You know?
Shri Mataji: There’s no need at all. Forget them. You see no need to do that, firstly. Secondly is that you learn you see they’re a good subject to learn. You see otherwise how will you know what sort of people they are?
Sahaja Yogi: All right.
Shri Mataji: My sweater? Oh, there…
What’s happening to the biryani? The first attempt was biryani, [Mother laughs] and they asked Me the recipe, and – God save them – I told them that “don’t try all these things,” but they said “No. we’ll do it.” So, they must have done something. Just give Me.)
You see among yourself only you can find out. Just now they say “How Kuli has answered the question.” Just don’t worry. (Who is there?) You are living with stones and you are living with so many other things. This…
Sahaja Yogini [Italian]: But, don’t You think Mother of the children? Through their innocence they have more chances to get their Realization faster than the adults?
Shri Mataji: Children?
Sahaja Yogini: Yes.
Shri Mataji: Yes they can. But I mean, some children can be very nasty, can be horrible.
Can you close the window?
Sahaja Yogi: shut the curtain rather.
Shri Mataji: Better, let him do it. No-no I think better [unclear words]. Sit down, sit down. Kya hala tumhara. Aap teek ho gay?
Rustom: Abhi Ma. Almost. Hundred percent.
Shri Mataji Acha? Hundred percent. Sab pal tumha kya ha le. Aap teek ho gay? Bal tum lo gay si dira dev chalte ho…
[…Mother continues in Hindi and calls in Marathi to the Maharashtrians at the back of the room]
They can’t hear Me. [Marathi words]
Rustom: Mataji, shall we bring the khana here before Your feet?
Shri Mataji: Ha?
Rustom: Shall we bring the food before Your feet?
Shri Mataji: Kya what is it?
Rustom: Shall we bring the food here, before Your feet?
Shri Mataji: All right, if you want to. There’s no need. You do one thing, you take it.
Sahaja Yogi [offering food]: Mix something with it?
Shri Mataji: No that’s all. Can I give it in something so that you can…just pour it in. Yes please.
Sahaja Yogi [French]: Peter is back.
Shri Mataji: [Marathi words]. Very well done. Rustom? You have done it very well.
Rustom: The ladies should be thanked Mother. Maureen and Cathy.
Shri Mataji: Very good. Little salt is needed.
Rustom: Ah, that’s true. I thought so too.
Shri Mataji: Very well done.
Nichessa purani kallo? [Marathi words] That is how we all meet and love each other and -nice isn’t it.
Sahaja Yogi [Patrice]: Djamel is going to have an army of Ayatollahs on their backs.
[Laughter]
Djamel: No, no, I’m trying to suggest the ideology around here, because all the Ayatollahs are going to be trapped by the Americans.
Shri Mataji: You know but, I must say I was surprised – thanks to you – that your President has done something about it. He’s very much different. You know, he has helped President Carter in some way, because President Carter has thanked him very much. Your President. Algerian.
Djamel: Not supporting the-
Shri Mataji: No he has said something by which he, I don’t know, for some “unknown reasons” they wrote, that President Carter thanked the President of Algeria.
But what do you think about this mosque? What are they doing there?
Who could these be people?
Patrice: It’s a new messiah. Mother. one more.
Djamel: I think they’re probably from the Muslim Brothers you know they…
Shri Mataji: From the?
Djamel: There’s a sect called the “Muslim Brothers” you see they’re very extremist
Shri Mataji: More than these?
Djamel: Oh, of course. More than these Ayatollahs.
Shri Mataji: They are from what country, from…?
Djamel: Oh, they’re everywhere, mainly in Egypt.
Sahaja Yogi1: Egypt,
Shri Mataji: But Egyptians are against this.
Djamel: We have them mostly in Algeria, but they are not regarded, well regarded by people also
Shri Mataji: What do they do, murders and things?
Djamal: No, they just have their own fanatic ways, you see? And sometimes they can be violent. Like in Egypt, they have been very violent.
Shri Mataji: Acha. I mean they have those weapons and things with them?
Djamel: No Not, not, not generally no. But they are capable, yeach. If someone tries to lead them, to lead them or something or other they can…
Shri Mataji: Like we had…
Djamel: Organizing of so many coup d’Etats, you see.
Shri Mataji: [To someone else] But dhal has salt quite a lot, tell them. So if you mix it up with dhal, you need not have salt.
Something like “Anand Marg” we had in India?
Djamel: But nobody, in Algeria, nobody really likes the Iranians anymore.
Shri Mataji: Ah?
Djamel: They don’t like this Ayatollah anymore.
Shri Mataji: I think so…
Djamel: They think…
Shri Mataji: I mean they have really insulted God!
Djamel: I mean… He thinks God is only for the Muslims, you know.
Shri Mataji: Oh look at our Pakistanis. You know Americans always supported Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis against India. Americans always have a speciality of always supporting wrong people.
[Laughter]
Then they withdraw, but always I don’t know why they do it.
Djamel: Mother, you see why, because the Muslims usually are against the Russians you see, so they like the Muslims. But then you see, ? Vietnam? did not work out.
Shri Mataji: Ah.
Djamel: You see Communism supposed to stand for atheism.
Shri Mataji: Acha.
No, it’s a very generalized way of saying, that, because they are Muslims, they will be against Russians or they will be for Russians for Americans.
Sahaja Yogi: The majority are against the Russians because they…I mean they’re against…’cause when You were saying…
Shri Mataji: Because they don’t believe in religion.
Sahaja Yogi: Yea…Whenever someone says “Communism,” automatically its…
Sahaja Yogini: Atheism…yea.
Shri Mataji: But, against India, they have been always. Americans have been very much against India, and against favoring these two countries in the international fields. Even Ceylon…
Sahaja Yogi: Will be supporting…
Shri Mataji: Even Ceylon, you know. They created all enemies for India to deal with.
If fearing God, fearing people are to be supported, then Indians are very God-fearing.
Americans are not.
Sahaja Yogini [Italian]: Mother, can we use some of that salt for our food?
Shri Mataji: Hum?
Sahaja Yogini: Can we use some of that salt?
Shri Mataji: Nicely made. Eh?
Sahaja Yogini: Yeach.
Shri Mataji: They wrote down they whole thing.
Sahaja Yogi [French]: It’s the first puja where we sing something properly Mother.
Shri Mataji: Hm?
Sahaja Yogi2: It was the first puja here where we sung something properly.
Shri Mataji: Gavin practices. I was so enamored and so much, I must say very pleasantly surprised, the way you sung the Marathi aarti. How did you get it? I’m just…
Sahaja Yogini: When we were in India we got it.
Shri Mataji: Aacha.
Gavin: We also had a tape, so we checked.
Shri Mataji: Good. What about these Maharashtrian ladies. Have they gone? Or they are there?
Sahaja Yogi: Yea they were
Shri Mataji: Ha?
Sahaja Yogi: No, they at the back Mother.
Shri Mataji: They have brought something […Mother converses briefly in Marathi with those at the back…] Every body should have something to eat.
Nabhi is very much vibrating. Lower Nabhi.
Kuli, some water for Me, to drink. Water.
Sahaja Yogi: Mother. How can we help people who are born Realized, who meditate with the photograph but cannot feel the vibrations.
Shri Mataji: Can’t feel?
Sahaja Yogi: Can’t feel the cool breeze.
Shri Mataji: How do you say he’s born Realized.
Sahaja Yogi: feel cool from on the palm from there.
Shri Mataji: Ha?
Sahaja Yogi: I feel cool on the palms from this person.
Shri Mataji: But he doesn’t. If he doesn’t accept Me, he cannot feel the cool breeze from Me.
Sahaja Yogi [Scottish?]: This particular person has got the cool breeze, once or twice, the cool. Just feel it and then not very…
Shri Mataji: That means he has to accept Me much more.
Sahaja Yogi: Pardon?
Shri Mataji: He has to accept Me. He has to accept Me much more.
Sahaja Yogi: That may be the problem Mother, but this person hasn’t actually had the chance to meet You yet.
Shri Mataji: If that’s all, then he will get it when he’ll meet Me.
Sahaja Yogi: I mean he’s vegetarian.
Shri Mataji: You see, when he’ll meet Me, he has to accept Me. If he doesn’t accept Me he cannot get cool breeze. Deities know. Deities know about it.
I’ll tell you a simple example: We had a visitor in our house, his name wa, what was it? “Shaha.” What was his name, Mukud? Your friend.
Sahaja Yogi: Mukuncha
Shri Mataji: Mukuncha, Mukuncha. He had his Realization and everything, he was a Sahaj Yogi, came to see Me but I was having My bath. So he went upstairs and this Ganesha was kept there. And he started feeling his own vibrations, he never got any vibrations, nothing. He was surprised, he got a shock. He thought that “what has happened” has he lost all his vibrations? And Ganesha would not give any vibrations to him.
So he came down, I’d finished My bath, he said, “Mother, I don’t know. What is what I did,” He didn’t even touch My feet he was so frightened. “I’ve lost my vibrations; I can’t feel any vibrations from Ganesha!” I said ‘Really?” He said “Yes.” I said “You touch My feet and now go and see.” He touched My feet; he went up, and the vibrations were alright. I said “He knows Me. You must touch My feet first otherwise He’s not going to give you vibrations too.”
Sahaja Yogi: This person now I was talking about Mother, lives in Scotland, quite a long way off – so it’s difficult. But they, they not well-off. They’re on social security. So, this person can’t come down to see you.
Shri Mataji: I’ll go to Glasgow, some day. And tell him to accept Me, more and more. Then his conditions will improve. Why is he on social security?
Sahaja Yogi: It’s a lady, and her husbands on social security. He’s deaf and it’s difficult for him to get a job in Scotland.
Shri Mataji: Haven’t they got a job? They should try for a job. Also social security people don’t get vibrations. Very true. You see, you are not to be parasite on your society.
Yogi: He’s not a parasite Mother. He trying to get jobs there. But, because of his infirmity, his deafness.
Shri Mataji: No once in a while is alright if you…but you must be trying for a job, I mean he shouldn’t like that kind of a life. Alright? So you tell him both the things, that “You must find out a good job for yourself”, as well as – in this country is not difficult to make money, really not too difficult.
Sahaja Yogi: It is in Scotland, it’s more difficult than it is here, Mother.
Shri Mataji: No, I mean –
Sahaja Yogi: …shortage of jobs there. Specially for people…
Shri Mataji: Even if you do baby-sitting, you can make money here. You can. You see if you want to live on…because of the social thing you have got it, you depend on it.
Sahaja Yogi: I’ll tell them Mother to do about it
Shri Mataji: But don’t tell him like that, he’ll feel hurt. You just tell him that “Mataji was saying ‘you should try to accept Me more’ and I’ll get him a job also.” He will find his job.
(Can I wash, wipe My hands)
Sahaja Yogi: Actually, it’s the wife who was meditating, and her husband I think is born Realized too, but, he doesn’t meditate regularly. But he’s got the cool breeze.
Shri Mataji: Oh I see. He’ll come round, don’t you worry. What’s his name?
Sahaja Yogi: The husband’s name is Tom.
Shri Mataji: Tom.
Sahaja Yogi: The wife is Jetta.
Shri Mataji: What’s it?
Sahaja Yogi: The wife is Jetta.
Shri Mataji: Jetta. Alright. You see they have to accept Me, that’s the only thing is. Many people, They get vibrations, say, from Gavin, but not from Me. There are some like that!
Kuli: Sorry, Mataji?
Shri Mataji: Hum.
Kuli: I said to one man, “see if you can feel the vibrations from this photograph?” you see? He said “No, I don’t believe in photographs.” So as a joke, then I said to him, see if you can feel them from Me?” He was willing to that, but he wasn’t willing to put his hands to the photograph.
Shri Mataji: See! He, Gavi, he’s telling us a concrete result. He’s saying that there was someone whom he said that “Why don’t you see your vibrations from the photograph ? If you get the vibrations.” Then he said “I don’t believe in photographs, I’ll not feel it.” So he said “Alright, you put your hands towards me if you get the cool breeze. He put his hands to Kuli but he would not put to the photograph. Though Kuli would put his hands but he would not.
Kuli: You know I said to him “I got it from the photograph,” and he wouldn’t put his hands to the photograph.
Shri Mataji [laughing]: Typical. We have another one in India. Like Rajesh. He has got two sister-in-laws and they said that “we feel cool breeze from you, but not from [the photograph] …
- H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi