古哈拉希什米崇拜

Sydney (Australia)

1981-04-07 Sahaja Marriage and Gruha Lakshmi Puja Talk, Sydney, Australia DP, 19' Download subtitles: CS,EN,FI,FR,NL,PL,PT,SK,TRView subtitles:
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霎哈嘉瑜伽婚姻和古哈拉希什米崇拜

1981年4月7日澳洲悉尼

今天是结婚周年纪念日,我准许他们庆祝是因为婚姻在霎哈嘉瑜伽是十分重要的,婚姻是霎哈嘉瑜伽最重要的事情之一,你们应该结婚。首先,若你对婚姻有正确的观念,婚姻时常都能给你平衡的理解;若你对婚姻有滑稽的念头,或你只是为了好玩而结婚,而又不明白婚姻的价值,那么婚姻对你只是一场游戏而不是婚姻。在霎哈嘉瑜伽,你首先要真正明白婚姻的价值,它有什么意义。今天幸运地我们将会有霎哈嘉瑜伽婚礼,你因此能看到我们如何依照上天婚姻的律法来进行及完成婚礼。

在澳洲以及其他的国家,我发现婚姻已经失去了它神圣的意义,人们不明白他们正做着违反婚姻的罪孽(sin),他们所犯的这种罪孽令许多代的人因此受苦。我们必须明白忠贞是婚姻的基础。如果没有忠贞,婚姻便失去了意义,若你未能忠贞,那代表你还不是人类,人类必须有忠贞。

就婚姻而言,我们确定问题已经结束,我们的选择已经结束,现在我们选定与某人安顿下来,与这个人一起分享生活甚至私生活,所以你必须与这个人和谐配合,要互相了解体谅,忠诚对待对方。

现在,就如他们所说,婚姻是为了繁殖后代。你们是另一品种,你们是霎哈嘉瑜伽士—这是一种全新的意识—你们的婚姻会带来高质素的孩子。很多伟大的圣人都渴望投生于地球上。若他们发现任何霎哈嘉瑜伽士的配偶是相亲相爱的,在霎哈嘉瑜伽里进展良好的,对霎哈嘉瑜伽充满热忱,那么,他们肯定会透过这对配偶降临在地球上。所以在此时此刻,这是既十分重要亦十分逼切的我们应该明白这些价值,霎哈嘉瑜伽婚姻的价值。

之前已经有很多人结了婚,但这些人不是有自觉的灵,却以神的名义来结婚,这些婚姻怎会有效,怎会可信?若要以神的名义来结婚,他们必须是有自觉的灵。他们是不获授权以神的名义来结婚。以注册之名结婚又是另一回事,因为他们不是以神的名义,而是以国家的名义来结婚。若你要以神的名义结婚,你必须是有自觉的灵,亦应该明白婚姻的每一个细节,你在做着些什么,为什么要这样做,要作出一些承诺。我们的婚姻制度是源自传统的婚姻制度,也按照霎哈嘉瑜伽作出很多的改变,而我们曾经尝试采用所有,也采用一些教堂及其他宗教的礼仪,但它主要是以灵量为基础。

是向火元素作出承诺,在这个婚礼中,要对火作出承诺;因为火烧毁所有丑陋的东西,而灵量也像火一样,因为它是唯一向上升的能量,看!像火向上燃烧,灵量也是向上升的,这就是为什么灵量能与火相比。火是位于腹部的能量,那是正法(dharma),亦是宗教;霎哈嘉瑜伽士的宗教就是要保持在中央,不走向极端。一旦他们结婚,借着对霎哈嘉瑜伽的理解,他们互相拉对方更接近中央,享受大家的共处—现在、现在此刻,当下此刻。

若已婚的霎哈嘉瑜伽士是明智的,平衡的,不互相批评,不专横控制,霎哈嘉瑜伽婚姻可以是十分美满出色。当一个霎哈嘉瑜伽士与另一个瑜伽士结婚,是有可能互相逐步提升,若他们其中一个是较为专横或负面,亦有可能把另一个瑜伽士拉下,是提升或拉下就取决于你的质素。

婚姻在霎哈嘉瑜伽里是很大的祝福,因为所有的神祇,所有天使都在观察这些婚姻,他们要看到这些是成功的婚姻,但是若你还带着过往的意识,仍想过着过往的生活,你会令这段婚姻失败,那你会下滑至仿如动物般。若你与动物一起生活,连人类也可能变得像动物。所以霎哈嘉瑜伽士必须知道他们的意识已经改变,他们是不同的人,他们必须与霎哈嘉瑜伽士,而不是与其他未获自觉的人一起生活。他们可以与其他人谈话,但他们必须明白霎哈嘉瑜伽士的意识是在一个很不同的层次水平,若他们了解这一点,了解他们的意识是十分不一样这个简单的重点,他们就更易适应婚姻生活。

霎哈嘉瑜伽是没有离婚,我们没想过离婚,但没什么是可以勉强的,我的意思是若他们无法一起生活,这是一种遗憾。直至现在,仍没有离婚出现。但人们是来自不同文化背景,他们有可能想合法的离婚。在霎哈嘉瑜伽里是没有离婚这回事,也不会勉强任何人。我们要明白婚姻是为了喜乐欢愉,若你无法享受,无法享受婚姻,婚姻就失去了用处。在霎哈嘉瑜伽里,人们要保证能享受他们的婚姻,并能一起快乐的生活,这是他们在霎哈嘉瑜伽里的义务责任。

就以我为例,我个人的情况,我的丈夫不是有自觉的灵,他亦不明白自觉,也不是个求道者,尽管如此…

 (有个孩子来了)(他想坐在我的膝上!)

…尽管如此,你看,我并没有感到任何失望沮丧,我没有强迫他,也没有强迫任何人。我说︰「他会慢慢的看清楚。」

所以即使那个人,那个人没有自觉也能处理得很好,亦能快活的生活。若你们两个都是有自觉,这是最好不过,应是很享受的。但必须合乎霎哈嘉瑜伽的利益。若你有其他利益便会出问题,因为霎哈嘉瑜伽士不会容忍他的妻子或丈夫浪费精力在无聊荒唐的事情上,这样新的冲突就会在霎哈嘉瑜伽与霎哈嘉瑜伽士之间产生,这永远都不应有任何冲突,因为我们有很多方法途径去找出我们出什么问题。若我们有任何出错,就要面对它,把它洁净,我们不应尝试洁净对方的轮穴,而是要洁净自己的轮穴,实际上,我们没有放注意力在自己身上,却把注意力放在别人身上。

此外,我必须说霎哈嘉瑜伽的婚姻会是最成功的婚姻—必须要是。他们会重新建立健全的婚姻基础,这是毋庸置疑的。那些在霎哈嘉瑜伽内成婚的人明显会是快乐的已婚配偶。一旦他们结婚,便会立即受负面能量侵袭,因为这些负面能量不喜欢看到人们有愉快的婚姻,他们会尽力把问题,在开始时把纠纷混乱带给他们,要看到这段婚姻破裂。一旦你被他们误导,便会破坏拥有好的自觉的灵的机会,因为他们不接受这种状况。若你开始时已经有争吵,这也不是好事,因为你会在他们的预计下下跌。

所以你必须很有耐性,很温柔,善待对方,要看到你创造了邀请这些伟大的灵来到地球的氛围。若不是这样,他们便要等待,不会降世,因为他们不想有吵闹的,打架的,互相猜疑,互找麻烦的父母。

现在,我们要知道霎哈嘉瑜婚姻有一个明确的原因,不是出于时尚潮流而结婚,结婚是因为你想拥有有自觉的灵的孩子,让他们来到地球上。我们要给他们一个场地,以父母的身份来迎接他们。若你不明白婚姻的价值,最好还是不要在霎哈嘉瑜伽里结婚。最好不要伤害霎哈嘉瑜伽。在霎哈嘉瑜伽只有一个snag,就是你们都是同一位母亲所生,你们全是兄弟姊妹。若你们之间要结婚,那就有点滑稽了,兄弟怎能与姊妹结婚?现在,我们可以这样说,我要说最好你们不在同一小区,而是在另一处结婚。至少悉尼的霎哈嘉瑜伽士该与墨尔本的霎哈嘉瑜伽士结婚,至少要像这样有点距离,那么便不大像兄弟与姊妹结婚,这样会较好。

我曾经看到,这样也产生更多矛盾冲突,因为他们仍然有他们是来自墨尔本而另一个来自…的想法,(你们怎样称呼它?) —悉尼。 (我就是不能告诉他们) —悉尼。现在悉尼和墨尔本不该再有冲突。因为一旦他们开始争吵,他们会说︰「噢!你这个墨尔本人,我就是知道你会这样。」

而她会说︰「你这个悉尼人,你就是这样。」

你立即变得像这样,开始为此争吵。你必须知道自己不是悉尼人或墨尔本人,你只是霎哈嘉瑜伽士。霎哈嘉瑜伽士没有种性,小区或任何种族,或任何宗教,或任何国家的界限。不管你是来自那个国家,你是霎哈嘉瑜伽士,是普遍的存在体—你是。你能感觉到任何坐在这里的人的生命能量,不管他是来自夏威夷或来自美国,都不要紧。

所以,一旦你能感觉任何人,即是说你不再属于任何小区,或任何特定的国家,你是宇宙普遍的存在体。我们就是要变得这样。我们要创造更多宇宙的存在体。为了加快速度,我们要令这些伟大的灵来到地球上,这是份十分重要的工作。他们必须在这地球上,因为他们是这上天的工作伟大的管道。一旦他们开始降临地球上—那些真命天子—速度便会加快,这是那么伟大—你不知道,这会是很快速突发的霎哈嘉瑜伽爆发。你会惊讶于怎么这些人的降临,能令成长的速度那么快。我们要尝试作出这种安排,让我们能得到这些人真正的祝福,就是他们降临这个地球。这是很重要的。

所以我请求你们以新的角度,新的想法来思考婚姻,这样你才能真正明白婚姻的价值,才能有成功而不是失败或荒谬的婚姻。失败或荒谬的婚姻是一种罪孽,因为你是在有自觉的灵面前结婚。

这是与其他人结婚时说「刚结婚」不可同日而言,他们在汽车上挂上「刚结婚」这个名片—而他们却步入离婚。霎哈嘉瑜伽没有这种事—这是严肃认真的事情。若你对婚姻还未够严肃认真,若你对婚姻有期望,最好不要结婚,没有人会强迫你结婚,只要说︰「不,完全不行,我不要结婚。」若你仍然像这样子,你会真的以最差劲的方式伤害霎哈嘉瑜伽,就像在背后刺霎哈嘉瑜伽。

若你不想结婚,你是没有必要结婚。相反,最好是很多想生孩子的夫妇结缗,那么他们便能生下一些伟大的人。若你只想着要调节,对婚姻生活有各种陈旧古板的想法,最好还是不要结婚。这是新的上天神圣的婚姻,为此你必须准备就绪去接受美丽和祝福,而最重要最重要的是去接受它根本的意义。

我希望你们明白霎哈嘉瑜伽强调婚姻,我们不相信禁欲主义,不相信逃避家庭生活。我们相信家庭生活是最重要的,我们要在地球上好好建立婚姻,我们要看到伟大的灵在这美丽的上天爱的巢穴里出生,我们要持之以恒,不逃避拥有十分好的婚姻生活。我希望你们所有人都会有十分好,十分快乐的婚姻生活。那些还未结婚的人,我希望你们也会有十分快乐的婚姻生活。

现在我已经结了婚…我想有三十六年了,今天我的婚姻,虽然已经过了那么多年,我仍然感到我是我丈夫的新娘,因为我们都是过这种生活很有智慧的人。当然生活有起伏,但我们最终仍感到婚姻生活是很不同的生活。他今天寄来很漂亮的信件,感谢你们对我那么仁慈亲切,也感谢你们对他那么仁慈亲切。

所以我们要有崇拜︰今天你以我古哈拉希什米(Gruha Lakshmi)的形相敬拜我。作为你内在的古哈拉希什米,那也是很基本的,敬拜我的古哈拉希什米形相,因为你们的古哈拉希什米都出问题。那是左脐轮,我希望这样对你会成就得较好,我们开始崇拜。

在这个简短崇拜后,我们会作女神火祭(devi havan),到目前为止,我们还未有做过火祭,这是很重要的。不管如何我们都要好好处理它。我们要念诵千个名号,这会是个好主意。

19:00

崇拜开始

印地语或马拉地语对话

19:38还有谁要结婚?你也结婚?这两个吧,你也来吧?请来吧。

20:07你怎能坐在这里?你能摊开些什么?你有拿一些东西来摊开吗? …这些都是很轻巧的东西,啊?很轻巧,你可以拉这个,我想这较好。现在我们不会坐在这里,所以你可以把这个全拉出来,为什么不把它在这里摊开?不,不,这还好,不,这可以,这样较好,把这个拉出来。

21:18这较好,对,现在所有人坐下。 (印度语/马拉地语)

21:48对,好吧,来吧,坐下。现在,还有谁在这里?她走了,你可以坐在这里,你可以移到这里,你要明白,只把这个与这里连接,看,她能移动它,她能移动它,明白吗?现在足够了,没问题。来这里坐,对吗?现在,你想要多一个?只把它放在…对,现在较好,好一点了,你把它像这样伸展,这个较好。 (印地语/马拉地语)

25:37这个很短—不太长,对吗?首先是格涅沙崇拜,告诉它的意义。 (印地语/马拉地语)。他们应知道它的意义。

26:23这是—我已经告诉他今天说出来。这就是我们曾经说过,很简短的描述基督。这是很短的描述。祂就是,祂的各个面向都很简短的被描述,再次很短,非常短。他会读出这几件事,并向你解释,在你为我清洗时。

26:49开始念诵格涅沙颂(Ganesha Atharva Sheersha)。

27:10 (瑜伽士︰我们现在在这里以主格涅沙之名敬拜主耶稣基督。祂理应是所有原理的精粹的总体,祂是总体—锡吕‧玛塔吉︰原理,一切原理—瑜伽士︰一切宇宙的原理—锡吕‧玛塔吉︰Tattwa(原理)

瑜伽士︰tattwam asi,即是一切宇宙原理的总体…祂理应是kartasi,kartasi的意思—锡吕‧玛塔吉︰作事者。

瑜伽士︰祂理应做所有的事情,是祂在做所有的事情…接着他说twameva kevalam dartasi,意思是祂是…

锡吕‧玛塔吉…支持。所以祂是支持…是祂带走所有问题。就是祂,祂吸走宇宙的所有问题…Brahma, Brahma。 Brahma是这位Brahma shakti,你要明白,这位pranava。 Pranava…以灵在你之内显现。祂以灵住在你内在,是真理,不是「祂说的真理」而是祂就是真理。

29:25门徒,门徒原理…祂存在于各个方位…祂是完整的文献…喜乐。 「你是我们内在无所不在全能的力量。」”Sat chit ananda dvitiyosi”意思是「没有人能与你成为Sat chit ananda(真理、注意力、喜乐)的能力相比。」…注意力。 Ananda是喜乐。而「没有人能与你相比。」…创造者…科学的知识…祂是完整的文献…喜乐。你是我们内在无所不能全能的力量…没有人能与你成为sat chit ananda的能耐相比。你是知识,你是科学的知识。

31:48毁灭…”Tish thati”意思是它留下︰「整个世界因为你而保持(stay),只要你在这里,我们就能保持这个世界。」(让他吧,让他吧,不是这样…坐下,坐下,坐下。)

32:23当你完全是,整个世界便被摧毁,那时候只有你在那里,你是旁观见证者…每个人都能经验你,没有…祂,透过祂,透过祂…水,祂是akasha…祂是天空,以太(ether)。所有元素…被祂指引。

33:34那里,你看,你的声音的四个阶段,你看,当他们— para, pashanti, madhyama。你看,你的声音有四个阶段,从这里开始…你看,声音从这里开始。这是para。声音从para开始。从这里开始。接着它走到pashanti,心脏只是跳动。但它是,pashanti意思是它只是静观。这里是madhyama。这是中央,意思是它没有观看也不是这东西。接着,在口里它变得有说服力。所以「所有声音的四个阶段都是由你主宰。」由你主宰。

Para pashanti madhyama

34:54不,gunas virtues nahi。 Gunas是心境,心境,心境,品质。你要明白,tamo guna和rajo guna(刺阇)和satya guna (完满) ︰祂是超越它们,祂是超越。对祂而言,没有罪孽。不管祂做什么都是神圣的…「你是超越你的身体。」…「你是超越时间。」…根轮…「你是三个力量。」三个力量。 Trigunatmika —意思是这三个力量︰摩诃拉希什米(Mahalakshmi),摩诃莎娃斯娃蒂(Mahasaraswati),摩诃迦利(Mahakali)…「降临于你」每时每刻…

36: 07祂是创造者,祂是持守者,祂也是保护者。是祂毁灭…Indra是诸神的神…祂是神的声音— Omkara…祂集合所有这些。

37:49 Gana意思是所有的…所有在左边的天空的存在体,都被称为ganas,明白吗?他们是—他们的领袖是左天使长米歇尔。祂甚至在他们之前,甚至比他们早出生,甚至比他们更高…你要明白,这就是阿尔发(Alpha)和欧米伽(Omega)︰就是祂是…祂是最先被创造的道(Word ),也是最后的道,祂超越最后被创造的道…。

39:25 Bindu给你救赎…你看生命能量,我不知道你能否看到?它看来像逗号— “anusvarah”是逗号。所以这就是你怎样—每一边都像小小的逗号,若你看到它们…

40:06看,完整的Omkara是︰首先是Ga-karah,是Ganapati,Ga “Ga-karah purva-rupam”︰先是,你要明白,你首先以格涅沙的形相,”purva-rupam” —格涅沙是在它之内,接着你以Omkara的形相…最后是当你变成逗号。

41:09声音是口诀,你要明白。透过口诀认识祂,你必须学习Ganesha-vidya(格涅沙的知识),是基督的知识。若你必须认识口诀,你必须透过知识知道整个科学是格涅沙的知识,或你可以称它为格涅沙的vidya(知识),意思是格涅沙的技巧。若你要知道口诀怎样成就事情,这是科学。科学被称为Ganesha-vidya,是祂的科学…祂,这就是为何祂被称为Ganaka,Ganaka-rishihi,这就是为何人们这样称呼祂,因为祂掌握它,祂掌握口诀的艺术,掌握声音。

42:12 Chandah,这是口诀— Gayatri是口诀之一,你要明白,它是在右边。 Chandah是…所有口诀的音乐,韵律,韵律,韵律,你要以某种韵律念诵口诀,祂就是节奏韵律。

43:06怎样去,怎样去…唤醒这个神祇。

 (瑜伽士︰”Aum Gam Ganapataye namah” —这是唤醒这个神祇的口诀。)

43:55你看,Ganesha vidya…一只牙,因为祂用另一只来书写。而祂有象鼻。是环状的,看,祂以环来控制你。若你行为不当,祂便把一个环围着你,把你拉回来…对,Ankusha是你运用它在大象上,去控制。在大象,Ankusha,但它是十分,它是指引的工具。

45:04保护…我的意思是,祂是很谦虚的动物,十分谦虚,对祂是只老鼠。对基督也是一样,驴子,它是谦虚的动物…红色的衣服…至少祂的轮穴我们要放红色,这就是为何…

47:00 (瑜伽士︰这就是祂怎样彰显,即使彰显为人类。)

See.看…好的瑜伽士,不是…不,不,「瑜伽士」即任何上教堂的人︰这些不是瑜伽士,看,瑜伽…瑜伽,你看,”evam dhyayati”即「借此你知道。」…只有瑜伽士,再次。

48:28向你鞠躬…因为祂是纯洁…湿婆神的,湿婆神是…你知道湿婆神,你知道。你就是那一位,你是在祝福的状态,你是在祝福状态。

49:27这只是简略的形相,这样并不了解祂,这样说只是开始,以令它…(印地语)。

50:36看,祂们是神明,你看,你们现在也是神了,因为你们拥有所有的力量。向…祈求,祈求毗湿奴创造力量,借此摧毁所有可怕的魔鬼,然后创造女神,这个故事比较动听。

(瑜伽士问这是否与「女神圣典」”Devi Mahatmyam”里是同一个故事。)

51:38你取得”Devi Bhagwat” —你拿到它?我希望你有读过它。好吧…你知道这个故事?好吧…接着谂诵口诀。

55:25 “Mahalakshmi Stotram”(印地语)Raul Bai特别重视礼仪能恰当的去做。我说脑袋先要妥当。若你持续一切都做得恰当,做这个,做这个…自我要先离去,不然又有什么用呢? …(印地语)

1:00:30这里面有一点酸奶酪? (印地语)。

1:09:07你已经很辛勤的工作…真的。你已经真的很辛勤的工作,你有,两个崇拜是太多了!

1:11:17你看raktagandha︰祂喜欢这样,喜欢用raktagandha来遮蔽身体,你看,我们取得的树,被称为raktagandha,像檀香树但是红色的。祂喜欢经常用它来遮蔽身体,这就是为何我也要遮蔽自己,遮蔽这部分—祂住在这里。 Raktagandha。 ”Rakta”意思是血,”gandha”是特别品种的檀香树,红色的,被擦过的,放在这里。

1:13:05这是典型的峇里人,或澳洲人?

1:14:56这里有那么多生命能量,其余我来做。她念诵,你已经念诵所有口诀,她念诵,现在她念完了。 (印地语)

1:16:13让我看谁拿到最好的!

1:17:01巴巴拉在哪里?来吧,来拍照片。让她拍一张,让我们现在看看,她会决定。你的照片也是依赖你的心理状态,很大程度受心理影响,拍完了?好吧?现在—愿神祝福你,他想不想?好吧,你可以走近一点,为我的双脚,来吧,你也要为我沐足。

1:19:17做完了?好吧。

1:19:56婚姻的圣洁,愿神祝福你们,给你圣洁婚姻的完整概念。

1:21:26让我们现在开始…你们全都要站起来,第一次来的人要走上前。若你第一次来,你要走上前,你也可以拿一张凳子或什么,或椅子。

Version 2

25:47 – 49:27

Ganesha Atharva Sheersha starts

Shri Mataji: Tell the meaning. [Hindi/Marathi] They should know the meaning. [Hindi/Marathi]

This is a – I have told him to today say it out. Now this is what we were saying, that Christ is described in short. This is very short description. And what He is, actually His all aspects have been described in short, again in short, very much in short. These few things he will be reading it and explaining it to you, while you just wash My feet. [To a Yogini] Now you organise.

[Ganesha Atharva Sheersha starts again.]

Sahaja Yogi : “Om, Namaste Ganapataye. Twameva Pratyaksham Tattwam asi.

Twamewa Kevalam Kartasi. Twamewa Kevalam Dhartasi. Twamewa Kevalam Hartasi.

Twamewa Sarvam Khalvidam Brahmasi. Twam Sakshat Atmasi Nityam.”

Sahaja Yogi : Now here, we worship the Lord Jesus in the name of Lord Ganesha. He is supposed to be in totality, the essence of all the principles. He is in totality –

Shri Mataji: principles, all the principles –

Sahaja Yogi: all the principles of the Universe –

Shri Mataji: Tattwa

Sahaja Yogi: “tattwam asi”. Means the totality of all the principles of the Universe. Then he is supposed to be the kartasi, kartasi means-

Shri Mataji : The Doer

Sahaja Yogi: he is supposed to do all the doings, it is he who does all the doings. Then he says “twameva kevalam dartasi” means he is the

Shri Mataji : Support.

Sahaja Yogi: he is the supporter of all the things in the Universe.

Shri Mataji : He is the support.

Sahaja Yogi: The he is the “Kevalam dhartasi” Ara ne?

Shri Mataji : He is the one who takes away all the problems. He’s the one. He’s the sucker of all the problems of the Universe.

Sahaja Yogi: Then it is said : “Twamewa Sarvam Khalvidam Brahmasi” means he is the totality of the Universe.

Shri Mataji : Brahma, Brahma. Brahma is this Brahma shakti, you see, this Pranava. Pranam, Pranam.

Sahaja Yogi: He himself is the all pervading Energy.

Sahaja Yogi: “Twam Sakshat Atmasi Nityam” He ‘s always

Shri Mataji : Present in you as the Spirit. He resides in you as Spirit.

Sahaja Yogi: He always says the truth.

Shri Mataji : He’s the truth. Not “He says the truth”, but He is the truth.

Sahaja Yogi: “Ritam Vachmi. Satyam Vachmi. Ava twam Mam.

Ava Vaktaram. Ava Shrotaram. Ava Dataram. Ava Dhataram.

Ava noo Chanam. Ava Shishyam. Ava Pash chat tat. Ava Puras tat. Avot tarat tat. Ava Dakshinat tat. Ava Chor Dhvat tat. Ava Dharat tat. Sarvato Mam Pahi Pahi Saman tat.”

Here he says, that he is supposed to be the doer as we say that means that he in… The hearing is done by him. The speaking is also done by him. He is in the shirsha, “shirsha” means

Shri Mataji : In the disciples, in the disciple principle.

Sahaja Yogi: Disciple principle is also the Lord Ganesha. In the principle of teacher also is the principle of Lord Jesus. He’s also in all the directions, East West North South.

Shri Mataji : He exists in all the directions.

Sahaja Yogi: Since he exists in all the directions, he is all pervading. Everywhere, on top, in the bottom, everywhere.

“Twam Vang mayas Twam Chin mayah. Twam ananda mayas Twam Brahma mayah.

Twam Sat chit ananda dvitiyosi. Twam Pratyaksham Brahmasi. Twam Gyana mayo Vigyana mayosi.

Sahaja Yogi: He says the entire

Shri Mataji : “Vang mayah” means literature. He is the complete literature.

Sahaja Yogi: He is the complete ananda; ananda means

Shri Mataji : Joy.

Sahaja Yogi: “Brahma mayas”

Shri Mataji : “You are the one who is the all-pervading Power within us.”

Sahaja Yogi: “Sat chit ananda dvitiyosi” means, if there is no other better happiness.

Shri Mataji : No. “Sat chit ananda dvitiyosi” means, nobody can compare you to your capacity to be Sat chit ananda.

Sahaja Yogi: Sat means truth, chit means

Shri Mataji : Attention. Ananda means joy. And Nobody can be compared with You.

Sahaja Yogi: “Twam Pratyaksham Brahmasi” you are in totality, existing Bhrama.

Shri Mataji : The Creator.

Sahaja Yogi: “Twam Gyana mayo Vigyana mayosi.” You are the knowledge

Shri Mataji : Science of knowledge.

Sahaja Yogi: You are the knowledge and you are the science of knowledge.

“Sarvam Jagadidam Twatto Jayate. Sarvam Jagadidam twat tas tish thati. Sarvam Jagadidam Twayi Laya me shyati. Sarvam Jagadidam Twayi Pratyeti.

Twam Bhoomi rapo nalo nilo Nabhah. Twam Chatvari Vak Padani.”

Sahaja Yogi: That means here he says, when the all world goes away

Shri Mataji : Destroyed

Sahaja Yogi: is destroyed, it is he who remains.

“Sarvam Jagadidam twat tas tish thati” When the all body

Shri Mataji : No. “Tish thati” means ‘it stays in it’. The whole world stays because of You. As long as You are there, the world will stay.

[About a dog?]Let him be, let him be. That’s not so very–. Sit down, sit down, sit down.

Sahaja Yogi: “Sarvam Jagadidam Twayi Laya me shyati.”

Shri Mataji: When You are completed, the whole world is destroyed, that time also, You are there. You are the witness.

Sahaja Yogi: “Twayi Pratyeti”

Shri Mataji : “Twayi Pratyeti” Everybody can only experience You and nothing else.

Sahaja Yogi: If you have any experience of the Divine it is because of him.

Shri Mataji : Him, through Him, through Him.

Sahaja Yogi: “Twam Bhoomi rapo nalo nilo Nabhah” He is the soil, he is

Shri Mataji : The water. He is the akasha. Nala means fire.

Sahaja Yogi: Nilo

Shri Mataji : He’s the sky, ether.

Sahaja Yogi: He is the fire.

Shri Mataji : All the elements.

Sahaja Yogi: “Twam Chatvari Vak Padani.”  These are also….

Shri Mataji : Guided by Him. There are, you see, four stages of your sound, you see, when they – para, pashanti, madhyama. You see, there are four stages of your sound that starts from here.

Sahaja Yogi: First one from the Nabhi. second one from here. Para, pashanti, madyama, and wakening, wakening here come the sound from here where you speak

Shri Mataji: You see, the sound starts from here [Shri Mataji shows her stomach]. This is para. Sound starts from para, from here it starts. [Shri Mataji shows her stomach]. Then it goes to pashanti, the heart just pulsate. But it is “pashanti”, means it is just watching. Here it is madhyama [Shri Mataji shows her throat]. It is the centre, means it doesn’t, neither watch nor this thing. And then, at the mouth part, becomes eloquent. So all these four stages of the sound are governed by You, by You.

Sahaja Yogi: “Twam Guna traya teetah. Twam Deha traya teetah. Twam Kala traya teetah. Twam Mooladhara sthitosi Nityam. Twam Shakti trayat makah. Twam Yogino Dhyayanti Nityam. Twam Brahma, Twam Vishnus, Twam Rudras, Twam Indras, Twam Agnis, Twam Vayus, Twam Suryas, Twam Chandramas. Twam Brahma bhur bhuvah Swarom.”

…He is beyond all the gunas, that means, beyond all the virtues.

Shri Mataji : No, no, “gunas virtues nahi” [Gunas are not virtues]. Gunas means moods, moods, moods; qualities. You see, “tamo guna and rajo guna and satya guna” He’s beyond them, He transcended. You see, for Him there’s nothing like sin, whatever He does is divine.

Sahaja Yogi: “Twam Deha traya teetah”

Shri Mataji : You are beyond Your body.

Sahaja Yogi: “Twam Kala traya teetah”

Shri Mataji : You are beyond time.

Sahaja Yogi: “Twam Mooladhara sthitosi Nityam.” Now Mooladhara means, the Mooladhara of the Universe.

Shri Mataji : Mooladhara Chakra.

Sahaja Yogi: Mooladhara Chakra of the Universe. There he resides.

Shri Mataji : resides.

Sahaja Yogi: “Twam Shakti trayat makah”

Shri Mataji : You are the three powers. Three powers. Trigunatmika – means all these three powers: Mahalakshmi, Mahasaraswati, Mahakali.

Sahaja Yogi: “Twam Yogino Dhyayanti Nityam” means Yogis, means all the saints of the Universe they always meditate

Shri Mataji : Upon You. All the time. ….

Sahaja Yogi: “Nityam” means everytime.

“Twam Brahma”, you are Brahma

Shri Mataji : He’s the Creator.

Sahaja Yogi: He is Vishnu.

Shri Mataji : He’s the Sustainer. He’s the Protector also.

Sahaja Yogi: He is Rudra.

Shri Mataji : He’s the one destroyer.

Sahaja Yogi: He is Indra.

Shri Mataji : Indra is the God of the Gods.

Sahaja Yogi : Agni he is the fire. He is the wind, he is the Sun, he is the Moon.

“bhur bhuvah Swarom”

Shri Mataji : He is the sound of God – Omkara.

Sahaja Yogi : “Ganadim Poorva much charya. Varna dim Tada nan taram. Anus varah Para tarah. Ardhendu lasitam, Tare na Ruddham. Etat tava Manuswa roopam.

Gakarah Poorva roopam. Akaro Madhyama roopam. Anuswarash chantya roopam.

Bindu rut tara roopam. Nada Sandha nam. Sanhita Sandhih. Saisha Ganesha Vidya.

Ganaka Rishihi. Nich rid Gayatri Chandah.Ganapatir Devata. Om Gam Ganapataye Namah.”

Sahaja Yogi :Here, how the Omkara has come out through him. And how every aspect of Omkara is he himself.

Shri Mataji : He’s the assemblage of all that.

Sahaja Yogi : “Ganadim Poorva much charya Varna dim Tada nan taram”

Shri Mataji: Gana means all the, all the celestial beings on the left-hand side are called as ganas, you see? They are – the leader of them is St. Michael. So He is even before them, He’s born even before them. He’s even higher than them.

Sahaja Yogi : “Varna dim Tada nan taram.” All the ganas are created after him.

Shri Mataji : You see, this is what is Alpha and Omega: that He is, He’s the first word that is created, and He is the last word, He’s above the last word that is created, “Varana”.

Sahaja Yogi : “Anus varah Para tarah” You see there is a stage after Realisation which is supposed to be

Shri Mataji : Above it

Sahaja Yogi : Above Sahasrara, is ardhenbindu sthiti, bindu sthiti and vale sthiti. So from bindu sthiti, all the sthitis, all the stages, from bindu sthiti onward, there are something like 14 stages above. All the stages are governed by him…

“Tare na Ruddham.”

Shri Mataji : The one who gives you salvation.

You see the vibrations – I don’t know if you can see them- it looks like a comma – “anusvarah” is commas. So that’s how You reside like little, little commas; if you can see them ….

See, the complete Omkara is: first is Ga-karah, is Ganapati, Ga. “Ga-karah purva-rupam”: the first is – you see, You take the form of Ganesha in the beginning, “purva-rupam” – Ganesha is in them. Then You take the form of Omkara. And the last is when You become just a comma.

Sahaja Yogi : … If you have to learn him from the sound, then Shri Ganesha vidya, then that knowledge, the knowledge of learning through the sound, is known as Shri Ganesha vidya.

Shri Mataji : Sound is mantras, you see. To know Him through the mantras, you have to learn the Ganesha-vidya, is the knowledge of Jesus. If you have to know the mantras, you have to know through the knowledge, that the whole science is called, is the knowledge of Ganesha. Or you can call the vidya of Ganesha, means the technique of Ganesha. And if you have to know how the mantras work out, this is the science. The science is called as Ganesha-vidya, is all His science.

Sahaja Yogi : …The one who masters this knowledge is Ganaka-rishihi

Shri Mataji : He, that’s why He’s called as Ganaka, Ganaka-rishihi, that’s why He’s called, because He’s the master of that. He’s the master of the art of mantras, the sounds.

Sahaja Yogi: “Nich rid Gayatri Chandah.”

Shri Mataji : Chandah. It’s a mantra – Gayatri is one of the mantras, you see. And it’s on the right-hand side. Chandah is … music of all the mantras. The rhythm, rhythm, rhythm [taala]. You see, you have to say mantras with a certain rhythm, and He’s the rhythm.

Sahaja Yogi : Of all the mantras. “Ganapatir Devata.” God himself is again Ganesha, that is the Lord Jesus. The Lord himself is again Shri Ganesha.

“Om Gam Ganapataye Namah.”

Shri Mataji : How to, how to awaken this deity.

Sahaja Yogi : For that the mantra has been given.  That mantra is like this, “Om Gam Ganapataye namah” this is the mantra for awakening this deity. Then there is a prayer for him. Subsequently these two stand out as a prayer for him, prayer for this God has been recited:

“Eka Dantaya Vidmahe.

Vakra Tundaya Dheemahi.

Tanno Dantih Prachodayat.

Ekadantam Chatur hastam

Pāsham ankush dhārinam”

How this God is, how does he behave?

Shri Mataji : You see, the Ganesha’s mantra.

Sahaja Yogi: His description has been made all here. He is having one…

Shri Mataji: He is having one tooth; because with the another one, He writes. And He’s got the trunk.

Sahaja Yogi : “Pasham ankush dharinam.” Pash?

Shri Mataji : Is one of the loops. See, He controls you with a loop. If you try to misbehave, then He puts a loop round you and pulls you back – pash-

Sahaja Yogi : Ankush is a kind of instrument….

Shri Mataji : Yes. Ankusha is that you use it on the elephant, to control. On the elephant. Ankusha. But it is a very – it’s a guiding instrument.

Sahaja Yogi : “Radam Cha Varadam Hastair” means he is offering you hand,

Shri Mataji : Protection.

Sahaja Yogi : “bi bhranam Mooshak dhvajam.” Mouse is his carrier…

Shri Mataji : I mean, something very humble animal, very humble, is mouse for Him. And for Christ also, the donkey, which is the humblest animal.

Sahaja Yogi : “Raktam Lambodaram Shoorpa karnakam. Rakta vasasam.” Means he wears red clothes, he likes to wear red clothes.

Shri Mataji : Red clothes.

Sahaja Yogi : “Rakta gandhanu liptangam.” It should be red on the forehead and on the body. Even on the body, he would like to put red safran the red one.

Shri Mataji : At least on this chakra, we should put red. [Shri Mataji shows the Agnya chakra]

Sahaja Yogi : “Rakta pushpaihi Supoojitam.” Means he likes the red flowers very much.

Shri Mataji : That’s why ….

Sahaja Yogi : That’s why you brought those red flowers for the puja…

“Bhaktanu Kampitam Devam” For the devotees, he has a tremendous compassion…

The compassion that flows from him is for the universal good.

“Aavir bhutam Cha Shristyadau. Prakritehe Purushat param.” He comes on the earth to give emancipation to the human beings, and that’s how He manifests, even as a human being.

Shri Mataji : See.

Sahaja Yogi : “Evam Dhya yati Yo Nityam. Sa Yogi Yoginam Varah.” So the one, the Yogi.

Shri Mataji : Good Yogi, not “a yogi”. No, no, “a yogi” means anybody who is going to church: that’s not a Yogi. See, a Yogi_

Sahaja Yogi : So the connexion by which you know the Divine is known as Yoga….

Shri Mataji : Yoga. You see, “evam dhyayati” means “by which you know”.

Sahaja Yogi : Such Yogi worships this Lord Ganesha or Lord Jesus in the fashion by meditation.

Shri Mataji : Only the Yogis, again.

Sahaja Yogi : They know by meditation, not by chanting mantras. “Namo Vratapataye. Namo Ganapataye. Namaha Pramatha Pataye. Namaste Astu Lambodaraya, Ekadantaya, Vighna Nashine, Shiva sutaye, Shri Varada moortaye Namah.” Here, such divine personality, I bown to you,

Shri Mataji : ‘Bow’ to You.

Sahaja Yogi : Always, in all purity, I bow to you.

Shri Mataji : Because He’s purity.

Sahaja Yogi : …You are the son of the Spirit “Shiva sutaye”.

Shri Mataji : No, of Shiva.

Sahaja Yogi : He is born out of Shiva

Shri Mataji : Shiva is the –

Sahaja Yogi : …Shiva is the Spirit of the Universe.

Shri Mataji : Yes. Sadashiva is God Almighty. You know Shiva, you know.

Sahaja Yogi: Shri Varada moortaye Namoh Namaha

Shri Mataji : You are the one, You are the statue of blessings. You are the statue of blessings.

Sahaja Yogi: “Bolo Shri Bhagavati Mataji, Shri Nirmala Devi ki Jai!”

Shri Mataji: You see, this is just the abridged form.

Sahaja Yogi : …There are only eight slokas, eight stanzas, very small.

Shri Mataji : So this is nothing to understand Him. But just this is said, is just in the beginning.

To make it …. Atharva Devi […] You have got this Book in English? No?

[Note: I notice at the end of the talk that Shri Mataji is a bit annoyed by the ego of the Indian Sahaja Yogi who chanted and explained Atharva Shirsha. :-))

In fact, the Yogi made a “mistake” between Sadashiva and Shiva when he said “Ganesha is the child of the Spirit”. He extrapolated because this is not what is written, literally. So Shri Mataji corrected him. Unfortunately, when Shri Mataji wanted to explain the difference between Sadashiva and Shiva, he did not let Her speak. It is for this reason that She added Sadashiva is God Alamighty as it is under this form that He is the Spirit of the Universe.]

(End of Version 2)