首先我們要知道，注意力就好像一幅完全純潔的畫布，然後人類存在的三種狀態(the three gunas)為它填上色彩。你們知道這三種狀態，一是過去，一是將來，一是現在。你過去對於事物或某情境的經驗，都儲存在記憶之中。例如，你看見黑色。由於所有與黑色相關連的事物都存在於你記憶之中，當你再看見黑色的時候，過去的記憶便呈現出來了。意思是說，你以注意力來觀看外界，因此你的注意力會被過去所看見黑色的經驗混入和著色，你的行為也會受到這注意力的左右。例如，現在有某東西被火燒掉，你們每個人都看得很清楚，那麼當你們下一次看見火時，第一個反應便是要萬分小心。其實事情不會再次發生，但由於你的注意力「知覺」到火的危險，你便會小心翼翼，同時警告他人。因為你的注意力由過去的記憶找出了這些映像，投射到畫布上。這是一張活的畫布。有時我們會想到一些將來的事情。例如，我們想起某個人，同時想，如果下次看見他，應和他說些甚麼話。當你真的遇見那人時，你的注意力便會像冒出肥皂泡般、顯現出想過關於那人的一切，於是你便向他說出預先想好了的話。這些都是儲存在你們內部的，無論是過去的還是將來的，都是通過注意力氣泡狀的過程。這要看你受它的牽引有多大，如果你受到牽引，那便叫做“Vritti”，但我不知道英語中我們被牽引到這意思叫做甚麼。
首先你們要學習駕駛，然後參加考試。試場上會放五塊大石，相距不過僅容一輛汽車通過的距離。考官要你繞過所有大石，這是有意為難的，為甚麼？因為他要你成為師傅。如果能看見那些幻相把你往下拉，那你便能駕御你的注意力了。你只要把那些幻相丟掉，拋棄那些幻相，你便會明白你是那永恆的注意力（the Eternal Attention），你是永恆的生命（Eternal Life）。唯一隔絕你的事物是無明，所謂無明便是你把幻相看成為真實。你盡管拋棄它，那只是幻相。當你這樣做時，你便會驚奇你的注意力可以昇得多高，那些過去令你驚慌害怕、或令你興奮莫名的無聊事物都會隱退，而你亦只會一笑置之。在這個狀態，你才能真正享受自己，因為你的注意力已在「真我」的喜樂當中。我說你們會在，而且已在那喜樂當中，要保持在那裡。
I think let us meditate today. Maybe this meditation will help us.
Please close your eyes.
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..all of you, these things, put it on the fire. Douglas [Fry], take these two, these things, and take them on the fire.
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…without paying attention here or there or without worrying. Worry and all these things are vikshepas, are all confusions, comes from confusion. You have known about me that I can sit for nine hours in one pose. I mean I have done that but I can do even more. So one has to develop a baithak, is a sitting posture, for some time. You must settle down in some position. Alright? Should try to do that, and whatever is required for that is to be done because that’s the only way you can do it. If you are walking, still your attention will be moving about. Anyway, if there’s a movement then the time, space comes into play. But if you can settle down, if you can have a place where you can sit down.
And that’s why the photograph helps. If you can see the photograph continuously, with a relaxed eyes, not all the time staring but relaxed eyes. You can close your eyes with respect [then] again you can open your eyes. This settling down of the position – you will be surprised how your attention will gradually rise, you will feel it.
Just now you are all in thoughtless awareness so go into meditation.
No, if you cannot sit you can take a seat, you see, down below. But as I said it, clothes should be a little lighter.
Alright, put your hands towards me.
You have to sit for about now, five minutes. I will not make you [sit] much. But I hope you will develop it next time your sitting.
Right hand on the heart I think will help. Right hand on the heart.
Now do it with your heart. Do – it – with – your – heart. Right hand on the heart. Think within that, “I am the Eternal Life, I am the Spirit”
Hold your breath. Leave it.
This time when you hold your breath you should know that I am the Mother of the Universe and the most powerful personality. And I am your Mother and you are all protected.
Hold your breath. Haa! Leave it. Good.
Hmmm. You are still children I must say. Don’t you know that I’m very powerful? Have I to tell you? Even the small children know that.
Alright? Relax. Let’s have some music and something. Now, any questions anywhere?
Yogi: I have a question. Could you explain the difference between joy and happiness?
Shri Mataji: Oh! Very simple you know. Joy doesn’t have a double thing like happiness and unhappiness. Joy is singular, absolute. It’s absolute. It is thoughtless. It’s fulfilment. Happiness is always shadowed by unhappiness, is the double coined stuff, double faces of a coin. Happiness will be followed by unhappiness, unhappiness by happiness. It’s a relative terminology. But joy is absolute, absolute. It’s beyond thought. It’s bliss.
Yogi: It’s more like contentment.
Shri Mataji: Contentment can be relative still. But it’s all that in one. Joy is where you do not ask anything anymore, you’re just there. It just emits then. Just emits. You don’t want anything, it just goes overflowing. It has nothing to do with your rationality, cannot be perceived through your rationality. It’s beyond, you just feel it.
Jeremy: Why do we dream? What makes us dream?
Shri Mataji: Dreams? Now dreams are you see: there are three stages of our consciousness in the normal way – not the fourth one (turiya) that, now, you are in the fourth one – but normally there are three stages. And the third stage is called as shushupti, where you are in a stage where you are deep asleep. That time you come in contact with the unconscious, Unconscious actually enters your attention, and you start getting the information from that. But a person who is not yet Realised is not yet quite awake in that state, in the sense that, whatever he records gets again clouded when he is coming back through those stages of…he comes through subconscious areas, lots of areas we can say, that he comes out of all the subconscious areas that he has got within him, and the supraconscious areas within him, and then he comes to conscious mind.
So lots of things cloud it, like covered it, so the interpretation or even the memory of the dream could be quite confused. But after Realisation you touch even deeper because you enter into unconscious. Not that The unconscious has to do anything, but you enter into the unconscious. Your attention goes into the attention and it records what it sees. The more you become Realised, the dream state will go away. For example I never dream. I mean actually I am in dream. I never dream in the sense that when I am so-called dreaming, I am actually there working it out. And I can verify it with others that I was that time with you. He says, “Yes, this happened.” So, you see, it’s a different state of mine. But actually this happens, you never have a dream, you are always in reality. But that’s a different thing. But at least whatever you record in that from the unconscious, at least should be your own. But mostly the dreams of the people are clouded, so the dream doesn’t have much meaning.
But with Sahaja Yoga you are enlightened so much that, in your dreams also, you see what unconscious has to say actually. Which is not confused, which is not clouded, which is absolutely with that you are awakened. I mean, for example, you might see Me, many a times, in dreams. And suggestions you will get from Me. I mean, I work through dreams only, through the unconscious. But some people always will say, “Oh, I have seen you somewhere. I have seen you many a times. I don’t know where I have seen. Were you in New York?” I said, “No.” “Then where did I see you?” They saw Me in their sleep, you see. But they cannot connect that it was in the sleep [that] they had seen Me. They are not Realised people but they have seen Me.
Sahaja Yogini: Can you give people Realisation in their sleep?
Shri Mataji: No. No. I cannot. I do not even want to give Realisation to people when they are not facing Me, either my photograph or Sahaja Yogis. That should not be. Because recognition is the only point in Sahaja Yoga. Modern Sahaja Yoga is only going to work out if you recognise Me. If you do not recognise Me, it’s not going to work out. This is the only way. This is the only key. Because so far you have never recognised. Only on recognition all your past things will be forgiven, everything will be done. But if you refuse to recognise Me or you go slow with it, your progress will be slow. Which I have told you frankly. Though it’s rather [an] embarrassing job, but I have to tell you. This is a fact.
So, in dream you cannot give Realisation. But in dream you might see the situation in which will be giving thing, how you should give. Your solutions will be suggested to you, how to approach a particular person. But you cannot give Realisation to anyone. They have to know that they have got Realisation through Mataji Nirmala Devi. As it is, when you give them Realisation, they have no value [for it]. If they don’t know Me, they will have no value.
But I would still suggest that one should not go on analysing the dreams too much.
Again, the same problem will start. Because I know Jung and all these people did that. But that was all right at that stage because they were not Realised people, or they were Realised of a very confused manner, in the sense that they were not sure of themselves. But you people do not go on bothering about dreams so much. The dreams are coming to you to give you a solution of a problem. The unconscious is helping you in dreams. For example, when I go to India most of them dream that Mother is coming. I mean it’s like, acts like, what you call, television?
Sahaja Yogi: I dreamt of you after the first time I came here.
Shri Mataji: After you came here? Not before? But there are people who have come to Me because they dreamt about Me also. Now, that’s a good thing. To dream about Me means you’ve gone very deep. You see, the verification comes in.
Sahaja Yogi: When I was here, you put your hand over on this eye, when I dreamt about it. It was as though something was pulled out of it, something like crystal. And this fell on the floor and this sort of grew legs and ran away. (laughter).
Shri Mataji: What happened? You felt?
Sahaja Yogi: I used to suffer from headaches and since that time I haven’t.
Shri Mataji: You see! That’s true. That’s true. I mean, actually it is done like that. I’ll tell you another example, a very concrete example of this.
One man who used to come to Sahaja Yoga and was very deep into it. One day he was- you see some of the Rajneesh’s disciples wanted to sort of harm him. So, they called him and they said, “We’ll offer you a paan (leaf)” – you see, that we eat and all that. And they really mesmerised him and gave him a paan. He ate the paan and all that. That was after the programme, say about 10.30 or so and he went into his subconscious areas. But he was coming to consciousness little bit.
And then they took him in the taxi and beat him. But they could not beat, you see? He could see that they used to come and beat him and their hands were held by somebody. He could not feel the beating on him at all. And he used to come to consciousness, again unconscious, and then he became absolutely conscious, you see.
He saw them beating him and they said they were getting the pain as if beaten but he was never beaten up. And then they left him in one place. And they took out his chain, a gold chain, and he had one ring of a real ruby in his fingers, they took out all that, and they left him in one place somewhere.
And then he walked all the way from there to his house. So, I saw all this happening to him and that I was trying to slap, bang these people and all that. I saw all that, I was doing it, you see. So, early in the morning I got up at six o’clock and I telephoned to his house and I said that, “How is he now? " His wife said, “He came very late. I mean he came really in the morning time about five o’clock. And now he’s sleeping.” I said, “Let him sleep. He has had a very bad time last night and he suffered a lot and these Rajneesh people have troubled him a lot,” I told her.
She was quite surprised, you see. She didn’t know all these things! When he got up she asked, “Where did you go?” And he told all the story about it. Then he telephoned to Me and he said, “Mother, you were there to save Me!” I said, “All right.” I told him, but normally I don’t tell you, you see, but that day, I just wanted to find out.
Then he said that, “I’ve lost my ring that was given to me by my father and I really feel sad about it.” So, I said, “All right you will find it. Both the things you are going to get it.” And when he was getting down from the staircase, he found a red kind of a bundle lying there. And his wife said, “What is this red bundle lying here for?” So, he picked it up. Inside was the ring and inside was his chain. Then he immediately telephoned to Me, “Mother I have found both the things, how did you manage?” You see it can be done.
So, all that was done for them because, you see, one can work it out. It can happen like that. But you must know that everything is done through the power of Brahma, that’s the glow of Adi Shakti. It’s all done through that. The rest is all myth! If you are not frightened of the myth, and if you do not recognise the myth, you are above it! But you still recognise it. This is the problem.
Sahaja Yogi: If you are a scientist say, are you saying that you shouldn’t continue scientific work?
Shri Mataji: No, no, no. If you are a scientist then, after Realisation, what you should do is to bring science and Realisation together. You can explain science and Realisation together. You have to explain Realisation through scientific method. This should be your effort, a new direction, because you have found out that you are Realised, you have found out that there is All-pervading Power, now, if you can put it in the scientific language you can talk to them. So that knowledge is not wasted. Supposing you are a geologist, you can explain many things of geology which you have not explained so far, through Realisation. So you give actually the science it’s fulfilment itself! There are so many questions they cannot answer.
Every thing, politics, everything – why it has failed, what has happened, what is the reason – everything can be explained through science of Sahaja Yoga. Everything! why it works out, why it doesn’t work out, what’s the thing, what is the failure is – everything can be explained. Human behaviour, everything. So use your knowledge to enlighten the knowledge which is covered with ignorance.
For example, see now, you have developed films, cinemas, this, that – use it for Sahaja Yoga. How can you use it for Sahaja Yoga you should try to find out ways and methods. Supposing you are a dramatist: use that drama. Make a drama on Sahaja Yoga. Put your mind to that and you can do it.
For example, supposing somebody is doing a course in journalism, then he should use his journalism for to propagate Sahaja Yoga.
You should try to find out in geology also, or in any subject whatsoever: the light of Sahaja Yoga which is being missed so far by the scientists, by the geologists, by the psychiatrists, by everyone, because it’s all a science which is secluded, which is in darkness, which has no connection with the whole.
Now you see your fire is here alright? Now, when I put my hand there, what happens is this fire is enlightened. This power sucks in from you, or any one of you who are Realised-souls, whatever is within you which can be burnt away by fire, and it burns it off. This fire you have analysed in ignorance but now you are enlightened. I gave realisation in India to some scientists who were working on the agriculture. They started using vibrations for agriculture and they were surprised that they could produce ten times more yield. I mean, you can see the difference between the types of things that are being produced and they are doing tremendous work on that. They’ll be publishing papers and things and they are doing that.
You can see also how vibrations work on say a nucleus of an atom. They will be acted through mesotrons (an elementary particle responsible for the forces in the atomic nucleus). If you see that, mesotrons will immediately react to it because they are arbitrary and you will be amazed you can handle them and manoeuvre them through your vibrations, if you see them under microscope. If you want to go into it you can go into it, because first of all you have to convince these horrible people what else could be, and give up everything else and just accept it, be within it. We are curing people without any science with us. We are curing mad people without any science. After all, everything is for the betterment of human beings. We are improving food problem. We are improving even material problem, I mean, Lakshmi tattwa is improved in them. All these things can be done. And scientists can show that science taken to extreme can take [us] to destruction, which is not related to the whole.
If you move in one direction, a linear movement, it just coils back and comes back to you. But if you are related to the whole then you know how to balance it, otherwise the nose starts growing or the ears start [growing] – it’s malignant. The growth of science, the modern science, is malignant. Even on Earth, if part of Earth starts growing, for example, on one side, the whole balance and equilibrium will be gone of the Earth, isn’t it! I mean if you see The Nature in its real completeness then you will see there’s such a balance existing. Science just moves like a blind horse in one direction. What is the use? Then you go to atom and from atom you go to atomic energy and from there to the destruction part.
But if you had kept to the truth and to the complete, then you would not have gone that far. Alright, it’s useful for us, use it. Analysis destroys you, destroys all our character, everything. If you start analysing you, yourself, you’ll be destroyed. Take yourself as a whole. There are people I have known who analyse me also. Such silly fools I have seen. Haa, there are. It’s so fantastic, the way human beings go about with there small little brain! Anything they cannot explain in Sahaja Yoga. When you have the higher science to discover, forget the lower sciences. I mean, when you were a frog, you were only worried about the well where you lived but now today you are a human being, you are worried about other things. Now, if you become a super-human being, you should be worried about higher sciences.
Now what have you achieved through science we can achieve in a second through Sahaja Yoga. Your material welfare can be, in a second we can improve it. If you get your Realisation, materially you will be better off.
Most of the people they declare as coma and dead or lunatic and gone cases…they have not been able to cure any lunatic whatsoever. Once he goes to the lunatic asylum he just comes [out] as a corpse. He never comes back as a sane person. What your science has achieved so far? And in which way? Take to anything: political problems, anything. You try to have political, say democracy – you have created demonocracy. You wanted to have communism – it is nothing but killing everyone. Everything is a topsy turvy.
Hello! How are you? Come here you come here! You’re daddy has come?
Shri Mataji: Where is he?
Child: In there.
Shri Mataji: Oh, I see, I see. Sit down, sit down, sit down. Good!
Now any other question?
Should we have some music?
Yogi: Mother, what is the true meaning of your name ‘Shri Bhagawati’? I have seen several different translations of the name entirely different to each other.
Shri Mataji: You see, ‘Bh’ ‘ga’: “Bhaga” means six things all together. They are the six attributes of God and Bhagawati is the power of God, that’s why She’s called that. Six basic attributes of God. First is innocence, second is creativity, third is…fatherliness, you can say, but is the one which nourishes. You see if you put the gardener and the Mother Earth together then what is the quality of them, is nourishment to grow, looking after, called as ‘palanhaar’. In English must be a word somewhere. The ‘Patron’? But ‘patron’ doesn’t mean all that, isn’t it.
Shri Mataji: Husbandry? ‘Husbandry’ is a funny word! (laughter)
Yogi: ‘Paternal’ Mother. ‘Paternal’
Shri Mataji: But it is also maternal, you see.
Shri Mataji: Guardian is only in control. You see all these things put together is ‘palanhaar’.
Shri Mataji: Sustenance is also there. But the kindness, the control, the looking after, the weeding out. All the beauties of that and the enjoyment of seeing your creation. The growth. The One who makes our growth possible. Then He is Almighty. Almighty. Nobody is more powerful than Him. He’s the most powerful. And He encompasses everything. He’s All-pervading and He knows everything – Sarvarupa. He knows everything, omniscient. This is ‘Bhaga’. And Bhagawati is the power of God. Without Bhagawati, God has no meaning. It’s like moon and moonlight, it’s like sun and sunlight. You cannot differentiate. They are just one and the same.
Yogi: Is Bhagawati Adi Shakti then?
Shri Mataji: Adi Shakti is the same as Bhagawati. She’s called by many names. One of them is Nirmala also.