TV Interview, Los Angeles, USA, 1983 Interviewer: Joining me right now is Shri Mataji and She is known throughout the world as a saint. And that’s the first time that I have been able to meet a saint. And you’re also a faith healer or psychic healer, I guess some people call you. But when asked in a recent interview as to whether or not you were a saint or considered yourself to be a saint, you had a very unusual answer. Are you? Shri Mataji: Actually, you cannot certify yourself isn’t it as anything? The quality of a saint is that he can make other saints. If he can make others saints, then he’s a saint. Otherwise, it’s just self-certification. Interviewer: Can you make other people saints? Shri Mataji: I think so, yes. Interviewer: How would you define a centre? What would another person become that would make him a saint? Shri Mataji: The person who becomes a saint develops a new awareness as a result of a living process of evolution that he becomes the Spirit as described by Christ that: “You are to be born again”. And in that, the awareness becomes: it’s actualization. It’s not just mental projection but actualization, that you become a person who is Collectively Conscious. Interviewer: You mentioned Christ and yet you are from an Eastern country being from India. Do you believe in Jesus Christ? Shri Mataji: Of course, of course! He plays a very big role in your evolution. He is the Read More …