You have To Find Your Self

Porchester Hall, London (England)


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Public Program, Porchester Hall, London (UK), 16 November 1987.

I bow to all the seekers of Truth.

When we are seeking the Truth we have to know we have to be honest about it. Because it is benevolent for us, not for others. We are seeking the Truth for ourselves, not for others.

The another thing we have to remember, very humbly, that truth is what it is. We cannot change it, we cannot organise it, we cannot manoeuvre it. It is what has been and will be.

And what is the Truth? The truth is that you are the Spirit. You are not this body, you are not this mind, you are not this ego, and you are not this conditioning. You are the Spirit. But so far you have been a human being. But to be human being itself is a very great thing. Is the greatest thing to be a human being.
Perhaps we have not realised the value of our life because we do not know what we are. The way we waste our time, waste our energies, waste our attention on things, which are senseless, because we still have to understand the greatness of our being. Human beings are made with such care, so beautifully, such delicate working of the Divine from amoeba to this stage passing through various stages, such a beautiful thing has been created as a human being.

But first we must have this attention to our Self that there must be something. It cannot be a purposelessly [WAY or DOING], it cannot be something just a chance. Is a wrong idea to play with. If the gravitation force of the Earth or anyone of the galaxies changes, then be disaster, absolute disaster.

So many things in the cosmos, if you study, the coefficients that works out, the different balancing and the different weights and the movements of the different bodies show us that there must be some purpose. And they do not trouble us; it’s all as if made for the stage for human beings. That the human beings have to come on the stage and all the preparation is made for the great drama. I think it’s high time that great scientists should look at it and start wondering why is it the way it is made. Why we are so much looked after. The whole cosmos seems to be within ourselves as if we have buttons, which move the cosmos, which control the cosmos. Everything is going on so smoothly otherwise, except when we do not try to understand ourselves.

It has been said practically in all the Scriptures that you have to seek your Self; you have to find your Self. Though I think many of this Scriptures have been little bit changed and have been used for certain purposes, still they could not get over this point that you have to become the Self, you have to be born again.

But that is not an artificial thing. We are human beings not artificially made. We are made really by some sort of a living force from amoeba. We are not just made with some sort of a thinking or a mental projection. It is not a mental projection by which we have been human beings, it is something spontaneously happening, a living force within us, which has brought us to this stage – with a purpose, with a meaning.

And now at this stage we are free to do what we like. Many people ask Me, “What was the need to give this freedom to human beings?” It was very necessary. If you have to have the ultimate freedom you must know how to deal with it. You have to understand. Of course, human beings have to make mistakes. To err is human. And we have to understand that this trial – error and trial and error business – has made us understand, also those who have not understood must understand, that there must be a wiser or surer way to achieve that goal of Self-Realisation, of Self-knowledge.

Self-knowledge we do not have, we must admit very humbly, we have had no system by which we could know ourselves. But think of a computer that is a human being is. As soon as you see Me you know I am there. You don’t have to go for programming, you don’t have to consult anything, you don’t have to use any kind of computer or some sort of a complicated machinery, automatically, spontaneously in a split of a second you know that I’m standing before you and talking to you. Such a computer we cannot create. But the Divine has created such a great computer and that is the human being. And this human being is the only one who is going to achieve that higher state, which we call as the spiritual state of the Self.

Because in the science they deal with the tree, I should say, the outside, but they cannot go into the roots. To go into the roots you have to become a subtler being. Unless and until you become a subtler being you cannot go into your roots to find out what are your roots are. And that is what is Self-Realisation. When you become subtler then only you can go into your being and can find out what actually you are. Also to look after a tree, which has not know its roots, is a very difficult thing. What happens is that when you do not know your roots and you start growing, and growing, and growing you go very deep down into that where you find that you have lost your way. Actually you are not going deeper. You are spreading outside more and more. And then once you start going to extremes because of your freedom you lose your way.

That’s how today everybody is saying, “A shock is going to come”. You are all going to face a shock. This is going to happen, that is going to happen. But actually it is absolutely in your hands because the whole of the cosmos is within you. The cosmos is working under your control complete. It is absolutely looking after you. Every element is looking after you to preserve you, to guide you, to take you to the right thinking.

But in your freedom you have to achieve that. This is a very big condition and there where we fail to understand. Even there are many who say, “There is nothing like Divine” and, “There is nothing like God.” In Russia I’ve been and I’ve been to China and all the communist countries and they are in a way partially justify it. Because what they found, those people who talk of God, those who say that, “We believe in God” and those who say that, “We believe in religion”, can be irreligious. Anybody who can call himself a Christian, Hindu, Muslim, say, Farsi, anything, is capable of any sin. Whatever he wants to do he can do it. Nobody can say that, “Because he was a Christian he could not do it”. So the whole concept of religion becomes a mental projection again an artificial thing. But if a person is a Self-realised person he goes beyond that, beyond temptations, beyond any kind of domination of any habits. He becomes a very strong person, very powerful person and extremely compassionate. His compassion is active. Is not a compassion that, “I’ll form a charitable institution, which lends money to people”, is not like that. The being itself emits compassion and this compassion acts, acts and works out. For example you become like a light which gives light to people and to yourself. You know others and you know yourself. That is the light of the Truth and unless and until that happens one should not say that, “I’m a Self-realised soul” or, “I am a twice born” – is artificial.

So what you have to understand that we are living in a relative world. We talk relatively. We have to be in the absolute world, where the Truth is absolute. There now before you I’m standing, you know very well that I’m wearing a sari, which is white. But it’s a relative still because somebody will say, “Oh, maybe it’s white”. Somebody will say, “It’s of white”, somebody will say like that. Still you know something, but to know it absolutely, meticulously the right thing, you have to be the Spirit. But what you know is much more than these eyes can see or this nose can smell. Is much more, much more explicit, much more clear cut. Like a person who is suffering, say, from some disease. A child is suffering from some disease and they don’t know what the disease is. So they have to go many various kinds of tests and for that the gentlemen, the father, or the mother, they have to pay a lot of money. They go on finding about the child, what’s wrong, what’s wrong, what’s wrong. They cannot find it, what’s wrong with the child. And they are so upset about it and within three days a child dies and still the diagnoses is not coming. Is a very common thing. But when you are a Self-realised soul you can know what’s wrong with the child, exactly you can put down your finger on the problem that he has.

Now how does it happen? Here is already told you about the charkas that we have, the centres within us. These are the centres, which on one side control the cosmos, on the other side control us, give knowledge and on the other side they give us the knowledge about others. These centres are within us.

Now when I’m telling you all this you have to have an open mind of a scientist. We shouldn’t just deny it because in your concept it doesn’t fitting. But like a scientist please see to it that if it is proved you have to accept that this is so. Now these charkas are within you, these centres are within you, and these centres communicate to you through your fingertips what’s the matter with a child. You can feel it on your fingertips, now five, six, and seven centres, right side, seven centres. (Shri Mataji points to the chakra projections on Her left and right palms.) The right side has got the seven centres, if they are decoded properly and if you know what is the decoding is, putting the hand towards a child, for a Realised soul it is very easy to see where is the problem. And as soon as he finds a problem and he knows how to cure it he can cure people without going to doctors.

Sahaja Yoga has cured, I must say, I don’t want to claim it because I don’t want to open a hospital. We are here to create doctors and not patients. So even some patients who have come to us have become doctors today in a way that they diagnose it on their fingertips. As Mohammed Sahib has clearly said that, “At the time of your resurrection your hands will speak”. But still nobody wants to know about it, that’s called as a resurrection time, as [SOUNDS LIKE – Kayama], nobody wants to talk about it. “Your hands will speak and will give evidence and witness against you”, clearly He has said it, I must say, He’d done such a lot of work on the Self-knowledge; as Christ has also said so many things.

But people don’t want to look at that side. Like to say that, “We must suffer” itself is a nonsense, I think, how can you. Any God who is a compassionate Father would like His children to suffer to meet Him? I mean, it doesn’t going to logic at all. But people accept this funny concept of sufferings. What about Christ? He suffered for us, isn’t it? Isn’t it that He suffered for us? If so, is has He left something for us to be done, to be completed more than He has suffered? He has suffered for us and He has done the job fully. We don’t have to do any more about it. He carried the cross. People make Him look like a TB patient, even worse than that, just bones and the skins. It’s very surprising, how can you conceive Christ like that?! Anyone of the people who say they are very healthy people, let them carry the cross and we’ll see. It is so contradictory about Christ, there’s surprisingly that He should say that you have to suffer.

Same about Jews. I just don’t understand why should they say that you have to suffer if their God is kind? Same about all other organised; all these organised or perverted people who say that you have to suffer. Suddenly people become vegetarians, suddenly they become fasting. In India though we have to fast in any case because of lack of food, but they have fasting days. There are some people who fast at least five days in a week. They fasting. What is the need to fast? If you ask for fasting you’ll have to fast all your life. That’s what God gives you, “You fast now, you want to fast? All right, have it fasting.” We are asking for trouble. You want to be miserable? All right, be miserable. You want to be unhappy? All right, be unhappy.

You find people coming out of congregations, which are supposed to be very religious so miserable looking. How can it be? It has to be joy, it has to be happiness. Just think of it, how can we ever believe such things what we have believed for ages, ages, ages, and it cannot go out of our heads, that we have to suffer. How long, how many years, how many lives? Nothing is written anywhere. You better go on suffering and make others suffer also with it. If some person is like that in your family you’d like to run away with that boredom, because he’s suffering for nothing at all and (Shri Mataji laughs) he don’t understand why is he suffering. So you want to run away from such a person. And all this kind of ideas we have accepted for ages now. And that has led us to a big confusion about God.

Then we take to things which give us joy. Actually they are not, they are just flippant pleasures. We cannot enjoy anything in life, really we cannot. We can see the way people are now going on for such sensational things. The reason is there’s no joy. The sensitivity to joy is so reduced that I sometimes fear with all that they are doing they so fed up, that they may have to put electrodes in the limbic area to get the joy instead. They have become so very (Shri Mataji smiles) so very insensitive to anything, they’ll not laugh, they’ll not smile, they are so full of closed hearts and frightened things, whatever they said about human beings.

Now first thing you have to know – you don’t have to suffer at all. Secondly, you don’t have to judge yourself. Let your Kundalini rise and judge you. You don’t start judging yourself and condemning yourself.

And the another fashion, which is very common, is to feel guilty. From the very beginning you start, “I am afraid”. What are you afraid of? You have to have all the courage, all the blessings, and all the confidence. You are a human being and this is the message I want to tell you that you are a human being and you have to be the Spirit. And once you are the Spirit you’ll be surprised the blessings will be showering upon you. In these modern times should talk about these things is out of date. But it is predicted that this will be said and this will be done. For us it is important first of all to know our own glory, our own truths, and about how we are built and how others are built. Once you know that first of all the peace within is established. Unless and until there is peace within what do you talk of this peace organisation and Peace Nobel Prise? I’ve seen the people who have gotten Nobel Prises are the most hot-headed so much that you have to talk to them with a barge pole in between. Any time they are up to jump on you, you cannot challenge them; even talking to them is a difficult situation. So how are they going to have this peace foundation when they are themselves so shaking?

Then you have other things talking about – the love, the love. Full of lust and greed. They love your purse, not you. When you talk of love, love is a thing that’s detached. Like the sap in the tree rises, goes to all the leaves, all the trunk, all the flowers, all the fruits and comes back, is not attached. If it’s get attached to one fruit the tree will die and the fruit will die too. So this Pure Love or the Divine Love is detached, that’s why it acts, it works. A person who is a Realised soul is such a pure personality that even a glance of such a person can do lots of things. Even a thought of such a person in the attention can do so many things, bring about so many changes.

So this is the time of our transformation. We have to become a higher personality; the transformation has to take place. At the time of Easter we give people eggs. Perhaps people do not know why do we give them eggs at the time of Easter. But about Christ is written in our Scriptures that He was an egg to begin with. Of course, He was much more before that, but to begin with He was the God of innocence. But then He came as an egg. And then He was divided into two halves. The one half, which incarnated, and which transformed this Earth.

So the resurrection is the transformation. Like an egg, if we are bound by our conditioning and by our ego, we break through that shell and become a bird, which is really a free bird. Only thing, the bird has to know how to fly. Now this is, again I’m saying is the living process of the living nature, of the living Power of Love. It is not something artificial. In Sahaja Yoga, I must have spoken in this hall I don’t know how many times might before and again today there’s a chance to speak to you.

What I have to say, that it is important the becoming. Is not important: you cannot become a member of Sahaj Yog, you cannot pay membership, you cannot pay for your Realisation. How can you pay? How much do we pay to the Mother Earth to sprout the seed, does She understand? Because She has the power She sprouts the seed. If you give Her money or read something before Her, it makes no difference. But once you get your Realisation you start understanding how many powers you have. And the greatest power is of compassion and detached love.

These seven chakras are within us, which are to be enlightened by the awakening of the Kundalini about which Dr. Spiro has already told you. Now in this short time I cannot cover up the whole subject. I must have given at least more than thousand lectures in English language. But I would request you one thing that forget about what you have learned so far. About your conditionings because if you had achieved anything out of that I was not necessary. Now you have to see with a clean slate, as they say, what you can achieve in this lifetime, which is the most important thing, is to be achieved.

Of course, where’s a lot of things that should really make you more tempting about it. Firstly, that you get rid of all your illnesses. Most of the illnesses can be cured – if they are at an early stage – by Sahaja Yoga. Most of the mental illnesses can be cured with Sahaja Yoga. Your material problems can be solved by Sahaja Yoga. Your spiritual problems like going to wrong gurus and wrong people whatever you have accumulated within you can be corrected. But the highest of all that you become sensitive to joy. Then you start seeing joy in everything. You don’t have to think that, “Oh, this is the thing which is marvellous”. No. It just happens, you see it is. Just you enjoy without thinking about it.

You become a peaceful personality. You become a dynamic personality. Your are not spade by other veils of things, like some fashion coming up, then some sort of a nonsensical idea coming up, then some medicine coming up and you treating yourself and getting to trouble. You just rise above all the these things at a higher level and you start see everything as a witness. You become the witness of all the jokes that are going on and you just watch it and you think, “What’s all this? Is just a play”. Many people have said that, “Mother, You always laugh so much and You have always smiling face, so the people are not going to take You seriously”. I said, “I don’t want them to be serious”. There’s not going to be any seriousness needed. What are you serious about? You should be happy. It’s fun. We have to be happy people. We have to be happy. Most people who think, they are very guilty, should punish themselves by saying, “You are not guilty, you are not guilty” 108 times. That’s what we have in Sahaja Yoga. Is just the myth. All these are myths; we are working with myths and making our lives miserable, which is meant to be joy, happiness and all the overflowing blessings of the Divine.

Whatever I’m telling you about we have within ourselves all the great powers hidden of our brain, of our liver, of our heart, – they are to be enlightened. And then in the light you see everything. But as in this room you have so many lights you have to just push in one button and the whole thing comes out. In the same way it happens. But if I start telling you about the history of electricity in the dark and all about how it came here and what all happened, you’d be just fed up with it. So what we are doing is to tell you that let us put on the button first, you better have your light and see in that light if it is true or not. If it is true you have to understand and accept it honestly. You have to be honest to yourself that is the main point I’m trying to tell you. We are not to play about with ourselves and play about with our conditionings. We have to be honest and to get to our properties that are within ourselves. I’m not here to oblige you at all, there’s no obligation. Is just like a catalyst, I would say, and you become the catalyst oneself once you get your Realisation. And you can do all that I can do, it’s very easy and very simple.

May God bless you all.

(Aside) Now, should we have questions or what?

I find most of you were just ready for getting Self-Realisation. Not only that, but I think you all capable of that. But still there must be some people who must be want to ask questions. I would only request – don’t be aggressive with Me, there’s no need. I’ve not come here for votes, nor for any money, nor for anything. I’ve just come here to give you your own keys. Out of Love that I am. So please try to understand Me. I’m not here to take, I mean, anything from you. Just to show you what you are and you’ll be happy to know that you are something great.

So may God bless you, I would like you to ask Me questions related to Self-Realisation and not to waste the time of so many who look so anxious to have their Self-Realisation. Those who do not want to do any meditation after this, which will take hardly ten minutes for you to get your Realisation, because the journey is three to four feet only – from here to here. (Shri Mataji shows the distance from Mooladhara to Sahastrara Chakra with Her hand.) That’s all.

So, I would just say, that you will all get your Realisation in no time. Should get your Realisation, but do not try to be uncivil. If you do not want to have it, you should leave the hall and leave others in peace. That would be very kind of us. And not to see and watch, we don’t need such people here. Those who want to have Realisation can sit down or others have freedom to go, but not freedom to sit here. So I would request you to be kind and civil to others who want to receive their Realisation.

Any questions, please.


What’s it?

A Sahaja Yogi: Mother, he said that Dr. Spiro couldn’t complete his talk about how the germinating principle works. Could You say something to finish of what he said?

Shri Mataji: Generating principle?

The Sahaja Yogi: Germinating.

Shri Mataji: You see, it is, I would say, it is spontaneous. Now that should explain a little bit how does a seed germinate. You have the seed and you put it in the Mother Earth, all right? And it germinates because it’s all built in it, this is all built in it, all this is built in it. And in the triangular bone you have got this Kundalini, which is placed within you in 3,5 coils of an energy, which is a residual energy. Which is actually the power of your pure desire. Because the desire that we have otherwise, all the desires, are not pure. What’s why they are not satiable in general. We get one thing, we want to have another. We get the another thing, you want to have the third thing.

So this is the power of pure desire. And this pure desire is described in the Bible as Holy Ghost, in the Koran as [SOUNDS LIKE – Asas] and in the Indian Scriptures as Adi Shakti, as the Primordial Mother. So She is the power of God as called as the Primordial Mother. Now this Primordial Mother is settled in our triangular bone while the Spirit which is the reflection of God Almighty is in our heart. But the seat of the heart is on top of your head – here – on the fontanel bone area, which is called as Brahmarandra in Sanskrit language. And also when we talk of baptism we try to bless there, but it’s artificial. Real baptism is when this Kundalini, which is the Holy Ghost or the Adi Shakti, the reflection of that, rises within you piercing through these centres, piercing through the fontanel bone area and actualises the experience of this personal experience and gives you a cool breeze coming out of your head. Actually the cool breeze coming out of your head, you feel it, and then you feel it everywhere, the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost. And that is the subtle of the subtlest, which is the syntheses of all the powers, which works everything out.

Like you can say, in the sulfur dioxide we have in the molecule of the sulfur dioxide we find that there is pulsation of the vibrations. Who does what? We say electromagnetic. But the electromagnetic is one part of the same power. So this power we can broadly divide into three things. In the first power what we call as the power by which we desire. The second power by which we act and the third power by which we ascend. All the synthesis of all these powers, all these powers are in this Kundalini which meets the Spirit because the seat of the Spirit, as they call the Pitha, is on top of your head and that’s how the whole attention you can see like a sari it is supposing the attention is spread here and the Kundalini rises, rises like that (Shri Mataji puts Her finger under the sari on Her chest and erects it like a tent pole), pierces through this at and the whole of this attention becomes enlightened. That’s how your attention becomes enlightened. This is in short I’m telling you. But as I told you we have got My lectures on all detailed way how it works out, it’s quite a detailed thing. But in the first lecture it will be quite boring for you. So I think I better tell you this much, that it’s a spontaneous happening and can happen to all of you.


The Sahaja Yogi: Do the first stages in Sahaja Yoga consist of meditation and how they beneficial physiological changes?

Shri Mataji: No, it is, you see, we do not understand the meaning of meditation actually. You are not to meditate, but you are in meditation in Sahaja Yoga. You become meditative by temperament. Now, I would suggest like this that in the beginning why I said you have to meditate, because I would like to tell you actually that word is not so suitable, but I said that you have to little bit cooperate with Me how to help your Kundalini to rise. That’s the process we are going to have in a very simple words. But I said meditate because that’s all could make the smaller way of saying things. But actually in Sahaja Yoga the practice of Sahaja Yoga is very different from any kind of meditation, of concentration or anything. There are very simple ways by which you have to correct your left or right side and to be in the centre. And then when you are in the centre the growth take place. Is very simple and luckily we are going to have next Thursday a very good workshop where they will tell you all the details how it has to be done. And they’ll solve all your questions and all your problems there. And lots of people are going to be in that place where you’ll find solutions to all these questions you ask. Thursday they are going to have a very good workshop.


Shri Mataji: [YES or FIRST], sickness can be cured if you become Self-realised. Actually you don’t go to doctors then anymore, you become a doctor yourself. So the physical sufferings can be, this [NOT AUDIBLE – way ?]. Now the collective suffering comes by the stupidity of human beings, by the ego of human beings, of wrong ideas, you see. Like a Hindu fighting a Sikh and a Muslim fighting a Muslim and a Christian fighting the Jews or all the sorts of nonsense. And also the capitalist fighting the communists. Actually I should say I’m a capitalist because I have certain powers and I’m the greatest communist because I must distribute it. This is the real power which has to be distributed. What is the money power to be distributed? – Useless thing. Money doesn’t give you any sense. So is the combination of everything, the synthesis of everything you’ll find and that’s how you are surprised that the sufferings just disappear. Also now you might say that, “What about the sufferings of the nature?” People who are Realised souls never get those suffering things because you see this full cosmos is within them, they are looked after. This is at a human awareness. But at the spiritual awareness you become beyond sufferings. And Christ is to be awakened within you, that’s the points is. Because Christ is not awakened within you. When the Christ, you know, in this chakra – this centre is Agya chakra, here – is bestowed the Deity of Christ. Now here if you can see in the map there is they have shown on one side the ego, another side – the superego, means the conditioning. Now when this chakra is awakened meaning the Christ within us is awakened, then He sucks in our karmas. That’s why they say that He died for our sins. Then He also sucks in our conditioning, both the things. He is placed in the middle of the brain you can say where is the optic chaisma crossing and He looks after the pituitary and the pineal body. That’s how He controls both the things within us and He sucks in. And when He sucks in there’s an opening that takes place on our fontanel bone area and through that then the Kundalini pierces through.


The Sahaja Yogi: How can you keep your Self-Realisation if you are not in touch with the collective?

Shri Mataji: You cannot. You have to keep some connection with the collective. It’s like say nowadays it’s autumn you have seen. In autumn what happens? A bark like a cork develops between the leaves and the tree. And such a leaf falls off and dies. You have to be in the collective, you cannot keep your Self-Realisation without collectivity. Is very important to be with the collective. This is one point people fail, because they think they’ll lose their individuality. Is a wrong idea. Actually when the leaf dies it has no individuality. On the contrary, when it is on the tree you’ll be surprised, that one leaf cannot tally with another leaf in the whole world. Such an individual thing it is. It is I would say unity in diversity, complete unity in diversity. Because that is the variety is the one that gives beauty to this world. Otherwise if we are all sort of dressed of the same way, walking the same way, it will be such a boring company.

Is there any question? Such a rapport. It’s beautiful people today. All right.

So now, as I’ve requested you, those who would like to go, should go. Because when we do this we all have to close the eyes and people are not even willing to do that. So the thing is that the Divine is not going to fall at out feet, isn’t it? We have to be little humble about it. If we don’t have that humility is better we should try other methods and then come to Sahaja Yoga. Because Sahaja Yoga is not meant for arrogant people, for people who think knowing of themselves. Is meant for people who want to get their Self-Realisation.

Now a simple thing we have to do, all of us, which is also sometimes not liked by people when I tell them – we have to take out our shoes. Because this Mother Earth is going to help us a lot. She’s the one who is giver of everything. So we have to take out our shoes and touch the Mother Earth. You can keep your socks on with your both the feet. Put both the feet separately because there are two powers separately on the Mother Earth. Those who are sitting on the ground are all right as they are, they need not put their feet like this, they can sit in a Sahaja asana, means in a way that is relaxed, not to put legs on top of another row or anything. Any stress on your body is not needed. You have to be comfortable to be straight, sitting straight, not putting your neck back or forward, just sitting straight, that’s all.

One promise has to be there in your heart, that you will after Realisation respect your Realisation and grow like a tree and should not be the like the parable of the seeds that some seeds fell on a rock and some who sprouted also got lost. I would request you very-very earnestly and with a great concern that you have to look after your Self-Realisation and your growth. As we do not take any money from anyone, we don’t have very elaborate places or elaborate centres, so whatever is available is there for you. But that is God’s place and you have to come there to get all the information, the knowledge about the Self. I hope you will not treat it with just a side issue, but the main object of your human assent. You don’t have to pay for it; you don’t have to do anything else. Moreover, we are all the time trying to save time and that is why the time has to be spent is been collective and enjoying the joy.

May God bless you all.

So both hands have to be like this, to begin with. This is because as I told you these are all sympathetic centres which are to be enlightened first of all, so the information goes to the Kundalini that the Kundalini is to be awakened. This is first thing we have to do.

Now, secondly, we have to facilitate the movement of the Kundalini even if she’s awakened. And for that I will tell you how to put your hand into various centres to the various centres so that you can yourself facilitate. I would like one of you to get up and show this better. Yeah.

Now Dr. Spiro will show you also and I will also that first you have to put your hand to your heart where resides. Now left hand towards Me and right hand on the heart. Left hand towards Me. Now to your heart and here resides the Spirit. We work only on the left hand side, because that is the side of our desire and put the left hand like this symbolically meaning that this is the power of desire and we want to have our Self-Realisation, expression of that.

Now the second chakra is on the upper part of your abdomen on the left hand side. This is the centre of your mastery by which the mastery over this power of love or Divine vibrations you achieve and manifest through your being. Is just starts working like through our eyes we can see the light. In the same way, once you become the master, you can feel, you can know everything about yourself and about others.

Then you have to take down your right hand to the lower part of your abdomen. This is the one, which is working out our pure knowledge, knowledge, which is absolute and pure. This centre is very important and by some unauthorised people if some people have tamper it we have to nourish it by putting our right hand towards it.

Then again we go back into the upper part of the abdomen.

Then we go back to our heart.

Now here we go back to the left hand side of our neck, here, like this from front. Many people tried this side (Shri Mataji pointed to the back side of Her neck). No. You have to try from front and then turn your head to your right, like this. Now this centre catches when we feel guilty and now I find quite a lot catching in this audience. So please for the sake of your Self-Realisation forgive yourself, forgive yourself, forgive yourself.

Now, please now stretch your hand like this and put it on top of your forehead. This is the centre of forgiveness, – here. And press it on both the sides, like this.

Now you have to take this hand on the back, rest your head on that, put the head up. And then you have to take out your hand again and stretch it like this. Fully stretched. The centre of your palm is to be placed on top of the fontanel bone area. You might bend your head a little, would be better. Just there, which was a soft bone in your childhood, and you have to press your scalp and move it about seven times slowly in a clockwise manner.

That’s all we have to do. But we must press it hard and the fingers must be pushed back nicely so that we can press our palm nicely. All right. That’s all is to be done. [INAUDIBLE WORD – Principally ?]

Now we have to close our eyes. Please don’t open your eyes till I’ll tell you. Because the attention will be attracted inside and please you can take out your glasses. The other day one lady who was quite blind I think and she started seeing this, I mean, you know, things happen like that. I would request you to take out your glasses. It helps you. And you keep your eyes shut till I’ll tell you, please don’t open your eyes. It is how you are going to help yourself and also you will know how to all the time raise your Kundalini. It’s very simple method, which I’m telling you.

Now, please put your left hand towards Me like this and right hand on your heart. Left hand towards Me and right hand on your heart. Here, now close your eyes. In the heart resides the Spirit. So please ask Me question within yourself, a very fundamental question, you can call Me Shri Mataji or Mother, whatever you like, “Mother, am I the Spirit?” Ask this question, “Mother, am I the Spirit?” Is a very fundamental question here to ask. Ask this question three times.

Now, if you are the Spirit, you are also your guide and master. Please put your right hand in the upper part of your abdomen on the left hand side, on your stomach on the left hand side and press it hard and ask a question here three times again, “Mother, am I my own master? Mother, am I my own master? Mother, am I my own master?” Ask this question in your heart.

Now, we move our right hand, move it down into the lower part of your abdomen on the left hand side. Now here, please keep your eyes shut, please keep your eyes shut and don’t move too much. Here you have to know that I respect your freedom and I cannot force you to have the pure knowledge. You have to say that you want it. So here you please say, “Mother, please give me pure knowledge” six times, because this centre has got six petals. So please say six times, “Mother, please give me pure knowledge”.

With this asking the Kundalini starts rising, because she knows you want it. Now to facilitate her movement we go back to the higher chakra and take our hand to the upper part of the abdomen on the left hand side and press it hard. Now, with full confidence we have to say ten times, “Mother, I am my own master”. Say it with full confidence so the Kundalini will rise, “Mother, I am my own master”. Please say it ten times. This will correct your spiritual domination if somebody has dominated you spiritually in the sense that they have misguided you spiritually. “I am my own master”.

Now, raise your right hand to the heart. Here resides the Spirit. So with full confidence say twelve times, “Mother, I am the Spirit”. Have confidence in yourself.

We have to know, that the Divine is the ocean of love and compassion. But above all it is the ocean of forgiveness and we cannot commit any mistakes, which the Divine cannot forgive. So please forgive yourself, forgive yourself fully, and raise your right hand in the corner of your neck and your shoulder, and turn your head to the right. And here with full confidence you say sixteen times, “Mother, I am not guilty at all”. Please say it, very important and as I said, if you still feel guilty, you can punish yourself by saying it hundred and eight times. You have to be pleasantly placed towards yourself because you are going to enter into the Kingdom of God. You have to love yourself and respect yourself. Sixteen times please say it.

Now raise your hand and put it on your forehead across. Put it on your forehead across. This is the centre of forgiveness. So please here you have to say, “Mother, I forgive everyone”, from your heart. You might say it is difficult, but it is a myth. Whether you forgive or you do not forgive you do not do anything. But if you do not forgive then you play into wrong hands. So to get over all the loads you just say from your heart, “Mother, I forgive everyone”. It’s not important how many times. Press it on both the sides please.

Now take back your hand, and put your hand on the back of your head, and raise your head on that. Move your head upward. Now here for your own satisfaction only, without counting any mistakes or guilt you can say, “Oh, Divine, if I have made any mistakes, please forgive me”. For your own satisfaction, don’t feel guilty about it. In a very pleasant manner.

Now stretch your hand fully, push back your fingers, and put the centre of your palm on top of the fontanel bone area, and now start moving it very slowly, very slowly clockwise the scalp. Press it hard, push back your fingers. Seven times. At this point I must say that I cannot force again the Self-Realisation upon you. I respect your freedom. You have to ask for it. So please say seven times, “Mother, please give me my Realisation, give me my Self-Realisation”. Or, “May I have my Self-Realisation”. (Shri Mataji is blowing in the microphone 7 times.)

Now please take down your hands. Please open your eyes very slowly. Now watch Me without thinking. Let’s see if you can do it. Without thinking. Just watch Me without thinking. Please put your right hand towards Me, right hand towards Me like this. And the left hand above your head and bend your head and try to see if you are feeling any cool breeze from here. Bend your head, bend, bend it. Little higher. Some people get it very high, very high they get it, some of them. Move it. And now put the left hand towards Me like this, again bend your head and see if you are getting a cool breeze in your head.

Now put your right hand towards Me again, bend your head and see for yourself again if there’s a cool breeze.

Now raise both your hands towards the sky and push back your head and ask a question three times, “Mother, is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost? Mother, is this the Brahma Shakti? Mother, is this the All Pervading Power of God’s Love?” Just ask the question.

Now put down your hands. Now please put your hands like this. You’ll feel very relaxed and peaceful. In the hands also you’ll feel little cool breeze coming. Some people might feel in one hand, might feel in another hand. Some of them do feel that way.

All those who are feeling the cool breeze on top of their heads or on their fingertips, please raise both your hands. Both hands to be raised those who are feeling it. Just imagine! Most of them have felt it. Imagine. Hardly very few haven’t felt. It’s very easy for them also to feel it and if they want they can come up to the stage and people can look after them. They can feel it today, they should and they will work out their Kundalini. Maybe little help is needed and it’s very kind of you, all of you to have received your Realisation. I bow to all of you. I bow to all of you and I beg of you as a Mother that please look after your Self-Realisation, do not waste it. Those who haven’t got it should not feel in any way disturbed or upset, it’s very simple. Maybe the little time was needed more or whatever it is. I would request them to come on the stage for five minutes or ten minutes and they might get their Realisation very well.

May God bless you.

Also if you want to come and meet Me you can come on the stage, I would like to talk to you. So many! Now what do you want? The England, the whole England! Those who want to be should come, one by one, please.

H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi